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Yup, me too.
I'm also in China.
What's up with that? It sucks!
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Yes, it's happening with me too (in China)
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Me too, in Hangzhou China.
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Sounds like the Chinese Firewall is blocking access to our image farms, which seems to be confirmed by www.greatfirewallofchina.org
lifeimage or jwsun - if you open Terminal.app and run "traceroute farm1.static.flickr.com" what do you get?
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Tracing route to farm1.static.flickr.yahoo8.akadns.net [68.142.213.135]
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2 <1 ms <1 ms 1 ms 61.153.6.65
3 <1 ms <1 ms 1 ms 61.174.66.153
4 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 61.130.126.125
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9 453 ms 453 ms 454 ms 202.97.51.122
10 454 ms 456 ms 454 ms 218.30.54.210
11 503 ms 502 ms 501 ms so-0-0-0.pat1.da3.yahoo.com [216.115.101.137]
12 242 ms 537 ms 531 ms ge-0-1-0-p130.msr2.mud.yahoo.com [216.115.104.85]
13 243 ms 235 ms 236 ms v205.bas3.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.209.9]
14 237 ms 238 ms 245 ms storage1.flickr.vip.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.213.135]
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This happened earlier this year and it was a flickr problem, not a Chinese "firewall" problem.
I'm pretty sure China's not one big system, but rather it's controlled by each ISP, which means it's unlikely they would all kick in at the same time - which seems to be what has happened today with flickr.
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same problem in BeiJing.
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same problem in Nanjing.....what exactly is the problem?
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same problem in Shenzhen....What's going on? Is the China Firewall or Flickr Problem?It's sucks!
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I'm in Huadu, outside Guangzhou. = nothing
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btw - I'm in Hunan Province. This just kicked in since lunch time (approx 2 hours ago)
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Tianjin Also
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I have this problem , beijing.
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Can any affected China-based users see an image at any of these locations?
storage1.flickr.vip.mud.yahoo.com/192/497269393_f65a57506...
storage1.flickr.vip.re2.yahoo.com/192/497269393_f65a57506...
photocache5.flickr.mud.yahoo.com/192/497269393_f65a57506d...
68.142.214.101/192/497269393_f65a57506d.jpg
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i can see the 2nd, the 3rd, and the 4th image.
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Same problem in Suzhou, Jiangsu Province, China.
@hitherto: I can see all the images in that list. (Looks like a duck, or maybe a baby chick-shaped cake.)
When I open a cmd window and try "ping farm1.static.flickr.com", the request times out.
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I can see all of the list.
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I can see all of them Except the first one,I'm in Shenzhen
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hitherto says:
Can any affected China-based users see an image at any of these locations?
storage1.flickr.vip.mud.yahoo.com/192/497269393_f65a57506...
storage1.flickr.vip.re2.yahoo.com/192/497269393_f65a57506...
photocache5.flickr.mud.yahoo.com/192/497269393_f65a57506d...
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Yes! I can see them in Tianjin, China.
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same problem, in Zhejiang
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Iiiinteresting.
And if you visit farm1.static.flickr.com/192/497269393_f65a57506d.jpg ?
Assuming there's no image, what does the browser say? "Connection timed out", "Can't find host", or another error message?
Finally, are there any mac folks with Terminal.app who can paste the results of running "host farm1.static.flickr.com"?
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Iiiinteresting.
And if you visit farm1.static.flickr.com/192/497269393_f65a57506d.jpg ?
Assuming there's no image, what does the browser say? "Connection timed out", "Can't find host", or another error message?
Finally, are there any mac folks with Terminal.app who can past the results of running "host farm1.static.flickr.com"?
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Can't see that pic.
The IE7 browser said "Navigation Canceled".
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@hitherto:
When there's no image, the page simply displays the full URL of the image (Firefox 2.0.0.1).
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here is the same problem, in Guangzhou. anyone can tell me why?
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whats wrong here??
so....anyone figure out the problem is where???i cant see the newer photos i think after 11am today.....
i am in shanghai...........
:(((((((((((
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Microsoft Windows XP [版本 5.1.2600]
(C) 版权所有 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.
C:\Documents and Settings\Devan>tracert host farm1.static.flickr.com
Unable to resolve target system name host.
C:\Documents and Settings\Devan>tracert farm1.static.flickr.com
Tracing route to farm1.static.flickr.yahoo8.akadns.net [68.142.232.116]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 * * * Request timed out.
