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@The Searcher
You too are a complete and utter douche of fresh water for the mind. Dave and you oughta tour together assuming y'alls can keep your hands off each other.
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DaveWard:
apparently your account is not NIPSA anymore.
a search on the tag 'daveward-smaragd' gets me:
We found 2,008 photos tagged with daveward-smaragd
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Can I ask here for help, I have NIPSA probably too?
Thanks for your time!
Friendly Mia
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I can't believe how liberal Flickr truely is, on any other photosite if you misused such an intregal function such as tagging you would be waking up to a "you have been banned" notice.
Dave does this have anything to do with it?
"or simply support my photography in a meaningful way? Then buy something on my Photography Wish List. That list has things I really need in order to make the transition to becoming a true professional photographer."
Last i heard this wasn't a grooming site for pro photogs....or a place to bum spare change...i will scram now.
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aww. now see, alfred, I was gonna go and say that was hilarious, what you said up there. But when you drag me into it, it's not, somehow doesn't have quite the same sense of happy ha-ha.
and technically, I think I'm more of a high colonic. cleansing and clarifying, for men and women.
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@The Searcher
It was not my intent to drag you into anything. Its just the sexual tension between you and daveward.net was pretty intense and someone needed to break it up.
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good ol flickr help
the only place you can come to report a problem with your account and get a lesson on the american constitution
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it's very full service. I learned a lot about personal cleansing, for instance. and "facts". and scramming (and "f#$%king off", but that seemed to have edited itself to "scram" rather quickly).
well. haven't learned the scram thing yet. I'm protesting it.
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Geesh, reading this is like reading some political propaganda soap opera! Some people hear censorship and they jump up and down like monkeys in a cage at the mere mention and don't pay any attention to what's really going on.
Fact is... DaveWard, the url guy, is using flickr to promote his business and make money. He abused the tag process so that he could STEER users to his website so he could MAKE MONEY. That is a commercial use of flickr and is against TOS!
So when they slap his hand for this he loses it and starts ranting CENSORSHIP and showing classic paranoid delusional thinking that usually requires medication from a shrink.... (dave.... purple people in polka-dot pants chasing you through pink pylons in the park??).
Of course people take sides and some even say that abusing tags is no big thing if it protects their "FREEDOM". Wow.. "freedom", now someone's freedom is under attack 'cause he can't set up shop and promote his business and make money while standing in the middle of someone else's business!! Hey, guess what... if I got a product to sell, you think I can go setup a kiosk in the middle of Macy's and go into business!?
LOL... Far as I know this is a photo site, quite frankly, there are hundreds if not thousands of them on the web. Hell, this one isn't really that great compared with many others. You pay your $25 (if you want to) for flickr to provide the service they state... which they do. They have rules, which you agree to. You violate those rules and then get pissed because they punished you for it?? Obviously, you think your 25 bucks entitles you to a lot more.
Fact is, tag abuse should be addressed... if I'm looking for pictures of architecture I don't want to be directed to some guy selling calendars.
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Dave's been awfully quiet since he got un-NIPSA'd... Hope he's OK...
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Quiet indeed! I hate to think what kind of thugs Yahoo sends out after those who blow the whistle on them. But whatever cuz when something big comes up, Dave Ward blows.
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Let's see.
He sells stuff off his flickr account (that act gets other people kicked off flickr but he gets an apology) and he screws with the tags big time (and gets another apology) but chalk gets kicked off every time he joins.
ODD I think.
GoBeArS
pieere
And he bans people from his little groups with no valid reasons but gets upset when others do it to him.
STILL ODD I think
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Well, there were other issues with Chalky...
Is he really still trying to get another account? haha!
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Yeah, just one or two... :/
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he's not even NIPSA any more. And he calls ME a sell-out
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go on - amuse me some more -what did he do!
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He declared war on Utata. Which was a thread where he said that he was declaring war on Utata. The war comprised of, as far as I know, nothing at all.
Next thing he knows his account was gone.
He had had several warnings prior to that though.
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At least, I think that's what happened.
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But at least he spent his lunch hours at a legal whore house
Chalk that is.
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Anyone else get aroused by the term NIPSA?
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He also was causing quite a bit of problems for people (well, especially one guy) in DeleteMe! and impersonated and harassed him, and well - he did a lot of stuff. I didn't know about the Utata thing though...
