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You wouldn't happen to have a 285HV handy would you?
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Sorry, no.
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I've recently got a pair and though they trigger my oly fl-50 flawlessly, they won't trigger my 285hv at all :( . Whereas my old ebay triggers were really unreliable, but *will* trigger the 285hv. Doh! Luckily I've also got an optical slave for it, but would love to find out why!
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do these have a pc sync for use with my sb800 and sb 28? I like the design a lot better than PWs...
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The sync socket is one of those mono-headphone jack thingies.
I was able to use the cable that came with my PT-04 ebay slaves to connect to the SB28
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Typical, I just ordered my pocket wizards sets.....
Oh well never mind, I'm sure I'll live...
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Jon Leighton [deleted] says:
Any chance you could put up some photos please? Also, the 3.5mm cable, are either or both of the ends male or female?
It baffles me why they don't supply a 3.5mm to PC cable...
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some more good info here:L
dfarkas.blogspot.com/
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*cries* They look reaaallly sweet too.
Anyone want to buy some brand new Pocket wizard plus 2's??
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Could you describe the cable you made up? Maybe later revisions will include an adaptor.
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am i right in seeing these skyports as an intermediate between PWs and Ebays?
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hmmm... Isn't 115GBP the same as 225USD which is definitely PW land. B&H lists the PW plus as 188USD.
Am I missing something?
(Oh and hello everyone. First post. I've been lurking for a while. Trying to soak everything up.)
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Possibly the 225USD is for both a transmitter and a receiver, but the 188USD Pocket Wizard is only for one "transceiver", and you need two for a set. (so a set of Pocket Wizard Transceivers would be 376USD).
Enjoy! Lon
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when will these be available in the states?
I can't seem to locate them..
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They are not available in the states yet. As I understand it, Bogen is still in negotiations with the FCC in the USA.
I would expect them by the summer. Be happy if they come sooner, but don't expect it.
And I really hope they turn out to be all they promise.
I have very little confidence in Bogen's ability to deliver right now. And Elinchrom is infamous for creating great products without providing sufficient stock. I'm hoping I will see a sample real soon, but if it's going to be another 3373 fiasco, they can keep 'em.
Of course, they'll be off to David a few days after they come in - for him to test and evaluate.
Keep your fingers crossed, but don't hold your breath...
Moishe
mpex.com/Strobist
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anyone have an idea of the range of these things?
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MPEX -- WHEN ARE YOU STOCKING THESE? (FCC.. schmeff-CC)
edit: Oops -- you beat me to it! Awesome.
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Seem to be available in Canada: Elinchrom Skyports
$350CAD for 1x Transmitter, 2x Transceiver and 1x USB Transceiver, sweet!
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@grahamcase: wow, avaialble in canada froma reputable dealer and at a farily good price
that usb transciever is interesting.. anyone know anything interesting you can trigger with that?
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Drifting - As far as range is concerned, they look fairly light and I doubt I could throw one more than twenty or thirty yards.......
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 anyone have an idea of the range of these things?
Speedgraphic reports 120m, but then they are trying to sell us them.
v_tofu that usb transciever is interesting.. anyone know anything interesting you can trigger with that?
Apparently you can get software, plug the usb bit into your computer and make lots of changes to the lights using your lappy, or something like that.
Quote from the Farkas link
The Computer Remote/RX Trigger Set takes the same kit above and adds a USB nub with an antenna. Plug it into your laptop or studio computer and you can control even more parameters. The software will automatically find all RX transceivers and correctly identify models and number of heads plugged in. You can program in sequencing and even save an entire studio lighting setup and reload it to your lights at a later date. This kit will retail for $250.
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saundstu [deleted] says:
These triggers work really well.
No misfires from the flash and more importantly no messing around with diy methods to get them to work with canon flashes.
Open the box, plug em in and off you go.
Distance test image here:
www.flickr.com/photos/48942645@N00/400948691
Size of units here:
www.flickr.com/photos/48942645@N00/400948689
Plus as a bonus I can change the power of my Elinchrom heads from the transmitter.
The only draw back is the 580ex will not fire when it is set to "master". Its not a major problem (I have four receivers) but if you just buy the kit (transmiter and one receiver) it could cause a bit of bother.
