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That weekend should be good for me.
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Count me in.
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I've never been to a Strobist meetup before, but would love to attend!
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I'm a maybe!
Dave
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I haven't yet been to a Strobist meet-up, but I would like to join you at that weekend.
-Petra
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Yeah, that should work for me.
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I'm in too!
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Well, that's 7 total including me, almost critical mass! If we get one more that's two groups of four. A few questions:
1) Does anybody want to lead a group? I'm no expert but I'm organizing so I guess I'd better put my hand up to lead one of them.
2) Does anybody want to coordinate models? So far we'll need two.
3) Does anybody have any experience with local parks departments? I'm going to contact the BH parks next week to see how they feel about the idea.
Should be fun!
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I did some basic research on this before. Technically, public (city/state) parks will require a permit to use stands or equipment that could potentially impede traffic (foot or otherwise).
To get a permit, you will need to show you have general liability insurance. I believe most photographer's and business insurance, carries the minimum amount of insurance which is $1M, so if any professional photographers want to offer to get the license then we should be good to go.
Often, the hardest part about getting a permit is finding out who is in charge of issuing them. There's a web site for CA state parks, but for the city ones I'm not sure. Each city has their own permit issuing department, usually their Media relations or marketing departments.
Otherwise, we can just shoot using lights on VALs and be ready to move quickly if someone asks us to. IEither way, i'm still in. If each group has 4 people then that's 3 lights and one photographer for each set up. Works for me.
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If I'm not interning that weekend I'll go.
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Just shoot without permits. Don't call and ask just do it. It will help if the group stays small though.
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I'm new to LA strobist, and haven't gone to a meet up. You can count me in.
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I'd love to go and meet some of you. I haven't been to a meetup yet so I'd be very interested in trying it out. You can count me in.
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Well I have photography insurance that covers state, and federal parks liability requirements. So can always submit that for strobist if we needed to at anytime. City to city is different. NY being strict, no tripods in the square without permit. I never used it, but I have insurance if we need it.
Were are we thinking of going?
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Hi. What other pieces of the puzzle are missing? I have never been to any of the LA strobist events so I am wondering in what areas I or others can help in? Is there a model release form? Is there a photographer release form (if needed)? Should we start searching for models or does someone already have a contact? Please let us know so we can make a joint effort.
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Personally, I wouldn't worry about the permits either. I mean there's no money being made here. IMHO think the biggest concern (from police) is people getting hurt tripping over gear and what not. I think if we just stay lean and mobile, there shouldn't be any problems.
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Hi kevinsarayba, there's actually a web site that covers a lot of your questions! :)
www.lastrobist-models.com/
There is a model release form that we've been using at these meets, but if you have your own, feel free to use them too.
I think we just need to decide on the specifics: meeting location, time. Once that happens then we can start putting a call out for models.
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Hey, Kangster (it's Mike right?). Yes, I have been following that thread (I should have posted there as well). Thanks!
...but the release isn't up on there just yet.
Anyway, I was just wondering how I could help. Just let me know.
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Hehe, sorry, I thought it was up there.
Here's the thread with the release we used at the last meet.
www.flickr.com/groups/lastrobist/discuss/72157604948104870/
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Hey Everybody,
Nice to see the interest growing. I'm out of town at the moment, but I'll be back next week and will do some scouting. I'm thinking Westside somewhere, to be (kinda) equidistant from Hollywood/Valley/Beaches. Maybe Cheviot Hills park on Motor, Roxbury Park in BH, or possibly Culver CIty.
@ kangster: Sounds like a plan re: models. Re: the time, I was thinking afternoon into evening so we can avoid toppy light and then practice balancing to ambient as the sun goes down.
Re: permits, insurance, releases, etc. I'm planning on doing a little research for my own education so I'll let you know what I find out. Sounds like some of you have more experience with this kind of stuff than I, so let's compare notes in a few days.
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Here's a quick head count:
mizz maze
kangster
butterjug2000
Petra Beatrix
brianr_001
kevinsarayba
JS Photography!
hkysk8r187
ANMPhotography
StrobeVisual
That's ten, so we've got room for two more. If I've missed anybody or if your status changes (especially the maybes), let me know. And if you'd like to lead a group, by all means, step right up!
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Hey guys. I may possibly be able to join you for that weekend. Wont know quiet just yet... but I will let you know.
Don't have enough Strobist skills to lead, but would love to learn more.
