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Sounds like fun,I would like to attend..
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Count me in. Thanks!
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I am in.
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I am a complete novice when it comes to any kind of off camera lighting. I would love to attend to see, experience and learn about this kind of photography. Thanks!
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I'd like to get back to our roots a bit more.
The last few outings we have had a lot of heavy artillery. I think it would be nice and a benefit to the newer members attending to get back to our Strobist roots and limit the lights to just the speedlights.
I think we were much more creative in how we had to approach a shot when our supply of light was a bit limited. With a big ol' strobe you have more options but are not as thoughtful when setting up lights and finding a solution.
I think the big studio setups can be good and educational and are certainly lots of fun but they are not really in the Strobist philosophy of Less Gear - More Brain - Better Light.
Last meetup our group had 6 or 8 bags of crap! :) Not that I minded and I certainly have AT LEAST that much crap myself, but that's definitely not the Strobist style.
Just the way I am thinking about these right now.
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I'm in.
TJ, I just bought a couple of strobes, and would like to try them out. So I hope we don't just restrict to flashes.
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Sign me up!
Chuck
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@TJ - This was just my second meetup with this group. I'm still new to the group, but not to strobist in general. I have both strobes and flash. Each has their place. I don't entirely agree with your position regarding creativity.
Maybe it's just me, but I follow the same general creative process, thinking, light alignment, etc. with either set of lights. Maybe it's just out of habit, but I still use my Sekonic for either set up, too, but I still chimp with both.
I do not believe strobist is or ever was intended to be restricted just to flashes. In fact, David H recently blogged about this very fact. That said, since I'm new to this group, perhaps I've missed the point, about this or at least about the formation of this group.
Personally, I'm with Rick about this. I'd like it to be open to whichever style fits the individual photographer's need and/or the intent of the particular meetup. That's my two cents worth. I hope I haven't offended anyone in the process!
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I will take care of lining up models once we have a venue. I have quite a few models that have contacted me that are interested in future shoots.
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TJ...I only own small strobes. I am not in favor of limiting the light, but I plan to be as much a small light person as possible for the forseeable future. Sunday, I did not rummage around stalking the big light. I purposely found an environment no one else seemed to want, and used only small lights. I purposely limited my resources to acquire a different set of challenges. I figure my pictures won't be as glamorous as the big game hunters, but I will learn a lot. I really like that you are thinking this way, though. My 2 cents.
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I have potentially 2 models for July. I will confirm them and get back to you, Kurt.
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Please add me to the list.
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put me in the list!
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add me to the list please!
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Kurt Alisha can't wait to come out again. I will see how well I am recovering from surgery as to whether I will be there.
(might come out just to watch for a while.)
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Sounds good.
I will put Alisha on the "tentative" list.
OK - time to start throwing out ideas for locations. With the current heat, I like Ben's suggestion of air conditioning. If we shoot outside, I would like to see if we could find a park or location with water (river or lake) - maybe a waterfall and/or a beach.
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Please sign me up. I'm really sorry I missed the June shoot.
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Please sign me up. Thanks
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I'd suggest a beach shoot with swimsuits but Sunday afternoon at a beach is going to be super busy. We could probably just grab people off their towels for subjects if their boy/girlfriends didn't mind, but we'd have to be really careful of our gear.
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TJ: Was that also "I'm in?"
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TJ Im with you,would like to get back to the strobist thing.For one reason,it does make you work harder and smarter.In turn will help you understand the lights and improve upon your photography...
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I'm in :)
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Although I appreciate the concepts of smaller strobes, lighter gear, etc...and the challenges that present themselves when using such, please entertain my thoughts on the subject. As I understand it, the concept of "strobist" is to use available light in conjuction with "created" light for the "image". In essence, is not the "final" image what it is all about? At times, smaller strobe usage requires many including an abundance of stands, triggers/receivers to where a couple bigger, more powerful lighting equipement will not only afford for better exposure issues but in the end, a more pleasing final image. Many times we mix and match both types of lighting for a desired look. If one wishes to shoot say at f/10 @ ISO 100 and knock the ambient out of the picture (sorry for the pun) then just how many flash guns with miniature modifiers are needed? If shooting outdoors to overcome bright sunlight, again, the amount of equipment (not to mention the cost of such) presents new challenges and at times will NOT provide the necessary lighting as that of larger light sources.
Yes, I'm in agreement for the strobist concepts but in the end, the final image is paramount. We implement so many ideas and set ups throughtout each outing that makes these meetups invaluable for experimenting, learning, sharing and growth to the profession. I wouldn't trade it for the world......but limiting ourselves may present substandard imagery, which should never be the end result.
Just my two cents.
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Please count me in.
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Please add me to the list.
I'm more of a monolights indoors lighting guy up to this point, but working through the challenge of location lighting is fun and seems to lend itself to hotshoe flashes a lot of the time. But I don't know if I'd want to restrict what tools people use.
