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Hello everyone,
This is a learning process for all of us and we've had some issues come up that require clarification. Many of these are running around in different threads, so although this is a long post, it is much needed and will open up the floor for further questions and clarifications. Here goes - please feel free to ask more questions if you need more clarification:
#1 Point Scoring
1 artwork scores 1 point, no matter how many categories you submit to. You can tag as many categories as you want (which will help out the wiki peeps who are going to be parsing the group) but you can't elevate your score by adding the categories.
However, multiple photographs can be submitted to a category as long as they represent different works of art (each photograph will earn you 1 point). So you can elevate your score this way.
So, 5 different artworks depicting "mother" would get you 5 points, but 1 artwork submitted to multiple categories would only get you 1 point.
This clarification got started in this thread so you can read through if you'd like.
#2 Changing Lists
There were 4 lists that were changed on February 1 and this was not properly documented, so we are taking time to do that now. HMNS and IMA had major revisions until Feb 1 at 8PM EST; Monets were added to the MoMA list on Feb 1; Portraits were added to N-YHSJewish Museum list on Feb 1. All of these were last minute changes due to some co-ordination snafus and we apologize. We are doing three things to notify you to ensure you are shooting from the proper list: 1) notification via this thread 2) notes are being added to the lists on Wikipedia 3) we are emailing all registered participants who have selected any of these museums. My apologies. If we do this next year, we are going to build in extra time so these last-minute changes won't occur.
#3 Possible issues at MoMA
We were just informed last night that some of the artworks on MoMA's list may have been moved due to gallery rotation and are no longer on view. Victor will be investigating on Monday and we will be posting details about how this may change things here. Also, when we know more, we will be emailing all registered participants if you checked off MoMA. Give us a few days on this.
#4 Photos must be public to be qualify
This is a last minute addition to the general qualification guidelines - your photos must be public. The reason for this is we are programming a scoring solution and our scripting can only read photos in the group that are public. We've seen a few instances where participants are keeping the photos private, but adding them to the WLA group. This means members of the group can see them, but our scripting cannot, so in order to qualify and have your images scored, we need you to make them public. I realize that many of you curate your feeds and lots of WLA photos in your feed is less than ideal. I wish I had a way around this, but we don't. However, only the clean shot has to be public! The shot with the index card can remain private since we only use those for internal documentation. If you make only the clean shots public, that will work for us just fine.
#5 Pool closing procedures
Submissions must be sent to the Flickr WLA pool by midnight on the last day of February in whichever timezone the respective museum is in. We will be inserting markers at midnight of each timezone declaring closure at XYZ locations. Anything submitted after that cutoff will be deleted from the pool and not scored.
#6 Index Cards Argh!
At the Brooklyn Museum meetup last night, some of you were expressing frustration with the index card method and had a better solution that we are passing along now: You might want to get a small spiral notebook instead of cards and just flip the pages to create a new "card". Cool.
#7 Group Sorting Argh!
When you submit to the WLA group, documentation shots and clean shots get out of order. This is not ideal, but there's nothing we can do about it because it's just the way Flickr works :) If you are up for it, it might help us if you create a set on your profile using the "Organize" feature of Flickr. The museums may go and refer to it if there's a question. This is by no means a requirement - just some housekeeping that may help us. You can read more about this here and here.
#8 Help, I've hit my upload limit on a free account
We've noticed that many of you are using Flickr's free accounts which have upload limits and are starting to hit those limits quickly. When you upload, use Flickr's batch uploadr and resize everything to 1200 or 1600 wide. That will give you enough space in your account for the purposes of the contest and allow us to score the images properly. If you want to submit higher resolution images (note there are no resolution requirements for the project), flickrmail Pharos1 and he can send you instructions for that.
#9 (edit, added on 2/11/09) Changes at N-YHS
Photography of objects in the public domain is allowed in the 4th Floor Luce Center only. Shots must be taken in existing light only and no tripods can be used.
