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Lighting a room [Old thread; new "Thank you" :-) ]

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Scott Hargis  Pro User  says:

I've gotten some inquiries about techniques for lighting interiors with off-camera flash, and so last week I took a few minutes and "deconstructed" a shoot. Here are the components that went into the final product for this living room. I chose this room not for it's beauty but because in this case each light is doing a very discrete job with very little overlap, and because there is almost no ambient being used at all, which is rather unusual. My goal, which I did NOT achieve in this case, is to create the impression that the shot is made entirely with ambient, with appropriate shadows behind objects, etc. Still, this is a good example for light placement.

Here is the room shot entirely with ambient: (1/125, f/8 -- to kill the hotspot coming in from the small window behind the lamp)
Ambient Exposure

The first step was to get a main light positioned and see where the shadows remained. I put a speedlight to my left and slightly behind me, aimed straight up at the high ceiling. Wow! Big difference:
Bounce from Ceiling

There's still a dark shadowy area behind the chimney, along the staircase. So a light goes there, about 1/8 power, on a short stand, with a home-made diffuser cap made from a bottle of rubbing alcohol. Note that it's on the second flight of stairs behind the railings. Otherwise I'd have crazy railing shadows everywhere. It's aimed up and into the back of the chimney, so that I have a fairly large light source bouncing back onto the visible rear wall behind the railing. Unless it's absolutely necessary, I never aim the flash directly at the subject; it nearly always gets bounced off of something! Here's the shot with 2 lights at work, our ceiling bounce and the behind-the-chimney bounce:
Behind the column

Ok, getting better. At the top of the stairs though, we can see just a little of the second floor, and it's pretty dark and scary up there. So another light goes inside one of the bedrooms, where the light can bounce off the door and brighten up the hallway walls and the ceiling. I gelled this one CTO in this setup shot so you can find where I'm talking about easier:
Upstairs

Finally, I turn on the on-camera strobe (sacrilege, I know), at 1/2 or 1/4 power, with diffuser cap. This fills in all the little nooks and crannies and helps define the objects in the room. In this final result, I've also run tweaked the color balance, and tweaked levels to punch up the blacks.
Final

What I dislike about this image is the "flat" quality of the light. If I had it to do over, I would have added a fifth light, camera left, and broken my rule of "no direct flash", aiming it into the room at maybe 1/8 or 1/4, to help define the furniture better, especially the coffee table. You can also see artifacts from my on-camera light on the white door in the rear right corner of the room. This is from reflections off of the plasma TV screen. So it goes.

Hope this is helpful!
Originally posted at 9:55PM, 15 April 2007 PDT (permalink)
Nionyn_ edited this topic 11 months ago.

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seanmophoto  Pro User  says:

very helpful, thanks for the post
Posted 62 months ago. (permalink)

Rashy Tashy [deleted] says:

Now that's attention to detail. Getting the upstairs and behind the chimney made a big difference. Those dark areas are barely noticeable until you actually improve the lighting and see the difference.
Posted 62 months ago. (permalink)

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solodogs  Pro User  says:

Extremely effective demonstration Scott. Thanks for taking the time.
Posted 62 months ago. (permalink)

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Daveblog says:

This was great! I like the way you gelled for instructional purposes. What a cool idea.
Posted 62 months ago. (permalink)

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Nexusix Photography says:

Scott,

That's a great how-to, I'm sure it will help folks a bunch.

I see what you mean about the flatness, Highlighting the furniture would probably do it but I think maybe you would want to change the f stop by about half and turn that last light (the furniture light) up just a hair as well.

Of course, that's all hypithetical at this point.

Peace,
Gary
Originally posted 62 months ago. (permalink)
Nexusix Photography edited this topic 62 months ago.