He really got around, didn't he?
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Alfred Russell Wallace That is a sick suggestion. You should draw a line not to be crossed (somewhere between Bali and Lombok is a good spot for a line)
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I t was always fun to watch chalk poke things.
He was quite good at it.
But it is curious why some people get to flaunt the rules and then get an apology while others get booted.
Somes sites are in violation of the flickr TOS but no one seems to care.
Just my feelings
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I do Love these forums - may you all have the time to rant on forever!
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@Karen: looking at the count on the "Old Skool Merge Topic" thread, ranting on forever is a real possibility, lol.
remember when the main source of evil in the universe was Microsoft? now it seems that little Damien has grown up and gone to work for Yahoo.
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Hey, I think the main source of evil in the universe is still Microsoft. Billy just bought the Four Seasons Hotels. Oh joy and rapture, another business I get to boycott.
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Its Valentines day so just before I go home to bed - here is some love to cheer you up all those suffering dissent and discontent
( Possible? may be not!)
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lunatic prophet, i'm one of the monkeys in a cage who can't read and doesn't understand at all what was going on
can you please tell me how this has anything to do with commercial use of flickr and how dave ward was trying to drum up business?
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Yahoo's NIPSA Censorship Sucks.
www.flickr.com/photos/thomashawk/420749241/
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I doubt you'd find a soul in all of Yahoo that even knows what "NIPSA" means. Flickr handles the nipsy-russells, weird you don't call them out, but the easy to rally against mothership.
and of course, nipsa is probably not long for this world:
www.flickr.com/forums/help/34887/181800/
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Cripes. I hope the Flickr staff spends all their time in the Zooomr groups complaining about policies they don't want. This is just getting stupid, TH.
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Censorship? (I think maybe you don't know what that means.) For the record, this is community driven, not controlled by "Yahoo". We have a pretty good ruleset for member flagging (in the sense that it is not easily gamed) and people routinely flag non-photos to set them as NIPSA.
Shortly this will all work differently anyway: there will be flagging by content type, and users will be able to choose whether they want screenshots or art/illustrations to show up in their searches.
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Censorship, I think maybe you don't know what that means.
From the first sentence of your definition linked above: "Censorship is the removal or withholding of information from the public by a controlling group or body."
So lets see, NIPSA stands for what? Not in "Public" Search? So lets see. My photo was in "public" search and it was "removed" from public search. For the record, anonymously, in secret, behind my back with no notification whatsoever to me.
So the question is was my "information" "removed" from the "public" by a "controlling group or body?" I'd say yes.
Shortly this will all work differently anyway: there will be flagging by content type, and users will be able to choose whether they want screenshots or art/illustrations to show up in their searches.
Fantastic. And good for Yahoo.
But in the meantime Yahoo censoring my photograph taken with my Canon 5D still sucks.
I wonder if my photo had not been as high profile or as critical of Yahoo like these other 70,672 screenshots if it would have been censored.
How many of my other photographs have been NIPSA'd behind my back?
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Kristopher and I for the time being. But we are taking a different approach. If we find something that is offensive we are putting an explicit screen over the image
You're just withholding information by a different means. Maybe you should complain to Kristopher about censorship.
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I wonder if my photo had not been as high profile or as critical of Yahoo like these other 70,672 screenshots if it would have been censored.
I wonder if you weren't going on and on and on and on about it maybe people wouldn't be pro-actively making sure your nasty screenshots are kept out of the public search?
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Thomas I've posted this as a comment to your photo, but I'll put it here too, to try and tie up the ends...
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I don't know the ins-and-outs of this as I'm down in Austin, but I have had a quick look.
Your screenshots from the other day have been marked as screenshots, because, well they're screenshots. Which is why they're not showing up in public searches.
The latest two twitter photos are photos of the screen. One of which was marked as NIPSA by people clicking the "May Offend" link, possibly because they thought it was a screenshot.
I've un-NIPSAed it because it's a photo.
There's a good chance, considering the interest in this photo that people will click the "May Offend" link again. In which case I (or someone else) will review it and un-NIPSA it again.
We know it's not a perfect system, which is why moves are afoot to change it. But for the moment it's the best we've got and works well most of the time, and we're in the throws of improving it.
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Hope that clears things up just a little bit.
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I've un-NIPSAed it because it's a photo.
Thanks Rev Dan Catt. I appreciate that.
