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Just in case anybody is still looking at this thread, this is what I got:
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just be glad i haven´t posted my reverse lens macro of a disgustingly injured toe.
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If you divide the focal length of the reversed lens into the focal length of the lens attached to the camera the answer x magnification.
If you have a tripod with a vertical uprise handle you can mount your camera and arrange it to point downwards and then focus using the handle. Use the minimum aperture for maximum depth of focus. It is also possible to buy or make a focussing rail which attaches to the tripod screw and then to the tripod mount on your camera. My Olympus E330 slr has an active screen and has a facility for zooming in which makes focus easy.
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Thank you for this great thread! here is my first:
One newbie question though. Is there something I can put on the exposed end of my lens to avoid damage to it?(the side that normally attaches to the body of the camera)
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missplumeau: you'll be wanting a lens cap for that end of the lens!
Search for "rear lens cap".
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This is a groovy tip! I had fun today:
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Here are a few of mine:
Date on a penny:
Head of a bee:
Tiny spider with fangs:
All use a 70-210 with a reversed 60mm taped to the end of it. Both lenses were focused at infinity and the 60mm aperture was wide open. The technique works well, except the whole lens stack becomes heavy and unwieldy. Focusing on something you can barely see from the other end of a heavy fragile tube that doesn't let much light through is extremely difficult - not to mention how sensitive it is to shaking!
But I just took lots of extra exposures and tried to relax and shoot at the end of an exhale. This can be lots of fun, but extension tubes are easier to use and produce similar results without the vignetting (though maybe not as magnified).
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I can recommend using fairly cheap (via eBay) old manual focus SLR lenses for this. Two Zuikos via an OM-EOS adaptor on my D30, a 135mm f2.8 and a 28mm f2.8, give about 5:1 magnification and the ability to stop down the reversed wide angle to f22 to get something like depth of field. You can either tape down the DoF preview button, or use another adaptor ring on the end to keep it stopped down. The 135 is left wide open and is used for focussing. They also happen to fit into each other sweetly at the objective ends:
No vignetting with this combo by the way. The fly is the full frame, not a crop.
Cost to me: £20 for the adaptor, as I had the lenses anyway, but you'd still get a pair like this (or similar Pentax or off-brand lenses, virtually anything can be adapted to EOS cameras) on eBay for less than the price of a 5:1 macro lens, and you get two sweet fast MF lenses to play with as well.
For positioning and focussing, I just had the camera on the tripod, using cable release and mirror lockup, pointing down at a table, and moved the fly on a piece of paper until it was in focus (they're much more cooperative if dead).
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This is what I had atttempted using Canon 20D & a Tamron lens reverse technigue that I learn here. Thanks:
Click on the pic to learn more.....
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Another Reverse Lens shot.
Thanks for sharing the knowledge.
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Reversed Nikkor50 1.8 reversed onto a Tokina 100mm Pro D macro lens. Thanks for the tip!
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Does Extension tubes for greater Depth of Field work with reversed lens as well? Anyone tryed?
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I've recently used this technique to peer way down into polished agates.
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taken with reversed lens and extension tubes
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really great trick
Olympus e-500 14-45 with the OM 50m f1.8 reversed
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I've got the 350d kit 18-55, and a 55-200mm f4.. does it make a difference which way around I put them?
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i didn't tried yet with my 50-150mm but with your 18-55 at 55mm your can get very cool macros if you get close enough to the subject. For me the distance between the subject and the lens was about 2cm.
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So which way around do I put them? lol
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all taken with a reversed nikkor 50 mm prime.
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all these shots were taken with my olympus e500 with the kit lens.
Handheld
No Reversal Ring
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This is one of my shots I did with a do-it-yourself macro lens using two 50mm lenses reversely. Notice the very small depth of field.
Camera : Canon 350D (Rebel XT)
Canon 50mm, 1.8 and Minolta 50mm 1.7 (25 years old)
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A couple of attempts
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Thanks to everyone who posted explanations of how to do this... made it much easier!
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are two that i'm happy with.
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Also handheld without any reverse rings. Taken about a year ago.. Reminds me i should try this technique again soon.
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Super Hard to get the focus right.
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here is my attempt
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Hi, New to this section and I'm also new to photography (Purchased a 20D 2 months ago and been reading since).
