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"Stamp Visible"

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Jitterousperth  Pro User  says:

Dear all,

I have a few adjustment layers upon the background image, usually for most of my image I use Shift+Ctrl+Alt+E for the shortcut of Stamp Visible and most of the time works perfect.Only for this image as you can see the different one is from using Stamp Visible and converted to JPEG while the other one is simply Print Screen from the original Psd image...one is brighter (psd Original) and one is darker (losing part of the colors after using Stamp Visible)

After Stamp Visible:
puppy darker

The original Psd Image:
Puppy Bright

As for the original psd file can be downloaded with this url:
www.newasiatrading.com.hk/puppy.psd

Is there any way to achieve what I want? I simply want to get the psd one to convert to JPEG without darkening my original image.

Thank you guys in advance~!
Posted at 9:34AM, 21 November 2008 PDT (permalink)

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mathewm says:

you know, you can just hit file>save as, and save the PSD as a JPEG copy.

or, command(control for windows) shift E merges visible layers
Posted 43 months ago. (permalink)

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Jitterousperth  Pro User  says:

Dude,of coz I know those simple basic commands, only it gives a different result as hitting the Merge Layers will give me a Darkened result same as the Save As Jpeg..
If you would dl the psd and try for urself u will know what i m talking about.
Posted 43 months ago. (permalink)

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Tennessee_Gator is a group administrator Tennessee_Gator  Pro User  says:

I downloaded your PSD and notice a very slight darkening if I flattened or if I did the stamp visible.

I turned off every layer, one at a time and did the stamp visible to see if I can determine which one is doing it. It seems to me that your watermark layer is doing it, though I don't know why and don't know even if I'm right.

Try moving it to being the first layer underneath the adjustment layers and see what you think.
Posted 43 months ago. (permalink)

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Stevekin is a group administrator Stevekin  Pro User  says:

Regarding your last sentence, of course a helpful reply will not run afoul of anything here......................but sarcasm can.
You should understand that someone with no profile (no photos or information, no history on Flickr) that pops up with a link to their blog/site/stuff is often considered by many to be spamming.
Obviously that was the belief at the time the thread was locked. But hey, your post and link were left intact !

That said, I am aware of you (not so much your site), but I have seen you in other forums generously offering advice and free goodies, asking nothing in return.
So welcome to the PSG and help away :-)
Posted 43 months ago. (permalink)

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Loopsta says:

I would just like to say a huge thanks to Mitch here in an unlocked thread, your actions were a great source of learning and probably the best set of actions that i have although i downloaded them some time ago now, i still use them and reference them for building new actions, i realize that this is a bit OT and apologies to jitterousperth for slipping this in, hope you dont mind !
Posted 43 months ago. (permalink)

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Stevekin is a group administrator Stevekin  Pro User  says:

gmitchel850..........when you have been around Flickr a little while longer, you'll realise there was nothing arbitrary about the locking of the discussion to which you refer.
Some folk do come here (not just PSG, but the wider Flickr also) with the sole intention of redirection to suit their own ends.

It is perfectly fine for members to link to their own stuff from the group, welcomed in fact.
But as I explained earlier, your current status and promotion of your site in what was probably your first post here (we don't have the luxury of seeing everyone's list of posts/comments, as in Steve's Forums for example) is a prime example of what many would consider spamming.

It's nothing personal.......
Posted 43 months ago. (permalink)

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Stevekin is a group administrator Stevekin  Pro User  says:

Perhaps my use of the term spam was inaccurate.
Although spam isn't necessarily just about porn or viagra....advertisements/self promotion can also be included under the umbrella of spam. Though more usually created by bots.
No...there's no suggestion you are a bot ;-)

Which is the point I was actually trying to make.

Whether TG checked the link or not, he saw the post as a promotional tool, an advertisement. You are new to this group, joined the same day you posted the link, and probably as new to Flickr.
With no active history here, it's easy to see it from that viewpoint.

