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Very cool. If I wasn't already busy with other projects I would be tempted to try one. Even though It's way outside my normal era/region of choice it would be fun to do. At the very least I'm looking forward to all the great MOCs this challenge will bring.
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Looks tricky all right. I need to decide whether this will be my first attempt at a "large" loco, or whether I should stick with my current project. Anyway, I thought this GA diagram might come in handy for those who give it a go.
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Yeay, we want full internal detailing! Only joking
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If only I had lego train parts. Oh well. Maybe someday.
By the way, gambort, I can't say this on your 'stream since you've blocked me, and although we aren't the best of contacts, I must declare that your DL 44 locomotive really impressed me. I'm thinking of picking up the train theme and that has really inspired me. So sleek in a squarish way! I saw some really cool techniques I wouldn't have thought of in a quadrillion years. Great work, man.
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- Now why'd you have to go and give Cale a picture of the power plant? Might as well give up now. :P
- Bad form.
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Thanks so much for scanning and uploading that.
Banned! And for further explanation Raphy isn't even allowed on flickr and acts like a loud child. Which he is. I'm not after that in this group.
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Now why'd you have to go and give Cale a picture of the power plant? Might as well give up now. :P
Ha ha ha. : ) If only I had time. But I want to try and get a B&O steam engine built before Thanksgiving for WamaLTC's display at the B&O RR Museum's Festival of Trains. Not saying I wont give it a try at some point but it'll be unlikely to make the challenge.
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Yikes! Another one! And I'm still finishing my 2-4-0...
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^ At least this one is easily CADdable.
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Do you guys feel you have enough time for this? I'd rather add an extension now rather than later to keep things fair.
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If you extend the deadline I'll just procrastinate for longer ;-)
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I'm working on an entry. I don't think there's much point in moving the deadline into December. Most people will be busy enough with the festive season.
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I'm not sure I'm going to have time to try for this, but extending the deadline wouldn't help. I already had two engines in the pipes when this came up, in addtion to my real life responsibilities. I'll make one if I can, though.
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Nudge, nudge!
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Say no more...
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Ever ridden behind a Class 66, eh?
...wot's it like?
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Heya, I might not have enough parts for this, but is it alright to use Ldraw/CAD?
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^ Of course provided it is buildable. Obvious SNOT doesn't need to be spelled out but anything remotely tricky should be there in full.
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Not long to go now ;)
Could we possibly have a shout out please from those of you who will be submitting entries?
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I'm afraid other projects have taken over. All I have is a picture of a cab on a messy worktop... and I probably won't see my bricks again until mid December...
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Working in progress on Ldraw. Half way done. Check out my latest update. Nothing fancy. The only thing Im worry about is the roof of Class 66. We'll see how I would tackle that. :P
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To add to Carl's question would an extension help? I realise this is a really hard challenge and a little more time might help people finish off.
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I'm hoping to get something in, but after over a month I still haven't got the bogies right! I found what I had in pieces on the floor this morning (courtesy of my cat) so I'll be forced to rebuild them anyway. I have some ideas for the body and the roof; I just need to get them down in the brick. Not sure about an extension...a few extra days might help...
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An extension wouldn't do me much good I'm afraid. I'm moving house in a few weeks as well (if the builders ever finish...) so unless you're extending to Easter I won't be able to enter.
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Looks like it's between you and me ;)
Surely there must some others working on this...Tim and Carl, are you guys at least putting in an entry?
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^ I never worked out a decent nose design so haven't built one. With an extension I might be able to get something made but there's no guarantee.
I knew it wouldn't be a big challenge as it's so specific. I might extend it by two weeks and try to twist some arms. Are you two OK with that?
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^ Too much time spent on your Jinty (time well spent, mind you). I could handle a 2 week extension...it would take the pressure off and give me time to do some half-decent decals.
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Extension granted.
^ I've been looking at the 66 for many years and I've still not worked out a face solution I'm happy with. The Jinty was only a day's work with ordering and tweaking taking the rest of the time.
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^ The nose is all I have really, you're welcome to use it if you like it.
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^Interesting, nose doesn't seem to be much of a problem but its the roof I'm having hard time with. Ive thought of many idea but it end up too big or too small. =/
^^I don't mind 2 week extension. Give me more time to applied more details and work on undercarriage a little bit more.
^^^I'm looking forward to see your MOC, scruffulous. :)
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Since I'm not likely to finish I'll share something I had an idea for. Hinge a set of 50950 with the thin end of the wedge in the center to make the roof shape. It may work.
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^ I'm using 50950s for my roof, but I'm using them the other way round...I extend the thick (flat) end of the slope with a 1x tile, and hinge a group of these together so the tiles form the peak of the roof. Works well for 7-wide.
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Due to current projects both personal and work I simply dont have time to produce an entry.
I built 2 of these in 6 wide 2 years ago, I didnt like the way they looked when running on my layout so demolshed them after 2 weeks.
The roof and cab ends are the real problem parts of this design.
The roof design I used at 6 wide was a combination of 1 wide tile along the top for the flat, 2 wide tiles angled down from these on hinges for the first angled part shape and cheese wedges on the ends of these for the second part of the angle. This led to a problem for the end apex shaping, plus I was never entirely happy with the cab end shape.
If I was to ever re-visit this build, I'd certainly look at 7 wide for it as I think its more acheivable to get a correct shape after the problems I had in 6.
