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Annie Leibovitz at the Brooklyn Museum (Part 1)
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What Annie Leibovitz does best she does very well. Collected in the current show at the Brooklyn Museum, Annie Leibovitz: A Photographer’s Life, 1990-2005, her signature large-scale portraits of celebrity artists, musicians, actors & politicians are conceptually & technically brilliant, often psychologically riveting.
So why do so many of them piss me off?
Leibovitz is an heir to the great 19th- & early-20th-century portrait painters -- especially, I think, to fellow high-priced American, John Singer Sargent , whose meticulous depictions similarly flattered his sitters without sacrificing a certain clear-eyed realism. Like Sargent before her, Leibovitz has mastered the art of win-win artistic collaboration. Her portraits claim integrity by making their subjects uniquely human, yet they also confer pop mythological status. They can be astute, even searching, but there are few surprises in these photographic transactions. The magazines for which Leibovitz made the pictures -- Rolling Stone, Vogue and Vanity Fair – were & are widely understood to be pop culture’s visual publications of record. In the portraits both photographer and subjects had their eye on history. And both were eager to do what it takes to be remembered.
In 1884 the Parisian beauty Madame Gautreau had wanted to be remembered too. She allowed Sargent to paint more of her creamy white shoulders and bosom than was considered tasteful at the time. In the original painting Sargent painted one strap of her gown slipping down her shoulder. The resulting uproar was so ferocious he withdrew the painting and repainted the strap. Ostensibly to protect Mme. Gautreau, he also gave the painting a mysterioius new name before re-exhibiting it. A Portrait of Madame X is the most famous painting of Sargent’s long and distinguished career.
In our era we have Demi Moore. A second-rate actress with a pretty, if somewhat heavy-chinned, face, she arguably reached the zenith of her fame appearing on the cover of Vanity Fair in a 1991 photograph by Leibovitz. In the picture she’s calmly naked, hugely pregnant and glamorous – an impeccably styled & accessorized late 20th-century fertility goddess. (Hear her roar.)
With her portraits Leibovitz plays the celebrity game knowingly. She understands that today’s successful artist must not only produce work but also tirelessly market a personal mystique. In fact – judging by her own reputed $100,000-a-day fees and diva-like tantrums – Leibovitz is more than an observer of this scene; she’s herself an important player . As Sanjiv Bhattacharya noted in a recent Guardian piece on Leibovitz, “Her interest is not in the unguarded moment, but the staged moment; not the inner life, but the outer image.”
Sometimes there’s no real work behind the mystique. Leibovitz gives us the poseur as art -- the empty bombast of Julian Schnabel lounging on a settee in a paint-spattered smoking jacket; the manic idiocy of Jim Carey yawping at the camera; the grim acquisitiveness of Donald Trump with Ivana & other toys. Perhaps their vapidity is the real subject.
In other pictures Leibovitz’s strategy of ceding her frame without comment to her subjects elicits brilliance. Actors like Robert DeNiro and Al Pacino know exactly what to do. Sitting or standing against an austere grey backdrop, they project personas that will last as long as the photographs do.
Leibovitz also knows what to emphasize. She poses a younger, surprisingly tender-eyed Colin Powell stiffly at attention & lets his full-dress uniform tell the story. Decked out with medals, buttons, ribbons & epaulets, he could be a warrior from any age – a soldier of the Kaiser as seen (in color) by August Sander or, indeed, with the addition of a bronze helmet and horsehair plume, Achilles in his prime.
Leibovitz’s best portraits, it seems to me, declare their independence from the cult of personality. Feminist performance artist Karen Finley, for example, is shown from above, facedown nude on a sofa , her face invisible, turned away. Is she being seductive or is she hiding from the lens? It could be either. In performance, Finley famously shocked audiences by baring her body to elicit & comment on their complicated reactions to female sexuality. Her carefully lit nude body can certainly be seen here as a fetish. But look closer, she’s wearing lime green wool socks. A gaudy machine-made red blanket is slipping off her & onto the floor of an ordinary cluttered middle-class livingroom . Could the underground queen of fleshy polemic have simply fallen asleep at home? Is this any way to treat a star ?