I had my 50mm F1.8 EF lens on the camera and took a 50mm F1.8 FD (Older canon lens from my AE-1) and reversed it by hand. Since the FD lens has a 55mm ring and the EF lens has a 52mm ring they butt together nicely. I had a problem with light so I took some black construction paper curled it around the lens to from a long, held it with a rubber band, place the other lens in reverse in the tube, rubber band the other lens and finally I took 3 Popsicle sticks and rubber band them on the lens also to keep it from shifting around
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I love it...... tried it today morning and result are not bad..... Hope to get better result next time...........
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Brown sugar:
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This one took me a while to get right
and this was one of my first handheld attempts
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ok so i ahve a canon 400d i tried this reverse lens techniqu but it didnt work.. i may b doin somethin wrong i dont know
i take of the lens n reverse it i cant attch it cause it doesnt fit. so i hold it against the body as tight as i can.. but i take the picture n its gives me 00mp n a splash of color
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Shot with a 50mm lens reverse mounted on a Nikon D70 using the Nikon BR-2A.
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I have just bought a Ricoh 105/2.8 Rikenon-P Macro
I will be using it for macro with a reversed short prime in front of it.
On the pentax K10D with 1.5 X crop factor I assume I will get a higher magnification.
Has anyone used the Ricoh macro lens?
Is it just a rebranded Kiron?
Any advice about the lens or other similar lenses is appreciated.
Ben.
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In case anyone is still reading this thread I wanna show off mine too...
These are 12:1 macros of a leaf. (ie. the height of the picture is about 1.3mm in real life).
It's done buy this chain: Camera (Nikon D70s) - 2x Teleconverter - Nikkor 300/4.5mm lens (at f/32) - Cookin adapter ring, filter holder and another adapter ring in the place where you should put the filter - Nikkor 50/1.4 lens revered (at f/1.4). they are lit from the side by an external flash that are slaving to the camera flash. ISO 200 1/350s.
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Jonas Thomén edited this topic 65 months ago.
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just to share my cheap way of doing macro too :)
i have a D50 with the kit lens and an SB600.. so all i needed was a reverse ring. of cos, because we're reversing the lens, we have to use manual mode and focusing.
the only thing to note about this setup is that you'll need to use your finger to push open the aperature lever on the kit lens for opening up the lens to its biggest aperature (i get lazy and just stick a small piece of plastic there) since it does not have a aperature ring, that will leave it bright enough for you to focus thru the viewfinder, u can use the zoom to extend the magnification too!
alil more trouble, but definately a cheap way to do it, all you need is the reversing ring (br-2a) if u already have the kit lens and flash. do drop me a msg if you need more details! great group! :)
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At what distance is it best to focus the handheld lens?
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It probably doesn't make a difference, since the effect of focusing is very minor on the rear side of the lense. Try both the closest setting and infinity and see if one works better than the other. If you don't see any difference, that's fine too.
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@Jonas Thomén: That's awesome! Brings photography to a whole new dimension! You don't have any pictures of your set-up? Guess that would be spectacular too ;-)
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Thanks Arkku, I tried it and you're right, it dodn't make much difference.
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so about 3 hours ago my (practically brand new) 52mm f/1.8 took a fatal spill onto a concrete floor. I was so upset that I honestly cried. yep, a 24 year-old guy crying over an $80 lens... Where am I going with this you may wonder?
Well I figured I could try and smoosh the peices back together and give this a try... I didn't totally follow the suggestion about not zooming with the lens on the camera body, but otherwise this thread has given me the chance to turn junk into something that's actually worth keeping around. This is the first shot I tried... Still a bit sad about the busted lens, so it's nothing spectacular -- too dark, etc... But I wanted to do something tongiht to try to reclaim my evening.
Thanks bikeracer, et al.
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@ anendel, No, sorry I don't have a picture of the set-up...
Since the camera is a part of the set-up it would require to detach the camera and take a photo faster then the speed of light... and since the mass of the camera would become more then infinite moving it faster then speed of light it would be hard compose the picture and focus.. =)
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@Jonas Thomén, maybe you had a digital point-n-shoot and could have snapped a pic of the setup ;) Then you wouldn't have to violate the laws of physics to do it :P
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fun technique. thanks :D
more.
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If anyone is still out there- this is truly a great idea! I am now playing around with my Oly E-500, 14-45 lens and an old Ricoh 50mm f1.7.
Enjoying the results! Thanks.
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i bought the BR-2A adapter and it's great, for any of you that are just looking to mess around, give that a shot. I have some macro rings by tiffen (+1, +2, +4) and they are decent too. Check my macro set, most in there are done with either a 28mm or 50mm reverse mounted on my D70.
