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you must have remembered the quintessential Phil from the old days, no?
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Could you guys enlighten me? I came in 2002 and I probably missed the quinessential Phil.
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As much as I'd LIKE to think I'd be high in the Sweepstakes, I haven't been around long enough to be a serious thread in PG's side.
I DID just have my reply to Ben Conover's post re: "Missing Posts?" deleted after about 20 minutes - I swear I was only being Helpful! Besides, I can't get my images all stored on disc until tonite - so I have to lay low to avoid being locked out of my own account. I reread PN's Terms of Use last night - scary stuff...
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I nuked my gallery after the last time Edmo and Grant got re-banned. Flickr is so much better at that there is no need to to manage photos at 2 locations. LF is better than any group on flickr because it appears to be tight knit whereas flickr gives me a feeling of getting lost.
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I basically only lurked from the good old days (was more into altphotography back then) and can’t remember specifics... ah there have been some stellar moments over the years. So hard to keep track of them all.
...but I was recently reminded of some quite dark “quintessential” stuff dating from early 2002.
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I get the impression the Leica Forum will be brought to heel… would not surprise if it becomes dry as a dingo scat in the Simpson Desert.
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Hi all. Hope you don't mind me wandering over from PN, where I was mainly a lurker, at least as far as the Leica forum is concerned. I've enjoyed the W/NW threads and the discussions (especially the more lively ones!)
This, of course, isn't the first breakaway Leica forum. Anyone remember Frank and his Underground Leica Forum?
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WC - I have no doubt but that ALL the Forum Mods got strict instructions from PG to clamp down - I don't know Tony but his ADMIN admonishment yesterday came as quite a surprise - considering the legendary behavior on the forum threads there...
What I find hard to believe is that he's let the ULFIE post stay as long as it has - bet he catches it from Big Brother for "allowing" it!
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You're very welcome here, Sean. Invite your friends. In fact, everyone's welcome to invite their friends - from the Photo.net Leica forum or elsewhere.
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Can we have just one rule please…?
No mention of Frank G
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Let's invite edmo and balaji and grant. Anyone know how to contact them?
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Both Edmo and Grant are here on Flickr...Edmo's nick is exactly that, Edmo. I forgot Grant's nickname right now, but he's definately around.
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Harvey Kneeslapper
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Turbo_Socke_GT [deleted] says:
Hi folks, I'm Volker with a pseudo since I now have issues giving my real name since I found my pictures an my name linked to a hardcore porn site on a certain ex Nikonian, PNet and RFF members website :-)
I don't know in which direction PNet will go, what Tony wrote the other day doesn't leave much room. No questions which can be answered with a google search, no chatter, no off topic.
So the typical Leica questions from the 0 Series to the LHSA MP3 are out as are the film and processing questions, some questions regarding the newer digital P&Ss and DMR as well as M8 may be allowed in the future. So I excpect the Leica Forum on PNet will be very boring in the future.
I liked the discussions we had up to the time where Edmo and Grant where banned. IMHO it was fun. I liked Jay too and the old Al Kaplan when he posted his rockstar pictures and talked about the old times.
Come to think of it, I had most fun at PNet in 2004 and realized the "freedom" the Leica forum on PNet hat when I linked a picture to the Canon forum to illustrate my use of flash which was removed promptly. Never posted on the Canon forum again.
I purged my gallery after the infamous W/NW thread where lots of pictures where deleted, I even had my links from PNet redirected to a picture of fallen over garbage cans for some time :-)
Rereading the Terms of Use on PNet, especialy with the advertising in mind, I found out that the creative commons license I choose for my pictures does not allow me to post them on PNet because linking them to amazon is comercial use, my companies firewall blocks most of PNets adds and so I'm not allowed to look at it at all!
Ok, so lets create a new comunity for the mentaly retarded camera users who happen to like old rangefinders but love photography and a friendly flamewar from time to time.
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Thank God - I miss the flame wars...
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Hey all, its "Heather M" I purged my portfolio at PN as well. I am keeping my PN account open because, well, fuckityfuck, I am paid up until Aug 2008. Philip really pissed me off when he dismissed a legitimate worry of mine so rudely. Its like China's account of Tienanmen Square in the feedback forum today. Nobody recalls the ruckus two days ago.
oh, and Todd Frederick just asked to have his profile & posting history removed.
