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Help! Same exposure at f2 and f2.8

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exdigecko  Pro User  says:

Hi all,

I've just bought used 135mm f/2 DC non-D version. I quickly discovered what when i'm shooting at f2, all shots are underexposed. Then i've done some test, and realizes what during shooting at full manual, f2 and f2.8 gives almost same exposure, f2 fastern than f2.8 only by 1/3 stop, not full stop.

Then i placed camera on tripod and done test shots for all my primes.

The results:



So f2 on 135mm f/2 really gives underexposed picture.

If somebody have same lens, can you please do quick test shots and compare exposition between f2 and f2.8?

Can somebody tell me what can be wrong? Is it may be faulty of the this single used lens?
Posted at 11:30PM, 25 August 2009 PDT (permalink)

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Hugo Vincent says:

Sounds like stuck aperture blades. Do they move freely as you wiggle the little metal lever on the right side of the lens mount?
Posted 34 months ago. (permalink)

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exdigecko  Pro User  says:

I set shutter to 2 secs and check how aperture is closing during shooting. At f2 aperture remains fully open, at f2.8 it becaming a little smaller.

Blades moving OK...
Posted 34 months ago. (permalink)

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Licht~Bild  Pro User  says:

Only the AI and the G lenses do expose properly. Problem with lens contacts?
Originally posted 34 months ago. (permalink)
Licht~Bild edited this topic 34 months ago.

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exdigecko  Pro User  says:

I am doing manual exposure, so its no matter is there auto metering or not.
Posted 34 months ago. (permalink)

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Andrew Alexander says:

Is there any ambient light in your test setup?
With such large apertures even a 60-watt bulb can influence overall exposure.
Posted 34 months ago. (permalink)

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Licht~Bild  Pro User  says:

exdigecko I am doing manual exposure, so its no matter is there auto metering or not.

Still your lenses have an electronically controlled aperture.
Originally posted 34 months ago. (permalink)
Licht~Bild edited this topic 34 months ago.

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exdigecko  Pro User  says:

If dof-preview button works OK, does it mean electronical control works well too?
Posted 34 months ago. (permalink)

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OldUncleMe  Pro User  says:

It really sounds like sticking aperture blades. When you open the lens by hand, you aren't really able to measure aperture except by eye. I'd consider taking the lens in for service or sending it back for cause.

/..
Posted 34 months ago. (permalink)

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exdigecko  Pro User  says:

I've just checked it. Placed camera with attached lens under bright lamp during shooting. Its really visible difference in lens between f2 and f2.8. At f2.8 blades clearly visible, at f2 they are hiding inside.

Hmm maybe its just lens specific? Is anybody here can do quick test for me please?
Posted 34 months ago. (permalink)

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koen kallenberg says:

i don't know if it's even possible, or if i'm talking rubbish, so correct me if i'm wrong. (i just got this idea while reading this tread).
is it maybe possible that the apartureblades of one lens move faster than the other, and that that causes the difference in exposures at the smaller apartures.

because at full open the exposure looks the same, but if you close down there's a difference.
Posted 34 months ago. (permalink)

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fotosniper  Pro User  says:

so it looks like this thread is being used to illustrate the issues with camera makers lying about the real numbers underlying the fast lenses. i dont understand or care about all the nonsense but ohh well.
Posted 19 months ago. (permalink)

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fotosniper  Pro User  says:

nikonrumors.com/2010/11/06/is-f1-4-at-iso-200-really-f1-4...
Posted 19 months ago. (permalink)

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BENE11040 says:

exdigecko

Do you have any photos posted with the EXIF data?
There is a possibility it's not the lens. Do you have the lens profile set up in the D700? I had similar issues a while ago and was able to make corrections.
Posted 19 months ago. (permalink)

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OldUncleMe  Pro User  says:

DXO is a bad player when it comes to installing even the trial version of their editing software. I don't really trust the company, so I'm not sure of their conclusions either.

/..
Posted 19 months ago. (permalink)

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Irrbloss says:

Test the exposure with the Aperature in manual-mode (allredy stoped down when you fire the trigger) to se if this is du to aperature-lag.
Posted 19 months ago. (permalink)

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exdigecko  Pro User  says:

@Irrbloss - just done it, same issue.
Posted 19 months ago. (permalink)

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starfish235  Pro User  says:

Just another uncontrolled experiment. You can watch the flash Guide Number (GN) change in the data by > 1.47x from 13.4 @ 35mm to > 19.8 above 105mm. . . just like the SB-800 manual says it should @ M/8. {SB-800 manual p. 42}.
Posted 19 months ago. (permalink)

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Houston Cougars says:

Pixel peeping is a sin you know.
Posted 19 months ago. (permalink)

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exdigecko  Pro User  says:

@starfish
My flash was off-camera. When you take flash off-camera, it wont zoom until you make it by yourself. And it power output wont change, too.

@houston
If you shooting in low light, you'd better know which lens give you more oomph. Also, when you buy 1000$ lens, you'd better know why its acting weird.
Posted 19 months ago. (permalink)

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exdigecko  Pro User  says:

Also you can watch my photostream and see im not a cats-n-walls shooter.
Posted 19 months ago. (permalink)

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photopath  Pro User  says:

Try repeating the test focused at infinity. I suspect fotosniper is sort of close - but it's more an issue at the closer focusing distances used for your test shots. I suspect at infinity, the lens will behave properly.
It's also not clear exactly how you tested the lenses.
Posted 19 months ago. (permalink)

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