Leibovitz – and her demigod subjects – come across best when she (and they) are willing to step down from Olympus. But would I like them as well if I hadn’t already glimpsed them in their glory? For example, take Leibovitz’s portrait of Mick Jagger. We’ve all seen Mick in the spotlight -- sneering & capering, his eyes flashing, a divine imp if ever there was one. Now we see him sitting quietly shirtless in a sparsely furnished hotel room. The picture was made in the last few years so Mick is definitely past 60. His hair is full & dark; his skin is smooth, his body is lean. He’s still beautiful. And he’s still helplessly vain. In the picture he’s undeniably sucking in his belly. See, stars are just people after all.
TO BE CONTD.
NOTE: I have a lot more to write & this is taking too long at a hellishly busy time in my life. I don’t want to chuck it. I need to get to my question in the 2nd graf “Why do so many of [Leibovitz’s portraits] piss me off?” The answer has to do with the rest of her show – the very large, very pretentious attempts at landscape, her photojournalism from Sarajevo, which frankly doesn’t seem very involved, & her small B & W family pictures, which focus on her parents, her children & her relationship with Susan Sontag -- & which she calls her best work. Especially these -- & what it means to exhibit them beside her better-known work. I’ll try to write this stuff soon (it was the reason I started writing in the 1st place),. Meanwhile, I’m going to post this as Part 1. Please comment. I’d love to know what you think of the Leibovitz show, or her work in general, or the ideas I’ve put down about her. What do you think?
Originally posted at 9:08PM, 10 November 2006 PST
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colorstalker edited this topic 34 months ago.
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Thank you for this very interesting critique, Tim. There's so much energy in it, so many points raised.
I wonder why I can keep going back to admire a Sargent painting, and feel boredom after awhile looking at a celebrity photo of the kind Leibovitz does. (Our nearest example of this in London is the portrait gallery off Trafalgar Square that occasionally shows life size photo portraits of famous people ). I tire very quickly looking at photographs anyway, but the cult of celebrity that does exist in the states disturbs me a lot. Today, in the Guardian newspaper, a photograph of Hilary Clinton shows every wrinkle and ounce of foundation on her tired face.
I think the difference between painted portraits-- John Singer Sargent being an excellent example- and Leibovitz' is the scope allowed in paintings for imagination. We are never fooled that the real person is in front of us, yet photography does invite us to feel there in the portrait physically present.
And this is where I think the "too much information" in a photograph conflicts with our imaginative need to understand a person, or to visually confront them in our imaginations. I can go back to painted portraits because this process always automatically starts for me.
Think of Rembrandt's great portraits; Velasquez' portrait of the Pope.
But time will tell with Liebovitz' work. Why should Demi Moore's portrait matter in 50 years time ? I don't think it will. And, as America continues to doubt itself more and more in the world post 9/11, maybe it's cult of celebrity will look more and more vacuous even to itself.
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Yellowhammer edited this topic 36 months ago.
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I like Annie Liebovitz, but she ultimately disappoints me the same way Ansel Adams does. I don't really see the "character" in her portraits as so many seem to. What I see is Annie Liebovitz. Her portrait of Demi Moore was really nice I thought, but by the time it appeared on Vanity Fair, nude pregnant portraiture had already become a cliché in the photography and art worlds, and it pissed me off that everyone thought that it was so innovative.
I appreciate technical excellence and who could question that quality in either Annie or Ansel. But when you see a million of them all at once, they look pretty damned sterile.
It's my belief that in portraiture as well as landscape photography, each person or scene should be approached as a unique subject, and treated that way. And while having a style of your own is unavoidable, but when everything is required to conform to your style, you have nothing to distinguish you from the guy in the Sears photo studio.
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I took a quick gander at this book and thought it was gross and narcissistic of her to show her giving birth to her (3 inseminated) children and to show an icon like Sontag in such unforgiving circumstance which should have remained private and which anyone who has known a cancer victim would know they have no power to make rational decisions or to override others who are in a less vulnerable or more aggreessive frame of mind....so I veto these shots. the rest we've seen already.
