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... I knew this move would bring about something good... Cardboard boxes! Will try this once unpacked! Thank you!
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i just used a medium sized box from the new reflector i bought online. you'll have plenty of big boxes to choose from, so no creases that make cutting awkward :)
hope it works out!
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Thanks for the illustrative photos. It really helps me to visualize how I am going to make my own ring flash. I particularly liked the multiple circles of light.
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this is really great
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Do you have a one-handed backhand or a two-handed?
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thanks dan and hibiscus!
iluv im not sure what you mean by backhand, like i said im new to photography, sorry!
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awesome tutorial, I just finished mine..the results are nothing short of amazing
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iLuve.. I get it!
I like the ring of lights look.. nicely done.
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I think you win the award for the most hideous ringflash to date.
Congratulations. I should make some kind of sparkly flashing ringflash gif for this.
On the other hand, it seems to work well (grabs an Exacto knife and some cardboard, disappears)
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ahhh you saw my tennis bag! one handed :) took me awhile ahaha
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yea, i dont think i'd take it in public looking like that! i plan on getting some black tape and covering it all once im done tweaking it.
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i tried this (and completely forgot to choke the light at the top by moving the inner ring up) and came up with a light that does this:

total cost: NOTHING... went to sam's and got a HUGE cardboard box, so i can make 3 more. we had tons of foil and tissue paper (for christmas presents) laying around, and it took me about 2 hours to do this... i kept getting bored and wandered off 5-6 times.
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it looks like you got plenty of light to the bottom of the ring (which is usually the hard part). you could probably just add some cardboard and fix the ringflash you already have. you still got really nice lighting on the picture you took even though the ring may not be a perfect circle.
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ha, i love the mac n cheese man.. ultimate college diet.. Great ringflash, I'm gonna give this a shot when I get home tonight..
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is the mac and cheese optional? I don't think i have any left ;0)
great tutorial! Thanks!
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Love the goose flying overhead in the full head shot.
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yes the mac and cheese (where all creativity comes from) is required :)
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dude..thats so ghetto..but works so awesome!
i love it
i looked at the sample pix like "no way dude!" hahaha
good stuff..i'll get my son to help me make one..thanks for the detailed steps
(will substitute ramens for mac n cheese)
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Great idea on the circles! but how did you ever get to experiment on yourself for those hours?? I built mine a different way. i tested it on myself on two separate nights and both nights i got headaches =(
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I might try this with corrugated plastic..
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wow, excellent job. i want to make one in the next couple weeks.
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Sean, I want to see it when its done if you do! like i said, theres a million better ways to do it than mine, please innovate!
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I have an old black portfolio case with broken catches. I was going to try Bert's Striplights with it, but as I just got 2 of the 001B nano stands and have the same boxes, I'll use them. It'll be at least the 2nd week of Jan before I get to it. Working all through new years, then it's my birthday!
I'll be sure to record all of these processes.. If I ever do complete a book on OCF (off camera flash) I'd have them for that!
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I love this scrap box engineering.
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Love it - great results too.
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Thank you. If anyone made a "scrap box ringlight" (good name rabbit) post some examples :)
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We don't have a template that takes into account inverse square law by now?
Sheesh.
:D
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I made one!!!



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Is there an optimum size for making a ringlight (the one that Samuel Potter has made appears to make quite small catchlights in comparison to what i've seen of pro ringlights)
I wonder if it's better to make it bigger or smaller? if it was bigger would that reduce the effect of the light?
I have a shoot coming up that might look great with a ringlight so i'm going to try and make one in the next week.
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this shot:

