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Strobist Boot Camp II FLickr Help

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strobist is a group administrator strobist  Pro User  says:

This is the thread where the newbs will ask their questions about uploading/submitting/tagging/etc. issues over the course of the summer.

NEWBS: Please read through the thread before asking your question, as Q's are generally repetitive and yours may already have been answered.

VETS: Please be gentle and patient in answering their questions. If they clearly did not bother to read the thread before asking, please be creative -- and good natured -- in your inevitable insults and retorts.

(Think: What would Monty Python do?)

Thanks much for your help.
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`Mark&Manna is a group moderator `Mark&Manna  Pro User  says:

Holy hand grenade of Antioch,perhaps? :-)
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Ben J. Boyle  Pro User  says:

Would he errrrr swallow his pithy remarks?
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Sharksurfer  Pro User  says:

Already off to a great start! I LOL'd
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Ben J. Boyle  Pro User  says:

He's not the Strobist, he's a very naughty boy!
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iIntrigue - Soon to be Von Wong  Pro User  says:

What's a bootcamp?
Who's David Hobby?

=D
Posted 7 months ago. ( permalink )

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Terry Moore  Pro User  says:

Hmmmm, I think I'll watch a Monty Python movie tonight. I need to sharpen my skills. I only have a couple on DVD.
Posted 7 months ago. ( permalink )

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Alfredk  Pro User  says:

Monty Python would beat them to death with a chicken or,.... wait a minute was it a parrot?
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Max Barros says:

So when is the first assignment of boot camp II?
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iIntrigue - Soon to be Von Wong  Pro User  says:



Tomorrow! Read the strobist blog!
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J.Rodriguez  Pro User  says:

what time tomorrow?.... Oh-Five-Hundred?
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Max Barros says:

the bootcamp link dates 2006....

and the drop and give me twenty says coming june at oh dark thirty....
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Sumit Samant  Pro User  says:

I cannot find details of Bootcamp 2009 on Strobist either!
Posted 7 months ago. ( permalink )

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Scheimpflug Rules says:

This SB-24 is DEAD !!!
It has expired.
It is an ex-SB-24.

No it's not ... It's sleeping.
Posted 7 months ago. ( permalink )

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strobist is a group administrator strobist  Pro User  says:

Norwegian CTB. Lovely plumage.
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iIntrigue - Soon to be Von Wong  Pro User  says:





Last few words from yesterday's blog:

"And why am I telling you about these today? Because the Speedlight Pro Kit is part of the prize pack from the first assignment from Boot Camp II.

Which starts tomorrow."
Posted 7 months ago. ( permalink )

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Max Barros says:

so in the past each assignment lasts at least a week to give us non pro photographers time on the weekend to work on them?? or how does it work?
Posted 7 months ago. ( permalink )

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MediaMoments says:

The assignment only lasts a few minutes. (David types pretty quick.)

It's the thinking about the assignments, and shooting the assignments, and getting the results that takes a week or more.

:-)

Now, if I can get all the other projects done before the time the first assignment is due, I'll be happy. (Surprised, but happy.)

The last blog post is at 12am on Monday, which means the first assignment will be posted no earlier than 12am on Tuesday (since that's when today would be tomorrow.) But it could wait until 8am or later just for the torture factor.

urrrrgh.
Posted 7 months ago. ( permalink )

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Terry Moore  Pro User  says:

MediaMoments He was on a 10:30 AM kick there for a while. ;)
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Image-Ex  Pro User  says:

"Which great opponent of Cartisian dualism resists the reduction of physiological phenomenon, insisting there is no connection between the extended and the unextended?"
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lc8neal  Pro User  says:

What has the strobist ever done for us?
Posted 7 months ago. ( permalink )

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Wink of an Eye Digital Media  Pro User  says:

Bring out yur dead....Boom

Bring out yur dead....Boom



And Now

"for something completely different"

Strobe Boot 2
Posted 7 months ago. ( permalink )

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Tim Kamppinen says:

Some call me... Tim.
Posted 7 months ago. ( permalink )

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petepixxx says:

I dropped my camera off the parking structure...

