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Open College of the Arts says:

Following input from students at Format in Derby, we are testing the idea of running a competition through flickr. The background information is on WeAreOCA and entries to date can be seen here (The Allergy photo is not an entry, merely a place-holder).

As always, we are interested in student feedback.

Cheers

Gareth
Posted at 9:23AM, 17 March 2011 PDT (permalink)

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macaquitalinda  Pro User  says:

Hi Gareth, great idea.
Q: How many entries per student?
Thanks,
Yiann.
Posted 15 months ago. (permalink)

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Eileen R is a group administrator Eileen R  Pro User  says:

Hi Gareth. Sounds like fun. As you've said, we've done a lot of talking about photography recently - good to do something more practical for a change.
Posted 15 months ago. (permalink)

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Eileen R is a group administrator Eileen R  Pro User  says:

...and I also think it's great that students of other OCA disciplines can take part. The only people possibly excluded are I think the musicians - but maybe someone will prove me wrong on that!
Posted 15 months ago. (permalink)

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crazee1ady  Pro User  says:

LOL am imagining aldready a penned tune "Ode to a Loo Roll" with musical score photographed and uploaded ;o)
Posted 15 months ago. (permalink)

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stuart.mcquade says:

Yes, I'm pretty sure it'd be easy to make an intrument from some toilet rolls - Gareth did say a photogrpah of an 'installation' could be used...
Posted 15 months ago. (permalink)

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stuart.mcquade says:

...or a video using an audio recording of a tune or rhythm played on toilet rolls. :) The list goes on...
Posted 15 months ago. (permalink)

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Open College of the Arts says:

Glad this is attracting interest

There's no limit on entries, let your imaginations run wild
Posted 15 months ago. (permalink)

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Rob™  Pro User  says:

Some toilets in Japan play little tunes to cover the natural music being composed...
Posted 15 months ago. (permalink)

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Susan Dev says:

Love the idea of music playing. My brother won't like this getting out but he used to do his homework sitting on the loo.
Posted 15 months ago. (permalink)

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Father Pie  Pro User  says:

Where do you think I do my coursework? :-)
Posted 15 months ago. (permalink)

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Scottish Zoe  Pro User  says:

Ok - might be fun!
Posted 15 months ago. (permalink)

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Open College of the Arts says:

The first entry

Grim discovery
Posted 14 months ago. (permalink)

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Matt_Giles  Pro User  says:

Great idea, gotta get my thinking cap on for this
Posted 14 months ago. (permalink)

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Atkobeau  Pro User  says:

Thanks, I had trouble explaining to my better half why there was a brick with a camera balanced on it in the loo!
Posted 14 months ago. (permalink)

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stuart.mcquade says:

It's going to be interesting to see how many photographs *won't* be taken within a toilet (room)...
Posted 14 months ago. (permalink)

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Atkobeau  Pro User  says:

Glad I got in there first then :-)
Posted 14 months ago. (permalink)

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_mubblegum_ says:

Been thinking about ideas for a while on this - and accidentally came across an opportunity earlier! Just posted it =)
Posted 14 months ago. (permalink)

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amanosamarpan  Pro User  says:

MMnnn .... am planning a photo involving two naked models (not in a loo!) but not sure I shall be able to find them since a professional model rate would be too much! I like Aktobeau's image but surely the shadow around the head and left shoulder needs cloning out!? Amano
Posted 14 months ago. (permalink)

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Rob™  Pro User  says:

Why Amano?
Posted 14 months ago. (permalink)

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CBArreton  Pro User  says:

I added a photo but it hasn't appeared on the competition page. What have I done wrong? Oops it is there now. I was too impatient!

www.flickr.com/photos/arreton/5597001779/
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ChrissieR  Pro User  says:

I've just uploaded my contributions...Great fun was had by all!!
Posted 14 months ago. (permalink)

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JanetBroughton  Pro User  says:

I was going to do something like that !! Brings back memories of my wedding reception :)
Posted 14 months ago. (permalink)

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ChrissieR  Pro User  says:

LOL. I had to borrow my grandsons for an hour but daughter didn't mind :O)
Posted 14 months ago. (permalink)

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CBArreton  Pro User  says:

I put another one up this morning. A nice distraction from TAOP exercises for a while! It isn't on the competition page yet but I expect it soon will be.
Posted 14 months ago. (permalink)

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stuart.mcquade says:

My two entries have 'disappeared' from the 'rollwithit' search - but I've not done anything with the photos or the tags. The only thing that's changed has been that people have commented them.

Has anyone else 'lost' their entry?

(Thanks for pointing this out, Dewald)
Posted 14 months ago. (permalink)

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CBArreton  Pro User  says:

Yes. I put one up yesterday as well which doesn't seem to have appeared at all. However, I found it when I clicked onto 'slideshow'. I actually thought you'd withdrawn your two Stuart when I didn't see them, but one of them is also on the slideshow.

