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strobist is a group administrator strobist  Pro User  says:

This one ought to be interesting...
Posted at 9:34PM, 13 August 2007 PDT ( permalink )

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aigi is a cowboy killer says:

My first try. I think I have to find a larger background. That would make it a lot easier to work. And maybe another model, too ;-)

Ich mit Hut
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josef_moffett says:

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Dark, reasonably polished wood really is excellent for the highlight. Anyway, definitely starting to get the hang of it - although, I did need to add a reflector (white typing paper) to help the shadows camera left. I'm not sure why, but despite the umbrella and the camera touching and being really close to the model the left side was quite a lot darker than I was happy with.

Here's the same, but shot in portrait. I prefer the landscape because the halo is more "round" than in the portrait where it bleeds off the edges too much.
DSC_2183.JPG
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jwielf  Pro User  says:

#3 Had lots of "moments" with the baby, but hard to keep her still long enought to place the highlight where I needed it.

DSC_2073
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jeffegg2  Pro User  says:

final

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bLVd [deleted] says:

Nixon1
I'm having a hard time finding dark, semi-reflective surfaces to use as a background. I had to take off a cupboard door, but it was too small to use with a full-sized person... so, I used little bobble head Richard Nixon. I found with a smaller subject like this, you can get away with just a diffuser (the one that comes with the SB800), making it much easier to move around the flash, model and camera to see how the different lighting angles work.

Can't wait to blind the girlfriend over the weekend trying to get this down.
Posted 23 months ago. ( permalink )

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somasf415 says:

Well getting close to what I want. I need to tighten in the halo though it is pretty big, Reflecting into umbrella. Do I need to move it closer to the wall to tighten up the halo?

umbrellaspecular-1
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bLVd [deleted] says:

Somas, I'm wondering the same thing. My thinking is that moving the light away from the wall would "shrink" or tighten up the halo. Can anyone confirm or disconfirm that suspicion?
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I Love Holga ('SLIM')  Pro User  says:

I think it works opposite. If you move the flash closer to the wall it increase in strength thus enlarging the specular area. Move away it will decrease in flash strength. How ever moving away you can increase flash strength & vise versa. Correct me if I'm wrong... I will try it later.
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slowmanluis  Pro User  says:

I've got the concept which I tried on a table. Unfortunately I can't turn the table on its side to do a portrait so I will have to find another one somewhere. I made some notes on it that may be helpful.

Specular Lighting
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will_hl  Pro User  says:

Hi guys,

I thought I'd post a kinda setup shot to try and help people understand how to move the highlight relative to the subject. In all these shots the flash is located in the same spot and I have just moved the camera, hopefully including the flash in each picture will help you understand how it works. I have used a hard light to help show the light direction and how it is different to the reflection angle. It is a bit quick and nasty but I hope it helps!

Specular Highlight Demonstration
Posted 23 months ago. ( permalink )

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CDB Photo says:

I had some time this morning to have a crack at this. Once I worked out the appropriate distance to be away from the wall, this just worked really easily. Thanks *again* David for these simple but effective lighting techniques.

Cam Portrait
Posted 23 months ago. ( permalink )

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extraFunky  Pro User  says:

Here's what I got. Getting the correct umbrella angle is real tricky.

this ish is good
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AndrewJ.D.  Pro User  says:

A simple shot using a black back. I've found it to be a pretty useful trick to have on hand, and good for adding a little emphasis.



And another from the same series. The above is the final I've submitted, however.


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Sandosan says:

It took me a while to get a suitable background, but finally realised I had a sheet of masonite in my shed. It isn't very reflective but I think it gives the correct effect. Here's my final effort. This is the first time I've tried to put a photo here, so fingers crossed...
Searching 1
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dcumminsusa  Pro User  says:

I can't convince the girlfriend to sit in for these assignments, so I found another willing model:

Lighting 102: Specular Portrait -- Megatron's Dream
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yabba61 says:

This is my go at Lighting 102 Assignment: Umbrella Specular Portrait

Lighting 102 Assignment: Umbrella Specular Portrait

Lighting 102 Assignment: Umbrella Specular Portrait

Regards
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miguel76 says:

This is my shot for the umbrella specular assignment. I had to take apart my bed in order to use the platform of my bed as the backdrop for the picture.