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Rev Dan,
I've used Flickr's innovative "Replace This" feature to take the original three offensive shots which were taken on my computer and replace them with the almost identical looking shot taken with my 5D. Any chance I could get these one's unNipsa'd now too?
www.flickr.com/photos/thomashawk/419109430/
www.flickr.com/photos/thomashawk/419986620/
www.flickr.com/photos/thomashawk/420473563/
Thanks much man.
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Cool. Now that we know for sure that screenshots are NIPSA'd, can we do something about the other 200000000000000000000000 of them that are appearing in public searches?
www.flickr.com/search/?q=screenshot&w=all
I know the rules also, it just seems relatively arbitrarily enforced at this point.
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If you search for "screenshot" wouldn't you want to see screenshots?
You should appreciate the trouble all those people went to to tag thier screenshots. It allows you to search for xxxx -screenshot and not see any of them.
Making a distinction between a screen grab and a photo of a computer screen is daft. The photo is merely a poorer version of the exact same thing.
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Not so sure it's arbitrary - Thomas's screenshots were reported by other users (for whatever motives...), so Flickr investigated.
They don't individually classify each image as it's uploaded (given the sheer volume of images uploaded per day, that's physically impossible). They investigate images that are brought to their attention via the "may offend" button.
If any of the other "200000000000000000000000" screenshots are similarly reported, they should be similarly investigated.
If not, then they're being arbitrary...
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Making a distinction between a screen grab and a photo of a computer screen is daft.
No, allowing photos that are tagged screenshot to be searchable while saying you don't allow screenshots in public areas, however, is quite daft.
If I search for hardcore porn, I get nothing resembling it. By your standards, I should get hardcore porn since I searched for it. I know for a fact there's hardcore porn on Flickr. In fact, if you search for any number of porn-related keywords, you get nothing.
Either the flickr "community" is really REALLY efficient or it's not just about what the community flags and really is a lot more arbitrary.
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A screenshot taken with a camera is still basically a screenshot and not something that should turn up in image results -- it's not interesting.
Those shots can still show up in pools and in your stream.
It's lame to use such things as a deliberately staged and contrived advertising attempt for your clone service.
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A screenshot taken with a camera is still basically a screenshot and not something that should turn up in image results -- it's not interesting.
mpd, and yet between the six images they have garnered dozens of comments, thousands of views and 31 faves in total.
Obviously that's the thing about what's interesting. Different things are interesting to different people.
Thank you Rev Dan for unNIPSAing the rest of my photos!
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"No, allowing photos that are tagged screenshot to be searchable while saying you don't allow screenshots in public areas, however, is quite daft."
If Flickr discouraged people from tagging with "screenshot" it would make things that much more difficult when they finally introduce some sort of content filtering.
Porn is offensive to many and is dealt with quickly. Screenshots are at worst "uninteresting".
You are no doubt baffled that Flickr has such a friendly relationship with fd and his flickrtoys that generate lots of non-photos all over flickr.
As Thomas said "Obviously that's the thing about what's interesting. Different things are interesting to different people."
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mpd, and yet between the six images they have garnered dozens of comments, thousands of views and 31 faves in total.
I wish people wouldn't throw around explosive words like 'censorship' so frivolously.
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I did some more investigating into the meaning of censorship. Let's trace this one back:
Censorship: the act or practice of censoring.
Censor (verb): to examine and act upon as a censor.
Censor (noun): an official who examines books, plays, news reports, motion pictures, radio and television programs, letters, cablegrams, etc., for the purpose of suppressing parts deemed objectionable on moral, political, military, or other grounds.
Suppress: to withhold from disclosure or publication (truth, evidence, a book, names, etc.).
So, it seems that in order to be practicing censorship, Flickr would have to withhold from publication photos, screenshots or other images. Flickr does not withhold anything from publication. Ergo, Flickr isn't censoring jack-all. Sorry TH, you're wrong.
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withhold from disclosure or publication
jakerome you are conveniently forgetting about the little world "or" in your definition.
Is public search disclosure? Yes. Were my images withheld from public search? Yes.
Ergo.
The popular notion that censorship only counts as censorship when it's a truly serious issue as in censorship in China, while perhaps popular and expedient isn't actually accurate.
Originally my images were "withheld"
"to hold back; restrain or check."