Many members here have their own sites and link to tutorials and actions they have produced, and this is welcome here !
I guess it was your 'newness' and was kinda looked on as "hey, I'm Mitch...go here !" ;-)

However, I (as I said), and others, are aware of your activities off Flickr and you have argued your case positively.
In light of this, I would imagine the thread could be unlocked once TG comes online :)
Posted 43 months ago. (permalink)

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ⓅⒶⓎⓅⒶⓊⓁ  Pro User  says:

I didn't want to start a new thread on this subject so if you don't mind I'll use this one. I have a very similar problem when merging layers. I've added a layer to a PSD where I added noise to the image. Of course the PS filter will often grey out the image so I added a levels adjustment layer. I've tried to do a clone stamp of the adjustment layer and the "add noise" layer and the levels adjustment was nullified in the stamped layer. I've tried merge visible and also tried changing the image mode to lab color & CyMK. All efforts produced the same greyed out results disregarding my levels adjustment. I see this a lot with a number of projects where I use an adjustment layer and save as jpeg. The results don't match what I see in the PSD with the adjustment layers.

This is the file on Mediafire for any who wish to try it for themselves. I especially hope that TG is available. You've always been a helpful fount of wisdom TG.

www.mediafire.com/file/7n1cb7gmq3m105x/Forbidden%20Fruit%...

Thanks in advance for your help.
Posted 14 months ago. (permalink)

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Tennessee_Gator is a group administrator Tennessee_Gator  Pro User  says:

Yep Paul, it looks like you discovered an anomaly . I tried yours and mine and others and kept losing contrast after flattening.

You can set the noise layer to overlay or softlight and it'll be similar and it'll work.

Another suggestion is to use Filter > Texture > Grain. It's got a contrast slider. A tip on using that filter. When you originally call the photo in it's be 100% so just use command/control + 0 (that's zero) to fit to screen.
Posted 14 months ago. (permalink)

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ⓅⒶⓎⓅⒶⓊⓁ  Pro User  says:

The grain filter works to some extent for what I want. Thanks for that. Soft Light also is a good choice. I am upset that I can't always use adjustment layers the way I want to.

An anomaly indeed. I've seen some others post this kind of problem on adobe forums. I haven't found a reason for it posted yet.
Posted 14 months ago. (permalink)

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Harry Limey is a group administrator Harry Limey  Pro User  says:

Stevekin and Tennessee_Gator

gmitchel850

That name takes me back to a few years ago on the Lightroom group - does he call himself Mitch and have a website that he insists he is not promoting!!
If it is him, what a nightmare.
Posted 14 months ago. (permalink)

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Stevekin is a group administrator Stevekin  Pro User  says:

Same one Harry.
He didn't like the way this group is run, nor the PSE or your Lightroom group enough to blog about them ;-)
Posted 14 months ago. (permalink)

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Harry Limey is a group administrator Harry Limey  Pro User  says:

Thanks Steve, looks like he might not have liked how Flickr was run either as it seems he has now left the building!
Posted 14 months ago. (permalink)

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Stevekin is a group administrator Stevekin  Pro User  says:

Not just us then ;-)
Posted 14 months ago. (permalink)

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ⓅⒶⓎⓅⒶⓊⓁ  Pro User  says:

Stevekin wrote

He didn't like the way this group is run, nor the PSE or your Lightroom group enough to blog about them


What's not to like?
Posted 14 months ago. (permalink)

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unimatrix001 says:

PAYPAUL, I hope you dont mind if i tried your photo with the levels command darking the image. i tried several different ways to try and make it just merge down... was unable to get it to work properly. Then just for giggles i set the view to 100 percent and could see about a fourth of the picture. when i merged down or stamped visible there was no change from the levels command. I believe the problem arises from a reduced view of the picture. at 100 percent the merge or stamp works perfectly.
Posted 13 months ago. (permalink)

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jpenneba  Pro User  says:

From the test I just did I concur with unimatrix001.