was when i started getting a hankering for the light quality of a ring flash. I took it in a dressing room when I was on tour, one of the other guys in the band put his head up against one of those mirrors with light bulbs all the way around it.
the look is just beautiful!
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I used three SB-600's set up in a triangle and shot through the center of them to give me a ringlight effect. I erased to of the 3 highlights in the eyes in PS.
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Sorry, wasn't trying to rob the thread, just showing another way to get a similar effect. I need to get off my butt and make one of those!
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That's awesome!
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Why'd you take out the highlights Hildozin...were they ugly? I think it would look somewhat cool...but I could be wrong...do you have a before shot to show us the "triangle" effect in the eyes?
Fargo
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with some diffuser material, the three flash thing might be soft enough not to look so much like three dots
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Awesome!! Gonna have to try this myself.
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OK - made one tonight but i'm not ENTIRELY convinced it's finished. i think the bottom of it is still too bright compared to the top, even though i've layered it 6x with diffusing paper.
guess i'll add more. I think just for stability I might add a few layers to the whole thing, and then a more solid back (plain cardboard is bending a little too much for my liking) before i double gaffa tape and paint it black (the silver cardboard i used was white on the outside)
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sam, the picture's lighting looks great; as far as the ring goes, thats odd that it got more light at the bottom than top. If I had any loss in any of my pictures it would always be at the bottom of the ring. im not ringlight construction specialists, so i cant recommend any changes right now, maybe if i saw some pics of the setup.
hild, that shot looks great man, dont worry about 'robbing the thread' i didnt put this up for the glory, but to try to give back to the strobist community because ive learned so much since ive been in this group and i dont have much else to offer
tanya, love your pictures :)
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sam - the reason there's more light in the bottom is that's where the flash comes in, so as the distance from the flash increases the light decreases. So the light isn't as even as it could be because of that.
but the picture above doesn't seem to be lit from underneath though so maybe it doesn't matter all that much (the catchlight is a little weird though)
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I went ahead and made another, thanks for another night on the work table ;)



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Wicked! I may try to make one now...
That catch light is WICKED!
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here's another test tonight:

i love the ethereal glow you can get because there are no shadows
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has anyone ever tried adapting their built in on camera flash for this? I have a 40d which still has an oncam flash. maybe I will tinker tonight. I should clean my computer and give her a tune up but this is sooooo much more fun sounding.
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I think it would be cool for really close-up work but I can tell you using my one-sb800 setup outside would probably be null. These designs, though neat as hell, are really inefficient in getting light from the source to the subject. I've made two of these and am considering the Alien Bee ringlight now that I feel justified that I'd use it.
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rawcapture: You'll enjoy it. I've made several faux ringlights with SB-800s, and the ABR800 kicks some serious butt.
But I generally use it as a monolight with an MU-30 on it. Makes a very nice softbox that way.
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iaincaradoc,
Is it versatile outside? This is primarily where I see myself using it
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raw, nice shots you got there! i'll do some outdoor testing for ya tomorrow if its not raining still. I did a few before that worked pretty well.
sam, did you edit that at all? it looks sweet, and with a nice backdrop be even better
to everyone else: I updated the tutorial with new pics, and shots of the design that doesn't look quite as trashy!
Before I had the cardboard holes just as an attachment, but i liked it so much i went ahead and taped it down semi-permanently.
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fstops and shutter speeds [deleted] says:
samuel,
thanks, here's one more:

set-up here: www.flickr.com/photos/rawcapture/2177408116/
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thats sweet, never thought of using a ringlight as a fill. the reflection on the sunglasses looks good too
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Very cool, must try this today!
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Gotta love Ghetto!
Thank goodness I haven't made my cardboard run yet...
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I just finished making a ringflash following this tutorial!
Here is the ringflash itself:



And here are the amazing results:

This one has the attachment with the 9 circles cut out:

Self portrait:
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I buildt mine today. First shoot.
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i did too!
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all impressive
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The lighting is excellent in all of them. I think a bigger one would be ideal but the results are still very good.
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you guys rock, keep up the stellar results!
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I made one that's very similar, but with one modification - a mirror.
Did anyone ever have one of the plastic periscope toys where it was basically a long plastic tube with two 45 degree slanted mirrors in it? Well, I applied the same principle to the ring flash - at the 90 degree turn going down into the ring, I glued a mirror I took out of a makeup kit. This way, absolutely no light is lost because 1) it's a mirror, not tin foil, and 2) it's flat and points the light in only one direction, again unlike tinfoil, which krinkles.
It's half finished, and doesn't have the diffusion paper on the front, but I'll post photos when it's all done.
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I made one as well. Thanks for the inspiration,
You can see the final product here