But it's only a flesh wound!
Posted 7 months ago. ( permalink )

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defrost009 says:

we are about to have a very long thread even before the first genuine question is asked!

And people expect a newb to read it when it is full of junk!

sorry, I am just adding some more junk!
Posted 7 months ago. ( permalink )

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Alfredk  Pro User  says:

OK I ask the first question. Is it OK if I shoot at f-8......?
Posted 7 months ago. ( permalink )

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Max Barros says:

thats ok if you are shooting penguins
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Alfredk  Pro User  says:

How did you know? Is the color temperature colder where the penguins live?
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Terry Moore  Pro User  says:

Ni
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The Good Reverend Ogalthorpe [deleted] says:

sometimes i don't even put film in the camera.
Posted 7 months ago. ( permalink )

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stuff junkie says:

Doctor...
My brain hurts....!
Posted 7 months ago. ( permalink )

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Anthony Beard says:

Do these assignments require a camera? can i just draw with some crayons? i gotta go to the bathroom. Do these pants make me look fat?

I'm really excited about boot camp... can you tell? lol wee!
Posted 7 months ago. ( permalink )

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foxpony~CS Art photography  Pro User  says:

But isnt this technically ,Strobist BOOTCAMP lll
Posted 7 months ago. ( permalink )

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ChrisValitesPhoto  Pro User  says:

I just joined strobist and I'm really excited about bootcamp II.

My question: is on camera flash allowed? And can I do it with a disposable point and shoot? I tried searching, but came up with no results.
Posted 7 months ago. ( permalink )

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oriw says:

I'm skeert...
Posted 7 months ago. ( permalink )

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Alfredk  Pro User  says:


I still have not found the place where I stick the film in to my D90. And my SB800 scares me to death, everytime I use it it beeps at me.
Posted 7 months ago. ( permalink )

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rjavier_68  Pro User  says:

GEEZ.....everyone here seems to be nice people...I love it...nice start...
ON WITH THE SHOW
Posted 7 months ago. ( permalink )

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MikeNYC7 says:

But, I wasn't expecting the Spanish Inquisition.
Posted 7 months ago. ( permalink )

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Nicole Bray says:

That's because nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!
Seriously though, am I too late to join Bootcamp II?
Posted 7 months ago. ( permalink )

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dialac1 says:

LOL....this thread is already hilarious and its not even started yet...
Posted 7 months ago. ( permalink )

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petepixxx says:

And... WHAT is your name??

Just tell the noobs to start reading on page 2...
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iIntrigue - Soon to be Von Wong  Pro User  says:

Has it started has it started?
Posted 7 months ago. ( permalink )

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GreyTrilby says:

Patience m'boy!
Posted 7 months ago. ( permalink )

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Wink of an Eye Digital Media  Pro User  says:

It's going to be a long summer here at "Camp David"
Where's the bar?
Posted 7 months ago. ( permalink )

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GreyTrilby says:

I've already put my order in - 36 cans of guinness for 20 quid at tesco.com!
Posted 7 months ago. ( permalink )

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geoff.greene  Pro User  says:

Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing dSLRs is no basis for a system of Strobism. Supreme executive flash power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony.
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Will I Am Photography  Pro User  says:

Nee!
Posted 7 months ago. ( permalink )

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Andy Grigg says:

...what? Is that how DH became head of the strobist movement? If I claimed to be an expert in ligthing just because some moistened bint lobbed a speedlight at me they'd put me away!

I'm hoping for a still-life piece on how to light a shrubbery... (ni!)

Now then...stop it, it's getting far too silly.
Posted 7 months ago. ( permalink )

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Sportymonk says:

Like others, when will Boot Camp II start? How do we get on board? As mentioned above, the link to Boot Camp goes back to 2006 (The last time it was done I guess) but the Thread "Drop and give me twenty" says there will be one starting in June.

