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...so what rock have you been living under ?
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To the clueless,
It is simple MS$ has never kept their hands off anything they have purchased. They are a quantity over quality business model along with extend, embrace and extinguish.
Don't be fooled for a moment thinking MS will not require their proprietary protocols on Flickr. How else are they going to extend their silverlight plugin over Flash?
They (MS$) have no clue about who Flickr people are and I doubt they care. Flooding Flickr with knobs and spammers - I am sure - will be fine with them.
MS$ has proven to be hostile to anything open or open source.
Further, reducing the internet to two power houses is not a good thing for competition or free enterprise.
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apeology
You are an idiot.
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where's charlie? [deleted] says:
Maybe he's 'that guy' that got vista working?
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You mean 'the one' guy that got it to work properly ?
Don't get me started ! I just wasted the last 8 hours of my life trying to get a frikken M$ Word document to keep it's formatting together while a programmer I working with traded revisions on an RFP across the Internet that I have been under deadline to get out the door.
He was on Vista, I was on Open Office on XP and M$ Word on OSX (mac) and it became a giant cluster-fuck. The Vista version of Office 2007 kept throwing in random 'page breaks' for no reason at all in the document transfers.
This is exactly the proprietary bullshit that M$ has created to maintain control of their final cash cow, Office. It is also the reason that anyone who has had to use M$ Office in a collaborative arena has learned to despise Bill Gates and Co.
*Tarky7 screams out the window*
"AAAauauauauuUGGHHH !!!!!"
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Quite right, just abuse the lad don't answer him...
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ososment
*LOL*
I can image a future with Flickr under M$ and it is indeed grim.
I have had to use the .Net thingy, and all the other 'Kluge' that comes with M$ and it's horrible 'click click click' of Active X (I think I can see the squirrels sometimes, if I look hard enough), the vast sea of Bloat from my M$ security updates as they make my hard drive smaller and smaller by the day.
And don't get me started about the horror of IE6 a a web guy, have to go back in a browser time machine to see what the websites I have built look like in IE6.
A better way for me to educate Mr. Apeology would be just to dick-slap him a bit until he wakes from his sleepwalking !
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This is a good question. I was very anti-microsoft when I a stupid teenager. But I think now, I do not mind, because I do not use their products. Except I have an account on MSN, but I use another software to access to it. I am not anti-microsoft because I just do not use it. But I do not want to be forced to use it. And I do not want this union to happen.
So let's be clear. Avoid paranoia and hysteria. There are lots of fears in this acquisition. Let's talk about it.
First, it is very dangerous that a big software company gets a big internet services company. For example, let's take Flickr. You can develop third party programs and access to Flickr. The API is opened. It means you can use the software that you want to upload your pictures for instance. And for me I would never use a software done by a internet service company (for lots of reasons, concurrency may lead to more innovation, better support...). This is just an example. I could take a more important subject. The compatibility of the browser with the website. Internet Explorer has often been a crappy towards the standards. Web developers hate IE. It is a fact. So each time you make a website, you basically, make things for a better browser and it should work everywhere, and then try to fix it for IE. Well, some also just do for IE. It happens, but it is usually bad websites. But imagine now that all the web sites of Yahoo! work only with IE?
Another aspect is the control of Microsoft on your pictures. Since according to the terms of service, nothing says that Flickr gets rights on your pictures, we should stay safe about the copyright issues. But still, I am scared. For example, I forbid, except to my friends and family, to access to my original picture. Just reduction. The original picture is for me a proof of precedence. But now, I know that Flickr has access to. I trust Flickr. Would I trust Microsoft? I am not so sure.
But there is also a reservation of rights from Flickr. This means that there could be censorship. And Microsoft does censorship.
But I guess there are lots of other things that are not so obvious that would make things even worse.
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make things even worse.
The Noxious Lies and FUD wafting from the mouth of Steve Ballmer ?
absolute and total corporate slime, the man is !
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He looks like a Micro$ dork spammer.
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'Dork, you said Dork'
heh heh
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Apeology's question is fair-to-ask. It may not be quite as simple as four-legs-good, two-legs-bad. If not far off it!
You might like to take a fresh look at what the flickr peeps say they don't know the answers to. flickr.com/help/forum/65474/
Now, we all know than Y! is cosy with certain governments we don't like. Microsoft is even cosier. That might go two ways. Because they have other, probably more efficient, means at their disposal to watch over us all, the atmosphere at flickr might get a bit more relaxed and we might enjoy more apparent freedom of movement. Alternatively we might find people in suits jumping on our heads a lot more. Fact is, we don't know, although we can probably guess.
But, it would be wrong to get hung up on JUST the civil liberties aspect. The US and EC governments who, like them or not we need as allies in this, are not exactly the most honourable libertarians themselves, no matter how pious they get about other places. They can be expected to have purely a big business view of the matter. It is anti-competitive or not? That is the way to go (and sadly I for one don't know the right lingo to conduct that argument) to retain what we have.
So, are there any disaffected (or even biased) business analysts around here?
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livhouse, the paronomeister™ edited this topic 52 months ago.
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Well, I've learned two lessons.
1) Microsoft = dickheads
2) People who hate Microsoft = also dickheads
Besides from Valentin David and livhouse, the paronomeister™, I still haven't seen a well composed argument. What a mess of internet, degenerate atavisms. There's no need to respond to my original question, because I'm not coming back to this cesspit.
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man ape goes mod edited this topic 52 months ago.
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Please Add Something to This and i will incorporate it into the body of the messge...
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where's charlie? [deleted] says:
He'll be sorry when he uploads a photo under the new regime, just ye wait and see.
Ye 'ave been warned, ye 'ave been warned.
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apeology wrote 1) Microsoft = dickheads
2) People who hate Microsoft = also dickheads
make the man an admin!
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He still looks like a Micro$ dork spammer.
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why? because he asked the perfectly reasonable question, why have you got your knickers in a twist?
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And I quote
"I still haven't seen a well composed argument"
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[this] [account] [has] [been] [deleted] says:
[farts into microphone]
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he may be a bit o' shill fer M$, but he kin make a nice pic...
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i hate looking up people's nostrils.
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Maybe he should shove some coffee under his own nose or at least buy a clue.
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Renan_Birck [deleted] says:
I guess that MS would likely turn Flickr into a "Windows Live" service... Yikes.
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Windows Live
shoots Steve Ballmer
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Microsoft just redid Hotmail in Firefox to (attempt) to lock out Linux users. Everything that they do is to "encourage" you to buy a Microsoft product. If this causes an increase in sales of a Microsoft product it is good for their business and investors.
When they buy a site with millions of users, messing with it so it is not compatible with whatever non-Microsoft product that you're using will provide them with more revenue. Or at the very least make something like Linux look as if it is not yet ready for desktop use because there are "compatibility problems". ..and hopefully increase Windows sales.
Open standards are available and can be used (OpenID vs Passport, Office document formats vs Oasis). Many companies use these (Yahoo!, Google) Microsoft has no incentive to use them.
So, it is up to the user to decide if there is any value added in what Microsoft provides and whether or not you want to lock yourself into an all Microsoft environment. It should (mostly) work together without a problem.
I prefer to stick to open standards wherever possible.
It isn't that any company, including Microsoft, is inherently evil. It is only a matter of how far they'll go to further their business needs over your needs as a user.
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You will be assimilated!
Resistance Is Futile!
"MicroBorg: Resistance Is Futile" by PayPaul(Leader Of The
WW Tribe) [?]
"Piccadilly Circus - Microsoft affect Coca-Cola ads" by Rosso (afka siamonesti) [?]
"Windows 3007" by imotov [?]
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