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I don't have much of an opinion about her work which mostly indicates it hasn't made a particularly strong impression on me either way. (Picture a shrug of the shoulders). I very much enjoy your writing though, Tim. I'm eager to read the rest of the story.
Posted 36 months ago.
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Yellow, I think your point about "too much information" gets to the heart of the issue. If, as glblanchard notes, a photographer commands the technical firepower of a Leibovitz or an Adams he or she can't go too far wrong. The power of the medium is itself awesome. Leibovitz knows it & plays with it & sometimes even subverts it in an arty sort of way,. But in the end she mainly rides the photo power without taking full responsibility, it seems to me. Unlike a painting (or a different kind of photograph) in which the viewer has to fill in meaning, these large portraits have so MUCH detail in them anybody can think anything they want to. This lets Leibovitz off the hook.
The best example is perhaps the show's most timely picture. It shows W & the war cabinet -- Rumsfeld, Cheney, Powell, Condi Rice, George Tenet & Andrew Card, I think -- in the Oval Office on the eve of the Iraq war. It's beautifully composed & lit, recalls an old master. And there they are at the high tide of their power. Bush is wearing a big Texas-style USA belt buckle & everybody has the little US flags in their lapels. It's an extraordinary picture. They are ON TOP OF THE WORLD. The swaggering body language -- Condi's version is tight & steely -- the self-confidence; you're practically knocked flat by the reek of testosterone.
I read somewhere that at that session Powell, a dutiful actor, asked Leibovitz what she wanted the photo to say & she answered with one word, "Resolve." Well, to my eye it reads more like Hubris. I remember it looked that way to me too when I 1st saw it . In fact, I greeted it with the most violent expletives I could come up with, as I'm sure a lot of other people did. But what if the neocons had been right? What if we had found nuclear missiles aimed at us? What if the troops had been greeted as liberators? What if a just & stable democracy had quickly sprung up after the invasion? W & co. would look like very smart then, yes, in fact resolute, like wise warriors, wouldn't they? The photograph would make us proud then, become a patriotic icon like Washington crossing the Delaware.
See, but Leibovitz had it covered. All that information, all that stopped, miniscule detail, can cut in any direction. Leibovitz was just recording the way light bounced off the moment into her magic lens. And -- if the war went south, as it did, & all the lies came out, & the whole world came to know the invasion was a debacle -- well, she had that covered too. Donald Rumsfeld is wearing a band aid on his pinky. See how the mighty ....etc.
I need to go to bed now. Tomorrow I want to respond to Catt & finally get to the "personal" B & W pix. Cause that's the only part of the show that really relates in any important way to what I'm trying to do in my own work.
P.S. I thought it would be cool to SHOW you the Bush war cabinet pic but couldn't find it in a quick search. Does anybody know where it might by jpegged on the web?
Originally posted 36 months ago.
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colorstalker edited this topic 36 months ago.
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She has pissed me off too. Before I saw the exhibit and before I knew anything about her except her celebrity photos. She pissed me off because somehow she got in the realm of the "art" world with these portraits and I never saw much in them or cared much about them ever, they always utterly bored me. I mean she is known by many people who could careless about photography and why? I see tons of great photos photos in Vogue, Rolling Stone and all of them and I don't see anything that brings her celebrity photos above them.
What interested me is that some of her photos were out of focus. I do not mean the nature ones but I mean the celebrity portraits. Like the Leonard Dicaprio photo, beautiful photo of him but it was not spot on in focus. And it seems like it was an accident because I didn't see any reason why it should have not been spot on at least on his eyes, it had a very shallow DOF but there was nothing in the photo that was spot on. There were a few portraits like this, they were not out of focus enough for any effect either. I would walk close up to it and it would just seem like my eyes were off. While other portraits were spot on in focus, crystal pristenely in focus. I was noticing that through out and wondered if that mattered at all, if it was noticed and if she noticed it and cared. That is the thing about film, it is hard to check that at the time of taking it, and in that dicaprio photo session that might have been her favorite photo while not spot on in focus, the other ones may have been spot on in focus but not as good photo overall. With digital you can zoom in on the screen and see if what you want to be spot on in focus is and then immediately try again if not. It is interesting.