Is this as serious as Yahoo, Microsoft and Google censoring people in China? No, probably not. But it's not the first time that this has happened to me and I think Yahoo needs to take censorship on Flickr more seriously.
I can argue semantics and we can beat this one to death all day if you want. I'm relatively satisfied at this point with the level of attention this issue has received and with the fact that Rev Dan has unNIPSA'd 5 of my images in question.
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You're using a loaded term, TH. The relevant issue is not whether or not you were censored, anyway; it is whether or not removal of screenshots or other images which do not conform to Flickr's policy is acceptable. Your cries of "censorship!" sound as ridiculous as the (hypothetical) complaints of censorship from a person who's article on dog walking got rejected from a magazine on medieval architecture.
Flickr has a right to set and enforce standards on what is returned in search results. You can call that censorship if you like, but you sure sound silly.
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Stewart said: "Shortly this will all work differently anyway: there will be flagging by content type, and users will be able to choose whether they want screenshots or art/illustrations to show up in their searches."
holy shit. that's the first time I've seen that actually "spoken", that the new system will be for more than for catagorizing "offensive" material and include art and other non-photos. My fingers were cramping from being crossed for so long. very cool.
I think I.. I think I'm going to cry. -sniff-
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@Eric:
Well said.
This is foolish grandstanding, nothing more. It's even a little over the top for you, Thomas, and that is really saying something.
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Eric: I think the thing that bothers some folk is that when you talk about "standards" that you're trying to uphold, you get to hold up as an example of that this success story:
Thomas had good looking images that, since he adhered to high standards and cropped and cleaned his images, they were found to be below Flickr's standards of what a "photo" should be, and thus NIPSA. When he went back and made the illogical step of reverting them to look terrible, including the monitor in the shot, that somehow elevated the exact same images to a level of quality that complied with your "standards", and allowed them to be public.
I'm right with you on TH's tactics (tho depressingly successful, unlike so many others trapped in cue-hell), but maybe you can see where some of that frustration and confusion can come from.
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Your cries of "censorship!" sound as ridiculous as the (hypothetical) complaints of censorship from a person who's article on dog walking got rejected from a magazine on medieval architecture.
As I mentioned before, I'm relatively happy at this point having Rev Dan Catt unNIPSA the images in question, but, since we want to keep going on about censorship at Yahoo Eric, how about answering me this one.
Was it censorship when Yahoo deleted my words (along with the words of many other people on Flickr) placed next to an image I posted of Michael Crook, the guy who baited guys on craigslist with a sex advertisement and then released all of their public information?
When Yahoo removed not only this image from public search but from my actual stream due to a bogus DMCA notice -- and then on top of it all went above and beyond what the DMCA requires and removed all of the text associated and many comments associated with the image. Was that censorship?
www.flickr.com/photos/thomashawk/389354469/
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Obviously I can't comment on that case TH, but that's not what I was talking about anyway in my previous post. I was responding to your calculated overreaction to having some screenshots removed from search results.
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Right, it's censorship that they didn't, upon receiving a DMCA notice, completely rewrite their site software to allow the deletion of an image, leaving behind it's metadata and accompanying comment page, turning the site into a blogging site.
Or is it that they don't have a team of investigators to determine whether a particular takedown notice is legitimate? Does Zoomr?
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Obviously I can't comment on that case TH
Why not?
Or is it that they don't have a team of investigators to determine whether a particular takedown notice is legitimate? Does Zoomr?
wooble. This was a highly publicized issue on the internet. I also emailed flickr staff direclty within hours of them pulling the photo including a link to a comment made by Fox News that anyone could use photo in question.
And since you asked. Yes, Zooomr got the same takedown notice that Yahoo did as the same image was posted there -- we left it up. Both Zooomr and thomashawk.com's upstream providers also got the same DMCA notice and did they pull it? No.
Or is it that they don't have a team of investigators to determine whether a particular takedown notice is legitimate?
Yes, Flickr has how many people on staff now? Yahoo is what now a $40 billion company? Yes, I think that they should review DMCA notices to determine if they are legitimate or not and even if they are I think they should leave text and comments up. Allowing anyone to kill an image on Flickr and all of the commentary that goes with it simply by making things up is not good policy.
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I somehow doubt you're privy to the volume of takedown notices that Yahoo receives to be able to judge whather they have the staff to personally investigate all of them.