IMG_28366x4
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DouaLiege says:

First attempt ... the only large reflective surface I could find home was the top of my dining table ... it weights a mere 200 lbs ... made of teak wood from Zimbabwe ... setup shoot in my gallery




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I Love Holga ('SLIM')  Pro User  says:

Yet another attempt...


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ecotone7 says:

A shot from my first session working on this assignment. This simple technique can be varied (and, I discovered, screwed up :-) in many ways. fascinating.

UmbrellaSpecularPortrait
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aparmley  Pro User  says:

I realize I'm pushing the boundary on how far to take this assignment. I see a lot of people getting shots very similar in lighting to those of DH, which is awesome, but I'm just taking it a little further in this image and using it slightly for its purpose and also to sort of form a sort of balancing object in my frame. Does it work is it a bad idea? TYIA

DSC_4177-Lr
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Emergenic  Pro User  says:

Ok Last Attempt: like others have said this is a very simple yet very Dynamic technique.

Who knew you could do so much with just a strobe & a umbrella...(-;

Tried to spread the spectural light accross the shoulders on this one:

L102 Specular - Test 3
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wogo says:

First try:

Specular Umbrella

I figured I wouldn't bother the wife while I figured out how this thing worked... Hopefully the setup will go smoother next time.

I'm thinking the background may be too shiny -- you can clearly see the shape of the umbrella... Is there any way to fix that? Or do I need to find a less-reflective background...
Posted 23 months ago. ( permalink )

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itsjustanalias  Pro User  says:

Another assignment from which I learned lots: for a start I learned that we don't have nearly enough glossy surfaces in the house! Once the requisite background was found it was a matter of playing around with exact distances and angle to get the feathered light I wanted.

This one is, I think, going to be the final one... I'll just let it stew for a while
Strobism again
And of course the model had to be 'paid'
Strobism and a pie!
Posted 23 months ago. ( permalink )

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Swiss Bones Strobist says:

This was going to be my final one but I had to use a second strobe to separate the left side from the background.

katy 2nd

Edit: As I cheated and used a second strobe.
Cheers John, Looks like i'll have to do a re-shoot :)
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I Love Holga ('SLIM')  Pro User  says:

@swissbones One strobe bro
Posted 23 months ago. ( permalink )

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Titus Grown says:

Here's a first cut. The granite surface isn't quite as specular as I'd hoped, so I pulled the light out a bit and came up with these. I'll have to think a bit about what worked and what didn't and have another go if I can.




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shuttermonkey says:

Note to self: Umbrellas do not fall into the expensive category!!!

The fact that I struggled through another week of exercises with my flash firing through a sheet of thin paper to soften the light has to now reflect on my laziness in not ordering one.

Next weekend I'll try again (possibly this time with an umbrella) and try to submit a softer highlight than what I have below. Hopefully the subject will still be as willing to play along.

I found the concept to be more difficult to implement than I thought it would be given David's post said it was easy! That said, I did have a lot of fun with this, got some nice pics and eventually managed to get the hang of this specular thing...

Paper Specular Portrait
Posted 23 months ago. ( permalink )

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Stephen Crowers  Pro User  says:

OK, here's my first real attempt at the assignment. I did a little softening on her face (and a little healing brush too - she's fifteen), but otherwise only resize and unsharp mask as PP.

Kat_StrobistAssign_flckr

I'm not sure the specular is as tight as I might want it - I'll have to play around a bit more before I decide if this'll be my "final".
setup shot is here.

Steve
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Mauronic  Pro User  says:

Man this is a tough one. The wife was not around so I had to bribe my kids with ice cream to work with me for more than 10 minutes. Here's my first go at it. I'm partial to #2 because of the pose. I'd appreciate any feedback.

