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Composite Imagery, Panoramas & 32 Megapixels from our Fuji!

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Victor W. is a group moderator Victor W.  Pro User  says:

As promised, here follows a basic tutorial for composite imagery.

You'll have to forgive me, but I've been laid up in bed for two days with a 106'F temperature! :(



Firstly, the software that I have been using is Microsoft ICE, (Image Composite Editor) and is available for free, (isn't that a lovely word), to download from here: research.microsoft.com/ivm/ice.html and is available for XP, Vista 32 & 64 bit.

The basic concept is quite straight forward and just involves taking lots of pictures, (as many or few as required), then using this software to combine or stitch all the images together to form a larger image.

The following image shows the process for a basic panorama:

Graveyard Composite

This is the simplest method and generated an image equivalent to 28 megapixels and similar imagery to using a lens of 24mm wideangle, (35mm equivalent)

The final tonemapped and paintshopped image came out like so:

Elstow Abbey Graveyard

This just simply, (and I say that cautiously, I'll explain later), involves taking 8 pictures from one vantage point, making sure that each image overlaps the previous - Anywhere from 30% to 50% is a good start, the more the software has, the better the chance of a good stitch.

The following takes this concept one stage further:

Abbey Composite

This method involved 'panning' up and down the scene capturing 21 images in all. The final image was equivalent to 32 megapixels!

The final tonemapped and paintshopped image came out so:

Elstow Abbey

All in all, pretty impressive. (Well you'll be as impressed as I was when a 32 megapixel image comes up on your screen!!)

Now, here comes the more 'difficult' bits:-

You'll have to be in manual mode so that you get consistent exposures and the white balance will have to be locked for the subject, (ie anything but auto).
This ensures that the images are the same colour and tonality for stitching.
You could use auto, but you get weird results!
A good start is to check the exposure the camera gives you in A mode at around f5.6/f6.8. (f13.6 may give you problems when you come to darker areas). Set that exposure in 'M' mode and you'll pretty much be there.
The other problem is auto focus - I know manual is a pain to use but the camera may change focus throughout the panning process depending on subject distances.
ISO is actually not that important, 400 looks alright because you're making a much larger image in the final output, so it doesn't show up noise as much.

You also have to be careful of anything that moves whilst shooting the pan/combination. You'll notice on the last image I had to add a sky in afterwards, this was because the clouds moved during the shoot. (I overexposed the sky in the end knowing it would come out white so that I could add a sky using a simple overlay.)

When you've got that little lot out of the way, there comes the 'panning' techniques.
You may experience problems with 'parallax' where try as you might, the images will not stitch together. For landscape views the errors are fairly insignificant if you keep the camera to your face whilst using the viewfinder. If there are near and far objects such as lamp posts etc. you may find you get 'ghosting' or double images and 'tearing' errors, again where the images don't stitch properly.

This has to do with 'Nodal Point' techniques and I'll explain that later in another post if anyone wants to know more.

Another tip if your trying this out is to photograph your hand at the start and the end of the pan - makes it far easier to identify when you come to download the images!

Try it out in different places, can be quite impressive inside a room or building and gives that lovely extreme wideangle perspective.



As always, I'm more than happy to answer any questions and if anyone else has some tips then feel free to add them here. (I know the Laddie has done some vertical panorama shots and I think gp2003, (Albert), did some panoramas.)

Oh yes, I'll explain the tonemapping process in another post too.
(How to get those extra colours and tones on the final images.)

Give it a go and lets see those pictures.

Have fun!!!
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JAMES MARSHALL D is a group moderator JAMES MARSHALL D  Pro User  says:

Ssshh**t ! If only I had time for all of this....! Hmmm Pretty impressive there, Victor. U`ll have to explain me how else I could avoid potential focusing problems (from autofocus)...except from using manual focus. On this camera, is a real pain in the a.. fingers :D. Slow, slightly perceptive, sometimes I can`t even realize if it`s locked or not as it should be. Not something i could use in public spaces inside the city :(
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Victor W. is a group moderator Victor W.  Pro User  says:

Well the good thing is that the sensor on the fuji is small so has a better depth of field than most. If you set the camera to about f5.6/6.8 as suggested then the depth of field is fairly large. You may find that just switching to manual focus, the focus would be fairly much 'there'.
Try using the wideangle as well for better depth of field. Although 'barrel distortion' on the wideangle may cause problems with the software stitching, so just take more image overlaps to overcome this.

