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It might be interesting to see how the PX 600 film turns out like, its not so sensitive as the 100 apparently. The film can only get better from now on :)
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I agree I am not impressed. Seems like a very arty look which is fine but would get old after a while and wouldonly have a limited market within a limited market which is not what they need. I will buy some 600 when it comes out as support. But my fuji peel apart on my 4X5 is still tops for me. Disappointing really...this film looks soo finicky
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I agree it's expensive, but TIP are a small operation and the costs of setting up their operations and developing the film from scratch will have been ASTRONOMICAL!
Anyway, appreciate people have different views on the results of the new film. But one thing I think everyone agrees on is that it's wonderful that polaroid film has a future.
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I think all films (integral pack film, slide, print, medium format, large format, etc.) contribute to an ever evolving visual vocabulary for what photography is able to express to the viewer. While the results achieved by PX100 may be only similar in some capacities to those of previous Polaroid products, it will undoubtedly allow for a new range of possibilities.
I myself bought 3 packs of it from the online store yesterday and am anxiously awaiting their arrival. I think they will allow for some great summer fun, popping out of my Time-Zero OneStep.
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I've been following TIP for about a year, and have been learning as much as I can about the history of Polaroid in the last few weeks. I think this first release is really monumental - considering the size of their operation, the mere fact that they've been able to even produce a product, regardless of its limitations, is just amazing to me, especially given the state of the economy in many countries.
I decided to purchase a few packs myself, and also scooped up a classic SX-70 off the 'bay this week. I'm very glad and appreciative to those who have posted pictures of their initial tests with the new PX 100 - I will certainly be using all of that information when I finally get my hands on the film and shoot some around here.
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Yeah for like $22 a pop, way too expensive and not really good results.
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I think that everyone is still getting their sea legs.... The longer you have been shooting traditional Polaroid film, the more you become intuitive about how it behaves. I am certain this will happen with the new film as well. The question is, are you willing to spend the time, energy and money to get to know the new film?
...think about how many no so great Polaroids you have too...not every shot is a gem.
I am really excited...and can't wait to see what folks come up with to harness the new film!
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The quality of traditionnal polaroids, and I'm speaking here in the name of many fans, is mainly due to it's imperfections...Most of us could just grab a digital camera and obtain a clean result.
Remember the defaults of time zero...how beautiful they are.
Same with fade to black. You just never really know what you'll get.
I started of with 600 last summer, but it's become way to "clean" for me. Now I just want some film with caracter...fade to black, artistic tz that turns green within an hour, old time zéro with unpridictive results, and....PX 100...because it looks gorgeous when managed by expert hands...just go through the test shots on impossible project website...
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I gotta say, the first flush seems to be right up my walley. what I like most about analogue photography is experimenting and going from fade 2 black to this doesn't feel like no stretch to me.
well, I'm pretty excited anyway~
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noahandrewkolb [deleted] says:
misskris you know nothing.
has anyone seen any of the shots taken with the people who were selected to shoot it first? they are beautiful.
everyone who says that this film is not worth it must surly be getting their "sea legs" now go take some awesome polaroids.
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If they'd put out something equal to Instax film, sharp, accurate colors...what good would it have been? They'd just be competing with a film making monster.
One of my concerns early on was that the product would be too good.
I like what they've done. I like the sensitive nature of the film. It adds another dimension to the experience. If I wanted sharp, predictable perfection, I'd shoot digital.
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Haha Well said Sir! I don't think you can get your sea legs if you have never been in the ocean so to speak. Tee Hee... :-)
It seems like some of the folks whining and complaining have more experience making Poladroids rather than actual Polaroids.
I just think it's kind of funny that people are already talking smack about the new film and they haven't even played with it yet. Way to armchair quarterback.
I'm just incredibly excited that my ND filter performed the way I wanted it to with controlling the exposure...and I am way excited to try and make a super sexy red filter to see what that does to the tones. Yay!
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even the process of getting those sea legs is an exciting one...sure it happens that there are shots you would not show to anyone, but that can happen with every other film too.
for myself I can say, it is a beautiful film to play with and I am nowhere near the end of trying all the possibilities after shooting my first pack.
true, the sensitivity to temperature and light makes it a bit difficult to handle at times but honestly, if you wanna take some quick snapshots without thinking, go and shoot digital. it's cheaper too in the long run.
but this film has a lot more artistic potential and that is important for me as an artist.