1)

IMG_2937

2)

IMG_2981

3)

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goldenblatt says:

there is my first attempt. It is not the final one, as I have an idea rounding in my mind

L102 Assigment 2: primer intento

regards
Posted 23 months ago. ( permalink )

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Andreas Reinhold  Pro User  says:


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hawkryger (www.augustkryger.com)  Pro User  says:

For some reason my final won't show up with the others when you click the strobist link to the final edits. All my tags are in place, anyone know what's wrong?
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hawkryger (www.augustkryger.com)  Pro User  says:

BTW, here's my final edit, lit with a single strobe/umbrella setup
Ruby red.
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miguel76 says:

second try, this time with better focus.

IMG_31566x4
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kevinv033™  Pro User  says:

Bill - light test
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Dave Schlier  Pro User  says:

I finally shook some time loose. My first attempt:
Piano man

Set up is here, such as it is...
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hawkryger (www.augustkryger.com)  Pro User  says:

I figured it out...was a problem with Flickr. Now it's on the list of final edits.
Posted 23 months ago. ( permalink )

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ironlungparis  Pro User  says:

Ya think maybe I incorporated the assignment sample photo perhaps a bit too much? :)

Eli Specular Highlight

580ex at 1/4 power shot thru an umbrella positioned camera left and above...and a model with a great sense of humor.
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I Love Holga ('SLIM')  Pro User  says:

hmmm.... never seen a male pose like this before... IMO it works better with females.
Posted 23 months ago. ( permalink )

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ironlungparis  Pro User  says:

John, I have to agree with you there.

Still, it was good practice on shooting a picture while laughing uproariously....
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BBurnie82 says:

I gave it another go and here is what I got. This is my final (for now):
Self Portrait 3
I do have a question since this is my first assignment. I've tagged my images with the appropriate tags but I don't see them showing up with the others when I follow the link from Strobist.com. Can Anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong?
Also, here is my setup:
Setup for Self Portrait
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Sandosan says:

I thought I would run through the thought processes I went through to come up with my final image. It took me a lot longer than it appears from the text, mainly in finding the correct background. Once I had that it flowed quite well.
Specular Umbrella Thought Process

My first challenge was to find a suitable background in a house that was pretty well all light colours.
Tried our piano, but that was far too reflective for my liking.
Eventually realised I had a sheet of Masonite (hardboard) in my shed so thought I would try that.
I tried a couple of test shots through an umbrella and it looked like a goer so here's my steps.
1. I got the angles, size and brightness of reflection roughly correct by adjusting the flash and camera position. Approximately 1.5m from background to umbrella. Looked OK with flash at 1/4 power and camera on 1/125 @ f/6.7.
2. Adjusted camera position to get the reflection in the correct position for my preferred composition.
3. I then brought the model into play. The model was about 1.3m from the background. I adjusted the camera distance from the model to get the halo at the correct size. I then added a white board on camera right to reflect some light into the shadow side.
The lighting was good from the start so it was then a matter of getting the correct pose.
I daren't impose on my wife to sit around for the set up shots in addition to the actual photos, so I've used a much more passive substitute.
Here's my final result:
Searching 1
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I Love Holga ('SLIM')  Pro User  says:

@ironlungparis ... I'm not saying I didn't roar with laughter because I did... Oddly enough I still find myself eeking and laughing at the same time.

:-)
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SoulJah  Pro User  says:

LufBru Comittee and Volunteers

Guys, does this count?
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John Leonard  Pro User  says:

I think a smoother more consistent surface would help me out. All I have is my bedroom wall which has a faux gold finish ragged onto it. But here is my final. Well at least for tonight!

DSC_2352

Thanks to the wife for helping me out...
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treeffe2000 says:

This is my final shot for the assignment,
My wife has been so kind to let me have a little photo session with her...

One SB600 bounced into a white reflective umbrella on camera left (30° over the suject) triggered by CLS (TTL +1,3)

I've tried to position the reflection on background (a wooden ancient furniture about one metere behind the subject) on the unlighted side of the face to get the "Chiaroscuro effect"

No other light modifier, In Postprocessing I've only sharpened the hair and raised 2/3 EV of exposure...

I don't know if it fits the assignment, but I'm pretty satisfied with this one.

Patient model for Strobist assignment
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RaynLisa  Pro User  says:

I had a ton of fun on my very first Strobist project. Here's my final...