An open area like a beach where people have plenty of room to spread out and pick their spots might be cool to try. It would be nice to have some models on hand in case the idea of approaching people doesn't work. (Good idea, though.)
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We can also choose a beach location somewhere in the suburbs which maybe less busier, so maybe prior lake or eagan (lebanon hills park) or if we want models maybe we can try the hidden beach (cedar lake) near uptown.
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I'd like to chime in along TJ's lines and suggest a "run and gun" shoot. Strobist is about portability and small lights. We've had a few with the monoblocs, lets go for a meetup as portable as possible, and have it as a mobile venue in Saint Anthony or Lowertown Saint Paul....somewhere with varying scenery and lighting that requires us adapting our setup (ie. gelling, varying heights, etc...)
P.S. I'm in
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Please add me to the list. Thanks
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Please add me to the list also.
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Ben, yes, I'm always in. :)
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For a shoot idea, I still like the county fair idea. I just do not know how to pull it off.
Another idea my wife has is boating or the weekend cook out, garden party, pool party, etc. Things of summer: Baseball, mainstreet in a small town.
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I'll take a spot on the list.
Thanks.
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ditto (add me)
Thanks!
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Anyone know anyone with a monster shack on a lake they would be willing to let us have the run of?
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I like PDUB's' idea of something where we have a lot of freedom of movement and the smaller lights would be more useful. I also like the idea of having some meetups be small-light-centric and some large-light-centric.
The Cedar Avenue bridge worked well last spring, but there's no power or facilities. That hasn't stopped us before, but it's something to keep in mind when setting up for makeup, etc.
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What about ft. snelling park under the mendota bridge.
Beach, trees, walking paths, picnic areas, walking bridges, bike paths, overhead bridge, River, Lake, power outlets for makeup.
I like it but would have to contact park office about group area and possible rental fee.
Also, we can have another shoot at Belzer's in the future.
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I like the spot under the Mendota bridge. All cars would need a State Park sticker. Not sure about the use of facilities though.
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Please add me to the July list. gracias.
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Please add me to the list as well.
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Please add me to the list, thanks.
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What's wrong with this setup? It was strictly speed lights, and we got some great results.
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Here's a thought: How about an 'outdoor' themed shoot? We could hit Fort Snelling under the bridge and do vignettes of walking, running, hiking, backpacking, etc. We'd want a good mix of male and female models and they would only need a minimum of hair and makeup, so they could do it themselves. That way we wouldn't have to worry about when the models were ready or if we had access to electricity.
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Remember that the Cedar Ave Bridge is sitting on Ft. Snelling State Park land and if you are parked in the lot there, you need a state park sticker.
What's happening up at the Fort itself at that time? How about that area or along the river in one of the St. Paul city parks in that vicinity?
Just tossing out some more fodder for discussion.
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Or, how about this?
www.fsmm.org/
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I'm all for the Fort Snelling shoot, but as Ben and TJ point out, this will involve a $25/car sticker.
Ben, perhaps we can commit to a couple of state park ideas over the next 12 mos to amortize the $25 expense.
Rick
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Can't you still get daily permits for $5 at the state parks?
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Count me in.
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I'm sure they still do day permits at the state parks. You have to be at one of the larger state parks to buy them.
The Fort Snelling Museum is only open Saturdays or M-F by appointment. I'm not sure we can get them to open their doors for us on a Sunday.
Rick. I think we can make sure there's at least one other state park event, but honestly, shouldn't we all have state park stickers on our cars already? We are photographers after all.
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www.dnr.state.mn.us/state_parks/fees.html
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[quote]but honestly, shouldn't we all have state park stickers on our cars already? We are photographers after all. [/quote]
That's true, Ben. An annual permit is a permanent fixture on my windshield. Hit 5 state parks last week alone. :)
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Then my vote is Fort Snelling state park, under the mendota bridge.
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Im open (no guns for Ben tho)
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I second the motion (for Fort Snelling State Park - Ben can have guns as far as I'm concerned).
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you should prolly mention that there's a need to purchase either a day pass or a sticker in the setup info (under Dues, perhaps?)...
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Does anyone know of a location near by that people with park stickers could meet up with people that don't want to buy park stickers to car pool? I agree with Ben that every photographer should have a sticker, but some of the models might not.
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We could meet at the Fort Snelling light rail park and ride
maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=&da...
I would imagine that on a sunday afternoon there would be plenty of open spots.
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Yeah. The light rail station would be a great spot to meet to carpool.
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I survived the surgery and will be there, I will be bringing alisha and possibly another model if there is room.
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Good to hear, grasshoppah! Who's Alisha?
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Alisha
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Oh! Yes please.
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So... What we're looking for in the models' wardrobes is outdoor clothing like hiking boots, shorts, sports tops, backpacks...
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Please count me in.