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Heather, please ask Todd to join us here. And welcome! Got any pics to post for us?
PS I presume you're referring to the site feedback forum discussion of stalking? I was pretty shocked....
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Heather,
Welcome. How did he go about asking for the purge. I'm considering it as well.
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I didn't ask to have my history purged, but Todd Frederick asked, don't know if he will get his wish. Peter A had it done, but I don't know how he did it. My profile & posting history is still up, I just deleted my portfolio.
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Yeah, the stalking thread is what I am talking about. Once I figure this Flickr thing out, I'll post some pics :-)
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Heather. If you have any questions, do not hesitate to ask. I have over 2600 photos here, most of them not marked public. ;-)
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Hey guys, one more (soft) rule: Please eventually add a "Buddy Icon" (the only thing I really dislike about flickr) so that we don't have to look at those non-happy faces... ;-)
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Being able to mark things not for public is a cool function.
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Heather, I was there too, as were quite a few others, saw it all, and I want to stay as far away from that man as possible.
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Hey, Heather - me too - and I brought it up again, in another thread (http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00HwER) - seconded by another fellow to whom Philip has given this essentially non-response.
Geesh, there's medications for conditions like Philip's...
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Hey Trevor - did you notice that MY Helpful Response to poor Yann (and my gentle chiding of YOU, tee-hee) - has been summarily deleted? Yeah, folks, I'm downloading in prep for deletion, too. I'm even getting subtle warnings in my port.comments!
Meantime, Richard Watts' port is down to 1 pic, but I don't know why -
Chris - working on that replacement icon!
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Ha!!! I thought why am I here??? Lee suggested I join, then I began to read and got to this little gem!!!
His Travels with Samantha had a chapter (Marriage and Montana I think) where he banged on about how Australian women were uncultured and had no respect for learning and advancement and classical music (unlike American women) and therefore he could never respect one!
That does it!!!! Didn't need to read further, that's all (s)he wrote!!!
Grrrrrrrrrrrr
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Turbo_Socke_GT says: "Hi folks, I'm Volker with a pseudo since I now have issues giving my real name since I found my pictures an my name linked to a hardcore porn site on a certain ex Nikonian, PNet and RFF members website"
We should form a club all on our own!
I’m so astonished how some silverspooned MIT grad can came back to a place he once ditched (no monetary value) and start waving his bam-bam stick around? Incredible. With no clear goals and a bunch of maybe’s, he just starts tossing people out of the sandbox like a bully. That’s what he is, a bully.
Anyway, peace people. Good to see you again.
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You guys remember the very long thread in PN's street/doc forum by Robert Johnson asking What Now? There were a few acrimonious posts, then Jeff cleaned it up a bit and I thought that was that. Now 80% of it has vanished -- all that remains is Jeff's answer and a few comments under it. Surely PG came back and asked Jeff to clean it all out.
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I'd bet some money that Atkins is doing most of the deleting.
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Wouldn't be surprised if he is... He frequently objected to totally on-topic discussions in the POW forum, saying that people were "hijacking" the forum to talk about "the meaning of life." Seems he wanted only a very narrow discussion of whether the photog got the exposure and focus right.
On a separate note, check out the third photo down in this w/nw thread:
photo.net/bboard/nw-fetch-msg?msg_id=00HyNv&tag=
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Turbo_Socke_GT [deleted] says:
Since we're mostly PNet bashing instead of posting picture I'd like to add another 2 Eurocents.
I'm new to Flikr but when I compare Flikr to PNet I think getting attention to your pictures, wether for critique or selling them, is much easyer here. The possibility to open a group for discussion is a benefit PNet hasn't.
I have some experience with various content management systems in combination with picture management and forums.
A combination of one of the forum sysstems and a picture management software beats the crap out of the software pnet is based on.
For my own site I used Siteframe, the software made for the Contax G pages, and recently switched to Wordpress with Menalto Gallery 2.
Nowadays comunity sites are based on LAMP, Linux Apache Mysql Perl|PHP, and the Aolserver, TCL, Oracle aproach is very limiting today. Oracle is oversized and too exepensive for the task, TCL is a programing language with too few users and AOL server is even less used.