Also the universal receiver unit is in short supply at the moment - unless you know where to buy them that is ;-)
Another thread on the subject here: www.flickr.com/groups/strobist/discuss/72157594410790640
Stu
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The big detail for me is the sync speed. Supposedly it'll go up to 1/1000 if your camera can sync that fast. That seals it for me. I'm waiting for these. The funny bit is I was actually on the phone with Moishe yesterday to order the pocket wizards, but he didn't have a couple other things I needed, so I told him I would wait. Boy am I glad I did!
Here's the company's pdf on the units.
www.elinchrom.com/Downloads/Literature/Skyport/EL-Skyport EN.pdf
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Stu wrote:
>Also the universal receiver unit is in short supply at the moment - unless you know where to buy them that is ;-)
Spill the beans Stu, I'm desperate to get a couple of recievers.
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saundstu: how are you attaching it to your 580EX?
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saundstu [deleted] says:
Paulo Rodrigues2006 - "Spill the beans Stu, I'm desperate to get a couple of recievers."
from the flash centre (got one, they split a kit for me) and on a job last week from a shop in Berlin ( got two ). I also have a mate coming over from Canada next week with one as well.
However, it would seem that the receivers are in short supply across europe. Elinchrom underestimated the demand.
Jon Leighton - "saundstu: how are you attaching it to your 580EX?"
You will need:
Kaiser 1301 Flash Shoe Adapter
www.warehouseexpress.co.uk/index.asp?photo/flashguns/kais...
and a Miniphone to pc Female adapter.Try the flash centre for that.
connect it as in:
www.flickr.com/photos/48942645@N00/401930252
cheers
Stu.
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saundstu [deleted] says:
jdrews says:
"hmmm... Isn't 115GBP the same as 225USD which is definitely PW land. B&H lists the PW plus as 188USD."
compare the price locally:
PocketWizard PLUS 11 Transceiver Set £250 + vat (another 17.5%) in the UK.
teamworkphoto.com/pocketwizard.html
Elinchrom universal set £99 +vat. (half the price of PW's)
When they hit the states I would imaging the same sort of price difference (Moishe must have an idea of price, no?)
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Was that a two reciever set that they split? They said they didnt have any of them when I went down to the Brunswick centre on Wednesday
TBH at that price I'd almost be inclined to order a second tx rx set for the spare transmitter. But ideally I would really like three recievers.
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More about them here (Press Release):
www.bjp-online.com/public/showPage.html?page=430176
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saundstu [deleted] says:
Paulo Rodrigues2006 says:
"Was that a two reciever set that they split? They said they didnt have any of them when I went down to the Brunswick centre on Wednesday"
Nope it was the single receiver set they split. That took a lot of persuasion though and to be honest I think they agreed just to get shot of me ;)
There are some online stores on the continent that have them but they are going fast.
you could always buy another single set, the price isn't that different (£65 + vat for the receiver on its own) and have a spare transmitter.
They do work exceptionally well.
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montgomeryphoto:
Yes I am syncing to an SB800 with not problems.
Jon Leighton:
The cable has 3.5mm plugs at both ends.
quietjim:
The cable I made was a PC male to a 3.5mm jack plug.
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timbo1472 says:
> am i right in seeing these skyports as an intermediate between PWs
> and Ebays?
As far as price is concerned they definately fill the gap. But if you have Elinchrom heads (I don't) then they offer considerably more than PW's. From what I read it is possible to control several Elinchrom heads from your computer using the Skyports and the USB module.
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Also for sale in The Netherlands
www.fotoflits.nl/index.php?cPath=26_52&osCsid=ae75a52...
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Canadian Source: www.vistek.ca/details/details.aspx?WebCode=227656
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Swedish source:
yfo.se/product.php?_task=product&product_id=9557
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My one criticism of the skyport is that it doesn't lock onto the hot shoe securely, I already dropped the thing twice, because it slipped off the hot shoe. Looks like a little gaffa tape may be in order.
I pleased to say that it survived the fall, as did the reciever when my light stand blew over today. Which is more than can be said for my umbrella.
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Has anyone tried the Calumet Lightlink system?
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I just read this on DPReview forums:
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I also noticed that my 580EX used with Elinchrome skyport will not sync at 1/200 with 5D. 1/160 is max, as at 1/200 the edge is already dark. Have you tried this? The flash on camera does sync at 1/200 of course.