I created a RED Layer
Then a NOISE Layer
Then an extreme Curves Layer

After Flattening, the image changes and becomes dark. View @100% however there is NO change.

The 11% view with the Layer Adjustment appears different from the 100% view.

20110420_layer_test
Posted 13 months ago. (permalink)

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Stevekin is a group administrator Stevekin  Pro User  says:

Not seeing that myself.
Using Paul's photo, I zoomed in to 100% and stamped visible (& flattened). Returning to 'fit screen', the effect of the Levels layer is lost.

I noticed that when zooming to 100%, the levels effect diminished considerably. There was a subtle difference when switching the layer off and on, but nothing like what the difference *should* have been.

I've tried several ways to get it to flatten or stamp.
It's now frustrating the crap out of me :-/
Posted 13 months ago. (permalink)

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unimatrix001 says:

That is also what i noticed the effect of the levels layer is lost only on a view smaller then i believe it was 75 percent. I believe its just the way its rendered at the lower percentage views that you notice the effects missing.
Posted 13 months ago. (permalink)

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baron samedi  Pro User  says:

whatthe heck is stamp? and what does it do?
Posted 13 months ago. (permalink)

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Stevekin is a group administrator Stevekin  Pro User  says:

In the context of this discussion, it is a way to flatten all layers to produce one composite layer on the top of the stack, keeping the layers intact beneath it.

Using the keyboard shortcut of Shift+Ctrl+Alt+E (Shift + Command + Option + E on a Mac, I think) will 'flatten' all layers beneath the currently active layer (including the currently active layer). So to produce a composite of all layers, be sure to have the top layer active when doing so.

It's purpose ?
You can create a flattened composite to perform final steps/processing on, but retain all layers in case you don't like what you have done. You then simply discard the stamped layer and do it again. This is because certain effects may have an adverse affect on the layers beneath it (adjustment layers etc). So it can be beneficial to play with a 'flattened' version at certain points in the workflow.
Posted 13 months ago. (permalink)

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sandkicker_oinc  Pro User  says:

Ok, the neophyte here.
After following this discussion and looking at the Adobe help on stamp visible, I am losing something in the translation.

If I want to go back over layers at some point in time, I select all layers in the palet and just save the entire palet as a psd, is this really different than the discussion.

Guess I am have a bout with senior citizenitis on this topic.
Originally posted 13 months ago. (permalink)
sandkicker_oinc edited this topic 13 months ago.

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joeduke430  Pro User  says:

Sandkicker, they're talking about when the layers are merged the effect of one layer is missing or less apparent. If you flatten the image, or do a stamp visible, or save as jpeg. ect. the image looks different than when it's all individual layers.
Posted 13 months ago. (permalink)

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sandkicker_oinc  Pro User  says:

Ok thanks, guess I totally misunderstood.
Posted 13 months ago. (permalink)

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ⓅⒶⓎⓅⒶⓊⓁ  Pro User  says:

I have another file with a similar problem. I tried a simple adjustment layer with Hue/Saturation. What appears in the PSD is again not showing up in the Jpeg version. I also tried going to image>adjustments>hue/saturation (Which I don't like to do) and applied it. The adjustment I made doesn't show up in the layer nor in the jpeg. I then saved the PSD as a jpeg and tried to apply the adjustment again with the same dismal results. I also tried it again changing the single jpeg layer from "background" to "Layer 1" with the same problem. I'm using CS5.
This really sucks!

Post edit:

I tried something with another image that was a bit less complicated than the first one. I also noticed PS didn't save my last change to scratch disks so I re-applied the scratch disk settings, closed the program and reopened it again. The hue sat worked on another image yet still refuses to take with the previous jpeg file. I used a filter forge 2 filter on both images, a rather complicated one that makes all kinds of neat swirls and eddies in the photo.
Originally posted 13 months ago. (permalink)
ⓅⒶⓎⓅⒶⓊⓁ edited this topic 13 months ago.

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