Read how I made it here
flickr.com/photos/foshydog/2198284995/
You can see the setup for this shoot here
www.flickr.com/photos/foshydog/2198285259/
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mirror?This sounds interesting....diagram please!!
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Hi, here's another version of a DIY Ringflash based on the Strobist Tutorial by Sam Potter. It also features an optional add on removable multiple hole front ringplate, it's also bigger than the original one shown in Sam's Tutorial.
The next one or the Mk:2 version has had a few extra mods done. In fact,, the white front diffuser is now made from opaque iron on heat shrink film and is drum tight. In addition, the angle of the silver foil reflector has now been altered. This is because I have found that to get an even spread of light to travel from the top to the bottom of the ringflash you must have the Initial Reflector angle correct. This new angle helps to bend the light evenly down and all the way around the Ring, so getting this Angle correct right from the start is very important!
Rgds, TB (UK)






Here are some early sample shots taken using it both outside and inside with vastly different settings.



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Hey I made my very own ring light. I didnt exactly follow the instructions here.... sort of improvised.... made it out of part of an old bird feeder. just took the first test shots.... so excited!!! can't stand to wait 'till I get some good shots to post.... anyway better shots to come (I hope)!!!
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turn the flash on manual and turning up the exposure a bit should help!
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Hi Sam, new here. Just wan to ask, Is there a recomended FOV or subject to light distance for using the ring flash? I love using my 100 macro and I want to shoot perhaps head and shoulders and approximately any subject of that size. by the way, should the lens barrel pocked out of the ring, will it compromise the quality even with lens hood. I have two weeks vacation, I have to make me one. Thanks.
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you can easily shoot head and shoulders with good light. ive even gotten good light of an entire person, but then it doesn't have as much of the wrap-around lighting effect, instead is just regular diffused light. but you'll get different lighting effects w/ a wideangle and a telephoto. ive never tried it as high as 100 so i cant say, but im sure you'll be able to get some sweet close-up eye shots w/ that kinda of zoom w/ macro.
as far as the lens barrel poking out of the ring, you can do it either way. my last adjustment was making the ringlight fit closer to the camera so the lens can get past the ring, and it seems to help, but i cant say for sure. the lens hood im not sure about either, never tried it, but im guessing that it could block light if it extends into the ringflash area. Hope that answers your questions, good luck on making it!
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I finished my ringflash. A few comments on the product:
1 – Making it ultra light shortchanges its durability. The shell of mine is entirely thin cardboard (the kind reams of letterhead come in). It's nice and light so it can hang off my flash with no ill effects, but it looks like it could fall apart at any moment. The hardest part for me was the diffusion material. I used tissue paper – this stuff is hard to stretch tight and tears very easily, but it’s the best thing I could think of to allow as much light through as possible.
I also went with cardboard instead of the stainless steel Tejada bowl idea because I wanted to be able to zoom in and out or focus while the ringlight was on there. You can’t do that with a bowl over your lens, which is what I didn’t like about that design. Would have been nice to have that kind of durability though.
2 – Power. I wanted something that could be E-TTL, so I wanted it to be one flash and it had to be in the hot shoe. The design works, but I was disappointed in the power. Even on full power, I can’t properly expose a subject more than 5 feet away. Is this a problem? Will I ever use the ringflash farther away than 5 feet? Do any of you?
3 – Distance/Power. Because of comment 2, you have to get up close. Wide angle lenses, up close, do not look good on people (unless you’re going for that cone head look). I have a 30D, so there’s a crop factor with my 24-70 2.8. Would it look much better on a full frame sensor?
So if I can’t use it far away, and it doesn’t look good up close, and it’ll fall apart after a few uses because of #1, will I ever use it?
What are your thoughts on this? I'd really appreciate comments.
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I haven't seen too many examples of a ringlight by itself used to light subjects further than chest and up, keep in mind the original use of a ringlight was for macro photography. My guess would be that it could be used as a fill light when working with other strobes.
to make it more durable I would just duct tape on another layer of cardboard to make it thicker.
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Sorry, but that thinglooks U-G-L-Y. But works great :) id use it any day :)
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great tutorial!
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So I made another ringflash, and this one is POWERFUL!!
1/8 power, 1/200 f/8 400ISO on a 85mm lens in a dark room(you can tell by how huge my pupils are) plus I darkened the photo in PS3..