When PNet had its Oracle and hardware issues in 2003 they should have ported the content to a better supported system, better supported in a sense that it is easyer accessible to hobby users and thus improved by peer review and more input to the maintainers. Thats why Opensource Software builds the basis for Web 2. Widely available and everybody with some programing experience can tweek it to his needs.
I remember a post by Phil Askey from dpreview where he explained why he used a Microsoft Platform for his site and that he would have used LAMP too a couple of years later.
If PG wants to comercialize PNet he better moves it to another platform, I can image Phil Askey gets rebates from MS we can only dream of, PNet on the other hand is so instable that Oracle can't deem it a marketing oportunity for 9i.
Pnet doesn't get cameras for review, whereas most other popular photography sites do, so it may not be a preferred marketing platform for camera producers either and I don't think the forums are the reason. Camera producers can live with the forums on DPreview where a lot of bitching is going on.
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Just a note that the link here to ULFIE from Tony's ADMIN thread has disappeared, as well as my question about joining...
No surprise there - word of mouth it is, then, from now on.
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hi all. :-) good to see the familiar names here.
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Turbo_Socke_GT [deleted] says:
PNet needs the hits for their addvertizers but they don't want any hit, so they have to censor information about competing websites.
And by the way, ever tried a less common question with a google search? PNet ist pretty high in the ranking but the answers are mostly useless, often you just get a link to a thread which you then have to search for yourself.
Probably this is what Phil wants to change, google searcheable questions and answers, a Wiki would be perfect for this, but how do you implement a wiki on the PNet platform?
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You can also request people's pnet email and email them directly about this forum.
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Lee and I have both put statements on our bio page explaining why we're gone. About ten people have emailed me to ask for more details. Besides explaining the situation, I have generally been praising flickr's software -- as Jeremy has been for a long time -- so I expect that eventually many people will move here. Lee of course has a following in the hundreds...
That's mainly not Leica forum people, but it's dedicated PNers. For the Leica forum, I think it's worth emailing a few people and word will gradually get around.
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Could someone invite Peter A?
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I think he's here if you want to write:
www.flickr.com/people/33093861@N00/
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Peter told me he was keen to do more shooting and less net time. I dare say he'll pop up at some stage.
Anhtu. nice to see you are here also.
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Don't nobody say anything stupid and nobody gets made fun of. Any body see Atkins's head roll by? Maybe in a basket with a bunch of others?
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Longtime LF lurker here, followed you all right over....looking forward to more ruckus debates. My leicas and I are honoured to join you here in exile!
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Hi, Ben S from PN here. I can barely understand Flickr and spell Leica, but if you will have me I'd like to participate in the group.
I too have strong feelings about has happened there. For example, Heather, I was profoundly disturbed with how you and the issue you raised were treated, and by how Brian was treated. These and many other events and statements seem to me to be signs of things to come -- I don't want to be a part of something built in such a manner,although this saddens me greatly given my four years of partcipation there.
As an amateur, my pnet public porftolio is useful to me. Until I build something else up elsewhere (and I haven't quite the heart right now), I'm probably going to leave some things there, but I deleted more than 100 photos this morning, and left a message on my community member page indicating some of my sentiments. I'm also unwilling to continue with a discussion page for photo posters, Five, that started about six months ago, and may have to delete it soon, as I do not want to contribute to the site.
I put a photo into the critique forum dedicated to Brian (who I banged heads with plenty, by the way); its a small thing, but I think he deserved better, and that his treatment is a symbol of the transition. There's a link to it from my community member page if you care to see it or leave a comment..
So, that's where I am. I hope I am welcome despite my Leica ignorance. Thanks.
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Hi Ben, I started with Flikr a few hours ago, it's pretty straight forward and not that bad dokumented. Some things are a bit tricky to find but there are helpfull hints on most of the pages you need to set up.
Actualy Iike it here, lots of posibilities. Should have joined much earlier.
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Wow! Just found out we can edit our posts here! The world is full of wonders :-)
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Ben, he pissed off tons of people in that thread. Grrr. Still get mad thinking about it. Pffft. Don't worry about the Leica thing so much... many of us who posted in that forum didn't even own one :-)
This Flickr thing is pretty easy to figure out so far... I have been linking my images in the NW threads via HTML IMG tags.
