Technique / Discuss

RNEVES    says:

I tried this technique a week ago and one of the instructions hawkjh posted is particularly important: manual focus at the incense stick and then shooting as many pictures you may want.
Also, if you have Photoshop or other good post processing tool, you may also want to invert the image and colorize parts of the smoke or, if you are shooting RAW and want to use the regular smoke picture without conversion, I found out that playing with the white balance setting can enhance the images.
Here are my first attempts from last week:

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|| Leontien ||    says:

Thanks for your instructions hawkjh!

I think I'm going to try again tonight, I tried a week ago but nothing but out of focus shots... Great levels tip by the way! I used to get really grey-ish backgrounds. I'm pleased that at least that one is solved...
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hawkjh [deleted] says:

Aiming the flash upwards (if you can get it off camera) might help, but the benefit with smoke is the high contrast between foreground and background ... this allows you to use the levels setting in photoshop to a nice black easily.

The only other thing you could do is put distance between the subject and the black background so that the flash doesn't reach it ... relies on you having a large black background though.

Love the idea of bubbles though ... will give it a go !

@rneves: Wow !! Fantastic shots and great idea !

John
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felix.h    says:

No need for a sofa, if you've got a joss stick. I first tried it with candles (bad idea), but joss sticks are perfect.




Posted 70 months ago. (permalink)

Beausmiley    says:

wow those are great
Posted 70 months ago. (permalink)

SuniL. says:

awsome - am gona try it
Posted 70 months ago. (permalink)

indian nomad says:

Great post! Thanks for these pointers... Am definitely gonna try it. Don't have an external flash though. Will make use of something else :)
Posted 70 months ago. (permalink)

*saxon* says:

Thanks for the tips, I love the effect!
Posted 66 months ago. (permalink)

jeebus!    says:

I used this technique awhile ago and got these on my first couple of tries:
Posted 66 months ago. (permalink)

Ms Ladyred says:

Thank you for this tutorial...Can hardly wait to try some
Posted 66 months ago. (permalink)

Ryan Yam says:

Wow, this is really interesting. I've wondered how people do those kind of shots before. Can't wait to try this out too. Great tutorial!
Posted 66 months ago. (permalink)

djKianoosh    says:

very cool stuff.. i wonder if i can use this photo here to do something like that:


Exposure: 0.013 sec (1/80)
Aperture: f/4.8
Focal Length: 38 mm
no flash.
Posted 66 months ago. (permalink)

Everaldo & Dara    says:

Thanks hawkjh, I will try that...
Posted 66 months ago. (permalink)

preritkumarmathur says:

I tried it for something different...here r the results..thanx




Posted 66 months ago. (permalink)

Rodrigo Perez says:

thank you.
Posted 66 months ago. (permalink)

RottieLover♥ says:

Thank you for the great tutorial!


Posted 66 months ago. (permalink)

hawkjh [deleted] says:

Thanks for the replies everyone ... it's really nice to see people getting some amazing results !!

John
Posted 66 months ago. (permalink)

aubergene says:

I sort of came across this technique by trial and error, wish I had done a search first, great tutorial. Thanks


Posted 66 months ago. (permalink)

héctor* says:

Thanks for the tutorial, I'll try it son
Posted 66 months ago. (permalink)

Erika Almeida says:

Hi ppl this is my first try but i still have some problemes with the light, can any one help me and give me some tips?! this is some that i cought right




thanks guys for your great tips
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mark_wong says:

thanks for posting this! i definately want to give this a try, the results look so amazing!
Posted 65 months ago. (permalink)

martinnicholls    says:

Any idea how this might work without an external flash?
Posted 65 months ago. (permalink)

aitek    says:

prolly not too well, flash is most likely the key ingredient, heres my attempt:


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Vincént    says:

It's vital to have a good lighting. i.e. flash.
Might be alright with a strong light too, but I'm not very sure.

My first day's attempt.
No post-colorisation, just a fine level adjustment.


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K-1000    says:

Good success here, this was fun.

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doctian    says:

such a great tip but I'm having a hard time getting a good one with my point and shoot. can someone please tell me what i'm doing wrong? thanks.

www.flickr.com/photos/doctian/sets/72157594500432349/
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Mirko Ivancic Photography says:

What you need to make sure that your camera is shooting at a faster speed since it is a point and shoot. Try having it take a picture at around 1/200s and it will look a lot better.
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doctian    says:

thanks inSepsis. i'll try that.
Posted 65 months ago. (permalink)

Carla Finley    says:

Vega, what did you use for your black background? I have tried this over and over and do not get a good result. Kudos to all of you that have such great photos!
Posted 65 months ago. (permalink)

hawkjh [deleted] says:

@carlafinley

Anything black and non-reflective will generally be okay ... if you can shoot in a darkened room, placing some distance between your subject and the background will help as well (the drop off in light from the flash is very quick).