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Is this true? Any of you guys have a 5D and Skyports? In the literature it supposed to sync as high as the camera can go up to 1/1000.
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Sorry if its already been asked here but i don't think i saw it.
Just wondering what is needed in order to connect the recievers to the flashes? Do the recievers come with some sort of pc cord?
Thanks
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Not sure if this thread is dead yet or not, but I thought I'd chime in - anybody know if US'ers can order them from Vistek and get them shipped to the US without a problem? Vistek says yes, but I'm curious if customs would stop it.
I'm awfully tempted to order a set. With shipping it ends up being about $250 USD. Not bad.
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I've been waiting for them from Vistek. But the FCC hasn't released them yet. I just bought 3 PW yesterday, could wait any longer.
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First post after reading here for the last few weeks.
I checked the Vistek website a couple of days ago, then phoned to confirm availability of the Skyports. They do list them as available on the website but apparently do not yet have any in stock. According to Alex at Customer Service, they are taking pre-orders for the end of the month. From the looks of it, however, that may be very optimistic.
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Does anyone want to sell their PW + II's? I will give you $100.00 for 'em if they are in good condition. I need two units.
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I got my universal set a few days ago. I ordered them from my local Vistek (Calgary) a few weeks ago. Apparently they're trying to get 20 sets, but are having trouble....
They're smaller than I expected, and lighter. They work great. Mine came with a miniphone to PC cord as well... which will be useful when I find an SB24 or break down and buy the Vivitar, but hooking up to my Canon flash required an extra $30 worth of adapters.
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i got an universal set too
in general, it works really well, BUT:
- maybe it's just my camera, i haven't tested this on others, but when the transmitter is set to "off"and i snap a shot with my canon 10D, i get an "error 99" (camera locks up, and has to be turned off and on again)
this happens both in the hotshoe and with the sync cable
when it's set to "all" or "group" (the both on modes), it works, but if i turn it off and shoot, i have to take it off as well
- the on/off switch of the receiver is a protruding push switch, and can turn itself on in the bag (happened to me already)
i glued a ring of neoprene foam around it, to prevent that in the future
(why not a sliding switch like on the transmitter? i'd much prefer that, it would also be easier to see if it's turned on, now you can only see it from a led, which only blinks every few seconds)
- the receiver doesn't have a led to confirm its operation, this makes ruling out a weak or empty battery more complicated
- mine didn't come with a miniphone to pc cord (a minor hassle, since i make such adapters myself for ~2 bucks)
when i first opened the package, i was amazed and a bit concerned by the size of both units, it all looked so tiny and fragile
but after having handled them for some time, they seem to be well made after all
time will tell
so far, the range and reliability is very pleasing, which is why i got that thing in the first place (after some troubles with ebay remotes), and the group switching will come in handy for test-lighting too, (once i get the additional receivers)
still the best alternative to pocket wizards at the moment
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There's a comparison review of them on poocs.net now.
poocs.net/2007/5/9/elinchrom-skyport-vs-pocketwizard
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"PANZERWOLF says:
- the on/off switch of the receiver is a protruding push switch, and can turn itself on in the bag (happened to me already)
i glued a ring of neoprene foam around it, to prevent that in the future
(why not a sliding switch like on the transmitter? i'd much prefer that, it would also be easier to see if it's turned on, now you can only see it from a led, which only blinks every few seconds)
- the receiver doesn't have a led to confirm its operation, this makes ruling out a weak or empty battery more complicated
- mine didn't come with a miniphone to pc cord (a minor hassle, since i make such adapters myself for ~2 bucks)"
These are the only downsides I've had yet. The swich on the receiver being the biggest part. Just found out a couple of days ago that the battery had died because the receiver had swicthed on in the bag when I had just set up for a shot. I need to try something similar to Panzerwolf's idea.
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Still can't get a straight answer out of Bogen on the ETA for USA...
Moishe
mpex.com/Strobist
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@ Moishe:
maybe because they have serious production/delivery problems in europe already, and don't know how or when they can meet the demand overseas
i've been waiting for my extra receivers for almost 3 months now, and i'm not the only one ...
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The answer from Bogen has been that they are still waiting on FCC approval. They state that they have a huge amount ready to ship as soon as they get approval.
I find it all a bit suspect....