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Thanks Turbo, Heather. I'm a little slow, but I'll be looking through Flickr more over the next few weeks.
As for that guy, he's not worth wasting time discussing. I'm just sorry Heather had to endure such nonsense about something that serious.
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I must have missed the fireworks. I just saw where Atkins and Phil seem to be buddies so yea, real names are in the offing . Too bad but given the unforeseeable nature of web information nobody gets mine.
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I'm so glad people are using flickr. It's from vancouver as well as I, and when they were in beta before yahoo bought them, I made an anouncment on the leica forum that i thought they'd appreciate it but instead everyone sorta boo'd me off stage. Except for Trevor H I think. At the time, I thought either the Leica F or I was on dope. I thought this was the best place since sliced bread and everyone would love it. Anyway, it took a bit of time but it's super cool to see so many newcomers gravitating over and loving the place!
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yes Eric, nice bit of software this Flickr thing. been using it for just over a month and starting to get a bit comfortable with it. quite fun to use as well. I think turning sets on/off would be great if possible, and the forum tools needs a bit more work. ie - needs to offer group posts.
one feature I really like is the tags. public/global - nice to get lost in the tag tree.
This place is starting to smell a bit like LF. :-)
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Eric people are comfortable with what that know. I’ve been meaning to come over here for lord knows how long. It just never happened till now. Glad I got off my arse and kicking myself for not having done it sooner.
Benn S nice to see you… mate this place is made for someone like you there’s a niche here somewhere. If not start your own.
blakley has posted some excellent tips on the basics and some of the other threads at ULFiE are helful too.
It takes a few hours to get adjusted to some of the basics but the interface is so straightforward. I’m able to do things from here that were just not possible at PN.
So Eric probably would not have come was it not for your influence.
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The map thing is great
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It's pretty interesting seeing which of your pictures people seem to find interesting.
Apparently people like the pictures I take when doing laundry or commuting LOL
This is a third party flickr thing by effpunkt that shows your most popular pictures. Just enter your screen name into one of the fields at the bottom.
flickr.effpunkt.net/phpflickr/interestingness.php?usernam...
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Cool
cheers bartf
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Damn, I'm really getting to like the software interface over here... very, very nice. Only thing I don't like is the buddy icons -- they clutter up the page, I think.
My attitude was like Craig's. I knew from several people -- especially Jeremy -- that flickr had better functionality. But I was always too lazy to bother coming over and really trying it out. Should've come sooner, since let's face it, outside of the street/doc forum, street photography is pretty unappreciated at PN.
I've noticed one minor issue. On your photo page, under each thumbnail (and boy the thumbnails are big!), it says, "© This photo is public." I think viewers unfamiliar with flickr's terms might read that as: "This photo is for public use, feel free to download."
One other point is that there doesn't seem to be as much of a "critique culture" here as there is among certain circles of friends at PN. But it'd be easy to develop that by starting groups devoted to detailed, no-holds-barred critiques.
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Chris - you can turn that off and people wont be able to download your pic. well it's not hard to get around it if you know what you're doing. check in your profiles.
as for crits : check this one out
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One thing i like doing is making favorites as I surf flickr. after awhile they build up and then viewing them as a slideshow is cool as well.
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I see the download prevention thing now... The thumbs can still be downloaded, but who cares.
Yeah, the famous HCB deleteme thread. Heard about that one. ;-) There's a blog out there somewhere -- can't recall where -- with a page giving tongue-in-cheek critiques of a bunch of famous photos, telling Winogrand to hold the camera straight, that sort of thing.
Marking favorites was something missing at PN. The only way to do it would be to give the photo a high rating, thus putting it your "top-rated" list. If, like me, you didn't go in for rating, there was no convenient way to bookmark stuff.
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I think 'this photo is public' only shows under your pictures and not under your contact's pictures.
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Chris: Here's the blog you might be talking about. Just scroll down it is about 2/3 of the way down. It's call The Online Photographer. Great read.