However - it's unlikely you'll get the jet-black backgrounds you see here straight out of the camera. That's where a levels adjustment comes in ... if you look at the histogram you'll see a big spike towards the left end ... moving the black marker into that spike will turn everything beyond that point black and give you the nice background you are seeing here.

John
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Badger Waffle says:

Thank you for the tutorial I got really excited when some of my pics came out :)

This was a montage:

Posted 65 months ago. (permalink)

bunbon says:

I'm excited to try this. How do you do the colored smoke?
Posted 65 months ago. (permalink)

spacepleb says:

Thanks for this, I had to have a go at this with my two young lads Harry and Nat who both enjoyed the challenge. It has inspired me to keep the flash OFF the camera - I need to get a remote triggering lead. I achieved this by having a 4 second exposure in the dark then hand-firing the flash.
Posted 64 months ago. (permalink)

freakdog says:

Excellent - lit this with a desk lamp.
My dining room still smells of sandalwood and patchouly though Yuck!
Posted 64 months ago. (permalink)

aubergene says:

I find it hard to get *really* high quality images, there is always quite a lot of grain/noise, even with noise reduction on, any tips?
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Gert van Duinen    says:

Haven't read any 'how'to's' yet, but I did my first super fast expirimentation today. It's fun, but I'm far from satisfied yet. I'll read this tread a bit more toroughly to get better results.

♣ cresk™

Shreelesh Kumar [Digitally Doomed] says:

Thanks for the technique... I've tried just 2 shots and this is the second one... Never got the time to try after that...

"Love Is A Smoke Made With The Fume Of Sighs." - William Shakespeare

Do view it larger.
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lilcrazyfuzzy says:

Just had a try, that was fun
(Although the position was a bit uncomfortable!)

click:

Posted 64 months ago. (permalink)

kiko1703 says:

I tried doing it but I’m having a problem with the light. Did you guys use a regular flashlight or the camera flash? I used a flashlight but i can't get good smoke shots. Any tips on lighting and distance between camera-incense-background would be great.

Thanks guys!!!
Posted 64 months ago. (permalink)

spacepleb says:

kiko1703, I used a camera flash, off camera. I hand fired the flash - mostly as I don't have any means to remote fire it. I held the flash close underneath the smoke, but so it cannot be seen by the camera. As I was hand firing it I used a pitch black room and a fairly long exposure then looked at the histogram on the camera to check the exposure - adjusting the aperture accordingly. The smoke was not far in front of a dark background. Once happy with the result in camera I adjusted the levels inwards (software) - especially the black end until the background vanished. I was very happy with the result.
Posted 64 months ago. (permalink)

howangcturtle says:

Yeah same, i don't understand flash"fires upwards (or through) into the smoke " . i got it half worked out....... also i couldn't find a black background =(
Posted 64 months ago. (permalink)

kiko1703 says:

Thanks SPACE;
How do flash the light into the smoke without being seen by camera? Do you have your insense far away from the camera?
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Badger Waffle says:

Shoot the smoke from the side with the flash.

Set your incense stick on the table. Put the camera where you want it and then stick the flash to one side of another. You'll need to e able to trigger your flash off camera.
Posted 63 months ago. (permalink)

Paul Benjamin [StrikingShots Photography]    says:

It's just a case of lighting it properly, no need to do anything to crazy in photoshop to be honest...
Posted 63 months ago. (permalink)

HyPer CloUdS says:

how are u people gettin all these crazy colours!!??:O
Posted 63 months ago. (permalink)

Steve.Haigh    says:

That's pretty cool. Here's my first attempt:



I got the colour by inverting the photograph and then using the Hue/Saturation tool to colorize the smoke in Photoshop.

Thanks for the tutorial.
_stv™
Posted 63 months ago. (permalink)

KVBPhotos    says:

...I'm glad to find this topic!

I was trying to come up with a similar effect, only with milk...

This is what I came up with.



But reading this technique discussion is very inspirational, especially since I used a good bit of this technique in my milk photo... the dark background the underlighting through the swirls and such.

....now i'm going to have to try the smoke. Cool!
Posted 63 months ago. (permalink)

Don Giovanní says:

This technique was so difficult to replicate, but i finally got it to rahtid...