Month 22 Specular

I used a 24" softbox triggered via PC sync about 24 inches in front of her. I was using the ol' Ghetto eBay Triggers (c/o Duncan Babbage) but I am still trying to find the magic channels.

This toddler gives me about 8 shots worth and they ALL have to trigger correctly! Needless to say, saving for the PW Plus IIs.
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outtram  Pro User  says:

Self portrait in my shed with some old cupboards make me an offer on them :)


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www.lurker.smugmug.com says:

ermm... sorry if this is a stupid question, but does the photo submitted have to be taken after the 102 assignment is announced?
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savannahmd says:

@ironlungparis
I can't help but laugh at the thought of the look on the wife's face when walking into this scenerio!
Savannah
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..D².. says:

Hi All,

this is my first shot for Lighting102 assigments.
Someone says he looks like a saint :)
Do you think the halo is too much?



bye
D2
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G0Da  Pro User  says:

Here is my try, let me know what you think.

Strobist 2
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Ken Crites says:

Hello all,

Here is my attempt. I got 2 shots off before my son decided that he was done, so I didn't get the chance to drop the power on the flash. Am I heading in the right direction here?

Ken

ken_crites-9403
Posted 23 months ago. ( permalink )

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fstop studios says:

Shelley

Here's my first attempt. Tough getting the specular reflection in the right place, but got it after a while.
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tylerRbrown says:



I got the reflection in the right spot, I think? I did it before I plopped my subject down in the hot seat (teens with ADHD won't sit around while you spend 20 minutes moving things about) but my question is, did I get enough light on my subject's face?
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kreego  Pro User  says:

Someday Warrior

Warrior Princess

There's nary a dark, reflective background to be found around here, so I went for a a roll of something called "toile cirée" in France - waxed canvas? It looks kind of suspicious, but hey, at least its pretty shiny!

And the setup:

helmet-IMG_7224

Fellow strobist rmphotog pointed out that normally, diffusion screens go *between* the light source and the subject. OK, good point, but I was at a loss to get enough light on the helmet and the arms, so i had no choice but to enlist the help of the screen.

Probably I should have dropped the umbrella a tad down, which would have helped.... At any rate, I was amazed how much light spills sideways and behind the shoot-through umbrella!
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Dave Schlier  Pro User  says:

Second attempt - same place, different subject (be thankful!)

Piano girl

My third attempt - finally got the halo effect by using a more acute camera angle
piano girl

Set up is essentially here.
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toxonophile says:

Here are my first two attempts. The first using a broad light set-up and the second using a short light set-up. I sat about 40 inches from the background. I used a 383 Super @ ½ pwr through a 45” umbrella. I also used a small reflector near the dark side of my face.

My game plan was to create the spot on the background and then put the model between the spot and the camera. It worked (with some fiddling around). I found the tip about “firing the flash while I looked through the lens” helpful in getting the spot on target.

I started with a 32 inch umbrella thinking it would make a better specular light. It did, wrt smaller & brighter pattern, but, it was harder to locate the smaller spot. The 45 in umbrella gave me a lot more wiggle room. I will try again with the 32 inch umbrella, and a little wider focal length to see if I can form a spot, complete with feathered edges, around the head of the model.

Now I know what you are all thinking…

The answer is No! I am not a professional model.

;~))

Cheers! Tox

Broadlight Comp

Shortlight Comp
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infxualbydesign says:

Well heres my final i think i have the technique worked out. I would like to have a play on different backgrounds though

Specular Portrait Final
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Graham Rose  Pro User  says:

goign to keep looking for a round specular, but for now i foudn an interesting rectangle one in the headboard of my bed. And, as usual a model that can be swayed by the promise of nothign more then a toy to play with!

Care Free
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yourealwaysbe says:

Oh man, this one is annoying. I wouldn't call it final, but it's where i was at oneish this morning.

IMG_9155small

I think i've got the idea, although i'm currently blaming the not-so shiney background and my lack of an umbrella.
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chqueen2000 says:

First test image (and first strobist post). For the next one I'll try to get the specular reflection a bit more on the shadow side.