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I see. Im currently working on 6 wide version. So far got into cab stage and its not really looking good. I tried my best to simplified it but no go. The angle of the nose vs window angle is really hard to achieve. So, Im think I might go back to 7wide and try again. My past experience with 7widers is that I have a lot problem with window solution but I will get around it.
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^^ I had the same problem; I had a similar idea for the roof and I have cab but I'm not sure how to combine the two...
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That, guys, is exactly the reason this challenge was set ;)
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After messing around with nose/window idea, I think I got idea. I will post my example later today.
I think I still need to try this out with bricks tho. Just to make sure it works and all.
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Is this a contest or a collaborative build?
The fact that there is judging implies that it is a contest between individuals, and suggests we should all keep our designs secret, revealing nothing until the last minute. However, a few of the comments indicate that some of us at least are willing to share our design ideas. During this challenge, because there are so many difficult components (e.g. bogies, roof, nose, doors), I started thinking it would have been interesting to have run each component as a separate sub-challenge to facilitate the sharing of ideas before individuals came up with their final design. It would have made it more of a collaborative challenge rather than an individual contest.
Any interest in doing something like this in the future? Shouldn't be too hard to find another prototype that is just as challenging, although it might be difficult to find one that is quite as ubiquitous.
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True. I guess I will save it for later then.
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^^ You raise the issue that makes me dislike contests. I prefer to run things as challenges (where collaboration is encouraged) rather than contests. But some people seem to like contests so I made it one.
I am happy to do no judging and just offer feedback instead. It seems a bit silly with just two entrants anyway. Up to you guys.
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PS. And w,r,t, your idea I like it but I fear it might be a bit too much work on the behalf of the organiser. Most of my mini-challenges do, in fact, have a specific goal in mind even if it's totally selfish and I don't spell it out ;)
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^^ While it is difficult to resist the lure of the "special award picture" ;), I'm happy to give up on the contest and just post my ideas for feedback (although I'm so busy with work, then beach, that I probably won't be able to post anything until next week). It does seem silly having a contest between just the two of us. What do you think Nerohound?
^ I agree the administration side of it would be potentially time consuming. You would also want (or need) more buy-in than this challenge got, although breaking it up into smaller bites and allowing participants to come and go might make it more appealing. I always thought your mini-challenges were thinly veiled, self-serving attempts at something...but I've never been able to figure out what that something is...;)
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Well, cmon, Just got out of dark ages and decided to take up this challenge to refresh me with lego. D:
I suppose it cant help. I will still continue doing this. As for collaboration, I think, as gambort said, with two entrants, seem to be ideal. I mean, we got deadline extended couple time. I dont mind sharing my secret or whatsoever, but then again, contest is fun if we got more entrants.
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IMO the two of you are winners just for giving it a go. I'm too scared ;)
I'm sure that Tim, Carl and I can declare a winner if you really want it. As I said above (and have mentioned before) I'm always a little unkeen on it but I did say we would declare a winner and will be happy to do so.
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Declare the winner that completed it. I cant be "winner" if my MOC isnt completed. :P
Edit: My previous comment mention that I got a idea brewing... Guess what? It worked in real bricks. Just you wait till I put it in CAD and get the rest of the body finish. :)
Also will be taking pic of the real brick for future presentation.
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I'm happy with whatever people would preffer. I dislike comps a lot, thats why you will rarely ever see me enter one (unless its something I have on my "to do" roster) although I'm happy to judge one!
I was afraid this challenge would only get a few entries and I also view it as a bit silly to try and judge just 2 people.
As ideas were thrown in, I thought it only fair to throw mine in to.
I've said to Tim and Tim that I dont actually think this build is possible to the standards we personally look for in 6 or 7 wide hence throwing it out here to be proved wrong :)
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Since Nerohound seems keen to continue the comp, here is a teaser to give you an idea where I'm at. Probably reveals too much (e.g. the livery for a start), but should give you a feel for the shape.
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Im after dark red livery so that should keep things different. :)
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I discovered the contest with 2 days left and am busy with a GP18 and a Class J. Still I can't wait to see the result.
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Just a last minute reminder. There's something like 48 hours left for this challenge. Although I won't be checking until the 16th as I get tomorrow before everyone else.
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^ Phew!
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Nerohound> Are you ready to post?
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Not really. I decided to give in. Its really too difficult. I can post my incomplete Class 66, but to be honest, its really shattered to pieces by Scruffulous' godly creation. 8)
I will be continue working on it and hopefully turn it into real brick someday soon. For now, its incomplete and will be put aside for something else.
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Up to you if you wanted to post. I just didn't want to shut this down if you were going to scrape one in. Anyway...
--------- DONE ----------
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While it was a win by default I will have it on record that scruf's model would have been a very, very, very hard one to beat even with 100s of entries.
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Totally agreed.
Nero, I'd still be interested in seeing where you got to with this and also with Dug's? You never know, one of you may have had a great concept going on somewhere within one of them?
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No worries, I will take a pictures with examples bricks and my MClad.
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Nose example in real bricks.
Version one: Found out that its too big. But can be great application for other engine model. Notice that the gap between the front and the angle brick can be fill in with 2x2 hinge (the thick of it will close the gap, also can work as stripping if desirable.)
Version two: This worked out ideally for Class 66. Unfortunately though, it does not really cope with the design nose of Class 66. Again, this will be great application for other model as well. This is very tight connections.
More example on my photostreams. My Mlcad has not taken picture yet, but I will later today.
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^ Thanks :) Sorry I missed this until today. Some good ideas there which I'm sure others can use.
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Here's one that no-one made a model of
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