As for Zoomr not taking down this particular image, that's obviously because it was posted there by you and you were already familiar with the situation. Do you get a lot of takedown notices for images placed on your site by users who aren't you? Do your expiditiously act on such notices as required by federal law, or do you just ignore them because you don't have any assets worth suing over? Do you think a $40 billion company should act the same way?
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The popular notion that censorship only counts as censorship when it's a truly serious issue as in censorship in China, while perhaps popular and expedient isn't actually accurate.
it is completely accurate, and I say that as someone who's lived under martial law with real censorship (including mail routinely opened by the gov't., snipped out articles in imported magazines, and more). your equating the possible loss of a few visits via public search (even while bragging about getting "thousands of views") with censorship is laughable.
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As for Zoomr not taking down this particular image, that's obviously because it was posted there by you and you were already familiar with the situation.
And I made Flickr staff by direct email as aware of the situation as I was within hours of being told they'd removed the image including a link that documented the false claim as well permission to use the image from the copyright owner. Didn't make a difference.
Do you get a lot of takedown notices for images placed on your site by users who aren't you?
On a proportional basis per image probably about the same as Flickr does. We get some.
Do your expiditiously act on such notices as required by federal law
Yes. But in cases where it's clear that the person requesting the takedown notice does not hold copyright we'll leave those images up.
Do you think a $40 billion company should act the same way?
Yes. If Flickr wants to share the number of DMCA takedown notices that they specifically get every day and make a case for why it's too onerous to have someone review them I'd be happy to listen. My own guess is that they (being Flickr specifically) probably get less than what one person could handle. Flickr charges Pro users $25 per year. I bet less than 1 in 100,000 of their paid users have a daily issue with this. 100,000 x $25 is $2.5 million. I think they can afford to hire someone to do a little better job at this if current staff can't handle the load, yes.
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Oh and Eric. Congrats on the collections thing. It looks pretty cool!
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Thanks Thomas! When can we expect to see Zollections?
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Thanks Thomas! When can we expect to see Zollections?
Probably about the same timing as when Flickr localizes into languages other than English ;)
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I have missed Thomas Hawk, but now I realise I shouldn't have.
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Eric i like Zoolections better....i keep going to that site trying to find pictures but only see links...am i missing something??
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(Speaking of Michael Crook: 10zm.blip.tv/file/169553/ )
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NIPSA sucks, please fix it as soon as possible...you know what to do...
Oh, and Merging sucks, too (3/14/07)...but I've given up hope that'll get fixed...
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Just found out about this and thought I'd chime in. Seems to me that not allowing screenshots in public searches, or on Flickr, is a pretty purist stance. A screenshot is a photo of a digital medium inasmuch as a photo is a photo of our living and breathing medium. How else are you going to reproduce something really cool that can only be seen on screen? Take a photo of the screen? That would be a backwards thing to do.
As for those who make a big deal out of Thomas' crying wolf when it comes to the NIPSA censoring, they're shortsighted. We need Tom, and I'm not just saying that because I love Zooomr. He's an advocate for photographic freedom, whether that's in public places or here at Flickr. He's outspoken and won't let the issue drop till it's resolved. He's like a bulldog that grabs on and won't let go. That's an awesome trait, because it ensures the issues he talks about get the attention they deserve. Whether they get resolved is another matter, but they get attention, and discussion takes places. Like it or not, we need Tom and more people like him.
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He's good at blowing balloons up too.
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...A screenshot is a photo of a digital medium inasmuch as a photo is a photo of our living and breathing medium. How else are you going to reproduce something really cool that can only be seen on screen? Take a photo of the screen?...
Oh no, not another giant thread on the philosophical aspects of what's a photo and what isn't! OK, I give up, lets allow screen shots and fill Flickr up with every available screen shot of our PCs...MS Office grabs, lots of game grabs, Windows acting funny, grabs of this discussion...all available to public search. Here's one to get the ball rolling:
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Here's one to get the ball rolling:
wow! Wacom Tablet Properties! I'm in awe of your screen-grabbing eye.
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Hah! :-) I've seen my share of crappy screenshots, but I think you know what I'm trying to say. Thomas' use of screenshots was to illustrate something really cool. Imo, it wasn't in bad taste.
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Censorship is actually the correct word to use when talking about something like a DMCA takedown, because it's governmentally-mandated by a [stupid, ineffective, countrproductive] law.