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Ben S again. I really enjoyed exchanging honest, constructively stated critiques of photos with others at PN. Please, feel free to be as honest and as critical as you would like about anything I post, what you find wanting and how I might improve an image. I'm glad to do the same with anyone who would like me to, and would enjoy being a part of any such group.
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G'day everyone. Nice to see a lot of familiar names of decent people and some others who I dont knwo even. Looking forward to seeing all your pics and readign what you have to say.
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Turbo_Socke_GT [deleted] says:
:-)
Just had a thread deleted in which I answered in the site feedback forum.
Again nudes of cause.
I stated that I have muslim friends from Turkey and Lebanon who think that women have to be covered all day but since we have just 10% muslims in germany and less than 10% of those are true belivers we stick to the old christian tradition where Adam and Eve where naked :-)
Unluckyly I didn't switch on the e-mail alert and thus I must have missed most of the fun with the US Taliban who want to ban nudity around the world..
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Update, in a thread about deletion my comments where faster deleted than I could press the F5 key. So I deleted my account at PNet, they don't want me there and why should I insist on contributing if I'm not welcome?
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Hey -- I think I recognize a few people over here.
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Any dissenting viewpoint is getting deleted within minutes.
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Hate to say it, but I think its well beyond hope, influencing anything there is not possible. They are locked in and on the march. Time (for me) to face it and turn the page. I've deleted my entire portfolio today (taking out the remainder of 150 something photos) except one for Brian, whose treatment I think is the best sign of what has happened there (as well as the treatment of the stalker issue Heather raised). I left a revised last statement, and said my goodbyes to friends. I'll be here in fits and starts, its a busy month, but thanks very much for having me, it makes a big difference.
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"The current policy is to make the forums more attractive by cutting out as much of the crap as possible." -- Bob Atkins (www.BobAtkins.com) Photo.net Hero Photo.net Patron, sep 10, 2006; 08:34 p.m.
Apparently we all just missed another whiz-bang funny thread on nudes and porn...
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Chris, Bob and the other moderators/managers are just turning on a dime to please the new boss. He was as off topic and inappropriate as anyone in the feedback forums for years. I was active in the forum for two years and I have never been shy, but I think its no use. Its over. There's nothing left to do really but to find and build alternatives. Here's to doing that up ahead.
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Atkins's head swelled a couple of years ago just after that large fundraiser - he figured he was in line for a stipend. Now begins another pnms cycle with his new love.
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Maybe we should rename this thread, "Down with PN!" ;-)
I've added a line at the head of my bio page there that reads, "Nostalgia buff. Off-brand photographer. Dissident elf."
Yes... I'm outing myself...
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Hey Pete, good to see you mate!
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Trevor:
What do I do now? Do I say this group boogies, the way you did to help ruin my thread on making large prints from Ricoh GR-D files? Thanks, mate.
—Mitch/Paris
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Gudaaaay Pete… hows ya been
Oh Mitch… so glad you brought that grooving cat along.
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For Chris.:)
I've added a line at the head of my bio page there that reads, "Nostalgia buff. Off-brand photographer. Dissident elf."
Yes... I'm outing myself...
Ummm - I did this for the wicked elvsies once...them plotting the banning of 2 rather naughty PN participants in POW.;)
in that I'm outing myself too.:)
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Err, I just fell on to this party....either fortunately or unfortunately I somehow missed all the happeining over at PN the last few weeks. I do like flickr's software, though the forum thing, doesn't seem to work like PN, though its relatively new. Seems like it got micky monk at pnyet.
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A lot of stuff went down pretty quickly and all got deleted and thus covered over just as fast. You had to be at right place at right time to see it all unfold. I got bad insomnia ATM so been getting some scanning in at the wee hours. While the scans were in progress I filled in at PN and did catch most of it.
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Mitch, love that kitty. Showed him to my cat, and now he's dancing right along.
Peta, that's Patrick, isn't it? And, I think, Mary behind him. Glad we're out together.
G'day, Pete.
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Turbo_Socke_GT [deleted] says:
I'm not sure but is Phil something like a practical joker whom I can't understand?
From his Blog entry where he searches a programmer:
I’m a little out of touch with what it takes to attract good programmers these days. Please comment on the following ad…
Which one reaches after reading this:
(Programmers, starting off with massive egos and having little contact with other human beings, are perhaps the worst overestimators of all, especially the 80% of programmers whose contributions are purely negative.)