(I also like it more than the TZartistic, which is driving me crazy with its green tones)
another YAY for this film. I am super happy with it.
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I too have been a bit underwhelmed by the new film and annoyed by the pricing, but guess what? That's the way it is. I do not believe TIP has ever promised a return to the glory days of the old films and with today's production / manufacturing considerations, I am surprised the cost is below $25. What they have promised is renewed life to instant photography and as we have seen, a new learning curve!
The way I see it, it is a better thing that my SX-70 has a new lease on life and not be relegated to a shelf as a talking piece with friends. Now, I just need to get some new film and see what wonders appear (or don't!). ;)
Thank you.
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ja | castillo edited this topic 26 months ago.
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The pricing can indeed be a bit steep, but I guess I just have to try harder in making every shot a keeper :-P
Hope to read some nice tips here since you've all tested this film.
Can't wait to try this film!
tj
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Just bought 3 packs for 60 pounds yesterday,,,, so expensive but
worth it thu, and now ive just got to try them out,,,,woop woop!!
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red filter?! ofcourse! I've been so excited that it didn't even come to mind that it's a bw film and I can play with colored gels~ sweet!
though I've spent all on film now. hm... maybe a overhead sheet and some markers could work?
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The whole point of instant film, now, is its opportunities for unique and creative expression.
There's no way that any instant analog film camera will have the convenience and immediacy to rival digital, so why bother?
Impossible seem to have realized this, and so far have pitched their films to a more experimental, visual arts oriented crowd. Which I think can still be a significant market, just clearly not a mass market.
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just bought 4 packs and I am anxious to see what happens. I am one of those "blow a lot of film before you learn" Polaroid users.
sigh...
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Looking at what was published the film has a lot of imperfections. On one hand, this is what I would look for...On the other hand, the first flush looks like it has really too much imperfections. Something a bit more balanced would just make it a perfect film to me... I will buy to support TIP, but I hope the second flush will be better.
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This film has indeed the looks for very artistic work. Just wonderful, can't wait to test it myself.
I'm sure they will produce some other film that is more balanced in the near future. Also looking forward to the color films !
But for now, this is just such a rare product. Gives amazing results, and sometimes lesser results...but I guess that's just the way it is with this first flush!
From one point of view it totally failed. From what I've seen and read this film is definitely not 100asa. It's much more sensitive to light.
Also the "Silver Shade" makes me think of a entirely different look than the px100 has. Px100 looks more sepia rather than b/w silver shaded. But that would be just nitpicking.
I just love the inconsistency people say this film has. It brings back the fun old day's with photography.
I think I will like this product even more than I thought I would!
tj
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it's not that the ASA is wildly incorrect -- it DOES expose correctly inside the camera -- but the blue "opacity" shield that's supposed to protect the image from additional exposure while it's developing is not 100% opaque -- so some ambient light gets through unless you're fast to cover it.
but the trouble is not with the ASA, as far as i can tell.
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I'm rapidly covering my images and my first shot, I even set up a "darkbag feedbag" for my SX-70 to spit into, using an old black plastic film bag and some black gaffa tape.
The ISO is really not ISO100 in my opinion of shooting ISO 100 film in similar light for the last year or two with my LF camera. The shutter speeds aren't the same and the results aren't anywhere near similar. If it was truly an ISO 100/150 film, you'd need the ND filter over the electronic eye and I've learned that's not the case - you still need to have it naked or with a clear cover for it to expose near-correctly.
The overall look of overexposure is more like what we photonerds call fogging. It's a more or less uniform white mist. That is different to what I've noticed in my shooting and I realise that and I know that's not what I'm getting when I say it overexposes more like 600 film did.
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TIP PX100 has a mind of it's own, you have to fight it.
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akki14 - if I read your post correctly, you have removed the shaded piece that was over the "eye" on your SX-70 in order to shoot 600 film? And you are shooting "naked" with the PX100 film?
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ja | castillo - That's correct. I actually took the trouble of putting it back on since the film was advertised as being closer to ISO 150 like the original SX-70 films. I found it was grossly overexposing everything so I took it off again (which is what you're suppose to do for using 600 film in an SX-70) and it works better (thought I still need to turn the dial slightly to darken for most shots).