Unfortunately i dont have those fancy lights and thing, so i used a bright flashlight and covered it with hand-towel to diffuse the light, but it still wasnt bright enuff... so i had to use the camera flash and covered that with piece of paper, so the light wasnt that intense to show the background
Posted 63 months ago. (permalink)

nomkcalb says:

Hi,
here are some shots I've done over this spring.







and if you don't mind me posting this, here is a step by step tutorial I made on how I make my smoke pictures.
www.dpchallenge.com/tutorial.php?TUTORIAL_ID=59
Posted 62 months ago. (permalink)

Aisha Adam says:

amzing idea i will try it and i hope i will make something
come near this beauty ...
Posted 62 months ago. (permalink)

jah~    says:

Instead of PSing I tried applying colored lights:



-- from jahdakine - (?)
Posted 62 months ago. (permalink)

Laura {Just For Kicks}    says:

This was just my first attempt. I played with the same shot a bit, just to get a feel for it. I will DEFINITELY be playing with it some more!! I had fun!



inverted


played with the color levels a bit

Posted 62 months ago. (permalink)

Lindenhouse    says:

Those are great Laura! The shape reminds me of a calla lily. This is a fun technique also using water ... www.flickr.com/groups/technique/discuss/72157600025287113/
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sometimessway says:

i got a new camera yesterday (fujifilm finepix s5700) and i decided to try out taking pictures of smoke for my first adventure with it. my best picture is below. i need to find better lighting and a better background to use, but i'm pretty pleased with it for my first attempt.


Posted 59 months ago. (permalink)

Charlie...Redding... says:

farm2.static.flickr.com/1398/944043425_b2b5b5f0e3.jpg?v=0
Posted 59 months ago. (permalink)

RottieLover♥ says:

nomkcalb: That's a fantastic tutorial! Thank you!
Posted 59 months ago. (permalink)

jeet_sen says:

Thank you all for the technique hints. Here are some of my results:



Posted 59 months ago. (permalink)

alfastino8    says:

Thanks for the lesson! Here's my fav result:


Posted 58 months ago. (permalink)

Dayve Rampas says:

This is awesome...
Posted 58 months ago. (permalink)

Like a Bird Studios says:

I've tried these several times and i cnat get the lighting right. I don't have an off camera flash or anything like that. The first time I used a flood light pointed at the smoke and had some tracing paper over it to diffuse the light a bit. then the second time i tried a flashlight pointing right at the smoke.
Both gave too much extra light onto the black background. I also tried changing hte ISO but that didn't help much (i usually have it set at 200).
Any suggestions please! Mainly with just flood lights/flashlights/desk lamps cause atm i cnat afford to buy something. maybe in a month or so tho.
thanks
Posted 58 months ago. (permalink)

Bart Reardon    says:

I did some smoke a while back...but the other day I tried with water and food dye :)


Posted 58 months ago. (permalink)

Like a Bird Studios says:

anyone have any advice for me? (question is 3 posts up)
Posted 58 months ago. (permalink)

__Dominique__    says:

Here is my first attempt...


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hpebley3    says:

Kendra_J_K asked:
I've tried these several times and i can't get the lighting right. I don't have an off camera flash or anything like that. The first time I used a flood light pointed at the smoke and had some tracing paper over it to diffuse the light a bit. Then the second time I tried a flashlight pointing right at the smoke.
Both gave too much extra light onto the black background. I also tried changing the ISO but that didn't help much (i usually have it set at 200).

So, as I understand the problem, you're getting too much light from your light source on your background?

Four things come to mind (can all be used in any combination as needed):

1) Limit the light at the source. First make sure the light illuminating the smoke is the only light available; turn off the other lights in the room. Second, mask the light source so the light only goes where you want it. For example, take some black paper and wrap it around the flashlight/floodlight so you have a much narrower beam of light. Or take a piece of flat cardboard and tape it to the side closest to the background; this will put the background in the shadow cast by the cardboard.

2) Move the light closer to the smoke so its dispersion pattern ends up being out of frame on the other side.

3) Move the background further away from the smoke. Force the light to have to go farther (out of frame) before it hits the background.

4) Handle it in post processing. Pull up the histogram adjustment tool and push the black side closer towards the middle so the dark greys, which end up almost black in the background, are made really black.

Hope this helps.
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Like a Bird Studios says:

hpebley3-
thanks for the tips :) i think ill try putting some black cardboard around the flashlight/trying to block it better that way.
maybe ill get the chance to try some out tomorrow and see how it goes
thanks again :)
Posted 58 months ago. (permalink)

ksquires    says:

Here's a slightly different take on this topic (for cross-eyed viewing):


A set of them.
Posted 58 months ago. (permalink)

ayashok photography    says:

my first try on smoke


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al-noof says:

here's mine :

1-


2-


[ click for a better view ]
Posted 58 months ago. (permalink)

Sarah Schloo    says:

Thanks so much for this tutorial, I found it took me a fair while to be able to get any good pictures, but I ended up with a pretty spooky one which turned into a nice bit of illustration work. Oddly enough, only her hair has been added and her face defined!