As far as my expiriences hiring personal go, this is not the way to do it.
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Greenspin who? huh? -:) just laugh - life is short. I am sorry it took me so long to suss out just how gutless some of his moderating henchmen are - they are worse in my book .
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Turbo_Socke_GT [deleted] says:
So Brian resigned today. In case this thread won't live to long I took a screenschot:
right click for full size
and here's the text:
Thanks and some news
Brian Mottershead , sep 11, 2006; 08:10 a.m.
I'd like to thank everybody who wished me well in the recent (now deleted) threads. I did get to read all of them through the alerts that were being sent, and I appreciated those posts greatly.
A bit of news is that I resigned from photo.net this morning. I suppose that means, among other things, that Philip can't continue to prohibit me from posting on the site, but I don't plan to do so anyway after this. Perhaps Ray Fraser will allow this post to remain long enough for Site Feedback regulars to be able to read it.
Anyway, thanks again for your support over the past few years, especially to the subscribers, moderators, the wonderful photographers, and the forum posters and commenters who have made photo.net what it is. I hope our paths will cross again on the Internet soon.
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Shall we have a betting pool to guess how long that thread will last?
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Volker - lol - I copied and saved it too!
Can't believe the Puppet Moderator has allowed it - but then, he's been letting the weirdest crap stay up, so who knows? Perhaps Philip isn't around to pull his strings this AM yet...
As for the programmer's position - wonder how well it's gonna pay? Dependent on the personality of the applicants, I suppose (can you just imagine the interview ?'s) - but from his quoted description of programmers, at least they should be fairly good photographers!
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Check the WNW 'Phallus' thread ; )
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Another good thread, started by Bill Thorlin here. In case it disappears, here's his question, followed by an amazingly puppet-like response from Mr. Tool.
Management - may I have some clarification please ?
Bill Thorlin Photo.net Patron, sep 11, 2006; 10:26 a.m.
DELETION POLICY - I understand that it is policy for many threads to be deleted within 24 hours and in some cases 12. Members of this site are spread around the globe and cover every conceivable time zone. This means that a thread can have come and gone ( even the 24 hour life ones ) before quite a lot of people ever get a chance to see it and it may be of importance/interest to them. Is this fair and would it not be better to have a 48 hour minimum cut off ?
FILM - I understand the sense in some amalgamation of forums. I frequently look at the Unified Forum and it appears to me that film represents as large a proportion of threads as does any other genre/interest and shows a considerable base of participants ( you have access, I presume, to the relative posting records on this ). Does it not deserve a normal heading on the home page rather than the "nostalgia buffs" epithet that it currently has ? It cannot be very pleasant for the current participants and would surely not encourage new ones to come here.
FORUM RULES - I understand that concentration on the topic is now essential and that anything else is out of order. Does this mean we must restrict ourselves to "does xxx work on yyy or should I use a zzz" ? On the forums I look at most often there is a degree of camaraderie that to my mind makes the forum even more of a pleasure and frequently adds to the knowledge that is imparted. The bald "facts only" basis would in my opinion make the forum a much more sterile environment. Should there not be some lightening up here ?
COMMUNITY - this is a frequently used word on this site and figures prominently in official usage. I do not understand what is meant by the word on this site and would appreciate some clarification.
ONE PRODUCT EMPHASIS - looking at the home page there is an almost total emphasis on one brand ( Canon ) with a small element for another ( Nikon ). I believe that it was also said that Canon would be the only brand recommended as it would be the only one still around in 20 years time ( thread deleted I believe ). Is this official policy and all other brands are considered to be "off brands" with a very limited future ? If this is so then does this not indicate to users of other brands that, in addition, they have a very short future on this site and would it not definitely discourage newcomers using these "off brands" ?
GALLERY & RATE RECENT - this was part of the reason that I came on here but after looking at it I decided it was too fraught to be worthwhile. Are there any plans for a radical re-think on the whole concept ?
SUBSCRIPTIONS - it would appear that these are to be done away with. I am surprised that such a source of income is not required. Is this purely an economic decision or is there some element of reaction to "people getting above themselves" ? Are there any plans to refund the balance of an "unused" subscription to the person who paid it ?
