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Strobist Boot Camp II, Assignment 2, discussion goes here:

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strobist is a group administrator strobist  Pro User  says:

Let's hope we can keep this thread on topic, and from devolving into an argument over which BBQ is better: Tomato based, or vinegar/pepper based.

(Because we all know it is the latter.)


And, just for convenience, here is a search for the entries.
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Ronald Suello™  Pro User  says:

hmmm, i don't see details yet in strobist.blogspot.com/....
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jewdan_jorcobs  Pro User  says:

Likewise, if he had posted it there first there would be somebody remarking how there was no discussion thread here. It's a funny world in which we live.
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tmcbroome  Pro User  says:

It looks like David is just prepping things for when he does post the new assignment.
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Paul Lender: LeftofCenterPhoto.com  Pro User  says:

Vinegar/pepper FTW!
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JuzzyD  Pro User  says:

You know, I didn't even read this thread, pointed my browser straight to the blog to get the details, but as are those above me, I'm back and I'm heartbroken.
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J_Keen says:

Why choose between the two, just combine them!

Jeff
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strobist is a group administrator strobist  Pro User  says:

It's up.
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Ronald Suello™  Pro User  says:

2 coins in the foreground, nice!!!
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strobist is a group administrator strobist  Pro User  says:

If someone actually *has* an awesome, pre-existing food shot in this group with two coins in the foreground, well, then, I guess the terrorists have already won...
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Yet another Dave  Pro User  says:

If this doesn't end with at least one haggis shot in the pool, I'll be disappointed.
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strobist is a group administrator strobist  Pro User  says:

Indeed.
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Max Barros says:

thank god this isnt last years!! i fell once... will not get caught off guard twice!

thanks David!
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David in St. Louis! says:

Niiiiiice....didnt' know what is was

Haggis-----yummmmmm, lol

www.strange-carnbike.com/strfood/haggis.jpg
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pioneerzachgillit says:

My first assignment had food in it, well kinda, it was Ramen noodles. Can I just post it for assignment 2 also (though I'm guessing David won't reward such laziness)?
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Carrillo Photo  Pro User  says:


That looks like a screengrab from Tremors...
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Yet another Dave  Pro User  says:


No, no. It's a baby Arrakian sandworm.
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kirk lau  Pro User  says:

@Pioneerzachgillit: did u happen to hold 2 coins up as well? haha

OMG.. Haggis! must draw happy face on it!
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Wink of an Eye Digital Media  Pro User  says:

Dave!
Is it possible to extend the deadline to that Sunday. My friends restaurant is closed till the end of next week (this time of year a lot of restaurants close do to vacations). Also, I work the other job. I think most could use a Sunday deadline. What say yee?
I got the vehicle to do this but not enough time!

www.flickr.com/photos/winkofaneye/3655121581/
Out of the box
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zemlinphoto.com  Pro User  says:

I would also love an extra day or two on the assignment.
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vulkanino - www.arsmaior.com says:

Can anyone participate with more than one shot?
Thanks.
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Wink of an Eye Digital Media  Pro User  says:

Here is some good links for food photo work Hope this helps a few ( plus me to)

Michael Ray

Click on link and go to the bottom...where it says NEW

the links are a little confusing as he is setting up a new blog

www.foodportfolio.com/blog/index.html#blog
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Carnival Hearts says:

Since I won't be participating, I don't feel I'm shooting myself in the foot by sharing one tip I've picked up in food photography:

It doesn't take long for freshly cooked food to lose its luster at room temperature and look dry and flat in photos. Brushing the food with glycerin will keep it looking shiny, moist, and tantalizing!
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Marlon dela Cruz  Pro User  says:

I shall bring it upon myself to shoot the best haggis shot you have seen in your life! Hehehehe!
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strobist is a group administrator strobist  Pro User  says:

Ixnay on the deadline extension, unfortunately. I am headed to Florida to visit my folks, and my time to review the assignment is already tight as it is.

(You try choosing from over 700 photos after going through them maybe a dozen times ...)

:)
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Andy Grigg says:

Can the shot contain food AND drink?