As for the light / heavy gear... my vote is that people bring what they want. To me, this group is about learning lighting, not necessarily imposing limitations on yourself (I shoot with big lights at home and prefer to learn on the gear I shoot on - especially when we shoot in sunlight where small strobes really limit your options). It seems that those who want to shoot only small lights can easily join together at any given shoot and ignore what others are doing. Having said that, I'm happy to go with the group if there are strong feelings that use of bigger equipment is an issue.
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Ben - small light or "no restrictions"?
I'd vote "small light" on this meetup for the reasons I'd previously stated above. I'm more interested in "run-and-gun" Strobist style since I'm primarily on the move from location to location fairly rapidly during my own shoots.
We can have the August meetup where everyone can bring their monoblocs.
Pat
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For this meetup. I want to restrict to small lights. We'll be shooting in open/dappled shade, so sun shouldn't be an issue. And for August, we can restrict to big lights (we'll obviously need to share.)
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Count me in please.
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Hey so I am new to the group and really would like to take part in this event how would I sign up?
Also Hey Ben long time no see!!
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Hi Holly, howzit goin?
So... Who's wrangling models this time?
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I'm bringing one for certain maybe a second.
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I have most of the models wrangled up. I just have to confirm now that we have a theme. I will have the list in a day or two.
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Sweet! Thanks Kurt!
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Does someone have the MUA's covered?
Also, are we planning on meeting under the Mendota Bridge on Snelling Lake Rd?
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We're skipping the MUAs since we're doing something simple; outdoor sports. I mean, how many people get made up to go for a hike?
Yes, that's exactly where we're meeting, there's a nice parking lot.
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Confirmed models so far are:
Alisha (listed)
Blake
Rachel
Landyn
Katie
Donny West
Emma
Michelle
I still have several that I am expecting to hear back from and I am shooting for a total of 10 "for sure models".\
Updated 7-16-09
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I just updated the description for everyone to arrive at 2:00. Thanks for pointing that out. Not that makeup would be inappropriate, just something that looks fairly natural should work well.
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Nicole has volunteered to work as freelance MUA for this event. She will provide one look of makeup or hair for $20.
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PS. Ben wishes he really looked like the photo he linked to! Giggle!
"for sure models" funny!
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where do i get a state park sticker?
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Outdoor sports...are mountain bikes appropriate there (never been there)?
If so, does anybody want to bring a decent bike or two? (I'd bring mine, but they are $65 walmart specials.)
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@Kurt16: I've got Amy (from the CAF shoot in May) who also wants to show up on Sunday. I'll let her know when and where to show up.
I can bring two mountain bikes (mine and a smaller Trek) if we need a couple of extra props for the outdoor theme...
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@muanicolefae:
Permits may be purchased:
In person at any state park, metro REI locations in Bloomington, Roseville and Maple Grove, or at the DNR License Center, 500 Lafayette Road, St. Paul.
By phone with a call to the DNR Information Center at (651) 296-6157 (Twin Cities metro area) or toll free 1-888-MINNDNR (646-6367).
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REI sweet! Thats close to me! Tell all your models about the sweet offer that I am giving them. I promise that makeup is SOOOO worth it!
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I can't make it on Sunday, please remove me from the list.
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muanicolefae: Hey! That is totally me!
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@dshootist1. That sounds pretty cool. Is it a good environment for those kind of shots? I've never been there. If so, that's awesome, because that's something I'd like to try along the lines of outdoor sports....
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I have at least 4 models that don't have park stickers that would like to car pool into the park. I can carry 3, would someone else like to meet up to bring in anyone else? The Fort Snelling light rail park and ride mentioned by Scott would work.
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@Kurt16 I can help out, email me
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I have to bow out, I have another shoot Sunday.
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I am going to have to skip this one, please remove me from the list.
Have fun everyone.
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Kurt: I'll have room.
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I have a family thing that came up and can no longer make it.
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Can you buy a day pass to get into the park at the gate?
If not, I would like to meet up at the light rail park and ride in with someone. What time?
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I looked up the DNR website for the Park and printed out a map. When I called the office I was told someone would be there Sunday till 6pm and one day permits can be purchased there. Are we talking about meeting up on picnic island or by the visitor center?
www.dnr.state.mn.us/state_parks/fort_snelling/index.html
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I should be able to make it as well.
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By the visitor center.
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Don't forget the bug juice.
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Ben and Joel, If you guys can plan on being at the Fort Snelling Park and Ride at 1:30, that would be good for the car pool people that we have. I don't have a final list yet, but it sounds like there will be 3-5 people. So far the people looking to car pool are Landyn, Donny, Emma, and possibly Michelle.
I am still looking for a couple of more models to replace a couple that canceled, so if anyone knows of anyone, have them contact me or have them show up.
Thanks
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Please remove me from the list, I have had a change of plans.
Thanks!
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Nuts! Can't make it now today. Someday I'll make it to one.
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Hey guys, looks like the photographer / model ratio is a bit off, I'm going to do my part to rebalance and pass this month. Looking forward to the next one.
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MN Strobist /
Discuss
Sounds good.
I will put Alisha on the "tentative" list.
By the visitor center.
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