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Raleigh Lighting Workshop report
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I'll get it out of the way at the very beginning. If you are serious about real estate photography and you have the chance to attend one of these workshops, do not pass up the opportunity.
After a few minutes to drink some coffee, get our equipment squared away and introduce ourselves to one another, the day proceeded as follows:
From about 8:30 to 9:30 Scott and Thomas talked about flashes and the light they produce. How to direct it, how to control it, how to modify it, how to make your photos look good by taking full advantage of it.
From about 9:30 to 10:30 Scott and Thomas tethered one of their cameras to a laptop and proceeded with a demo of how to light a basic living room. After each shot we would all examine the most recent image on the computer screen and the guys would talk about how effective each change had been and what additions they would make for the next shot. Using this method, they started with a straight ambient shot and added one light at a time and adjusted that light (explaining every step of the way, what they were doing and why) until it looked the way they wanted it.
From about 10:30 to 12:45, we broke up into four groups of four people. Two of the groups went to a nearby house. In each house, four people would be shooting bedrooms and bathrooms while the other group would be shooting living rooms and kitchens.
Thomas and Scott would give each group an assignment, telling us what to shoot and from what perspective. We would then begin to photograph and light the scene. The guys would move back and forth from the bedroom group to the living room group, asking about the choices we had made as to where to position the lights, what strength they were at, whether we had used any modifiers (WAD, etc.), what we were bouncing them from and why, etc.
If we were having a difficult time with lighting a particular portion of a scene (brushed stainless fridge, high gloss, dark wood cabinets) there was an informed back and forth and the guys would make suggestions and discuss with us why a choice we had made was working or not, and what to do about it.
A wonderful lunch was served. We had a brief discussion and Thomas and Scott answered any questions that we had about the morning's work.
From about 1:45 to 4:00, we changed instructors (if you had Scott before, now you had Thomas), we changed houses and we went from living rooms to bedrooms. The format was identical to the morning shoot.
Sometime after 4:00 we all gathered in the opposite house from the morning living room tutorial shoot. Thomas and Scott were going to light and photograph the much larger living room, which had views into the kitchen and breakfast nook. This was much more demanding than the earlier living room shoot. The format was the same. Tethered camera, discussion about each change in lighting, figuring out how to deal with particularly difficult areas that needed to be lit, watching and cringing when Thomas's SB800 crashed to the floor from the top of the fridge, etc. There was a lot of input from the students and constructive back and forth from Thomas and Scott as to where and how to place the lights.
Once the living room shoot ended there was an open forum where the guys answered any and all questions, not just on lighting, but on RE photography in general.
That evening, Scott, Thomas and a number of us went to a local restaurant for dinner and drinks.
It was great finally getting to meet Scott and Thomas. They are both great guys, very knowledgeable, funny (especially the Thomas vs. Scott back and forth banter) and incredibly generous to share their extensive expertise with the rest of us.
It was also fun getting to meet some of the personalities we all see on the PFRE website. People came from as far away as Chicago and Montreal to attend this workshop. I am sure that everyone felt the experience was invaluable.
I would suggest that no matter what your RE photography skill level, there is much for you to learn from these workshops.
Thanks again to Scott and Thomas.
John McBay
Posted at 3:05PM, 19 May 2009 PDT
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Thanks to John for giving everyone a very comprehensive description of the day. We were lucky to be part of a fantastic group of people of varying levels of experience.
You can't imagine a better couple of instructors than Scott and Thomas. Both were engaging, knowledgeable, patient and challenging. I'd mentioned to both that kitchens and bathrooms kick my ass on a regular basis; Thomas directed me to a particular composition in a kitchen that forced me to completely discard my normal way of doing things - I had only a couple of low-level flashes in the kitchen to fill in shadows left by the ambient, which was, by necessity, my main light source. Sure, I had a fair amount of post to do on that shot, mostly to recover shadows and highlights, but I ended up with a perfectly usable result. If I had an "a-ha" moment that day, this was it.
Even if you're regularly turning out good work, Scott and Thomas can open your eyes to new ways of producing good images. That's the biggest thing I took away from my day at the workshop - all my images will get better, but what matters most to me is that I added some very important new techniques to my bag of tricks. And the interaction with all the other students was fantastic.
If you're on the fence about attending a workshop, just do it. You'll be very happy that you did.
Posted 50 months ago.
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C'mon Scott and Thomas - come to Sydney!!!!!!!
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C'mon Milschicky - come to Denver!!!!!!!!!
Kidding.
Thanks, John, and John - glad you guys liked it! I'm still feeling the fatigue from 3 straight 18-hours days that each began at 3:00 a.m. on my internal clock, but I have to say I had a great time! This was a really fantastic group of photographers, and I'm looking forward to seeing some photos from everyone. I saw some amazing stuff on the backs of cameras on both Saturday and Sunday.
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johnmc - thanks for that great summary! Now I don't have to type up my notes :) I enjoyed being in the group with you.
I also learned a ton form Scott and Thomas and highly recommend the workshop. I think everyone in Raleigh was a contributor and I look forward to continuing to learn from each other on this group.
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I attended the Chicago workshop earlier this year, and if you change "raleigh" to "chicago" in the above, everything held true. I learned so much and have improved. I still have a way to go but at least now I know what to do with flashes.
If you are an ambient only shooter (like i was), it is eye opening to go to one of these workshops! And, yes, Thomas and Scott are both great guys. Added bonus was meeting fellow flikr PFRE photographers.
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I'd come to Denver if I could Scott!
But seriously, come to Sydney. You mentioned you were looking into coming over here, how are the plans coming along???
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Thanks John, this was a really great group of photographers and I know we both had a ton of fun, even with the 3 hrs of sleep per night. It's wonderful to hear what photographers of different skill levels take from the workshops, big "ah-ha's" or lots of equally important subtle changes, like John Becker.
Looking forward to Denver!
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Sounded awesome. I've been to two of these, and I'm looking forward to a third sometime in the future. Scott & Thomas are masters at what they do, and if they can teach a goof like me can how to use flashes, there's hope for anyone!
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Milschicky - Come on, pony up. I'm going to Denver from Adleaide and I have to go through Sydney. Surely you can work it out! :-)
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