Edit: I missed the first assignment, but determined to get in on the action. I think this is a harder shot than the first though.
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MediaMoments says:

Can the shot include humans, or food only?
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Wink of an Eye Digital Media  Pro User  says:

Not to push it Dave how about a whole week?....reality set in from the wifey (you know the editior) said I have a deadline to get ready for my twins birtday part for that Saturday.

I guess Ill have to do it sooner then later.

funny how we forget the real world ....lol
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wiredfool is a group moderator wiredfool  Pro User  says:

Please, no recipes from To Serve Man.
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Wink of an Eye Digital Media  Pro User  says:

Soilent Green?

or

Recipes passed down from my ancestors"
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strobist is a group administrator strobist  Pro User  says:

re: Food and drink: Yes, that would be a natural pairing.

re: include humans: That is kinda getting away from the assignment. You are free to shoot it, of course. But that is not really a food shot, per se. See also: non "headshots" that were fantastic, but did not get consideration in the finals -- because they were not headshots...

re: Full week - Would love to, but Boot Camp will be pushing into fall as it is. Be creative. Restrictions can force that in a good way, sometimes.
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Maya Beach Photo  Pro User  says:

alrighty then,,,
i hear the gears grinding in my brain compartment!

thanks!

beach barbie-Q
Beach Barbie-Q
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wiredfool is a group moderator wiredfool  Pro User  says:

Right, I'm off to find a nice Chianti.
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basegrinder  Pro User  says:

Don't read on if you'd be offended by (legitimate) ponderings from someone who actually works in the food biz--because my thoughts will probably be totally different than how 99% of folks will approach this assignment.

my question is...

do folks here really read high end food mags? the current crop of Regular Joe food mags are allll about desaturated photos on plates in muted earth tones.

Bon Appetit, Saveur, and ESPECIALLY Cooks Illustrated are the Pop Photo of the food world. They're really just rags for shoemakers and the Joe and Glenda Yuppies of the world.

I'll be curious to see the results, if they are actually appetizing pix that people would use in a menu/website....

or pix shot in uber arsty style just because you have 5 SB900s and 6 softboxes....

btw, Micheal Hulstroms entry is the hotness IMO... but I'm not looking at the pix with casual diner (or even name-dropping restaurant whore) eyes. thats the only pic currently in the search that seems like the photographer has an above average concept about food. (no offense to the other entries)
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rondal  Pro User  says:

anyone know how to easily replicate the sweat on a glass or can of liquid?

for example, you know when you take a beer bottle or can, or even a white wine bottle out of a fridge in the summer and its REALLY hot outside you get that nice moisture bead going on the surface?

Looking to replicate in a controlled environment (ie. my apartment) and am stumped at how to do it. I tried simply leaving it to warm on the counter but no dice.
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PMLPhoto  Pro User  says:

@rondal

Try here.
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rondal  Pro User  says:

@PMLPhoto

you are my hero. lot more work than i thought it would be but looks amazing the way that person did it. thanks for the link.
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aperture-priority  Pro User  says:

One of the links DH gave suggested dulling spray followed by water spray IIRC.
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strobist is a group administrator strobist  Pro User  says:

@basegrinder-

Well, you certainly talk the talk. But do you walk the walk? After that post, you'd better bring it with your entry...
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rondal  Pro User  says:

@aperture priority. upon a recent revist to strobist i did see that, of course it was the one link i didn't look at last night when i took a look at the initial assignment.
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cake.x says:

@basegrinder: I think as the first STROBIST assignment was mostly about how you light a person no matter how beautiful or ugly the person is the second STROBIST assignment is not much different. If a cheap food is perfectly lit with some "meaning" it can beat uber-class restaurant food that is crappy lit, right?
I hope I understood you well.
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Wink of an Eye Digital Media  Pro User  says:

base?

Oh here we go

Food_this

lol
hold on while I get my oil ready in my pan


Dave I promise to let you handle it.........(grit bite)
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jamesd3rd  Pro User  says:


Or if Miller Lite tastes great or is less filling.
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jamesd3rd  Pro User  says:



the current crop of Regular Joe food mags are allll about desaturated photos on plates in muted earth tones.