There are still only a few entries even on the slideshow and all seem to be from photography students which would be a shame. Maybe it's because it's on the Flickr site and not everyone uses it (even the photography students). Perhaps the OCA site itself, or even the new magazine, would be a better site so that it would draw in the other disciplines.
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stuart.mcquade says:

Thabnks, Catherine. I've emailed Gareth to let him know the search possibly isn't working as well as it should.

Edit: Ah, both of my entries are in the slideshow... strange..
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southliving  Pro User  says:

Hi Stuart, got your mail, thanks.. will reply a bit later. Strange they show up in the slideshow, but not in the tag search... could it be that tag search excludes video?

Yes, Catherine, I too hoped to have seen some work from other parts of the OCA, but there is still the weekend left... :-)
Posted 14 months ago. (permalink)

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stuart.mcquade says:

I suspect there'll be a mass upload on the 17th. ;) The videos were previously in the search results, so I'm not sure what's happened...
Posted 14 months ago. (permalink)

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anned3  Pro User  says:

I suppose they may not know about it, or perhaps its a time issue. I'm a printmaking student but I don't have enough space to do any more printmaking at the moment - all available work surfaces have things drying on them, etc. Also there is a time investment involved with making a new print that I just don't have at the moment.
I've done photographs so I can join in. I do use photography in my printmaking but I can't help feeling rather silly when everyone here is bound to have more photography skills than I do:)
Posted 14 months ago. (permalink)

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Eileen R is a group administrator Eileen R  Pro User  says:

There was at least one entry from a fine art student - though it was in photographic form. Hopefully a few more will appear.
Posted 14 months ago. (permalink)

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studiobee says:

I uploaded my entry earlier. It involves a number of images.

Tagged 'rollwithit. Only seems to be showing on the slideshow, which randomises the order.

BeeMS
Posted 14 months ago. (permalink)

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stuart.mcquade says:

Gareth's now aware of the problem and he'll ask the tutors to view the entries using the slideshow option. So we *should* be ok.
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southliving  Pro User  says:

Hi Anne!
Nice to see you here! Don't worry about photo skills!
Dewald
Posted 14 months ago. (permalink)

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anned3  Pro User  says:

Stuart if you're in touch with Gareth, it might be worth mentioning that you only see all the entries on the slideshow if you're signed into flickr. If you're not signed in quite a few entries are missing, I think its the most recent ones.

I did have 2 photos on the entries to date page, now one has disappeared, although it's still on the slideshow.

Thanks Dewald!
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stuart.mcquade says:

Could it simply be because the image isn't set to 'public'?
Posted 14 months ago. (permalink)

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anned3  Pro User  says:

Don't think so, it's BeeMS's that appear to be missing when I'm not signed in, they look like they're set to public.
Posted 14 months ago. (permalink)

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poppytwo  Pro User  says:

Put one in tonight which appeared on the regular OCA flickr sight so hope it finds its way : ). I tagged "rollwithit"
Posted 14 months ago. (permalink)

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Eileen R is a group administrator Eileen R  Pro User  says:

The best way to find all the entries is not to use the link pasted above but to search this group's pool yourself. The search defaults to looking for groups and all text so change it to search on 'photos' and look for 'rollwithit' in 'tags' and the pictures all come up. Plus a few others...
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amnesia.of.borg —not around much at the moment  Pro User  says:

Whoops, just noticed this competition! I've put my entry into the group Flickr pool tagged "rollwithit"

Edit: I've just been looking at others' images, there are lots of really talented entries in this competition.
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ChrissieR  Pro User  says:

WOW some excellent contributions to this competition. I don't envy the judges!!
Posted 14 months ago. (permalink)

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Open College of the Arts says:

Competition now closed and I can see that the photography tutors will have an interesting task picking a winner at their development day on Wednesday- some fabulous ideas and work.

I think we have discovered a glitch in the way flickr searches for tagged images, but I can assure you they will look at all entries using the algorithm identified by Eileen.

Gareth
Posted 14 months ago. (permalink)

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amanosamarpan  Pro User  says:

Rob, have just seen your question as to why I suggest the shadow is cloned out in the initial submission of someone looking down into a toilet.

Simply, to make the image look less like a photograph made with flash. There is also a shadow behind the toilet roll. I always consider that while flash is a great tool, it needs to be an invisible one.

How important is this? I do not know and guess that is up to the photographer and the judges. Its' something I would have done as well as using the Lens Profile feature in RAW to straighten lines.
When you have a good concept for an image, it seems sensible to execute it as best as possible though I do accept that the photographer might not have wanted to do this.

My comment was a suggestion not a command!
Posted 14 months ago. (permalink)

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Rob™  Pro User  says:

The reason I asked was that some photographers make a feature of the flash shadow, I just wondered why you thought it shouldn't be there. Just trying to spark debate...
Posted 14 months ago. (permalink)

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CliveDoubleU says:

You can use direct flash knowingly to invoke the paparazzi/snap shot genre.

In this case you could read it as a paparazzo shooting from the toilet.
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Eileen R is a group administrator Eileen R  Pro User  says:

LOL Clive.

A year or two ago I used to see a lot of high fashion images with flash shadows, sometimes playing with shape and proportion in a really interesting way. Doesn't seem to be in vogue so much now.