I'll put up some pics of the device when i'm finished tweaking the diffusion.
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i made one!

thanks a lot for the tutorial :D
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Dude, you rock. I love your unfinished dinner in the first pic. Kinda like "Yeah, sorry, gotta make a ring flash really quick, will grab the last 2 bites later." Brilliant.
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tim, looks good to me man, I dont think a rebuild is necessary! but if you are thinking about making another one i'd wait a few days, because I'll be putting up another ringflash design that works really well.
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Im waiting for your new design too Samuel Potter :)
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Samuel Potter says:
So I made another ringflash, and this one is POWERFUL!!
but you don't show your new design... can we see?
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Great looking results..
But most importantly, the first shot involving mac and cheese is the true key to success...
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Yeah can we see a shot of you in a bathtub full of Mac&Cheese?
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I really like the results. I have to make one of these.
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I didnt want to post the new ringlight till I had enough time to test it out. I finished the design just yesterday, so i'll put some pics of it tonight when I get home (about 4-5 hours from now). it's a lot like Tanya's and its designed for a wireless setup, its not right on the hotshoe like the last design. sorry for the hype post earlier :/
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OK! so I got a bunch of pictures I'm putting up because I know that when I was looking for a ringlight to make I wanted to see how it did outside, close-up, ring quality, full body(if possible), etc... FYI I'm doing this reallllly fast because I'm sleepy and have an essay to write, so if you need elaboration please ask and I can answer tomorrow! some of the elite strobist might say "this newbie tool is putting up tons of lame ringlight pictures because he wants attention" just to answer that statement, no i'll admit that you guys can ALL do these shots better than I can since I'm new to strobist and will admit I havent figured everything out yet w/ photography. None of these have sweet backdrops or multi flash setups (yet) but at least you'll see how the ringlight performs on its own. all these shots were taken at 250-500 ISO, 1/200 f/4-f/11 and flash pwr 1/16-1/4 max. check photo properties if you're wondering what the exact settings was on that shot. the only two photos I did any significant editing on was the 2 knife photos I was toying w/ b&w and aged effect.
Here's the only photo I have of the ringlight before I closed it up. ignore the tupperware in the middle(the idea behind that was to use this same flash as a beauty dish too), and it also needs the extra cardboard ring in the center that the lens goes through.
The MAIN thing you should notice is that the edges have a curve to them made w/ the foil tape, to help reflect the light out. but there is no curve on the center hole that the lens goes thru, so more light can slip by and get to the back. (hope that makes sense)

NOW Here's some of the closed up shots. The MAIN thing with this is to notice there is a V shape in the center hole to help send the light down the sides. in the second shot notice the size of the flash, i'll give dimensions later. pardon the poor pics it's 1:25am.


FIRST I'll be putting up pictures w/ the ringlight On Top of the camera w/ no wireless triggering (because i just got my ebay stuff a week ago and didnt know how to use it yet!!)







NOW with the wireless trigger (that i got working w/ my 580EXII yesterday), shooting thru the ringlight.

I hope this isnt TOTAL Overkill. more so I hope this helps. any questions please feel free to ask. post examples if you make one!
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Thanks to Samuel and Tanya for the inspiration. I spent my Sunday afternoon gathering the necessary supplies and then hunkered down for a few hours of cutting, pasting, taping, and periodically cursing. Still for 100 Swedish kronor (15 bucks), it's a decent start, hopefully.
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I also jumped on the ringflash bandwagon and made one out of a take-out container, butter container, and tons of ducktape and elmer's :)


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i made one this weekend as well
here are some images i ended up with
good stuff for sure.
thanks so much for the tutorial!!!