It didn't really disturb me as much in the dicaprio photo but some of the other ones did disturb me as their focus. The one of the white old lady next to the one with the black old lady disturbed me a bit. The white old lady was clearly not in focus in a way that almost disturbed my eyes. While the black old lady was perfectly in focus. I could not see a reason why she would have on purpose wanted the white old lady to be just a smidgon out of focus.
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I didn't notice the focus problem Schveckle describes but that's no doubt due to my tired eyes. My guess is Leibovitz wanted these as sharp as she could make them. There's very little hidden or obscured in the big portraits. Almost no shadows, bright light everywhere. And they were meant to be seen BIG. After all, a Rolling Stone or Vanity Fair cover is a big use to start with. And I'm sure in her mind's eye Leibovitz always saw them much bigger than that.
These pictures are imposing objects. If I were clever, I could probably find the dimensions in BM's online catalog, but I'm guessing 8 or 10 feet in their longest dimension. That's not uncommon for museum or major gallery displays of photographs, but think about what it means. I've never owned or rented a studio, never felt I had space to even STORE, let alone hang, work of this size. I've always been intimidated by the logistics, the frames, the mattes, the plexiglass, the details of trucking & moving. I confess this is a personal issue -- probably some combination of modesty, self-doubt & fear of appearing ridiculous (also years of exclusion/self-exclusion from big cities & self-consciously artistic circles) -- but I've generally couched my refusal in idealistic terms. The power of the message is in the image, not its presentation. If the work is good, a photographer shouldn't NEED this kind of display . So I told myself (however, for more than a decade my work & my shows consisted almost exclusively of slides -- tiny, transportable image-jewels that a projector could render BIG on a screen or wall -- so perhaps I didn't really believe it).
Does size matter? Is it the image & the idea(s) evoked by the image that we love or is it the big gorgeous THING we can walk around & peer at & talk about & watch the light change on -- like any other finely crafted aesthetic object? Good question. My experience of this show -- which intersperses the big dazzling hip celebrity color prints we've been talking about with Leibowitz's small B & W (8" X 10" or smaller generally) Leica shots of parents, partner, kids, etc. -- left me with some very unsettled feelings. Not that Leibovitz had the courage to own up to what mingling these two aesthetics in this way might actually mean to the viewer. She just wanted it all as usual. Megawatts & megabucks & artistic immortality too. But here's how it came across to me.
Why should I look at these B & W pictures of ordinary people doing ordinary things? I have to get up really close. I have to put on my glasses. Who ARE these people? Oh, that's Susan Sontag? Now I'm interested. But she doesn't LOOK like the world class intellectual Susan Sontag. That's not the passionate writer/moralist I've admired all thse years, surely. And who are these old people? Oh the artists' parents? They're not beautiful. Their flesh sags. The babies ARE beautiful. Well, my baby was beautiful too. My niece is beautiful. The beach shots are nice. They remind me of that wonderful vacation on the Cape. But oh I'm getting tired. These are about cancer. They're about aging. They're about sadness. The B & W is depressing. Yes, very nice, very artistic. Now, who's that across the room, with the dreamy blue eyes? Is that Leonardo DiCaprio?
Your turn.
Originally posted 36 months ago.
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colorstalker edited this topic 36 months ago.
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frankly you are giving her way too much importance here - the BM needs customers and this is one way to get them to schlep out to Bklyn - less is more is my motto (edit edit edit...) ms liebovitz is just not that great, she's just "known"...now the Helen Levitt showen.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helen_Levittshow at the Met a decade or so ago was DA BOMB and a revelation to me since I had never heard of her and this was pre-digital times...
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catt55 edited this topic 36 months ago.