Bon Appetit, Saveur, and ESPECIALLY Cooks Illustrated are the Pop Photo of the food world. They're really just rags for shoemakers and the Joe and Glenda Yuppies of the world.

Yeah and??? Forgive us lowly people for finding such a pedestrian product appealing.
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jamesd3rd  Pro User  says:



@basegrinder-

Well, you certainly talk the talk. But do you walk the walk? After that post, you'd better bring it with your entry...

For real. It had better be one that gets knocked out of the park so hard it never lands either.
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Wink of an Eye Digital Media  Pro User  says:

Is background (fill the space with other things like props) going to be a positive or negative to the food shot?

Can I show something behind as a fill or do you want "tight" shots
of the dish?
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ssbuchanan  Pro User  says:

Oh come on! Just in the last two weeks I've taken two shots I would've entered in this if it'd been two weeks earlier.

Guess I'll have to go and take another killer food shot at tonight's dinner party! :)
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CallumW says:

I'm pissed .... :o(

Read the assignment on Friday night ..... There I am at midnight cooking away and spent aaaages setting up then eating my entry before heading to bed at 4a.m.

Looking at the entries today and wodeing why some have links to 2 coins.
After re-reading the Strobist entry 5 times (I'm a bit dislexic) I eventualy found the bit about 2 coins
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Kevin Logan Photography  Pro User  says:

Lots of good entries so far. I think David is going gain 10 pounds just from reviewing them.
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Alfredk  Pro User  says:

He, he, he, I did the same thing I ate my first version and then tought about the coins, so I cooked, shot and eat again :)
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Alfredk  Pro User  says:

I don't know if anyone noticed any issues with the Flickr search, my assignment picture seems to be going in and out of the search.
I did tag it appropriately! I was alerted about this after Wink could not find my picture, although I could see it, now sometime it shows and other times it does not.
www.flickr.com/photos/jbalfred/3688837536/
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kraig7777  Pro User  says:

It's funny what caught my eye. Peanut butter and chocolate, and Cheezits.

And a lot of people have the same white rectangular dish?
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Alfredk  Pro User  says:


And a lot of people have the same white rectangular dish?

Without being racist, the amount of equal looking dishes is definitely the Chinese's fault.
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roddy rags  Pro User  says:

OK, I need some advice....
Is my idea NSFW ?

SPACE COOKIES with a dodgy looking leaf garnish.

I really want to go for this shot.
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`Mark&Manna is a group moderator `Mark&Manna  Pro User  says:

I have friends in Scotland that enjoy their haggis on a white rectangular dish....probably from China. :-)
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nmacpherson  Pro User  says:

The weekend sure was productive! The number of entries has bounced and will take time to judge....so good luck Mr Hobby!

BTW are you going to go through them on an emtpy stomach, a full stomach or after the main course. This could very seriously affect the way you see things! ;-)
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mdl01 says:

alfredk, i seem to experience the same problem, my assignment picture also goes in and out of search. I'm thinking of erasing it and resubmitting it to see if it will toggle it in place.
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NosamLuap  Pro User  says:

And mdl01 My post wasn't showing, but I think I figured why... I'd copied/pasted the tag from the website, but my PC had copied "sbc2assign2 " (Note the space at the end). The search David put above searches for "sbc2assign2", no space. If I searched with the space, it appeared. So, delete your tag, and add it again ensuring that you definitely don't have any spaces. mdl01 I suspect when you say it went in and out of the search that you were sometimes following the search link, and other times were pasting in the tag in your own search? (I was, which is what threw me at first, 'cos I could see it in my own search...)

hope that helps someone. (though I hope it doesn't help anyone with a better shot than mine, otherwise I may have ruled myself out! ;-) Meh, who am I kiddin - don't think I'm in with much chance anyway - good luck to all!)
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NosamLuap  Pro User  says:

Hmmm - nope, ignore that post above - my shot is going in and out of the search... go figure.