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This is excellent tutorial, will be saving me few pounds. Thanks
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My ring light made with an old cake pan:

I use a TTL cord and mount it on a stand if I need to.
A shot with it:

Read more about it here
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I"m not sure if i did this right! But anyway, I just finished making my ring flash , super excited but I noticed that its more heavy bright at the top of the ring catchlight than at the bottom, I was actually very close to the subject with 50 mm lens. Any advice would be appreciated Thanks so much!
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I made mine inspired by Tanya's (thank you!).
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This thread is pure genius! Thank you Samuel Potter et al for the terrific inspiration.
I have a few questions:
1. Would it help if the interior base of the ringflash were rounded? I see in Sam's revision, he curved the tinfoil at the joint where the base and side meet. It makes sense that some curve might help push the light further forward, no?
2. When using the multiple hole ringplate, what was the reason for leaving the bottom holes non-diffused? To expose more light towards the bottom of the subject? (Assuming the light that reaches the bottom is the least powerful?)
3. Clearly many of these units don't utilize the multiple hole ringplate, and diffusion material is all that is necessary, for one effect. What effect does the multiple hole ringplate provide, apart from the obvious catchlight in the eye?
4. Some images have the characteristic ringlight "halo" effect while others do not. How can you make sure you get the "halo" effect? Make sure the subject is relatively close to some background?
Thanks, again, everyone!
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Here is one of my Newest Tests with my Flippin cool Homemade ring flash! I am so excited right now!
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@Lindsey, I think your ringlight shots look great! If you want to play more with the catchlight try using vellum or any diffusion material to break it up, or put a V shape on the center circle that the lens goes through right where the flash comes into the ring to help send the light down the sides (works really well). If that doesnt make sense look at my latest ringlight design and it you'll know what I'm talking about.
@strobe_this, 1. I did it exactly for the reason you said, because it makes more sense that it would direct light out of the ring. just make sure you dont curve it on the center circle that goes around the lens because you want the light to get past to the back.
2.yes i left off the diffusion at the bottom to allow more light, and at the top I layered it differently as well to try to compensate.
3. the holes are simply for the catchlight and nothing else. if anything it will make your ringlight less powerful. I'd make it interchangeable in case you need more power for a certain situation.
4. you can get a halo from the subject being close and far from the backdrop. I had some examples up but I took them off because I didnt care much for the content of what the pictures were of. I'd just experiment on a friend when you do get one made.
hope that helps.
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Thank you so much Samuel! for my diffusion material I used about 5 layers of Wax paper! i think I will try and cut out a couple layers of the paper from the bottom area and see what happens! OOH, you're such a thinker! Thanks! :)
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"hope that helps"
You answered every question. Great help! Thank you.
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Awesome work, unbelievable stuff.
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Thanks for the tutorial!
This is what I got after putting mine together:
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Thanks for the ideas. Made mine and I am addicted
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Oh, and this is what mine looked like when I was finished building it:
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Works a treat. I just need to get the freaking superglue out of my carpet now!
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heres my go at it
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Ok - so thanks a lot to everyone who posted on here, i finally got round to making my own... sorry dont have any photos, but it is basically a mix between the OP's version and the angled splitter thing. I didnt have foil, so doubled up some plain white paper to act as the reflective material. Obviously not as efficient as foil, but it still works... i made a spot overlay for it out of Foam Board (would recommend using it as it is very easy to cut and is completely light sealing as well as being stronger and more resistant to tearing than card). The spots are too close together for any real use (the below photo is at 10mm and the ring is still small!) at the normal portrait mm's... on to making a second one which is bigger and better (and with foil)
Anyway - thanks again everyone who posted, i learnt a lot here. Just getting into the whole strobist thing (joined today)...
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