Posted 57 months ago. (permalink)

catherinelove says:

I set up a black backdrop, a stool with the incense on it about 4 feet in front of the backdrop and the camera about the same distance from the stool. For the light I used one of my strobes on a floor stand. This was my first attempt and I was pleased.


Posted 57 months ago. (permalink)

CreativeMommy / SherriWhite    says:

Wow - this is very COOL
I will have to try this
Posted 57 months ago. (permalink)

knightwolf8877 says:

Check it out .. taken with a Canon PS a710is and a 30 year old flash (my mothers old flash) fired by hand




Posted 56 months ago. (permalink)

Damodharan M says:

Well these are a few of my smoke photographs shot with the nikon D70




Posted 56 months ago. (permalink)

Mikeleus says:

Check this out:


Posted 56 months ago. (permalink)

-Nicole-    says:

The instructions were really helpful for getting the settings right :-)
Posted 56 months ago. (permalink)

funghifella says:

some of my first.


Posted 56 months ago. (permalink)

toti :-) says:

how to shoot with white background like the others?
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Kaidohmaru* says:

I like to keep the original colours (even de-saturated a bit here):


Posted 56 months ago. (permalink)

the mister sam says:

mine ;-)

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jennmiller15 says:

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snb#1    says:

I won second place in the NYLO hotel's contest for artwork. I submitted my smoke pictures for their "nightlife" category. This is hanging in all their suites!
Posted 53 months ago. (permalink)

pangalactic gargleblaster and the heart of gold says:

cool! congrats, snbagley!
Posted 53 months ago. (permalink)

Casting Shadows    says:

Congrats on the second place.



You can also get some cool coloring effects without the use of PS if you put colored gels on your flashes. In the photo above I used a C.T.O. (color temperature orange) on one flash to the right and no gel on a flash to the left. I put a grid spot on the flash to the left to make it a narrow beam and shot it through the middle of the smoke. Notice that it appears bluish. I had the camera set to WB daylight which makes the orange look really orange and the flash appear slightly blue. No photoshop colors added.
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Rabinito says:

My take


Posted 53 months ago. (permalink)

c0mancheman says:

Heres on I have done not bad for a first try I think

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Posted 53 months ago. (permalink)

catherinelove says:

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vj coresnfx    says:

totally inspired thank you everyone!!!! im off to play hahaha!
Posted 51 months ago. (permalink)

fran purdy    says:

Thanks for the tutorial - here's the one photo I got out of about 50 shots!


Posted 51 months ago. (permalink)

Mr McHaddock    says:

after reading this, I had to have a go too, my nightmare was a whole bunch of small white spots on the image - in the dark of my cellar I couldn't see they were tiny pieces of ash being wafted up in to view ... my advice is - as far as possible dust free, and DON'T MOVE !!



Posted 51 months ago. (permalink)

armangi says:

2 takes



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Scotti D    says:

i like to mirror image mine the ad some color

Posted 50 months ago. (permalink)

valooran-വാളൂരാന്‍    says:

this is a wonderful group, today only i joined here..... let me post some old stuff, which was my first and last experiments with smoke

the same one thru ps

Posted 49 months ago. (permalink)

Subharnab    says:

Here are some I tried handheld in the late afternoon sunlight ...





Got a few more ,,,




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vjsaxena says:

Here is one, no post processing...
Equipment,
20D, exposure 1second
Flash- off the camera -manually fired, Red Gel
At night
And incense stick ofcourse
I took about 100shots and I got about 20 shots which or not that bad.. here is one. In future I need to try to eliminate the color from the background... i.e. only the colored smoke without post processing


Posted 49 months ago. (permalink)

straylightfascination says:

Gosh, there are some beautiful images here!!! Great tutorial, to have spawned such a host of art. I shall have to try it myself at some stage.
Posted 49 months ago. (permalink)

mr.beaver says:

This is my attempt at this technique.

I took about 50 shots, this is the one that ok.


Posted 49 months ago. (permalink)

Zeninho    says:

Please check up mines!

www.flickr.com/photos/zeninho/sets/72157605231496176/
Posted 49 months ago. (permalink)

JacksonHalePhotography.com    says:

Fun technique. Here are mine from this weekend.












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Rebecca Miller says:

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BZHGeek    says:

Here are my first attempts :




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