My first strobist picture!
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Brian Gudas Photography  Pro User  says:


This is my first try at the specular highlight assignment. Really trying to stretch the highlight to the left here but it is easier said than done .... for sure.
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gerry.m  Pro User  says:

I forgot to place the photo here. It was a surprise to see how touchy the set up was. I was trying to put a halo on old St Nick. This is a Santa I really like. It's 30 inches with a hand carved wooden face.

I had difficulty finding a background to give a specular reflection around the house. I finally turned the coffee table on it's side and placed it on the couch. Set up: 2 SB800's paired into a single white shoot thru umbrella. Set on manual at 1/8 power and fired via CLS. Camera D70 with 17-55 lens at 1/60 f5.6. White wall 5 feet to camera left gave slight shadow fill.
--Gerry
Assignment Umbrella Specular
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A@Dhaka says:

Here's my attempt. learned a lot doing this. Getting the camera position angle correct took some time. Noticed another thing, that the reflection changed size dramatically depending on focal length. I was first using the wider end of the 17-55 lens, the reflection was too small and shifted drastically with a small change in camera position. The 55mm end proved easier to get the reflection where I wanted it, and a better size too.
Great exercise, thanks DH for the continuous learning process!

AA005037

Setup:

AA005075

SB800 on stand, slaved with GI V2, shot thru translucent umbrella at [probably] 1/4 power, shot with D2Hs at f/5.6 and 1/160 sec - camera position just left of umbrella [as looking at the frame] and I was crouching a bit to get the angle correct. Subject was positioned around 18"; from door.
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strobist is a group administrator strobist  Pro User  says:

Nice, A@.
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Valdormar says:

Umbrella Specular Valdormar Hauslendale
Umbrella Specular Valdormar Hauslendale - Yes thats me Mr. 32 year old.
See the larger size for more detail

•285HV 1/4 thrust, PC sync cord to camera.
•45inch white umbrella bounced, on camera right.
•42inch silver reflector, camera left.
•Canon EOS 20D + 28-70mm f/5.6 + 1/250th + ISO 100.

See will kind of the SETUP here, more like me acting very silly, most unlike myself.
SETUP - Umbrella Specular Valdormar Hauslendale
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trythil [deleted] says:

Here's my first real attempt. Thanks to everyone who's been posting photos and comments in this thread; I've learned quite a bit from you all :)



I'd like to increase the rate of falloff in the highlight; will work on that tomorrow.

[edit: Oh, yeah, and the glasses casting shadows on my face. I should work on minimizing those, too...]

Also, tomorrow, I hope to have the opportunity to make portraits with other people, who will hopefully be more photogenic and engaging. So hopefully I'll have something halfway acceptable by the 26th :)
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goldenblatt says:

Another try

L102: assignment 2: segundo intento
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danny_kino  Pro User  says:

Had my first go last night, which was harder than i thought, despite being good at pool, my pool shot with the flash was a bit rubbish, so took a while to get it. Had to use the coffee table on its side for the background, still i think it worked. Comments would be great as i'm gonna have another go later. Cheers
siobhan (1 of 1)
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ABAtwood  Pro User  says:

Stbst102 Umbrella Specular

I knew I kept that silver foam core around for something. It's the only slightly reflective surface I could find, and may well be to much.
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jasosmith says:

Love this shot - can someone help with the setup. I recall the background is created by shooting a gelled flash through a water jug.

www.flickr.com/photos/31454864@N00/1179624142/
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gkutas  Pro User  says:

I must be missing something... i cannot get my hotspot from bare or diffused with A4 paper to be small enough forthe type of effect that you all get!

Help please!

Thanks,
GK
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jamesd3rd says:

After numerous frustrating attempts, I've pretty much come to the conclusion that the best way to produce that circular "halo" effect is with a shoot through umbrella. My approach using a diffusing screen just won't cut it.

I keep ending up with a huge rectangular reflection in the background. Even if I snoot the strobe, it still lights up the screen so much that I see a rectangular shape.

I don't have the room to move it back to make it a smaller light source either. Not to mention that my background is actually way too reflective. Most people seem to be using some sort of paneling, a door, leather chair back or some other semi-glossy backdrop. None of which I have. I guess I could go to Home Depot and see I could get a piece of paneling cut but would it be worth the effort?. I still don't have the umbrella in my possession.