Give it a go, stand on one point and move the camera about taking as many overlapping images as you can - you may be surprised with the results.
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scalespeeder  Pro User  says:

Nice tutorial Victor!
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Victor W. is a group moderator Victor W.  Pro User  says:

Cheers Rob!
I hope it gives the chance for anyone to give it a go, it is worth the effort.

(I'll link some further tutorials regarding Nodal Point techniques and some HDR/tonemapping tutorials as well.)
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ksramprasad says:

excellent tutorial victor ! we have come to expect such things from you,and i was wondering for the last few days how come there were no posts from you. well, hope you are fine now.

but for the fact that, for some reason, i am restraining from postprocessing, i would have jumped into experimenting with such ideas. however, i am keeping all these things in my database for later - whenever that would be !
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Victor W. is a group moderator Victor W.  Pro User  says:

Thank you ksamprasad, you're very welcome.
Yes, I am feeling much better now thank you.

I didn't like to post process too much to start with, just basic fixes like brightness/contrast and cropping. Then I realised that our eyes are evolutionary poor and that it is our brains that post-process what we see. So now I've started to play around with the whole 'imagery' idea and extending the capabilities of our camera via software.

Glad you enjoyed it and your 'database' thoughts have given me the incentive to maybe 'centralise' all these ideas together.

Thanks again and best wishes to you.
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Slow dancin' says:

Thank you Victor. I've tried to stitch together panoramas before with little or no luck. ICE made it fool proof. The only bad thing about it is you lose the EXIF Data.
Humbug Marsh start frame of Panorama

Humbug Marsh Panorama
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rinki_jha21 says:

It's pretty informative and detailed presentation, Mr. Victor. Thanks for your Patience and interest.

I suppose one more software out there on the web with similar capabilities is "Auto stitch". One can try their hands on it too.
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Victor W. is a group moderator Victor W.  Pro User  says:

Thankyou 'Slow dancing' - nice to see your example.
I'm glad this has been of use to you and as you mentioned ICE is very easy to use and stitches the images very well. You do lose the EXIF unfortunately, small price to pay I suppose.
(I'll make another post later regarding parralax problems that may be faced and how to overcome them.)

Thanks 'rinki_jha21', just trying to share other techniques available to us that people may not have experienced. (Used to do this with film and was very, very hard work to do by hand!)
As you mention other software is available out there and 'AutoStitch' is a very good example. I chose ICE as it was freely available and seems to perform a very good job and very easy to use.

Really looking forward to seeing other members experience with this and their final imagery.
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The Laddie is a group administrator The Laddie says:

I think I will give this a try later tonight
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photomequickbooth is a group administrator photomequickbooth  Pro User  says:

Here's my first attempt....

Pano-Room [test]

No photoshopping, just as it came! I like it! hah!
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Mauritius100 says:

Thanks Victor - great explanation and photos to illustrate!

I took two sets of photos yesterday to try this. Used manual as explained above so as not to change exposures from one pic to another. Was feeling pretty pleased with myself - then realised I hadn't thought about the focussing. Oh well - back to the drawing board - maybe next weekend ;) Sorry - am a slow learner.
Bravo photoquickmebooth and Slow dancing for putting the lesson into practise so fast! Results vey good!

I read somewhere a hint for traditional panoramas in the horizontal mode eg scenic landscapes - take photos with camera in vertical direction. This is because when they pics are joined up a bit will be lost from the bottom and top of the scene shot. If one had used horizonatal format the panorama can become long and narrow. But if using vertical format it won't be so visible when a bit is lost.
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FKanyin says:


my First one :P i did it before manualy using Corel but never tried again xD
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rinki_jha21 says:

@ Victor,

Agreed. Sharing information in respect of freeware programs (legally acceptable) would be more useful / appropriate.

Thanks once again.
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Yamaneko_ is a group moderator Yamaneko_  Pro User  says:

Well I took some photos in Edinburgh and stitched them using ICE. It's just awesome, better than everything I tried with Photoshop! So easy to use and such great results.
Thanks, Victor!
New Town Panorama
Six images, 11.72 Megapixels
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Victor W. is a group moderator Victor W.  Pro User  says:

There's been some really good panoramas coming in from everybody and I'm really glad you've all enjoyed it. It all adds to our 'tools' of photography, so well done everyone!