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Oops, I've got a conflict that weekend. You can remove me from the list.
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Count me in, too.
BTW, I added the model release form to the lastrobist-models.com website. This gives me another chance to ask for people here to contribute some text to the site.
Specifically:
* advice for models
* how to get your photos -- we need to set up a simple system for this so models don't have to chase down a dozen photographers for their shots.
IMPORTANT: Once the next meetup is firmed up, someone email me the details so I can add it to the site.
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Ok, still ten, with two open spots:
mizz maze
kangster
butterjug2000
Petra Beatrix
kevinsarayba
JS Photography!
hkysk8r187
ANMPhotography
basswork
StrobeVisual
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Don't forget me
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@ Bobby Analog: Your RSVP started with "if" so I counted you as a maybe... :-) Are you confirming?
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Yes
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I might be doing a shoot this weekend out here in Valencia or Santa Clarita area. It is open to all to join. The weather is going to be hot and nice so going to take advantage of it. I will post seperate topic if it happens on Sat or Sunday.
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@ANMPhotography I might be interested depending on the details. I'm actually spending the day Saturday with a buddy of mine and Vincent Laforet shooting what - I don't know.
Regardless you certainly are generous to share your shoots.
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Ok, let's settle this. Are we shooting Sat or Sunday. I'm good either way. It looks like it's going to be afternoon to evening. So let's start the voting.
Saturday: 0
Sunday: 0
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Saturday is good.
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Saturday: 1
Sunday: 0
Plus update the score in your reply :)
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Ah geez, I guess I never specified a day in my OP. I'm good either way too, so it's still:
Sat: 1
Sun: 0
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Either one works for me. I'll give a slight preference to Saturday, though.
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the same goes for me. I'm free on both days, but my preference is on Saturday.
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You can pencil me in. Light pencil, nonetheless
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Either day is good for me.
- Steve
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Either is fine for me too.
Saturday: 1 (2 pref)
Sunday: 0
Either: 6
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hmm, I'm gonna vote for Sunday because I got invited to the USC - UCLA game on the 6th.
Saturday: 1 (2 pref)
Sunday: 1
Either: 6
c'mon sunday! ;)
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Ok, we've got 12:
mizz maze
kangster
butterjug2000
Petra Beatrix
kevinsarayba
JS Photography!
hkysk8r187
ANMPhotography
basswork
Bobby Analog
Extra Medium
StrobeVisual
If anybody else is interested, let me know and we'll start a wait list in case anybody has to cancel.
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I'm down! Either day is fine.
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Well, I dropped by a few local parks over the weekend and this is what I learned:
Roxbury Park - Forget it, they barely listened to the request and pushed me toward the BH film office. The film office informed me that the park makes no distinction between amateur & professional photography.
Cheviot Hills - They were extremely friendly and thought it would be no problem but referred me to the film office just in case. They were also very friendly and said as long as no money is changing hands then go ahead and knock yourself out, just don't take any pictures of kids without permission.
I'll take some photos of potential locations & post them here in a bit. Here's the website:
www.laparks.org/dos/parks/facility/cheviotHillsPk.htm
In the meantime, if anybody has any other suggestions, by all means post them.
Cheers,
J
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Cheviot Hills park sounds good to me. If for some reason that doesn't work, there is a park in Westwood that I don't see listed (across Wilshire from the Veteran's Memorial Cemetery).
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PS - I change my preference to Sunday. Family thing came up for Saturday...
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Either day works for me. Looking forward to it. I've been wanting to go to one of ANMPhotography's shoots too, but the last one got canceled because LA was on fire
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Ok, should we just call it Sunday, December 7? How about 2-5pm? That gives us some afternoon light and by 5pm it's pretty dark.
Sound good?
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Put me down for the wait list? My schedule is sort of always in the air, but I do enjoy these things.
3hrs seems somewhat short to me. I thought prior meet ups were longer.
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The meetups I've been to tended to go from about 1 to 6ish. Starting at 1 seems like a good idea to me.
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Just curious as I have never been to a Strobist meet up... How long do the models usually stay? Does it get tiresome for them to model for more than 2 hours or is this something they are used to? Again, just an idea... Would it be ideal to have sets (1st set from 1-3:30 and 2nd set from 3:30 to 6)?
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,: Gotcha, you're on the alternate list.
