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scott howse  Pro User  says:

Hi there.

Looking for a bit of guidance if you will please. I was wondering about security restrictions (shooting on private land) regarding some areas of London. My main focal interset is Canary Wharf and the South Bank (Millenium Bridge area).

Where would it be best to shoot CW without being hassled by security personell? My aim is to shoot a CW skyline with the river in the foreground.

Any help or advice greatly appreciated.

Cheers

Scott
Originally posted at 8:39AM, 25 September 2011 PDT (permalink)
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champnet  Pro User  says:

Private Land covers most areas you're planning to shoot.
Just take your shots and see what happens.
If approached by Police or Security Staff or the ever present Jobsworth just be polite and move on.........
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cookecharlie says:

Hi there,

I don't have any exact advice on photographing the subjects you've enquired about but I stumbled across a great website for photographers in the UK regarding their rights & the law etc.

The link is - www.urban75.org/photos/photographers-rights-and-the-law.html

Have a look, I found it very informative and it even gives you hints and tips on how to deal with certain situations if they were to arise.

Good luck & enjoy shooting Canary Wharf & South Bank - In the past I've photographed South Bank just as the sun was going down and got some interesting shots of the graffiti & architecture that I was happy with, I think its a great place to explore :-)
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Rob Crane photos  Pro User  says:

The area around Canada Square and the Canary Wharf tube station etc is private property and they're quite rigorous about enforcing it, apparently.

South Bank is always heaving with photographers and I've never seen anyone stopped.
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scott howse  Pro User  says:

Thanks for the info folks. I guess I'm after the usual SouthBank shots (Milenium Bridge etc.) but what I'd really like is a shot of the skyline of CW from across the water.



This image is quite typical of what I'm after. I'm not sure where the photographer was stood here but it would be a good place to set up. With your knowledge would you say that security restrictions would apply here?

Cheers

Scott
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nictheartist73 says:

With a half decent zoom lens, you may be able to get this kind of shot from somewhere more public. Apparently, as long as you are on public land, you can take photos of pretty much anything, although the general advice is to stop/refrain from taking photos OF private buildings if asked by the owner. Just for manners' sake. And you may want to try unusual angles and points of view just to have something different from the typical postcard shot. The Canary Wharf buildings are big enough to be seen from a variety of places, so go experiment. Good luck!
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Mr Tudor  Pro User  says:

Apparently, as long as you are on public land, you can take photos of pretty much anything, although the general advice is to stop/refrain from taking photos OF private buildings if asked by the owner.

Not just apparently, but definitely. And as to "general advice" - where did that come from? - I would certainly ignore a request by a "security guard" to take pictures of 'his' building IF I am on PUBLIC LAND. You can find in the pavement in front of many/most office buildings (golden coloured) studs that show where public and private land meet. If you are on public land, you are untouchable, and don't let any job's worth in a yellow jacket tell you otherwise. If they continue to "harass" you, get out your mobile and call the police, who are now, at long last, in possession of the points of the law.

By "private buildings", do you mean ones that do not belong to a corporation? I might comply, after having explained the reason why I am taking pictures, but no way would I feel under any pressure to comply with the owners' requests, least not on a matter of principle as the law is on my side.

Folk should find this www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJH9F7Hcluo&feature=youtu.be little clip enlightening.

Also, photographernotaterrorist.org/
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scott howse  Pro User  says:

I've seen that Youtube vid before and it's right and correct that if you are on a public right of way you are free to do as you please.

However, have you seen this?...

www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_tSre3Tz5c

I take my hat off to this guy, putting himself in the thick of it.
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Lee Welton  Pro User  says:

I work on the Canary Wharf estate and have never had any hassle taking pictures there, they know it's a tourist area but prefer people not shooting the entrances for people and vehicles. Apart from that you'll be fine.

Taking pictures with the water in the shot you aren't even going to be on the estate (which is effectively and island) so won't get any hassle.
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sohvimus  Pro User  says:

Hmm... yeah, I would've thought to get photos of this skyline with water in front, you'd need to be across the Thames anyway. So the security guys probably would not know you're taking your photo.
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Topham-Brown Photography says:

Shot this from the walk way around the o2 while talking to two PCSO's, even got the tripod out in front of the main dome entrance.

Topham-Brown London at Night
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Dr Max  Pro User  says:

@Scott - the photo you linked to (Christopher Holt's) looks like it was taken from the riverside path next to the O2 (dome), looking west across the river.
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photomau5  Pro User  says:

Broadgate tower by photomau5


Sometime you should just ask security to let you in and be honest, worked this time after a million no's
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scott howse  Pro User  says:

Excellent, thanks Max.

Thanks for the inputs. Yeah walking around taking pics seems to fly under the radar I guess. It's when you start pulling tripods out, attach filters that zeal seems to come to the fore.

I'm not concerned about security if I'm on a public walkway (they can say what they like), it's just knowing where to stand exactly. I'm sure many of us know the law. My main problem (coming from Bristol) is knowing where to park (the car) and ride, getting to and from where I want to be and back to car again to hit the M4 back west.

Oh yeah, the Lloyds building is defo on the list, Ive seen some close perspective long exposures of this attractive building which tells me it should be possible.
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scott howse  Pro User  says:

Apparently shooting in CW is now fine.

www.flickr.com/photos/gilesmcgarry/6344889818/in/contacts/
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Mr Tudor  Pro User  says:

Most interesting, that.
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Hawk900  Pro User  says:

Scott & whoever wants one
Feel free to copy & print this out, I always keep one on me if you get any whingers just show it to them, they soon go away ;)

Print a couple out & keep them with you when taking pics in public. The moaners soon shut up after reading it!
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