When will it start? How will we know?
Posted 7 months ago. ( permalink )

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Terry Moore  Pro User  says:

Sportymonk Ni, Ni
Posted 7 months ago. ( permalink )

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flicka97236  Pro User  says:

Every strobe is sacred.
Posted 7 months ago. ( permalink )

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Ben J. Boyle  Pro User  says:

In seriousness, BC2 starts tomorrow, June 10th. Today's www.strobist.com blog post has more info.
Posted 7 months ago. ( permalink )

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fan1080 says:

Bring him (DH) a shrubbery!

He who doeseth so will be the weinner.
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Dave Schlier  Pro User  says:

flicka97236 - if we waste a strobe, will God be quite irate?
Posted 7 months ago. ( permalink )

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Hanleyman says:

I didn't expect the Spanish Inquisition!!!
Posted 7 months ago. ( permalink )

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GreyTrilby says:

*singing*
La dee dee
One Two Three
Eric the alien bee...
Posted 7 months ago. ( permalink )

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GreyTrilby says:

I'm a 'tographer and I'm OK
I drink all night and I flash all day [refrain]

I fire my strobes
I eat my lunch
I like to shoot wild flowers
I put on women's clothing
And hang in Hobby's bars

(apologies, it's been a very, very long day and I used to have the album of MP songs!))
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vintagedesignsmith  Pro User  says:

The name of this thread needs to be changed to

"Crazy Excited Strobists Sharpen their Monty Python Swords In Eager Anticipation of Boot Camp II Flickr Help"

Us Newbs are already looking forward to jumping into the deep end of the Flickr Strobist Pool and now we have the big guys mocking us from their lounge chairs before we even know which dive we are expected to perform.

...and this thread is already so long with crazy that it will take forever to find the questions and the help. So I got a quote for you from a movie of my own choosing...

My name is Aneu B. Strobista
You killed my confidence...
Prepare to DIE...
Posted 7 months ago. ( permalink )

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GreyTrilby says:

It's just excitement travelobsessed - we'll still help, and Ctrl-F is a wonderful tool.

What's the movie btw? I can only think of the line from Red Dwarf:

"Zey say zat a life wizout pain has no meaning.
Gentlemen...
I am about to give your lifes... meaning"*

*I'm trying to type with a German accent
Posted 7 months ago. ( permalink )

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preciouskhyatt  Pro User  says:

- methinks quotes from "The Princess Bride"
Posted 7 months ago. ( permalink )

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ibelieveican says:

If you don't own any boots, can you still participate?
Posted 7 months ago. ( permalink )

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GreyTrilby says:

ahhh yes- of course (I wasn't listening for the spanish accent!
Posted 7 months ago. ( permalink )

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andrew71ca says:

What is the guide number of an unlaiden SB900?

...African or European?

Never mention Monty Python in a nerd forum! :) *ducks*
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Wink of an Eye Digital Media  Pro User  says:

Last Boot camp?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ol5Dfs7jqFI&NR=1

Sit on my flash and tell me that you love me!

www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKeQpeDkoGc


Betcha this is the last time David sets up a discussion with a lead Joke
Posted 7 months ago. ( permalink )

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aperture-priority  Pro User  says:

I think he has timed it just right, should be hitting page two just as the real questions start ;-)
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wiredfool is a group moderator wiredfool  Pro User  says:

Do wyou fwind it wisible when I mention the name of my fwiend, Bigus Lensus?
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Ben J. Boyle  Pro User  says:

Dibs on the comfy chair!
Posted 7 months ago. ( permalink )

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Shadowgolem  Pro User  says:

Lemon Curry?
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John Adkins II  Pro User  says:

I blow my photons at you
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Wink of an Eye Digital Media  Pro User  says:

You Americans are always saying

let me tell you this
and
let me tell you that

Now shut up!.... and listen to me!

Your fu**ing dead!