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50mm f/1.8 reversed on a Tamron 90mm Di Macro focused at 1:1.
Yields about 1.8:1 magnification.
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DieselDan edited this topic 63 months ago.
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www.flickr.com/photos/ariil/sets/72157594387112356/
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this is mine
it is a glycerin drop, about 1-2 mm in diameter
shot on a surface of DVD disk
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Thanks for sharing this technique. Here's my attempt using the kit lens (18-55mm) on the camera and a 50mm handheld. It was hard handholding to get the focus right. I guess I was lucky with this one.
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www.porters.com -- has all kinds of gizmos for photography including rings to mount the two lenses together. Also others for mounting a lens backwards on the camera body. EDIT-- sorry, I forgot to say these are only in their catalog so you have to order one to get these adapters.
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finally got around to trying this! here's the wing of a dragonfly.
i think the real challenge for me has been finding things that look good that close up. i'm enjoying the super-shallow DOF though.
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i heard of this as "the poor man's macro"
wine charm
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I have a 70-200mm f/4L, a 30mm f/1.8, and a 12-24mm with a Rebel XTI. I have tried unsuccessfully to get a macro shot. Holding the lenses together is hard and I see nothing but black. Can anyone give me a pointer on what lenses to use? which one should be connected to the camera and which should be backwards?
thanks in advance, I can't wait to get this working.
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Pato de las Montañas edited this topic 62 months ago.
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thanks for this great reminder.. : )
i used 2 sigma lenses, a 55-200mm mounted, at 105mm, and a 28-70mm at 50mm, inverted.. i really like the results, and i love the spontaneous nature of the vignetting. the only problem i had was keeping my hands still as i shot.. thanks for reminding me this existed again!
cheers!
my brother's eye
a singaporean 5 cent coin.
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I got the adapter ring today and was so eager to try this technique out.
Can someone describe what settings the camera, 18-55 mm lens, and the 50mm are? I can't get it to focus... =/
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this is my shot using Nikkor 50mm/1.8 with reversal ring.
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fascinating stuff, thank you
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I had fun with this.
Pentax istDL with Sigma 18-55mm lens reversed and held in front
"lemon macro in black and white" by vanessapr [?]
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Great Fun - thanks for the ideas :)
Canon 18-55 w/ an old Canon FD 85 /1.8 lens reversed and taped
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Hello everybody,
I have a technical question. I used to have a great extension tube for my first film camera, a Minolta, and I really like my pictures (I wanted to say they were great, but who knows). Now I am finally buying a DSLR K-10, it has not arrived yet, but I sure want to get extension rings... how does that actually work with digital cameras? Just want to be sure there is no preference about the lens you use and basically a 50mm or a 28-50 will do - this is what I kind of understand reading the posts.
Thanx, if anybody knows the answer.
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Extension rings work just as well on a digital camera as with a film camera, but remember that on other than "full frame" cameras the sensor is smaller. It doesn't affect the magnification ratio achievable with a given lens and accessories, but you will have a smaller area to photograph at that magnification (i.e.. a full frame sensor fits a larger subject at 1:1 magnification).
The amount of extension required to reach 1:1 magnification with a given lens is the same as the focal length of the lens, i.e. you need 50mm extension to reach 1:1 with a 50mm lens. Note that the lens has zero extension when focused at infinity, but focusing closer with the lens itself will also give some amount of extension (depending on the lens). You can add the length of the extension tubes to that.
When reversing a lens in front of another lens (as discussed in this thread), you get magnification equivalent to the focal length of the lens on the camera divided by the focal length of the reversed lens, so reversing a 50mm lens in front of a 100mm lens would give you 100/50 = 2x magnification.
Hopefully this will help you to select a lens for macro use.
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I don't have an adapter so I had to just hold the lens in front for this shot:
"IMGP5242_coinmacro_reverselens" by vanessapr [?]
taken with a Pentax istDL with reversed 18-55mm Sigma lens that came with the camera
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compared to with my FujiFinepix s9600 from a similar distance
"Coin macro after white balance and lens correction (angle)" by vanessapr [?]
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Wow, this is a lot of fun. Here's my first attempt with a hand-held reverse 50mm.
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I like the technique a lot. You can get more mileage by using the reversed lens on an extension tube or even a bellows. An azalea flower:
Wider lenses reversed seem to work the best. You get more magnification because the subject occupies a smaller area of their angle of view.
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I have used this technique quite some time ago and found it to be amazing. I do not have a picture right now to share, but it is truly fun experiementing with it.