Many thanks for your patience and your support of Wikipedia Loves Art. It's pretty great to see everyone shooting in the galleries and your enthusiasm for the project has been wonderful. If you have not seen this yet, check out what Jimmy Wales has to say in this short video about the project.
Shelley
Brooklyn Museum
Originally posted at 10:26AM, 8 February 2009 PDT
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Brooklyn Museum edited this topic 52 months ago.
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Oy.
"emailing all registered participants if you checked off MoMA" reminded me, I *think* had initially not included FSLC; do my submissions then not count? Also, I am not sure what my teammates registered for.
How can we make sure that we're all down for all NYC museums?
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Submissions will count. Generally, we just need people to register so we have email addresses matched with Flickr accounts. If we see that people are uploading and we don't have registration info, we flickrmail them and ask them to register. Regarding which checkboxes, the important thing is registration generally and we are dealing with things from there.
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*phew* Thanks, again.
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I am confused. The instructions for the V&A scavenger hunt state: "Remember, you get one point for each photo that fits in one of these themes, even if you have twenty photos in the same theme." So how is it with multiple photos *of different items* which match each theme? Considering one of the themes was "Red" and another "Flowers", it would be quite possible to submit a hundred of photos to each theme...
Just as well I am planning another trip to V&A anyway. :)
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As I understand it you should think of it in terms of Wikipedia's needs: more examples of art objects to put up is better, hence 1 point per artwork-photo, with certain desired collections' importance underscored via specific list; the broader themes are really "everything in the public domain" a catch-all defined as themes simply for the "scavenginess" of it.
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Hi Veronika,
One of the problems we've had is the V&A's materials are not properly matching the rest of the group. This is a long story, but it now needs to be corrected. Can you tell me where this language is so we can be sure to go in and clarify?
Many thanks,
Shelley
edit: Found it in the PDF. We are going to talk to the London Wiki peeps and the V&A admins and figure out the best way to alert everyone to the standard language. Stay tuned and thanks for pointing this out.
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Brooklyn Museum edited this topic 52 months ago.
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Hi, apologies to anyone who has found our written material confusing on the subject of point scoring, i think it could have been made clearer and everyone is now being directed to this clarification thread for consistent information. I have emailed all our registered participants to clarify the information.
I hope we can look at it as an interesting and positive example of the sort of iterative process a project like this can become, a real collaboration between the institutions and all the participants to shape this and improve it for future projects.
thanks all for your enthusiastic participation :)
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Hello everyone,
We've had a few last minute changes to the guidelines at the N-YHS:
"Photography of objects in the public domain is allowed in the 4th Floor Luce Center only. Shots must be taken in existing light only and no tripods can be used. "
In addition to posting here, Flickr group description has been updated along with the N-YHS Wikipedia Goals page. We will be emailing all registered photographers in New York by the end the day tomorrow.
Many thanks,
Shelley
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Hi all,
Please note that a few works (4 Monets & 1 Cezanne) were taken down from our galleries and are no longer on The Museum of Modern Art's scavenger hunt list. You can see the updated list of works that can be photographed at MoMA for Wikipedia Loves Art here.
Please let me know if you have any questions.
Thanks!
Victor
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Could you please explain this part?
Shots submitted must be licensed with the correct creative commons license required by Wikipedia. That's got to be either "Attribution Creative Commons" or "Attribution-ShareAlike Creative Commons".
How do I do that?
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Hi andytang20,
cjn212 put together a nice tutorial on how to do change the licensing in batch, so check it out here:
sites.google.com/site/grotto212/w-a/organize
Shelley
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Aww, thanks for the props!
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How did the Houston Museum of Natural Science get the honor of participating in an art competition?
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Because they thought outside of the box (much like Film Society of Lincoln Center) and asked if they could participate. The project is about getting the wikipedia folks what they need and when asked, the wiki folks that we were working with were thrilled that these two came on board in less traditional ways. ~shelley
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