Can you accept links to shots here if we can't get the tags working? www.flickr.com/photos/nosamluap/3695751732/

Oddly, when it does appear, it's always in the same place - between "Medium rear" by Andriy Z and "Chocolate con Churros" by a.castell

Anyone else having this problem with shots appearing in the search?
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Dalzine  Pro User  says:

I found a great incentive for getting the shot done. I chose Smarties (English version of M&Ms) and share my living space with a chocoholic. It was either get the shot done or spend more money on a replacement subject.

BTW, they were delicious, well the few I got were :-)
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yoshi_bip_bip says:

@ NosamLuap

I experienced also some kind of appear/disappear. I put it in saturday, and it was present in the result search. But monday morning it wasn't there anymore. But I could not see it in my account neither. Than it appeared again on monday evening, in the same position in result list. And now, tuesday morning, I can't see it anymore again.

Well, as this is first time I use Flickr to put a photo on web, I think I probably did something wrong. But if more experienced users have same problem...
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clone101 says:

I was wondering if it's a problem if we want to re-shoot our submission as long as we remove the old one and submit the new one by the cut off date?
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clone101 says:

Oh yeah, another question. Do we need to go ahead and upload our two coin version as well?
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NosamLuap  Pro User  says:

I put my coin shot in my flickr stream, but not in the strobist group. I then linked to it from the description of the entered shot, so it can be seen easily. Seems like a good compromise without filling the pool with shots of coins...
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clone101 says:

Thanks, Nosam.
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Dutch Strobist  Pro User  says:

I'm in !
:D
Not sure if this is the right topic, but I would love to get some feedback from you guys.
Have a look and tell me what you think: CLICK

Thanks !
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NosamLuap  Pro User  says:

Thanks to for the suggestion - putting the SBC2ASSIGN2 tag in capitals seems to ensure it appears in the search...

Dunno why, given the link seems to search in lower case, but seems to work.
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Dutch Strobist  Pro User  says:

@
Glad it worked.

@Everyone else:
Thanks for your comments so far, and keep them coming ;)
Any suggestions are welcome
Still talking about my dinner ;)
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Steeena  Pro User  says:

i think i'm going blind, i can't find the deadline, this Saturday, right??
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MediaMoments says:

Unless I mis-read it, you won't need the coin shot unless you win, and then you'll be asked for it.

Not sure I'll have time to do a decent shoot, but ya never know...
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John Adkins II  Pro User  says:

Yep...

"Since this shot is the simplest of the four (deceptively so, some might say) the deadline for completion will be end of day, your local time, on Saturday, July 11th." =)
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Steeena  Pro User  says:

Thank you John!
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nmacpherson  Pro User  says:

It's one submission per person no?
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rondal  Pro User  says:

Sorry if this has been covered before. I tried searching through this thread but I grew impatient after 15 minutes of reading.


Question regarding adding text to our submissions; is it allowed?

I have a great slogan I'd love to include in my photo that would give it the look i'm going for but dont want to step on any toes.

I did more of a product shot of food, and wanted to do a slight twist on the products usual slogan to make it fit my photo.

Yay or Nay Professor Hobby?
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Alfredk  Pro User  says:

Yes it's supposed to be one picture only! One guy is trying to be really smart, he has about five or six in there.

I did not read anything about text not being allowed
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DefJux921 says:

i've got the same question as clone101 - "I was wondering if it's a problem if we want to re-shoot our submission as long as we remove the old one and submit the new one by the cut off date?"
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lykinsjason82 says:

I thought I did a pretty good job... Until I looked at everyone elses stuff... There are some great shots. Good luck picking the winner for this one.
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m.by  Pro User  says:

lykinsjason82: same here - quite pleased with myself until i saw all the other submissions coming in :)
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kieran_m says:

Do you reckon I'd get bonus points if I built and used a grid spot made of penne pasta for this shot? ;)

I'm actually quite tempted by this idea as making a grid has long been on my list, but not got round to getting the necessary straws.
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Bob Joziasse says:

Hi, I've a few food photo's but I can only submit one for the assignement? Should I remove the tag from the others then? Or is there another way to submit just only one?