, my experience has been that the models generally stay the entire time, and yes, a break is nice; maybe somebody can bring a cooler & we can chip in for some refreshments?
, I agree, a little longer would be better. Sunset is around 4:45 though, so by 5pm it's pretty dark.
How does 1pm-5pm sound? Gives people time to each lunch & travel beforehand, and if we want to shoot after dark, we can always continue.
If we're 3 groups of 4 photographers and we rotate models so that each model gets to work with each group, we could still get in three 1 hour sessions with an hour left over to get organized, rotate, take a break, etc.
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I think 1-5 is good.
Glad to see so many people are up for this meetup. Do we really need to limit photographer attendance?
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Hey Mizz Maze...
I wasn't going to say anything but since you brought it up I will through my 2 cents worth in. I think there should be no limit. I think the Seatle Strobist group gets something like 70-100 people!
Surely if Seatle can handle it L.A. can!
Dave
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I don't necessarily think there ought to be a limit either. Also, there are always no shows. Life happens. :)
@Luminon Photography yeah I heard those seattle ones are crazy AND I think they even charge money to attend.
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I agree with Mizz Maze, Dave, and Mike but at the same time I understand StobeVisual's direction of being organized. I think I read in one of the earlier posts that there were more models than there were photographers. So, I assume the intent was to have/ensure 4 photographers to a model. Maybe the waiting list should really signify there is a need for 2 more photographers (ideally). Again, I have not been to a strobist event but I am just adding to the brainstorm.
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Ok, the people (well, at least some of them...) have spoken!
I originally figured 15 people (12 'togs + 3 models) would walk the line in terms of drawing attention in a public space, but after talking it over with kangster, we decided up to 20 photographers could work. That would be 5 groups of 4, with one model per group for a total of 25 people. That makes our current count 14, with 6 spaces left.
I took some snaps of the park today, and kangster & I will drop by this Sunday and scout it out to see how busy it is. If you'd like to join us, shoot me a flickr mail.
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I'm in!
Got here late and I thought I wasn't gonna make the cut, shows me...
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kangster - I'm good for Sunday the 7th.
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Something just came up for the 6th, so for now my preference is for the 7th. (Though my something is nearby, so if it is the 6th, I may stop, just not for long.)
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Hey Gang, here's a summary of where we're at:
When: Sunday, December 7th, 1-5pm
Where: Cheviot Hills Park, corner of Pico & Motor on the westside
Who: 20 photographers total + 5 models
Current # of photographers attending: 15
Open spots: 5
List of photographers attending so far:
1. mizz maze
2. kangster
3. butterjug2000
4. Petra Beatrix
5. kevinsarayba
6. JS Photography!
7. hkysk8r187
8. ANMPhotography
9. basswork
10. Bobby Analog
11. Extra Medium
12. Joshua Gunther
13. tschundler
14. krissucks
15. yours truly, StrobeVisual
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I've been to a few meets (not here) where organizing into mini-groups on the day was a little tricky, so here's a form to help gather a bit of knowledge beforehand:
spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?key=pWCgqhHoXuFaWjA2Vp6C-XA
Please fill it out if you're planning to attend - it's just a little information about amount of gear, type of gear, level of experience, etc.
Thanks!
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I'm going to pop over to Cheviot Hills Park this Sunday at 2pm to check out the weekend action. Might not be representative as it's a holiday weekend, but gonna drop by just the same. If anybody wants to meet up, let me know.
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I'm down! that's right next to my house!
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Unfortunately I don't think I can go.....stand blew over at Vasquez and my SB-600 got aquainted with rock......flash tube is broken :(
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There have people at meets before without flashes, there to learn from others. Passing around transmitters is common.
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Hi All:
Been trying to get it together to join you on one of these shoots, but I usually visit your forum the day after you've had one :-)
I'll fill out your form, I have enough gear for one setup, Probably have to leave right at 5 or maybe a few minutes before.
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I dropped by the park today and there were a few soccer games, a dog show (!), and a few BBQs on, but it wasn't very crowded and there were plenty of places to shoot so that bodes well for next Sunday.
Now, MODELS... Let's go for 5 models. Who can help arrange?
@ Bobby Analog: You'll be fine if you just bring a camera. There's more than enough gear in each group and as tschundler said people are happy to pass around the trigger.
@ Dennis_Lee & hermosawave: You're in!