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Catt, I agree with your assessment of Leibovitz & particularly with your assessment of Helen Levitt. I do think some of L's pictures may live on, the way some movies(another flawed, collaborative art) live on though they're clearly "just not that great." And I think examining that is interesting. Luckily it's not my job to put Leibovitz in a hierarchy of greatness.
What interests me is that her Leica stuff leaves me so completely cold. And it's not just that she has seduced us into looking at it by dazzling us with the big set pieces. That's creepy but I'm game to give her personal pix a try. And it's not that they're bad as pictures. They're not. They're well-made, visually satisfying in a venerable tradition. It's that for me they lack all conviction -- not as life (I believe Leibovitz loves her parents& children & that Sontag was the great love of her life) -- but as photographs. It's as though she's showing us the road she didn't take. The one she walked a few years at SF Art Institute in the 60s. The one she turned away from onto another road that challenged her & rewarded her & made her world famous. Why can't she admit that this kind of personal reportage is what she DOESN'T do. Maybe she could have done it, but she didn't. There are people who take this kind of picture (Eugene Richards comes to mind) who sear your soul. Leibovitz is taking snaps in her spare time. In the end this is her scrapbook. But she's not my friend so why the hell should I care?
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But she's not my friend so why the hell should I care?
Oh, my, Tim, why so much emotion about her/her work? That's what I want to know.
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Well I am nosy so her personal snaps interested me way more then anything else in the exhibit. I could care less about those celebrity shots, although I am still interested why some were out of focus and if she considers it a mistake. I would, even though I might think it is still a great portrait, the dicaprio one, I would still be mad that I did not get the focus spot on, on his eyes.
Anyway still those bore bore bore bore bore me and the personal ones interested me a bit more, they were not that great but they kept my interest a bit.
Anyway as far as her getting an exhibit at the BM well that is no surprise, in general who gets exhibits and solo shows in galleries around NYC etc. as far as just plane art is concerned is hard to make rhyme or reason out of it. There is always something more then just the visual art that gets any artists a showing, whether it is great shmoozing, knowing the right people, great promotion of one's self on and on. The actual art part of it has the least to do with why most get exhiblts. If you walk around the Brooklyn musuem someone has a photo of the carribean parade here in Brooklyn up on the wall. Was that the best photo they could find of the parade? Give me a break.
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I haven't seen the exhibit but did read about it online & saw a few
examples posted. I'm sure that barely scratches the surface of
on the scene impact (or lack thereof.)
I consider Leibovitz a talented journeyman who is no doubt well-connected for business purposes.
A question; has any other contemporary photographer drawn as
much ire from you?
In terms of interest and statement about the human condition, I'd put
locaburg up against her any day, IMHO.
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Emotion? Ire? I really wasn't aware of that. I'll think about it & get back to you. I'm out of town at the moment coming to you via dialup.
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yes, CA has put her finger on something important. This is a question from a real friend.
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But she's not my friend so why the hell should I care?
Oh, my, Tim, why so much emotion about her/her work? That's what I want to know.
Maybe part of it is a resentment of the way celebrities, and successful people generally, expect everyone else to be interested in their pronouncements, doings, artistic output etc.
A good part of that resentment might be based on wanting that same attention for oneself. I'd certainly be willing to admit that was true in my own case. Apologies, Tim, if you find my suggestion insulting or critical at all. I don't mean it as a criticism - it's something that seems entirely natural to me.
Originally posted 36 months ago.
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dubmill edited this topic 36 months ago.
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Dubmill, That's of course what it is. And I don't feel insulted or criticized. I'm well aware of my resentments & my childlike hunger for recognition, & have been for a long time. But if you read over what I wrote I think you'll find there's a lot of admiration for Leibovitz too. I admire boldness & self-confidence. I admire realism. I admire technical competence; I admire the ability to read & handle other people; I admire the gift of making oneself memorable. And , yes, I resent all these things, too in direct proportion to my own self-doubt .
It also should be noted BTW that I admire Leibovitz's eye. I seem to be the only one here in fact who doesn't think she's a phony maker of cliches. I don't think that. She's over celebrated sure, but she's a real photographer. She's not breaking new ground but how many people are? She's working with the same tools as the rest of us. I don't resent her good eye. Maybe because I don't doubt my own eye either.