Yes, the thread is alive, and will remain alive with such fantastic topic.
Arvind
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This is a great tip. Does everyone just hold the lens? Or are there any tips on how you held it to the camera?
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I've just bought a reverse adaptor ring, inspired by this thread. Here's my first effort:
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Fun thread! You've discovered the ultra-corrected closeup lens that nearly everyone has in their bag.
Using a reversed lens in front of a normally mounted lens is quite different from just using a reversed lens with extension tubes or bellows. Either method can give high magnifications, but in many ways the two lens method is easier to work with. Reverse adaptors for this technique are simple: just a ring with threads that screw into the filter threads on both lenses. Such reversing rings are available with different thread diameters on either side, but they can be hard to find.
When you reverse a lens, it becomes a supplementary closeup lens, exactly like adding a so-called "diopter" to your lens, except in this case the new closeup lens is highly corrected, and also much higher power than you can find in simple closeup attachments.
The magnifying power of any lens can be expressed in diopters. The diopter power of a lens is given by a simple formula:
D = 1000 / FL:
Where D is the diopter power
and FL is the focal length of the lens.
A 50mm lens has a power of 20 diopters (1000 / 50.)
A 200mm lens is 5 diopters, and so on.
You can quickly calculate the actual magnification of a two-lens lashup by dividing the diopter power of the reversed lens into the diopter power of the normally mounted lens. For bikeracer's original example, a 50mm reversed in front of a 55mm:
The 55mm lens is 18.18 diopters.
The 50mm lens is 20 diopters.
20 / 18.18 = 1.1x
That's the actual image magnification on the film or digital sensor. If you reverse a 50mm lens in front of a 200mm, you'll get 4X magnification. Good luck hand holding that combo.
Problems include vignetting, as some discovered. Using faster lenses as the reversed element can reduce that, due to the larger diameter of the glass. Also, mounting the lenses close together will help, as will shooting at smaller apertures. Smaller apertures, of course, will also give you more depth of field which isn't a bad thing. The flip side is that exposures can get pretty long, and a tripod or flash becomes almost mandatory.
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Incidently, there's no reason to do the conversion to dioptres to obtain the magnification (it cancels out in the formula); 55mm / 50mm = 1.1. The dioptre is just the reciprocal of the focal length in meters.
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My attempt
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Arkku wrote: The dioptre is just the reciprocal of the focal length in meters.
Doh!
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Hy!
Why i can`t do it? What i am doing wrong?
I reversed a 50 mm f\1.8 in front of a 18- 135 mm ......and nothing.......!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I just heard of this yesterday.
Haha.
I tried it. But my nikon, just doesn't want me to experiment.
Adapter ring..? Does anyone know if there's one for a Nikon d40.
Or any other way i possibly might get this technique to work on my camera?
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So cool. At first it wasn't working for me, but you have to get realllllllllllly close. Good luck everybody."Reverse Lens Macro" by tmac0381
"Reverse Lens Macro" by tmac0381
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My attempt (at copying Arique!):
Both taken with the standard Canon kit lens (17-55mm) with a cheapie 50mm f/1.8 screwed on front.
The one above hasn't been cropped...
The one below has...
The focus is quite difficult to get right! Had to take the top one in very dim light to get the exposure correct and DOF for movement.
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what an awesome thread. really inspiring. thanks all.
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I tried this technique today.
Here are my results:
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The last photo is at the max close up whit my 135 mm lens........the other 2 are pic of the same rose but whit a 50 mm lens reversed on the 135 mm .
nice tehnique....but i am going to buy a macro lens too......
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I used my s5is zoomed to max through a 28mm lens reveersed and wide open (to f/3.5) to make this shot. of a US dime. Room lighting only, almost directly overhead.
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Does anyone know what size coupler ring I would need to do this with a D50? I tried searching for the info but am not really sure what I'm looking for. I would rather have it attached than holding it "just in case."
I guess it would need to fit the threading on both lenses so is that what I'm searching for? Gonna be hard to find for use with my Tamron since it has a huge filter size. Maybe I'll look for one to use with the kit lens since I never use the kit lens. That way I can get some use out of it. So if I do that with the D50 kit lens (18-55), would it be like 52mm to 52mm coupler extension tube I'm looking for or coupler ring? That's the problem... not sure what term to search for.
Thanks for any help!!
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To reverse one lens in front of another, one side of the couple ring needs to have filter threads to match those on one of the lenses, and the other side needs to have filter threads to match those on the other lens. That is, if you have a lens with 52mm threads and want to reverse a 49mm lens on it, you need a coupling ring with 49mm and 52mm threads (order doesn't matter, both side needs to have male threads).