Updated list of shooters in the OP. Total is 17. (I'm keeping you on the list for now Bobby, so let us know if you still can't make it.)
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I have to back out :( So disappointed, but it can't be helped.
Hopefully we'll do one in January or February that I can make. Have a great time everyone.
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Ok, thanks StrobeVisual. I'm gonna try call Nikon Parts tomorrow and see how fast I can get a flash tube replacement. Supposedly they are only $10 and I've already disassembled it, hopefully they can get me one by thurs or fri.
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Hey guys, my company just told me that they scheduled our Christmas party for that Sunday, and due to the geography of where I live and the party I wont be able to make it anymore. Wanted to tell you now so that someone else can take my spot. I'm really bummed out. If you guys end up going Saturday instead then I can make it.
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Hey all, I'm pretty new to the whole strobist movement and just stumbled across the LA group. Any chance there'd still be room for me at the meet up this Sunday?
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I'd imagine you could take my spot. My 5D Mark II just arrived too and I can't make it :(
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@ John in LA, definitely, you're in. There are still a few spots for others as well, since we haven't hit 20.
@ hkysk8r187, Too bad you can't make it, you'd probably be more popular than the models with that new camera... :-)
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StrobeVisual: Great! I'll go fill out that form now...
hkysk8r187: Thanks for the heads up. Bummer about the conflict, but at least now you can get some sweet high ISO low light shots at the xmas party!
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OK guys here is what I have coming to model on Sunday. If you guys have a theme you want let me know will forward info to models.
Emily
Ashley
Ashley Friend Male
Jessica
Anna (3pm show)
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I can't make it, so someone can have my spot.
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The weather is looking fine for Sunday and we've got models confirmed, so we're good to go. Thanks to everybody who filled out the spreadsheet - we'll have about a 50-50 mix of Canon & Nikon shooters, and plenty of umbrellas & stands. Empty your flash cards, charge your batteries, and pack your gear!
Let's meet here at 1pm on Sunday. Plenty of parking, and a short walk to most of the locations. We'll talk for a few minutes, divide into groups, and get going.
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You guys should do a group shot. That Vancouver group is kicking our asses.
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sweet I'm stoked!!! See you guys Sunday!
BTW is anyone going to be filming out fun filled day. Might make a cool youtube video to show all the other strobist's groups what we are about!
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Looking forward to it!
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Hey guys. I really hate to do this, but it looks like work is gonna have me tied up tomorrow (was supposed to finish a project today, but the client has us working tomorrow).
There's a chance I can get out of it by 1 but can't guarantee it, so if someone wants my spot please take it.
Sorry @StrobeVisual and @ANMP and anyone else who worked to put this together, I hate to bail on an opportunity like this.
Y'all shoot yer asses off tomorrow. Y'hear?
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won't be down that weekend... maybe next month.
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A few thoughts for Sunday:
1) Seriously, charge your batteries, and bring spares.
2) Bring a dozen or so business cards or business card-sized pieces of paper so you can share your contact details with the models or other photographers.
3) Label your gear. With everybody pitching in it can get confusing, especially when it starts to get dark.
4) You'll probably want to eat beforehand or throw an energy bar & a bottle of water in your bag. We might take a break around 3 if everyone wants a rest, but as far as I know there is no food available at the park.
5) Bring your camera, lenses, flashes, triggers, umbrellas, stands and any modifiers you have. Gear probably won't be a problem, but it will be nice to have options.
6) Come with an idea - think up something (or a few things) you'd like to try.
7) Be ready to pitch in to hold a stand, reflector, or whatnot. We're going to have a good photographer-model ratio, but everybody won't be shooting 100% of the time.
8) Forecast is cloudy and a bit cool.
9) I'll be the tallest guy there, so introduce yourself when you see me.
Alright, let's shoot!
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Can't wait! See you all tomorrow!
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I'm sorry to cancel at the last minute. Family health issues are keeping me close to home tomorrow.
I look forward to all the brilliant work!
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Well, Nikon's customer service has let me down big time. Apparently it takes longer than 5 days to ship something 100 miles. I'll show up, will bring my reflector and umbrella but will be there mostly to learn. If any of you need a gopher or someone to hold something I'll be more than willing to help out. See you guys tomorrow.
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Hi Everybody,
I've created a followup thread:
www.flickr.com/groups/lastrobist/discuss/72157610882637304/
See you over there.
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dang i just found this group and i missed out on the meet :(
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