2 * * * Request timed out.
3 * * * Request timed out.
4 * * * Request timed out.
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Guangzhou also
helo me!~~~~~~
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@hitherto: I can see all ... except this one "http://farm1.static.flickr.com/192/497269393_f65a57506d.jpg"
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Last login: Thu Jun 7 22:34:10 on console
Welcome to Darwin!
Devan$ host farm1.static.flickr.com
farm1.static.flickr.com is an alias for farm1.static.flickr.yahoo8.akadns.net.
farm1.static.flickr.yahoo8.akadns.net has address 68.142.213.135
Devan$
This is the result from my Mac
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@hitherto : i can see all your photo you post above
i'm in Guangzhou, China, my ISP is China Telecom
by the way, thanks hitherto help us!
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Hey guys.
Everything you've posted so far suggests that something's pretty effectively blocking any attempt to access any URLs with hostname farm1.static.flickr.com and farm2.static.flickr.com
These are where all our images (including buddy icons) live.
Since many of you can see the images using other aliases for those machines, it doesn't appear that we have any network/server issues which would explain this.
So far I can't see anything to disprove my original theory that those URLs are being blocked for users in China. :(
We'll have more ops and support staff around in the morning, and look into this further (it's nearly midnight here in California).
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hitherto (staff) edited this topic 31 months ago.
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That's good,We love Flickr!I hope Flickr can solve this Big Big Problem
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Pls help us...
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fram1 and fram2 GFWed in China.
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@hitherto: is this photo you need?
i'm in Guangzhou, China
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bummer - I hope it doesn't last!
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We'll have more ops and support staff around in the morning, and look into this further (it's nearly midnight here in California).
So,it means we have to wait for 6 or 8 hours until you solve this problem.That's all right.
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I can;t open any photos here in Hangzhou. I hope it will be back soon!!
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Maybe an Email (from Flickr staff) to the Yahoo China folks could be helpful to clarify if this is a malfunction or an intentional move by China's ISP's.
Right now is when the Yahoo China folks are awake!
edit: spelling and content clarification
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Steve Webel edited this topic 31 months ago.
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Flickr hits the Wall(Great Firewall), eventually!
I can't see some buddy icons here.... mostly from farm1
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IsaacMao edited this topic 31 months ago.
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farm1 have unblock.
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不稳定
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shizhao edited this topic 31 months ago.
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The images re-appeared briefly but have gone again. :|
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Yes, some photo appeared but disappeared soon if I refresh the page.
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me too. why?! why?! why?!
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^shhhh!!! guys, you're going to wake up the flickr support staff!
keep it down, already!
:-P
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Oh, wait!
potentially 1,321,851,888 people can't access a single flickr image!?
please continue!
and talk as loudly as you'd like.
:-D
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Hi ༺lifemage༻
:-)
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Hi Kevin!
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did we wake you up? sorry!
:-D hehehe!
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Still cant see any!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:(((((((((((((((((
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Yes, jijis and all- we are sorry for this. We are investigating.
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"Finally, are there any mac folks with Terminal.app who can paste the results of running "host farm1.static.flickr.com"?"
here's what I got....
traceroute to farm1.static.flickr.yahoo8.akadns.net (68.142.213.135), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 218.1.0.239 (218.1.0.239) 10.6 ms 9.406 ms 7.645 ms
2 7ge0-ip-yl-012.online.sh.cn (218.1.63.185) 12.978 ms 8.112 ms 9.359 ms
3 222.72.244.45 (222.72.244.45) 8.229 ms 9.115 ms 11.79 ms
4 218.1.0.222 (218.1.0.222) 11.577 ms 15.821 ms 8.015 ms
5 61.152.86.2 (61.152.86.2) 25.522 ms 8.143 ms 8.809 ms
6 202.97.33.10 (202.97.33.10) 117.883 ms 118.52 ms 117.826 ms
7 202.97.51.138 (202.97.51.138) 286.514 ms 285.801 ms 284.543 ms
8 * 218.30.54.210 (218.30.54.210) 273.249 ms 269.347 ms
9 so-0-0-0.pat1.da3.yahoo.com (216.115.101.137) 318.607 ms 317.764 ms 321.709 ms
10 * ge-0-1-0-p130.msr2.mud.yahoo.com (216.115.104.85) 330.488 ms ge-0-1-0-p120.msr1.mud.yahoo.com (216.115.104.81) 322.469 ms
11 v205.bas3.mud.yahoo.com (68.142.209.9) 329.372 ms v203.bas3.mud.yahoo.com (68.142.209.5) 326.174 ms bas4.v206.mud.yahoo.com (68.142.209.11) 333.081 ms
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most of Flickr pictures still can't see.....what's the matter?