I'm open to suggestions on how I can pull this off. Keep in mind I'm working in the tight surroundings of an apartment. It's extremely tough to get the angles due to lack of room.

@ABAtwood, how big was that silver foamcore you used as a background? It looks larger than your average piece you find at a craft store.
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ABAtwood  Pro User  says:

jamesd3rd: It's 4x8ft. insulating material.
i was standing about 3 ft in front of it with the umbrella in my face.
Camera about another 3 ft away from me.
Hope that helps and Good luck.
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yourealwaysbe says:

@gkutas: i had the same problem with the black card i used (above). I think the background is important: i found it easy to get a halo against a (fantastically ugly) metal radiator, but an sob against the card (the shot i posted has the flash bare, fully zoomed and about a meter from the background).

It's dead easy if you use a mirror...
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gkutas  Pro User  says:

thanks for that... i'll keep trying and see what i get.
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jeffegg2  Pro User  says:

@jamesd3rd: perhaps a smaller screen? or cut a hole in a dark posterboard to gobo out all but a circle?
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jbimages  Pro User  says:

This is my first attempt at this assignment. I spent a bit of time looking for the combination of a dark semi reflective surface and some room around it. I settled on a sliding door, the only one with space around it - its amazing how many doors are at the end of narrow passages.
I had to use the stand-in model for this one.
Specular umbrella 1

I have a bit of spill above the specular highlight that needs to go. Space was limited

580EZ flash on 1/16 power fired by ebay 16 channel trigger.


The setup photo is in my photostream.
farm2.static.flickr.com/1083/1201848838_a6684907e4_o.jpg
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cham128  Pro User  says:

my god i'm such a slacker I haven't had a chance to even attempt this properly yet... someone slap me upside the head
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Apocrypha  Pro User  says:

OK, here we go :-)

Struggling with this assignment a lot, not for technical reasons, but because our house is severely lacking in large, dark, reflective surfaces! All our walls are pale and matt, 99% of the wooden furniture etc in our house is also pale, we just don't *do* dark & reflective!

So anyway, I improvised a bit, played a round (a lot, see last pic ;) and came up with these so far:

Lighting 102 assignment 2 - 3

Lighting 102 assignment 2 - 2

Lighting 102 assignment 2 - 1

Personally I like the one with the bin-bag background the most!

One problem I found is that with uneven surfaces like the bin-liner the specular reflection of the umbrella appears a lot larger, I reckon due to the varying reflective angles on the uneven background. This meant I had to back the umbrella away quite a lot, thus reducing the brightness of the diffuse reflection from the subject.

And here's the demonstration of how much chimping and playing around was going on with this over the last week or so :p
if at first...

So, yeah, few things I've learned doing this:

1) It's definitely easier to position the umbrella and camera first and THEN get your model into position. Even if the model is yourself!

2) If the model is yourself then something to mark the floor to indicate where to stand is VERY useful. Exact positioning is crucial for this technique it seems so being a few cm off either way makes a big difference and when you trot back to the camera for a chimp it's handy to have something to show you where to stand again for the next shot.

3) Umbrella distance: further away = smaller specular reflection halo, closer = larger specular halo.

4) The background has a big effect on how you can light this. Darker and more reflective backgrounds mean an apparently brighter specular reflection so you can crank the flash down a bit. Lighter and/or less reflective backgrounds seem to need more light to get a good specular halo.

5) If you're getting shadows on the background just move your subject further away from it. Of course this means you need a bigger background! Some of the most suitable backgrounds in my house were just too small - if I moved far enough away to lose the shadow I was casting then I couldn't fill the frame with them!

6) This would definitely be easier in a larger building than our house! :p

(edit: 7: I own some very silly hats)
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wmchad says:

Here are a couple that I've taken (out of about 200). I'm not sure what photo I'll end up using as a final, but these are candidates. One of the problems I've had is that the subject's shadow is very apparent against the background, as in the first shot. It seems like the best way to fix it is to have the subject be much closer to the umbrella than the wall - that way the shadow falls out of the frame (or at least isn't so obvious, as in the second picture). It seems like this assignment would be easier with a shoot-through umbrella?