Resentment? Wanting attention? You bet. I'm getting stronger, more secure every day but for me that old stuff is never going to go away completely. The only thing that troubles me, frankly, is that I haven't learned to hide it better.
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colorstalker edited this topic 36 months ago.
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It is childlike, yet I find it impossible to shake.
You would think that the knowledge alone that the human race and
its history and culture, in its entirety, will at some point be DUST, or
less than dust, would be enough. That defeats the need to be part
of some pantheon of what is remembered - because it is so clearly
only a temporary house of cards.
Then there's what I feel at a deeper level about what is important
in life and what isn't. Loved ones, basically.
Yet still there's that impulse towards recognition and success. I
think the worst thing is I simultaneously think of it as worthless
and valuable - valuable perhaps mainly because other people have
it and I don't. It is so childlike. A feeling of being left out.
I'm glad that you are getting stronger and more secure. In some
ways that is true for me (perhaps a general trend), but I feel like
I'm getting more twisted and bitter, at certain moments anyway.
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dubmill edited this topic 36 months ago.
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The original question was why so much of Annie's work pisses you off, and now you're suggesting that it has something to do with your own ego. I think almost anything that raises that much ire in us has something to do with our own egos. But in this case and in many other cases, it's more a defense of the art itself. It's in the best interest of Vogue and Vanity Fair to have us believe that this is the ultimate in portraiture. I felt the same (only much, much deeper) at the way William Eggleston was almost worshipped by John Szarkowski at MOMA. Unfortunately we have to live with this. In our lifetimes, Annie Lebovitz will be considered THE portrait photographer, and Eggleston will be the "father of color photography" much the same way a guy named Scribe was considered by the critics to be superior to Shakespeare in the early 1800s. Ever hear of that guy? We have to live with it. People call the musicals of Andrew Lloyd Webber, opera because they have very little spoken dialogue. This despite the fact there is no operatic form, and no musical development. But the masses go to the theatre thinking they are witnessing genius (another grossly overused term). It's mostly hype. Think back to the 80s art world. Gallery owners outdid one another to find the newest phenom. If they were different (a graffiti artist like Basquiat, for example) if they could act outrageous, (Jeff Koons), they might be able to get them on Letterman. That would sell paintings. If they were gay, they could introduce them to Warhol, and they had an instant career and a six figure price tag on their works. What the hell is that? The point is, we have no control over celebrity, and when you think about it, we could do much worse than Annie Lebovitz.
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glblanchard edited this topic 36 months ago.
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Gblanchard. Thank you. You’re absolutely right & you’ve expressed it brilliantly. That’s how the art world works. I mean, Jeff Koons??? Please, give me a break. But, that said, in my case the ire (not my word ) DOES come from what Dubmill is talking about. Otherwise, why am I not just cynical & amused? In fact, I wrote a long reply to his post this afternoon, but the network had gone out at my workplace so I couldn’t post it. Here’s what I wrote.
Dubmill, I can't tell you how much I appreciate your honesty. You will have missed it, but I went back & edited out a paragraph above [now 22 hours ago] from what I originally wrote the day before. The edited graf was about the self-destructiveness, expressed & abetted by addiction, which nearly killed me 25 years ago & kept me from even getting started in the real world (by that I mean the world outside myself) till my mid 30s & the subsequent self-destruction, & self-doubt that has continued right up to the present . I thought. No one needs to know this. And it's true, no one does. But I have to tell you since you had the guts to bring it up. I'm just like you. Yes, I'm getting stronger, but I can go "twisted & bitter" in an instant. I believe that for me there has been modest progress in the right direction. But the feelings will never ever go away. So be it.
Anybody who has seriously committed himself to psychotherapy -- or just taken a hard look at the world we live in -- knows "childlike" doesn't go away. In any case we're just a bunch of hyped-up sparsely hairy primates being pushed around by chemicals & hormones we don't begin to understand. And yeah, it ends in dust (this would be a good time to make a joke if I could think of one).