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Well, that is nice to know! I too have removed my "eye" cover for shooting w/ 600 and after reading all I have about the new PX100, thought that it might help shooting the new film in this same way. Seems that might be of some help. Now I just need to get some of the new stuff!
:)
Thanks for the info!
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I am actually quite upset, but i think my relative new-ness to working with an sx-70 could be part of the problem. I just know that I tried all the tips i could find and wasted an entire pack in the process. I am not happy at all. i have one pack left and I'm considering selling it and probably won't buy anymore, at least not right now. I knew it would be quirky but I didn't know it would require exact, perfect conditions to get the most basic of results. It's just frustrating.:(
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Jæɱs [deleted] says:
I AM impressed :D
Don't fight it... You'll lose
Flow with it, respect it, learn from it and you'll love it
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{finnrose}
I agree. My first six shots are very disapointing. I've had better results with a sh*tty pinhole camera :-D
Maybe the last two shots will make it worthwhile ;-)
I must say though that I'm glad TIP is giving us the opportunity to enjoy this new film. I blame it to my own lack of knowledge on the subject considering I've seen some pretty good images on this site!
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EXACTLY Schoedinger's cat.
You can't fight it. You gotta dance with it.
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i had better results with my second pack, and really, it's starting to grow on me. I really wish I could figure out how to improve the contrast in my images. I see such great work here. i know it's possible. I hope more people start attaching their process to their images. Though I think temperature variation is such a huge factor that achieving consistent results or a spicific asthetic may be nearly impossible.
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"I hope more people start attaching their process to their images."
I second that. at this stage every information is good information :)
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I like what I've achieved so far with the PX100 - I did read up on the techniques that others have posted on Flickr beforehand. If I didn't, I don't think I'd have gotten the images I did.
Believe me, whilst I was waiting for my order of 5 PX100 packs to arrive (ordered 5 packs to justify the shipping costs), I was upset to read up that people were disappointed with the film - I guess my "going in position" was "not expecting much", so ended up being quite pleased with my results.
I wouldn't want to shoot on PX100 all the time as I classify it "high-maintenance" like the FadeToBlack film.
My results are in my PX100 set with descriptions of conditions and setup for each photo: I find that the taped darkslide to the front of camera (rommel©'s workaround) + ND filter + tripod + developed inside a book is what works best for me for indoor and outdoor shots.
Hope this helps.
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miss_yasmina edited this topic 26 months ago.
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I don't see a need for ND filter, just follow the reccomended temp and light suggestions for developing (not too cool, and shield from light)
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Nobody "needs" anything special like an ND filter to enjoy this film, but I think its interesting to see how you can push this film to its limits. People are using filters, baking it, freezing it, manipulating it, etc.
The more data we all have, the more inspired we all become! Look at what people have done with this film in two weeks! Amazing!
All I know is once the UPS man finally delivers my package today...I have a hot date with a red filter. (Prob tomorrow)
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Aah I'll have to try it without the ND filter then... I've tried keeping it warm in books, in heated (by hairdryer) pockets, in unheated pockets and put one in the oven even, but not tried taking the ND filter off... Will try that next : )
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I really was excited about this film, however, after trying every fix I got no usable images at all. I will wait to order another pack when they figure some issues out.
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I made a black bag from 1.3mil trash bags layed several times, it's light tight except for the opening... I eject the photo right into this bag and then breathe into it to heat it up really good.
It seems to work well, and too much breathing will bring out the semi-solarized look with red and orange if you want that.
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I salute the TIP team, even as I cringe at the cost per shot, which may or may not give me a result I can live with. But I've followed the project from the beginning, bought the T-shirts, bought other film, etc, so as to make my small 'investment' and give a 'thumbs up' for a future with instant film. I'm guessing they will bring more mature products to the marketplace.
Meanwhile, I'm going to stop trying to make polaroid film in my kitchen sink and in the microwave. I think spending ~$20 a pack is better value. ;-)
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noahandrewkolb [deleted] says:
lol.. i kinda wana just say everyone who gets blanks has no clue what they are doing.. haha
and if you are a true artist trying to get your work sold the prices for the film are totally justifiable..
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wow, you actually just said that.
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Very good set and I like the use of notes to document your process.
Well I'm SOL then.
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