Note that the step-up and step-down rings are meant for adapting a lens to accept larger (step-up) or smaller (step-down) filters. They do not work for macro coupling, because they have female threads on one side and male threads on the other.
So, to reiterate, you specifically need a macro coupling ring with male threads on both sides. Either match those to the lenses you mean to couple or get step-up rings to adapt your lenses to some larger size (e.g. I have a 62mm to 62mm macro coupling ring and step-up rings for all my lenses with threads under 62mm... similarly most of my filters are in 62mm size so I don't need separate ones for each lens).
Note that to reverse a single lens on the camera (instead of on another lens), you need a ring with filter threads on one side to match lens, and a lens mount on the other side to match the camera. This works best with all-manual lenses (e.g. old ones pre-dating autofocus and stuff) as electronics controlling the lens are not passed with the typical (cheap) reversal rings.
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I made my own coupler relatively easily with two Cokin A series adapter rings. The outer edges line up perfectly so you just need one for each of the thread sizes of the lenses you're connecting (I used a 58mm and a 52mm to connect a 50mm to a 28-105mm).
Use epoxy and glue the flat sides together - make sure you do the application when the rings are off the lenses just in case.
It might be cheaper to buy the coupler you need if its available - for me the best I could get without doing mail order and paying 20 dollars for shipping (of a 1/4 ounce item) was to buy a Nikon brand coupler which was selling for 35 dollars +.
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Nikkor AF 35mm/2 D reversed with BR2A ring, stopped down to F11. shutter 10 sec.
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Used a Promaster Spectrum 7 1:3.9 28-70mm Zoom with a reversed SMC PENTAX-FA 1:1.4 50mm
Zoom set to about 60mm, F4.0.
Lots of fun!
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And I just wanna say, a few of the ones posted aren't really macro IMO. They're just really really really vingetted.
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taken with a 100mm macro lens + macro ring + 18-55mm lens reversed
toothbrush
fly
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cjw333 edited this topic 51 months ago.
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This is fun!
Camera+18-200+50 (hand held)
The flowers are thanks to my 2 and 3 year old girls, and letting the grass grow.
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Hi....I have a trouble to get some reversing bayonet for my nikon SLR or the reversing connector for connecting 2 lenses.
I have a 50mm f1.8 a FM3a and D80
Here in Indonesia I'm getting trouble to get that kind of reversing tools..
if i have to handheld them, it became tricky
can anybody help me?
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I was playing with an old 50mm f/1.8 FD reversed lens (full manual apperture ring operation) and wondering why do we have to use 2 lens ? With only one lens reversed, it seems to work...
I am looking about information on the difference between using 2 lens or only one lens. Anybody ?
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VanDerMouche: One lens works, you typically get about life-size magnification with that. With two lenses, you can get more magnification when you have a longer lens on the camera normally and second one reversed in front of that; then you get magnification approximately equal to the longer focal length divided by the shorter (e.g. 200mm lens on the camera, reverse your 50mm in front of it and you get 200mm/50mm = 4 times magnification).
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My first attempt at reversed lens macro. Just found this discussion today, so thought I'd give it a go!
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where can I buy a ring to connect the 2 lens?
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I have a question for all the members of the group.
I have a few lenses and I am thinking about reversing them to have some kind of better magnification in a matter to try some shot of bugs and anything else that is really small.
My lenses are:
Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 USM Macro
Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8 L USM
Canon EF 24-105mm f/4 L IS USM
Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8 L IS
What do you guys think that it would a good combination for the reversed lenses technique for super macro shots.
And what magnification do you guys think i would get with it ?
I thank you in advance.
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WingMan: Theoretically you'd get up to over 8x magnification by revering one of the zooms at 24mm in front of the 70-200mm zoom at 200mm, but you'll want to try different pairings to see how things work and different levels of zoom on the reversed lens. I think the 100mm macro and the 200mm zoom at 200mm are the best bets for the lens on the camera, and any of the remaining lenses reversed (zooming controls magnification on the zooms).
Just have the longer lens on camera and shorter in front of it, magnification will be the longer focal length divided by the shorter.
Personally I find that primes tend to work better reversed than do zooms, and old manual focus primes (e.g. 50mm) can be had for peanuts.
emmepi14: eBay, search for coupling ring, reversing ring, etc, and the filter diameter you need.
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Arkku edited this topic 50 months ago.
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