Thx. Bob
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aperture-priority  Pro User  says:

So who has had the guts to do the optional part of the assignment and negotiated the shoot in a real restaurant. Looking at most of the entries so far, it looks like home cooking has been almost everyone's option.

I tried the "put yourself up for some major embarrassment" option yesterday and had great fun (between the nerves) doing it.
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Kimbrini  Pro User  says:

@ Kieran: You only get bonus points if you cook and butter the penne first. I think you might find your grid a bit floppy though. :)
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strobist is a group administrator strobist  Pro User  says:

@ All - One submission per person. This ain't a sweepstakes. If you reshoot, pull your old frame out.

re: Adding Text- Legal, but very risky.

re: The coin: Everyone should shoot it -- it is to verify your pic was not pre-existing. Only the winner needs to produce it, of course. Unless you win, it does not need to be submitted anywhere. PLEASE do not clutter up the submissions by tagging it in. KThxBai!
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photodailynews  Pro User  says:

Well, I'm out of the running this time. forgot the coin..
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Bob Joziasse says:

I've been to the restaurant yesterday (my time). I had two dishes to photograph and could set up all my equipment as there where no customers yet...

That;s what I like about these assignments, normally I would try this at home, but now I've got a goal to try it elsewhere en broaden my boundaries :)

@David: Right, I'll remove the tag from the other submissions. Thx

Bob
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mikkoo  Pro User  says:

I don't see my photo in the search although it's in Strobist pool and tagged with sbc2assign2. Does anyone else see it?

www.flickr.com/photos/mikkoo/3705101264/
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Kimbrini  Pro User  says:

@mikkoo
I couldn't find your submission in the pool when searching by tag. :(
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`Mark&Manna is a group moderator `Mark&Manna  Pro User  says:

I must say, my appetite has increased significantly after viewing the photos y'all are producing!
Lots of very tasty looking dishes being served up!
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Alfredk  Pro User  says:

I can't find mine either, it comes and goes! I tried everything, I have gone from Explore to oblivion!
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tonyarrj says:

Hi... there is my submission.... Any advise? Critics are welcome....

Popcorn
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Alfredk  Pro User  says:

I think I'm screwed, I found that since my assignment picture hit Explore, it will show in the Explore cluster, but no longer shows in the sbc2assign2 search!
BUMMER!
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mroadsters  Pro User  says:

I have the same problem - I posted my submission on 4 July - It showed up in the search for a while, but now several people have confirmed that id doesn't show up in searches... I have no idea what the problem could be... rather aggravating!

www.flickr.com/photos/mroadsters/3687294367/
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`Mark&Manna is a group moderator `Mark&Manna  Pro User  says:

Flickr is rather unreliable,at best.......sadly.

I would suggest that a thread be created for entries....as a safeguard .
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Alfredk  Pro User  says:

I hope David will read this posts! Yes Mark having an extra thread would assure accuracy!
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Wink of an Eye Digital Media  Pro User  says:

Ok Alfred I see your scallops and raise you 3 shrimp. LOL

Shrimp and Lemon Cured Scallops with Habernero Cream Sauce
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Alfredk  Pro User  says:

He, he, he. I just left you a comment on your shrimps :)
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Marco Veringa  Pro User  says:

tagged my image, added it to the pool, but seems it doesnt show up in the search thread, so I am worried it didnt make it in .

did i do anything wrong?

heres the image link: www.flickr.com/photos/marcoveringa/3682248640/
Cheers

Marco
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arianabauer  Pro User  says:

I submitted mine last night? Any C&C welcome.

Phad Thai from Thai House
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aperture-priority  Pro User  says:

I have noticed several have posted their images with an AdobeRGB colour space. You probably don't want to do that because anyone viewing them with Windows Internet Explorer, older versions of Firefox, Opera and a few others will not see the images as you intended. Instead they will see a washed out desaturated version.

For best results you need to convert your images to sRGB before uploading to flickr.

HTH
Bill
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arianabauer  Pro User  says:

Thanks for tip. I didn't realize that.
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aperture-priority  Pro User  says:

Lol, I didn't even realise yours was one of them! If you view the image on a Windows machine with IE you will see what I mean.
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