Answers
Bob Atkins (www.BobAtkins.com) Photo.net Hero Photo.net Patron, sep 11, 2006; 12:39 p.m.
If you wait a while I think things will become clearer. I don't think all the things you're asking about have yet been decided.
There's no intent that I know of to exclude brands other than Canon. Canon gets more coverage for two reasons. First I've been writting 90% of the product reviews and I use Canon. Since I've been reviewing a lot of my own gear, you get a lot of coverage of Canon.
Second, Canon is the best selling brand of DSLRs, followed by Nikon, so Canon (and Nikon) get most of the coverage since it's the system that most people use. I'm sure this won't be to the exclusion of everything else though.
I'm sure that when the times comes and all the decisions have been made Philip will announce the details.
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Chris - isn't that a great one? There's a very interesting read in the Feedback announcements section, from June, by Sylvie - that is eerily predictive...
Trevor - I think it's quite possible that E. may be the sweepstakes winner...Begging your permission in advance, E, but I quote from a port. entry you made on PN :
"I found my previous account inexplicably deleted a couple of days ago. Couldn't log on, all my previous postings - no matter how innocuous - wiped from each thread in which they had appeared. No warning, no notice, no explanation. (So I, er, just created a new account in the same name using the same email address and the same password.) Um, I'm sure it was just an IT error and nothing to do with all the critical posts I was making."
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You know, when stuff happens, Sylvie only gets funnier. Check out her response to this one. (And she's got lots of girlfriends who, um, look like they have nice personalities, too.)
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Chris - did you notice this on that thread?
"The following keywords and/or sponsored links have been extracted automatically from the posts in this thread: photography, camera"
First time I've seen THIS notation, eh? Gee - "Photography" and "camera" seem rather - uhh - broad, wouldn't you say? Gonna pop right up to the top of the heap on Google.
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Oy... you have to see this thread. He expects people to not only use their real full names but also thinks it would be keen to have them locatable on a map as well! They should rename the site StalkersEmporium.net
Heather M
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Turbo_Socke_GT [deleted] says:
What I thought when I read that!
OTOH google maps is cool and I geotag the articles in my blog. It's fun to show where you took a picture.
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Heather - shoulda checked this first! Oh, well, doesn't hurt to have it in both places...Did you also check his other response to Bill Thorlin's question?
Musta bought himself a Spin Doctor...
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I agree that geotagging is a really cool tool. I have geotagged most of the photos I have here with the map thingie & it was fun. However, having my full name & zipcode as Philip suggests would be enough for any stranger to easily locate where I live. This isn't something I want any website to have power over.
Just so people know, I am not an overly paranoid person. I have had threatening snail mail sent to my home & my job on two seperate occasions. Both originated with an online community. One of those was from photo.net. It was after that I asked Brian to change my last name to just my initial. He had no problem with my request.
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Turbo_Socke_GT [deleted] says:
Yep, geotagging pictures and articles is different to show your location.
And on a photosite tagging the pictures with their locations makes sense. Tagging the photographers doesn't. If you where looking for pictures from madrid it wouldn't help if you knew I'm in germany.
On the other hand, I have my full name and address on my website, german law requires this, so if somebody want to find me, he certainly can. And with some knowledge about domain registering I found the guy who found me and he gets threating letters from my lawyer for violating my copyright :-)
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Ah yess... whois... I had my full name, address & phone number posted by someone who was upset with something I said on an old stephen king usenet group once. He thought he was spiffy with the whois from my old website. Nothing ever came of it... not even a crank call. I moved away shortly after so none of the info was valid for very long anyways (do I have bad luck or what??!) With my current setup, I no longer worry about that (go ahead & whois my site... absinthe-green.net) At least we have the option to pay a little extra for our privacy here in the states.
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BTW...This being able to edit your posts thing is great.
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I have always been utterly amazed by the largish number of people who post even their home address and phone number online.
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photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00I0fd&tag=
classy as ehbros!!
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Tony speaks...
www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00I0fF
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Eeellliiiooootttt.
ick.
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If I start a NW thread with this image & request NO WORDS, I bet Eliot will report it & it will be deleted.
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