I"m in Shanghai,China...
sucks~~~
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thanks- ༺lifemage༻
Sorry Jan's lie, don't have a definitive update yet.
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Still not working (Shanghai).
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i am in Shanghai..
no flickr no life...................
help.
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Considering Yahoo China cooperates with the Chinese government fully to censor anything that may be an embarrassment to the Chinese government and a certain anniversary has just taken place then could it be anything to do with groups such as this:
www.flickr.com/groups/8964/
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No chance of getting to the wikipedia url though - wikipedia has been permanently blocked for at least the three years I've been here (as well as bbc news).
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I'm having the same problem here (Beijing). Shit!
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Same problem in Wuhan, China.
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Any updates Kevin or hitherto?
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I'm sure if the Chinese government wanted to block Flickr they would... why just stop us accessing images but not text? (But groups like that certainly make me nervous!)
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@johnmperry
Google also has a Chinese Google that cooperates with the Chinese government so it's possible you won't see this Blog either
hkdigit.blogspot.com/2007/06/18th-anniversary-of-tiananme...
and if you do then it's unlikely you'll see any of the photos in it as the latest posting has photos linked to Flickr photos.
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@Canopus Archives - you're right!
The firewall works by detecting proscribed words, when it forces reset of transmission.
I read somewhere once that google detects difference between 'tiananmen' and 'Tiananmen' (with capital letter). Maybe
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@1980Nic: Yes, it's ridiculous!
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I know that there are ways through firewalls, and that some people here can access Wikipedia and other sites about certain anniversaries, religious groups etc ;-)... has anyone tried accessing Flickr using the same method and are the images visible?
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Seems it's the Chinese Goverment's behavior.
Flickr may have no idea about it. : (
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I highly doubt it has anything to do this stuff.
You never know for sure, but it is very, very, very unlikely.
Flickr must be somewhere closer to finding out what's going on.
Let us know guys!!! We are waiting patiently...but not forever.
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既然说的是中国..就用中文呗..何必呢..我还得边看边猜....压力很大 你们几倒波...
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Hoop - I'm wondering, why does it seem like the Chinese government's behaviour? Why not just block the site?
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Probably to do with this
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/6729557.stm
As in - the Chinese Government's notoriously paranoid about civil unrest, and so won't want word/pics spreading
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Tracing route to farm1.static.flickr.yahoo8.akadns.net [68.142.213.135]
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If anyone works for a company based outside China, perhaps you can use your VPN? That should prove whether it's the filter blocking the access.
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@1980Nic
It's just an automatic device which operates against a list of words. I think that is why the Christmas day earthquake was so disastrous here - everything internet has to filter through a single firewall point. When the backbone was lost, it was unablem to reconfigure round, so there was a logjam there. Still not quite right yet, as everything's a lot slower than it used to be.
NB just my interpretation. Not likely to read about it in China Daily, and Taiwan Times is blocked too.
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@Electric Spam
bbc.news.co.uk is blocked here.
but according to the Guardian, official figures say there were 87,000 cases of civil unrest in 2006. I can't believe that, unless they're counting people not incidents.
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OK it's something with the Great Firewall. I can see all the pics just using tor.
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illusion.den: 对不起，我的汉语不太好。我们都不知道这个问题是什么，Flickr 也不知道。他们觉得中国 "防火长城"可能 阻碍我们的照片。可是为什么不阻碍Flickr？为什么只阻碍照片？所以一定是技术性问题.
改写: 人说肯定是防火长城阻碍我们的照片。
Maybe there's someone else who can help that make more sense? (For one thing I'm not sure about the word for 'block'.)
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So am I. so far I can not view any pictures. Flickr should have an official announce for this event. It's definitely serious, even though this issue is caused by chinese government.
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@1980Nic
It's just an hypothesis, but, to answer your question if Flickr.com was to be blocked it would not block the images as they are hosted on farm1.flickr.com. An image is worth a thousand words especially when the words are in a different language and images can be linked to Blogs...but, we'll see.