From a grammatical standpoint, it's the correct word to use when talking about a completely private action such as a NIPSA takedown, as well; however, qualifying it as private censorship would probably make more sense, contextually speaking, to separate it from the far more serious issue of governmental censorship.
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@null0: yah, the distinction between public and private censorship is valid. private censorship exists.
but when the items in question are pulling in vast numbers of views...the charge in this case is seriously undermined--to say the least.
NIPSA sucks, no doubt about it. So does crying wolf and trivializing the meaning of words.
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some flickr admins are not professional.
they do not react to emails.
they ignore your messages.
they do what they want.
it is like in kindergarten.
well, if it makes them happy ...
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I'm Unable to SEE some of my Good Friends Photos???
what the Hell is up with that??
also MY Photos are NOT showing up on MY Flickr Badge on my Blog??
i know i've been NIPSA fer over a Year now & frankly i wear it as a Badge of Honour cuz of the Shit they've tried to pull on me - they are RUDE imbeciles*
they run a KANGAROO COURT ala GITMO only worse cuz they threaten ya with IMMEDIATE DEATH - No Questions asked*
Dated December 25, 2006 aka CHRISTMAS DAY if U can believe it*
Billy -
another week, another few dozen complaints about you ...
You know how Flickr works, you know what the rules are, and
you're still posting porn shots in public, still telling
people to fuck off all over the place and generally still
acting like an ass.
We look at account deletion as a last resort in cases like
yours, but we're not willing to make Flickr a crappy place
for hundreds of users just to satisfy your unique needs.
You've been warned many times in the past -- including one
labeled "final warning" -- but this really is the last one.
The next wrong move will result in your account being
permanently deleted. Think about that for a second: every
photo, every comment they've ever received, all your
contacts, Flickrmail; everything, gone for good. There
won't be any more warnings and there won't be any debate or
appeals.
If that doesn't matter to you, then carry on. If it does
matter, then think twice before posting something you know
is wrong (whether comment or photo).
We'd much rather have you around and not pissing people
off, grossing them out, etc., but if we have to chose, we'd
rather have a Flickr that works for a larger group than just
your fans.
- Stewart
I'm Happy yer SPEAKING UP about this shit Dave & others here who have the COURAGE TO SPEAK THEIR MINDS!!
Cheers Everybody!! Billy ;))
Peace*
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LOLLLLLLLLLLLL
did i shut everybody up?????????
;))
i hear ya Loud n Clear ya Fabio!!!!!
i went thru the same BULLSHIT last night*
i DO understand the need for Censorship - let's face it not everything
i Post is good for younger people or those in countries where U can
get in trubble or those of FEEBLE mindz!!
that being said if U change the Settings in yer Account Profile U can
allow to View + SEE + god forbid THINK about what is actually being
portrayed, implied or said*
ie: Yes i've posted 2 PORN shots + Tons of TITS n ASS shots + ART!!!!!!!!
I didn't get over 1 MILLION 500 THOUSAND views on Flickr cuz i was
posting boring Photography* (kidding!! but U understand my point)
I am outraged & DISGUSTED by the treatemnt of all ARTISTS +
Photographers here on Flickr*
it's called FREEDOM of Speech people*
;))
I left a little Note fer the Flickr Admins & Henchmen on the NIPSA
Forum under Dave Wards post*
seriously the Shit i've endured is kinda mind boggling*
i only say this cuz i try & be nice to Everybody*
yeah i've posted 30,000 pix but i've also Commented + Faved over 40,000*
point - Flickr is theee SHINING LIGHT in the Web2.0 Universe - we all
love Flickr fer the comments - otherwise it would be in the words of
Saffana who wrote a kind testimonial - "Flickr would just be Another
BORING Photography site"!!
so true - i am here fer my Flickr Friendz!!!!!!!!!
& i do give props to Flickr for giving all of us this Gift!!!!!!
;))
i ain't runnin' fer President being Canadian & all but yeah IMPEACH
BUSH!!!!!!!!!!************
couldn't resist*
;))
Cheers EVERYBODY!!! Billy ;))
xoxoxooooooooooooooooooooo
i LOVE u Folks!!!!!!!!
Peace*
LOVE**************************************************************
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This thread continues to be hilarious. Carry on.
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Seen on your photo stream. (?)
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Given that this thread has run the course, I'm going to lock this puppy down.
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