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pmagrawal says:

Nice tutorial...
Posted 62 months ago. (permalink)

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James Rubio says:

Thanks for the tutorial Scott!
Posted 62 months ago. (permalink)

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stellarviewer  Pro User  says:

Scott,

Very helpful sequence for a novice like me.
Thanks,

Bob
Posted 62 months ago. (permalink)

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noeltykay  Pro User  says:

Nice, thanks!
Posted 62 months ago. (permalink)

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zoetrope  Pro User  says:

Well done tutorial. Thanks.
Posted 62 months ago. (permalink)

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sagephotography says:

Thanks!
Waiting for the next one!??
Posted 62 months ago. (permalink)

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Travis' Photography says:

also, thanks :)
Posted 62 months ago. (permalink)

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adperry says:

I think the photo without the on camera flash looks the best.
Posted 62 months ago. (permalink)

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QorbeQ says:

Thanks a lot Scott.

I've looked at your interior shots with wonder in the past, imagining how on earth I'd manage to plan where to put all the strobes, and at what powers, before taking a single imaginary perfect shot of the scene.

The way you've explained this - start with nothing then work in one light at a time from the "overall" to the "detail" - makes so much more sense!
Posted 62 months ago. (permalink)

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Semi_Transparent says:

Great tutorial. That pile of wires behind the AV components is really messy. Although the first shot hides the clutter, I think the second to last is the nicest.

Well done!
Posted 62 months ago. (permalink)

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steeeve! says:

thats a nice room! like the telly!


oh and good photography too =]
Posted 62 months ago. (permalink)

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Scott Hargis  Pro User  says:

Thanks, everyone.

Semi -- yes, the first shot hides a lot of stuff doesn't it! ;-)

This was fun to do, maybe I'll do another one in a kitchen....
Posted 62 months ago. (permalink)

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frogstomper says:

Very helpful. Thanks Scott.
Posted 54 months ago. (permalink)

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Jerry P.H.  Pro User  says:

At what ISO was the second last shot done at? I think that if you raised ISO up some or increase the EV +1 or +1.3 you would not have needed that direct flash?

I really liked how you explained it, it made me think and want to see how well I could duplicate your results in my own home.

Well done, thanks!
Originally posted 54 months ago. (permalink)
Jerry P.H. edited this topic 54 months ago.

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Crs127 says:

I thought the pic with one light was fine because it gave it some texture, it looked natural.
From the one light pic, if you add 2 more lights, one on the furniture and one on the coffee table with low power, that would have made it pop a lot more.
I believe adding the extra lights made the picture "flat".
Posted 54 months ago. (permalink)

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Fargo Photog says:

Scott,

Thanks for this. I was just getting ready to message you about your technique. I'm getting into real-estate photography myself. I was bored at work one day and went online to look at houses for the hell of it. What I found were just terrible pictures taken with point and shoot cameras. I talked to the real-estate agent who helped me and my wife find our house and she said there could definitely be a market there. Thanks for helping me figure out a little how I plan to light some rooms. Your shots are awesome...so are the houses you get to shoot.

Fargo
Posted 54 months ago. (permalink)

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Silver Image Photography (aka: Tim)  Pro User  says:

Scott,
Thank you so much for this, I may actually need to put this to use on Thursday evening to light the inside of a small bar type location.
Happy new year!
Tim
Posted 54 months ago. (permalink)

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Scott Hargis  Pro User  says:

Wow, this got resurrected from what, a year ago?

You guys should check out this group if you're interested in interiors:
www.flickr.com/groups/photographyforrealestate/
Posted 54 months ago. (permalink)

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JurdenPhoto says:

Aaaaand.... resurrection from 2 years ago!
Posted 27 months ago. (permalink)

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brinlloyd says:

Yep

At least it shows that he did a search!!!!!

B
Posted 27 months ago. (permalink)

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PaulGibsonPhoto  Pro User  says:

I found this invaluable - thanks for posting. I have a shoot coming up involving interiors (furniture in a retail space specifically) which is not something I've done before. This gives me some important clues :)
Posted 11 months ago. (permalink)

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