Canon Salmon mouuse

Ok that is it for me and Monty things

I plan on participating in the Boot 2. I officially disqualify my self from the prize!
I do not want a prize as I have enough mods!. I would like to have someone that needs the mods win because they show the right stuff.
I like to think of the Boot camp as a practicing method like doing licks on a piano or guitar or drums.... always honing your skills.

I hope some of you vets help in giving some examples as well as good advice as David asks.
Best
Wink
Posted 7 months ago. ( permalink )

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Dalzine  Pro User  says:

Is your uh, is your wife interested in... photography, ay?

Flash flash, grin grin, wink wink, nudge nudge, say no more?
Posted 7 months ago. ( permalink )

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mr-volkoff says:

Tomorrow is my first shoot and its a wedding. So I have 2 questions -
what camera to by to make nicest pictures and how much mana must I have to use pocket wizards?
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stuff junkie says:

It's the machine that goes.....ping!
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carlos.benjamin is a group moderator carlos.benjamin  Pro User  says:

Yes.
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carlos.benjamin is a group moderator carlos.benjamin  Pro User  says:

Well...... David 'Obby did nail me 'ead to a coffee table.......
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J.Rodriguez  Pro User  says:

Hey, just an idea I would like to run by everyone here.
Once we're over with Strobist Bootcamp II we aughtta put a sqaud picture together . For example, we get a military like background, send it to each other and Photoshop ourselves into the photo. something worth doing for the accomplishment and the memories.
who's in with me?
Posted 7 months ago. ( permalink )

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7tenths  Pro User  says:

Right..... I had to get up at ten o'clock at night, half an hour before I went to bed, drink a cup of sulphuric acid, work twenty-nine hours a day down' t mill and pay mill owner for permission to come to work, and when we got home, our mother and father would kill us and dance on our graves singing Halleluja.

Aye......and you try telling the young people of today that. And they won't believe you !
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dwbell says:

Tim Kamppinen says: "Some call me... Tim."

Hands down winner for me.
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Eddie Barksdale says:

Probably should have asked this ages ago, and I feel embarrassed for having to ask and admit these things, haha. Well, here it goes.

What are the limits of something being strobist? Yeah, I know it has to have off-camera flash, but, *gulp* I don't have an off-camera flash. I have a SB-400, a reflector, two hot-lamps, and no cash (zip, zero, nada. I'm eating my shoes here people.) Does it still count as "off-camera" if I were to bounce my SB-400 off a reflector like so: [link]? Would using a reflector to work the sun be ok, like so: [link]? And would I be murdered for using hot lamps, like so: [link]? I'm still going to participate, but I'd like to know that I can submit and be counted legit in all this.
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Meester Steve  Pro User  says:

You could always do, say, a 1-second exposure and pop the flash manually.

Just sayin'.
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strobist is a group administrator strobist  Pro User  says:

FWIW, this is the thread for help on the Flick / submission issues. The shooting stuff should be directed here.

-D
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Eddie Barksdale says:

Alright!
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`Mark&Manna is a group moderator `Mark&Manna  Pro User  says:

This thread is dual-purpose,actually......If you have some Monty Python jabber, this seems to be the place to share!
"Sharing" is a very Strobist thing to do!
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w88310 says:

no page two yet
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utahskierdave says:

So I posted my entry, meticulously following the rules, to the pool using the appropriate tags. My shot appeared for a few minutes and is now gone (yet it's still in the main Strobist pool). The FAQ's say you need 5 uploads before photos appear. Does this mean 5 photos contributed to the group pool or 5 uploads to my account? Thanks for any help you can provide....
Dave
Posted 7 months ago. ( permalink )

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Dave Schlier  Pro User  says:

If your shot is still in the Strobist pool, I can only assume that lots of people added to the pool after you. So it's on page 2 or 3 or 4 or 97. Happens. Lots. Oh well. (Edit- as of 2 PM, it was on page 1 three rows down).