Nicho With Gavin

Mother's Love
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jamesd3rd says:

@jeffegg2,

Thanks for the suggestion. It had to be so simple. I have some black poster board I can cut a huge hole in and clip into the screen.

I saw where a dark trash bag was used as a background in a post by Apocrypha. I actually thought of that yesterday but for some reason completely forgot about it. Like he, I am finding space is a premium. I don't have that much room to move around in to get things in the proper position. Either the tripod, screen or flash stand is bumping into something that gets in the way.
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christofleeze  Pro User  says:

much tougher than i expected, but great learning experience! Looking forward to the next lesson.

Umbrella Specular Portrait
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Hugh Beauchamp  Pro User  says:

Hi guys, here are my efforts. Like everyone else, slightly shiny dark surfaces are at something of a premium in my house, and I really struggled to find something large enough! In the end I've gone for an old upright piano. Becky, my victim, is rather tall, so it was a bit of a mission getting the piano to fill the background, so she's sitting on the floor in these shots.

Any opinions as to which I should use for my final? I can't decide between the classic portrait and the more relaxed, spontaneous one.

Becky

Becky Laughing
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Emergenic  Pro User  says:

I know I said I would not try anymore...but I got bored and shot a few quick ones tonight, here's two of them.

L102 Specular - Test 5

L102 Specular Test 8
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Jack Knecht says:

this is one of the first times toying with the off camera strobe, I am pretty new at it. I love it though and hope to keep building my skills with it, thanks strobist.
Jared
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Dave Schlier  Pro User  says:

Slightly different portrait, different day, same place, same young lady:
saintly piano girl redux

Set up shot is here
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Brock N. Meeks says:

Hey, Em... I like the top photo or what I think you're trying to do in the top photo. It's "almost there" for me. I think you have the lighting nailed as far as the exposure goes, and I really dig that reflected highlight of the umbrella ribbing in the sunglasses, though I wish it completely filling that eyeglass frame (one of those "all or none" type things).

But man... that background, I dunno. Just isn't happening for me (I think the woodgrain is too pronounced and makes it distracting for me), some kind of solid (muted?) color would be perfect, cause everything else is working.
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Diego Tabango  Pro User  says:

hi group,

i figured i would try one more time, this time a self portrait utilizing the same backround as my first entry.

Strobist: Assignment 2 final
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fstop studios says:

Infrared Specular Reflection

Here's my second attempt, shot with a dedicated IR camera. Using a SB-800 at 1/4 pwr 50mm manual shot through an umbrella.
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allan_campbell says:

IMG_9449.jpg

Better this time around but still a more reflective surface for a background would make the separation from the back ground stand out more.
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DouaLiege says:

Second attempt ... I think Iam getting it ... I am happy, I am happy, Iam happy... :))

Umbrella Specular Portrait 4
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romerje says:

www.flickr.com/photos/8827756@N07/1207980802/

Here is my first attempt at a strobist assignment. and I am having trouble posting my photo ...please help
Newbie having trouble.....thanks Jen
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allan_campbell says:

Jen,
Try this link for information on linking photos in a discussion

www.flickr.com/groups/spectacular_animals/discuss/7215759...

for why you pictures do not show in a search look here
www.flickr.com/groups/strobist/discuss/72157601468199689/
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fstop studios says:

Specular Reflection B&W IR - cropped

Cropped and turned black and white.
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Tim Atl says:

Third attempt. So many things to keep track of. Couldn't even see those smudges under room light or on the LCD.

Strobist_SpecularReflection
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romerje says:

Ok...here goes....I got some help with posting pictures....
here is a second attempt at the specular assignment....thanks for the help .....Jen
Nikon D100
125 F13
sb600 camera right @1/2 power shot through a 8x11 piece of white paper.

Specular #6
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romerje says:

Here is my first attempt....sorry everyone...this is a repost....but the picture can now be seen....
Nikon d100
Sb600 camera right @ 1/2 power shot through a 8x11 piece of white paper
125 f11

yeah to my first strobist assignment.....

Specular #1
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