I wonder if they'll move on to the current paparazzi/ celeb snapper look? I see a lot of pictures of people in mags like Grazia with big heads and small lower bodies caused by using a wide lens up close and held high. I can never understand why they don't correct it. Not sure if Vogue and the like will be so keen to try that one (but I'm sure to be proved wrong now I've said it out loud).
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CliveDoubleU says:

Oh they already did it years ago, before heroin chic. Its all been done before. ' }
Posted 14 months ago. (permalink)

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amanosamarpan  Pro User  says:

I think there is a difference between breaking the rules knowingly and being amateurish.

To maintain that flash should not be noticeable is a bit autocratic and I can see that the shadows can be an aesthetic element of the photo; was not really disputing this but thanks for bringing it to my attention.

In one of my submitted images there was a lot of backlighting; I decided to withdraw it because it was not really the effect I wanted.
Posted 14 months ago. (permalink)

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amanosamarpan  Pro User  says:

Eileen mentions the "big heads and small lower bodies " of fashion pics.

I guess this is another way of promoting the ideal slim chic and probably makes her breasts look bigger into the bargain !?

Heard a story recently. A top Israeli model was bitten by a snake she was caressing; the model soon recovered, the snake died of silicon poisoning !!?
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Eileen R is a group administrator Eileen R  Pro User  says:

Amano - I think the effect is just a by-product of trying to take full-body shots in a confined space like the side of an awards ceremony line-up.
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Open College of the Arts says:

And the winner is...

Waste not want not ..... recycle your loo roll

This entry attracted the most votes from today's meeting of photography tutors. Congratulations to poppytwo - if you email me (garethdent@oca-uk.com) with your real name, I can get the prize DVD in the post to you.

It was clear the tutors appreciated the humour and inventiveness in your image.

There were a number of close runners up including:

Vostok 1

and this video

and the series from which this image is taken.

Many thanks to all who participated. I have learned quite a lot from the exercise. In particular I now understand how flaky the flickr tagging system is - yielding different results depending on where you search for images, and how important it is to be precise in wording competition rules.

I did say the image had to feature 'a toilet roll' and there was a lengthy discussion about whether this was sufficiently precise and whether a toilet roll in pieces was still a toilet roll. It is these sort of theological debates which make interactions with tutors so engaging ;-)

Gareth
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southliving  Pro User  says:

Congrats guys!
Well done!
Dewald
Posted 13 months ago. (permalink)

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ChrissieR  Pro User  says:

Congratulations poppytwo. Your photo really made me laugh!!
Posted 13 months ago. (permalink)

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*marmalade*  Pro User  says:

Very well done...congratulations Poppytwo.
Posted 13 months ago. (permalink)

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NottinghamDave says:

Well done poppytwo and indeed to all who entered...quite a creative and varied selection considering the subject matter :p
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standickinson  Pro User  says:

Excellent - well done; good competition all round!
Posted 13 months ago. (permalink)

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CBArreton  Pro User  says:

Many congratulations Poppytwo. It's a great image.
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crazee1ady  Pro User  says:

Well done Poppytwo. I enjoyed looking at all the entries as well as playing about myself. Was a fun thing to do and got the brain cells working. Can we have more like this.......?
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amnesia.of.borg —not around much at the moment  Pro User  says:

Well done Poppytwo, and the close runners up. It's been fun looking at the entries for this competition.
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ChrissieR  Pro User  says:

yes it's been great fun and makes you think outside the box. Would definitely like more competitions.
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Father Pie  Pro User  says:

Well done to you all. Very inventive. Has anyone mentioned flushed with success yet?
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Eileen R is a group administrator Eileen R  Pro User  says:

Congratulations all. I also think it would be fun to have more light-hearted comps from time to time.
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poppytwo  Pro User  says:

Thanks for your congrats everyone, much appreciated:)

Like others have said, it was fun looking at the entries and the different interpretations of the the brief. Well done everyone.

LOL Father Pie!

Fiona:)
Posted 13 months ago. (permalink)

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JanetBroughton  Pro User  says:

Well done Fiona :)
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amanosamarpan  Pro User  says:

I enjoyed participating in this competition; gave me a chance to create work I might not have otherwise done. Congratulations to the winner ... !
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Rob™  Pro User  says:

Nice one fiona
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Open College of the Arts says:

'I also think it would be fun to have more light-hearted comps from time to time.'

I think this is an excellent idea Eileen. I am happy to commit the OCA to running four light-hearted competitions a year with prizes being a book or DVD which in some way is vaguely relevant to OCA study.

Perhaps someone would like to start a 'competition themes' thread so that the OCA can pick a theme from student suggestions.

Gareth
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studiobee says:

Well deserved Poppytwo! Congrats!
Bee
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macaquitalinda  Pro User  says:

Congratulations Fiona! and of course all runner ups.

A 4 per year competitions will keep everyone engaged and takes off the sometimes stressful course work, great idea. I just hope that it will take off this time and it will not get forgotten.
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