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albertuscn: but it could still just be a technical problem, right? SURELY the government wouldn't block (or limit access to) Flickr? Say it's not so!
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啊 没关系 我看得懂..就是恍惚间觉得 全世界都讲英文..中国也讲英文了..好没有特色耶..
对不起啊..各位在中国的不管哪国人..我是学中文的..我有义务捍卫母语耶...嘿嘿...
我觉得 在一个别的国家讲这个国家的母语 是体现对这个国家最大的友好和尊重..我在国外的时候就是这样做的..不管是难懂的阿拉伯语还是德语法语英语...
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Canopus Archives... ahhh, I see. Oh dear. Doesn't look very good if your hypothesis is correct.
(You posted while I was writing just now. )
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图片被封锁的原因可能是前几天有人上传了关于64事件或厦门px事件的图片。
如果真是GFW的封锁，无法正常使用服务的flickr pro用户和受到影响的flickr应有权利起诉并要求赔偿。
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this is getting very interesting!
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我记得前段时间也出现过类似的问题..好像也是几天不能看见图片..
和这次的问题一样.. 不记得是不是台湾省地震搞出来的遗留问题了..
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1980Nic: Why would not? I just don't know why the Gov just block all the pics but not Flickr itself. Maybe just like calon said, they just want the pics concerning something they don't want us to know. If it's just a tech problems, I can't understand 'cos it's beyond my knowledge.
GFW就像龙与地下城里的AO大神。你可以祈求，他不会回应。你永远无法理解他。
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你怎樣認為flickr對你的生活的影響？(哈哈我怎么觉得好象作文题，不过今天是中国高考第一天，纪念下！)
what do you think about flickr influenced your daily life？
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OT: I doubt flickr staff read Chinese, so to be productive, it's best to keep this in English. (illusion.den - I know you wish to "protect the mother-tounge" but trust me, it will be safe - even if we use English here!)
Interesting that the image farm would be blocked and not the entire site. Makes me think that some blog or group of blogs got blocked and the flickr image farms got caught up in the sweep. Hopefully this is an error and Yahoo China can smoothing things over and get us back online in China!
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I want to hit my head hard... I can't even see the Flickr itself after refreshing the page from time to time. Tech problems? I hope it's not a prelude.
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Yahoo! China has nothing to do with Flickr or Yahoo! US... it's totally another company.
OK if it has something positive, I hope Yahoo! US could rethink the decision that they will close Yahoo! album this fall.
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One of the best(maybe only) way now is using SSLed HTTP(Tor...)
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Not "totally another company"
"Yahoo China, operated by Alibaba.com which is 40 percent owned by Yahoo"
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It's just like a first warning to flickr, blocking images and allowing text. I guess Flickr have to make a compromise with China gov before block removed. Deleting all images about anti-gov maybe the first thing Flickr have to do no matter what is the truth or not.
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@Steve Webel
Here is one Blog hkdigit.blogspot.com/2007/06/18th-anniversary-of-tiananme...
It is owned by Google and Google China cooperates with the Chinese Government. The Blog will probably be linked with other Blogs and the images in it are hosted on Flickr. Jonmperry has already confirmed he cannot see images on that blog. Albertuscan has confirmed that by using tor he can get around the Great Firewall of China and see all images on Flickr.
@Albretuscan
Your question has already been answered here
www.flickr.com/help/forum/41998/#reply222659
As far as what they may not want you to know about it is a major incident that happened 18 years ago in Beijing which is so taboo that only the older generation really know about it.
Posted 31 months ago.
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greatfirewallofchina.org does indeed seem to be blocking farm1.static.flickr.com as Hitherto stated earlier in this thread...
Posted 31 months ago.
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OK I don't use the proper words... I do think that Y! China don't want to get into trouble if it's really has sth to do with Great XXwall... and they may know it already.
I can't reload this page from time to time... I hope it's just my problem because of poor speed... I hope.
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I am Guangzhou, can't see any pic. or images too from today's morning.... :-(
What happens?! pls recover it, ok?
我从今天早上9点钟开始, 一直都看不到任何图片啦....
And for me, there is one more question, a few days ago, when I opened Flickr, there is a pop-up window continuously showed up even I press the "confirm" button, it said "Run Time Error, Line: 52, Error: "F.output.date_strs" is blank or is not object"
How can I solve this problem?
Posted 31 months ago.
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