If you are new to Flickr, you generally need to have 5 public shots in your stream so that Flickr will review your stream and determine if it is 'safe' (not NSFW). No hard and fast rule though - sometimes more, sometimes less.
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TJDPhoto [deleted] says:

Utahskierdave; I see the photo of a woman posted in the contest area. If you are referring to the photo of you (Im guessing the man with yellow hat) than that photo is missing the tag SBC2ASSIGN1 .

Once you add the tag than both will appear in the contest pool. Hope this helps.
Posted 7 months ago. ( permalink )

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utahskierdave says:

Thanks for the quick responses! My entry is back in (I am somewhat of a Luddite when it comes to posting images). TJD, it was my understanding that the photo of me should only be tagged SBC2ASSIGN1 if it is not linked in the text below my entry as I have done...is that right?
Posted 7 months ago. ( permalink )

TJDPhoto [deleted] says:

I see you are correct about single image posting. But at least your back in business.
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Wing Wong says:

Was the question about whether the 2nd photograph needing to be the same lighting ever answered? I came here looking for the answer, but didn't see it. (Sorry, 1st time bootcamp'r.)
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utahskierdave says:

Wing, The way I read it, pretty sure the second photo should be the same lighting.
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brownie114 says:

Couldn't I just make a portrait of my shrubbery? It is a very nice one by the way!
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spelunkerd says:

David, thanks again for the bone to chew on.

You mentioned this will be the only exercise this time with a live model. I'm gonna ask you to reconsider -- for many of us, live model exercises offer better practice and less boring photos later. I know, it's educational to take photos of oranges, kids dolls, reflective drinking glasses, and basketballs. But without something live in the photo, nobody wants to look at the pic....

Dave
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Wink of an Eye Digital Media  Pro User  says:

Trivia question....
I noticed that as each poster put ther shot in....there seems to be no rhyme or reason as how they are stacked in the TAG

Not alpa
Not Date
Not Name
Not megapixels.
......anyone notice this....no rhyme or reason to the list...


bueller?
Posted 6 months ago. ( permalink )

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gbchriste  Pro User  says:

Is it permissible to make an overall exposure adjustment to the raw image? I don't have an electronic flash meter so I use the DH-01 manual metering method (aka shoot hand, chimp, shoot again). It gets pretty close on the camera LCD but almost impossible to nail the exact overall exposure level for the final image without tweaking it a bit in post process. I've already submitted my shot but would like to replace it with one that has an exposure correction applied if that is within the rules.
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gbchriste  Pro User  says:

Bump - I know DH is a busy guy and is unlikely to be monitoring this thread on a daily basis. But would really like to get some read on my last question concerning permisability of basic raw image adjustments. Anyone else have an opinion?
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Murray McMaster says:

I would say you're OK. Having said that, I am not the final arbiter. That's DH's job.
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Murray McMaster says:

Come to think of it, your histogram should tell you exposure levels while in the field.
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hilary.khan says:

HI. I've actually never uploaded any pics before. I read the info that DH said. I think I was able to get it out in the general stream of things, but have no idea how to get it into the strobist pool. Supposedly there was supposed to be an option for it when I was getting the image ready, but I did not see it. Yes, I have an account or whatever you call it, and I joined the Strobist pool already. Help!
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gbchriste  Pro User  says:

- Perhaps on a typical scene with a fairly well distributed range of of dark-to-light tones. Even then though, I usually find it necessary to adjust exposure and.or contrast in the raw image, even if just by a minute amount, to transpose a technically "correct" exposure to a final image that is aesthetically what I'm looking for.

And in the case of my Boot Camp image, the tonal range of the image is not typical. The overall tonal range is predominantly toward the left side of the histogram, with only the skin tones and a few other small highlight areas contributing to the higher tones. So the histogram is very short on the right side.

As a general rule, I find the histogram on the camera to be a decent rough-order-estimate of the exposure, but I'd say I almost always have to make some minor adjustments in the raw image to get the final image I want.
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kirk lau  Pro User  says:

you see the "add to group" button on the picture of yours? just click and add to the strobist.com group. (assuming you already joined the group since u already posted message)
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