Has anybody tried the second example of multi-composite imagery?
I know it's more of a pain to do, but the results are worth it.

I was going to put a secondary post up regarding 'Nodal Point' rotation, but it involves building a 'jig' for a tripod, (or worse still, buying one and they're pretty expensive, more expensive than our camera in most cases!)
If anybody is interested I'll either place a second post or give out some links for further information.

Thanks again everybody, glad you enjoyed this as much as I did.
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Gabriel Liendo says:

Installed windows on my macbook just for this, and composed a 55 MP photo (56 shots)

It was so big that lightroom wouldn't take it. :/ so I had to resize it.

Pelham Parkway [pan]

here's the half sized edited and compressed jpeg if anyone want's it
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Slow dancin' says:

Victor, yes I have tried the second method. Again a big thank you.

Pine tree ICE stitch
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Victor W. is a group moderator Victor W.  Pro User  says:

Gabriel - very impressive, didn't realise it would run on the Mac.
That was one of the problems - huge filesizes, crashed my PC several times!

Hello Mr Wetzel (Slow dancing) - You must be the first to have tried this.
Very well done on this picture, it did stitch together very nicely.
I really like the added perspective to it all and the colours are gorgeous!
Thanks to you too for your thank you, very appreciated
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Gabriel Liendo says:

ICE doesn't run on Mac OS, so I had to defile my macbook and install windows :). after I got the tiff file i worked on lightroom for mac os.
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iron05sol says:

Here's my first try using ICE. I liked the examples so well I had to give it a try.

Missouri landscape by iron05sol

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mlp_photo says:

I'm addicted to ICE, what an amazing little program. Tried it out on my brothers balcony

Richmond train station (Melbourne skyline) by mlp_photo

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JAMES MARSHALL D is a group moderator JAMES MARSHALL D  Pro User  says:

FOREST PANORAMA HDR

Thanks (again) for the tutorial, Victor. Did a couple & some of them are just too big & take "years" to upload on Flickr :) I`m looking 4ward to take a really good 1.
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em'n'm  Pro User  says:

First one!! Went ott with 10 photos in all. I did one with just 6 of them but preferred the whole lot!

Cairngorm Mountains by em'n'm

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skipjack2001  Pro User  says:

I've been having so much fun with ICE that I thought I'd revive this old thread:

DSCF2077_stitch
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Gabriel Liendo says:

I meant to write this for ages, but I kept forgetting.

I found a free program for us mac and linux people that does the same as ICE, but also gives a lot more control and is able to do HDR as well.

The program is called Hugin and it can be found here hugin.sourceforge.net/ cheers.
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navinchotia is a group moderator navinchotia says:

Thanks Victor ! You hv been like a big brother for members of this forum. We really appreciate and value your contribution.

It was a perfet 'How to' guide for composite imagery. You hv made the job very simple, so i am ready with my first attempt.

Appropriate additions from mauritius as well. Thanks guys.

night_stitch
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Barry Carpenter  Pro User  says:

My lastest image. Alms Houses at Stafford, England.

stafford027
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alpha prime says:

Today made my first attempts with the program :) for a frst time like the results

Plovdiv end to end by alpha prime

this one is my hometown and this shows the sky over rowing channel
skiess by alpha prime

Hope you like it .
Cheers :)

Ps:: will this soft work good enough on asus eee pc 701 4gb
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Transmigration says:

I like the second one,,,,,,nice skyline.
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dwright1959 says:

Beautiful pictures! I wish I had the time and patience to do this.
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Mauritius100 says:

It isn't as time consuming as you might think - the hardest bit is remembering to try it - and remembering to set the exposure and focus manually.
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Transmigration says:

Iv tried installing Hugin on my lappy but could'nt find the exe file,,,, anyone who knows how to get around this??????/
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amitsarkar says:

Finally! Managed to install ICE, and here's my very first panorama!!!

panorama by amitsarkar

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Transmigration says:

Got my first pano on Hugin on Ubuntu 9.10, 5 pic pano.

Transmigration
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Slow dancin' says:

Nine shots merged together with Microsoft ICE.
It's 208 degrees x 45 degrees. One frame almost fit the dock house.
Lake Hancock
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