One of the things I learned in my last run of psychotherapy was how invested I had become in the tirades, the screeds, the violent heart-pounding indictments of the world's perfidy & injustice. God, those were my finest hours. I was TALENTED at understanding how fucked up things are. And they ARE!! (gblanchard, you are right). But -- at the same time – all this self-serving nonsense was really not aimed at me. Or, as a friend once told me, “They’re DOING it, but they’re not necessarily doing it to YOU.” So I decided to stop wasting so much energy in ranting. I decided instead to try to just start showing up consistently for my work. Just do the next fucking thing (except when I can't, which happens). Or to put it more accurately, don't NOT show up because of other people & their fucked-upness. Do the work, go to the opening, enter the contest, take the job. Say yes. The other people don’t know what I’m going through; they can't know what I'm feeling. Most of the time they probably aren't seeing past their own stuff anyway (we have that in common). So that was the 1st thing.
And the 2nd thing was to stop feeling bad because no one sees me, no one intuits my uniqueness, no one helps me, no one makes a special effort to come out and INVITE ME IN. After all, why should they? Maybe my mother should have. Maybe my father should have. Yeah, they should have. But they didn't. So I have to walk in on my own. And half the time I'm paralyzed by my fear & my self-doubt. So what? Take the action -- because the world of words & images really IS the place I belong -- & let go of the results. Well, try to let go...
A word more on Leibovitz. Her show probably intrigued me precisely because it's a kind of mirror image version of what we're talking about. She's the success, the famous one, the anointed, the world trotter, the zillionaire & she's feeling UNSEEN. I'm not just this big celebrity shooter, she's saying. Look at my intimate Leica work . See I take pictures to express my soul, not just to get on the cover of Rolling Stone. I do landscapes, reportage, I photograph my lover, my children, my parents. Look at my life! In a weird way it's the opposite of what I feel. She's saying, I'm in a box. Everybody thinks they know me & they don’t. Let me OUT! And I’m saying, I'm outside & no one knows who I am. Let me IN!
Can I feel mercy for Annie Leibovitz because she feels she's misunderstood? Well, not exactly… But you get the idea…
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Tim, I really could read your writing all day long. Yes, I agree the world of words and images really is the place you belong. [Furthermore I think the AND part of that world is where you might think of putting some increased effort. That's perhaps a niche just made for you.]
This thread is really quite marvelous in a whirlwind kind of way, and I think you wrapped it up quite brilliantly. I don't think I would have made the connections you've made about her Leica images and I wonder if she would agree with you or declare you have misunderstood her profoundly. Mostly, though, there's something wonderful about the fact that her exhibit set off such a deep response in you. Seems to me that touching someone at the core is the best thing any work of art can do.
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Amen. (On behalf of the Less-is-More Dept.)
I think we may be over-thinking things a bit. But just observing this conversation is more fun than many of us have on a regular basis.
p.s. Mary Virginia Swanson, who has snared me with her charm more than any instructor ever has, says images AND words is all the rage at the moment.
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Sontag published "On Photography" in 1977. Had she already
met Leibovitz at that time?
Imagine the influence these two strong cultural figures had on each other, the give and take dynamic.
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I've not seen the exhibit, but just read through this thread & all the interesting discussion... it seems like there's SO much Annie L. stuff in the air right now, she seems to be everywhere I turn (was looking at her "Women" book at my sister's over christmas, there's some PBS program about her on tomorrow night, etc) -- a friend noted that there's this burst of stuff being exhibited just after Susan Sontag passed away, and wondered if there might be a correlation?
I've never spent that much time thinking about Leibovitz' work in an artistic sense -- it seems to be that she's a professional photographer, hired primarily to take flattering portraits, and she does that exceedingly well. I can't think of a single image of hers, off the top of my head, that I'd want to actually own a print of, but that's not really their purpose, is it?
and as for her casual at-home snaps -- I've not seen them yet, so will have to reserve judgement, but I would guess they'd be interesting simpyl to see what her eye does when everything ISN'T perfectly controlled in the studio...?
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