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I ordered a new universal set and it got lost in the post. Once Royal mail admitted they screwed up I was promised a new one in the post, but its touch and go as to wether I'll get it before the weekend in time for my daughter's birthday party. My local shop now has them in stock, so I'm very tempted to go and pick up a third set for the weekend.
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I don't find the FCC comments suspect at all. I've dealt with FCC approvals before, and this is par for the course.
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By a strange twist of fate I mention to speedgraphic that I would buy one from the flash centre if they couldn't get me one for the weekend and it turns out that they buy them from the flashcentre. So I got a refund and headed down there yesterday to get one.
It looks like they are sold out again. Good news for London Strobists is that they are still prepared to sell the recievers seperately for £65, they are hedging on getting reciever only kits in the future to make back up into packs.
The bad news is that the new stock all appears to have that braindead pushbutton on the reciever. I was wondering what Panzerwolk and Alks were going on about because my first reciever had a slider switch, which meant I only had myself to blame if it went dead.
Now, where can I get a neoprene ring?
I guess an email to the Elincrom customer service department might be in order, because that pushbutton is a deal breaker for me.
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@paolo: neoprene-like material is used a lot in mouse pads, just cut a piece from a cheap one
but it doesn't have to be soft, any kind of thick washer will do, as long as you can reach the button with a fingernail
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I also had the problem of them turning on by accidentally being pressed, perhaps I'll cut up my mousepad.
Also had the problem that I didn't have the right cable to connect it to my SB-24. It came with a PC-sync 2.5mm mono jack (for connecting the transmitter to the camera pc-sync), but had to make a 2.5mm 3.5mm adaptor so I could use it with my flash :)
in addition to all that, it didn't come with an Australian power adaptor. :P
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@ Patrick N. Are you still happy with your Elincrom transmitter / receiver. After today's failure with my SB-800's & CLS, I think it is time to bite the bullet and purchase these creatures. I was thinking of the Ebay gear - PW's way out of my price bracket, and just stumbled on your post via Strobist Blog. Cheers
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i just got my skyports and i love them, they fire off my sb-24s every single time, im still waiting on my hotshoe connection for my 430ex but so far everything has worked flawless and i even shot some sequences at 5 fps with sb-24s that fired everytime which is a very great change from the ebays that would fire off prob 1/3 of the time. Big difference if your shooting action ( i shoot skateboarding) and missing that one they pulled off cus your flash didnt fire gets unacceptable real fast.
EDIT: Oh ya by the way do not order the transceiver set unless you are shooting with an elinchrom RX strobes because they have no sync ports and will not work. I made that mistake haha careless reading.
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@jgrubbsphoto... I've just found a site in Australia that is selling elinchrom. I soon will be shooting with D300 and I have 2 x SB800's. What set(s) do I need? the UNIV / REMOTE? I can't go into the shop to look 'cos I literally live in the middle of the Indian Ocean - the closest camera shop is 3,000klms away! Appreciate any advice on this before I order. Cheers
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@Karen: Yup, 'universal' is the set you need. You'll get one 'set' with a transmitter/receiver, then just add more receivers to taste. I just got some myself a few months back now - and would recommend them for sure.
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I just love these thingies, tiny and reliable. Syncs 1/200 with 5D and SB-25 & SB-80DX.
only con is that there doesn't come pc-3,5mm cord with package.
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@karen cocos: get the UNIVERSAL receiver set. Do not get the set that comes with a transmitter and a RX transceiver. The RX transceivers only work with the RX lighting system from elinchrom. Before you order make sure the receivers that your getting are the UNIVERSAL RECEIVERS and not the RX transceivers. If you have any questions feel free to message me cus i just went through that one cus i didnt read it very close before i ordered. Aside from depending on what flash you are using to be able to use the chords they send with you these things are awesome. The connection i needed didnt come with the supplied chords but i just soldered them out of the ones they sent me, wasnt too big of a deal.
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@ Mista Fiz & jgrubbsphoto - thanks for prompt response. I would require two receivers to operate my two SB-800's. The Aussie distributor is quite a bit more expensive than on Adorma/Amazon/B&H, BUT I have experienced shipping challenges from the USA. Generally stuff is sent via UPS which gets as far as mainland Australia and then stops. I then have to organise someone to send it onto me. The joys of living remotely. The prices are definitely better in the USA. Are there any suppliers in Asia?
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