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Photographers' Right Rally this Sunday Downtown Los Angeles
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While shooting in downtown LA recently, a fellow photographer was harassed for taking photos from a public sidewalk.
So to help educate some people about our rights we are gathering this Sunday afternoon in downtown Los Angeles.
Please bring your cameras and any type of video camera or audio recorder so we can have a record of what happens.
Location and Time:
Pershing Square, Downtown Los Angeles at 2pm
Posted at 5:43PM, 16 January 2009 PDT
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I'm planning to show-up after the Doo Dah Parade in Pasadena. Hopefully we'll be able to bring some interested folks from that flickrWalk to downtown. Here is a handy flyer for everyone to download and bring with them:
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*** A Downloadable Flyer Explaining Your Rights When Stopped or Confronted for Photography:
www.krages.com/phoright.htm
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Posted 41 months ago.
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Hey guys, let's use the tag, "npro-01182009," cool?
Originally posted 41 months ago.
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Bryan Villarin edited this topic 41 months ago.
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Well, we did it, and had a lot of fun.
I got there late, so I headed straight for where Bryan got hassled. I didn't see the group, so I took a few photos. Within a minute or two, this young lady showed up. When her questions went unanswered, she radioed in my wardrobe choices.
Not wanting to get the party started too early, I crossed the street. They put their best man on me. But I saw through his game. Literally.
When the rest of the group showed up, we began strategizing about a block away from where we were heading.
But before we could come up with a plan, this SG came out, saying the usual crap, you can't take photos of private property, etc. We were just standing there talking.
But, after some schooling, it was looking good. He seemed like a good guy, and I think he saw our point.
But then, my security guard from the other building came out of this one, and started the whole thing over again.
They said they called the cops.
So we called the cops.
Dave got an LAPD officer on the line, and asked him to explain our rights to the SGs. The officer agreed to do it, but the SGs wouldn't take the phone.
When we got to our original destination, we decided to stay all the way out by the curb, just to make sure we were not on private property.
Not good enough for these guys. We weren't there a few minutes before this guy showed up.
Then, this guy. The tough guy.
Came over to Discarted and asked for ID. The answer came back "no."
He insisted that the building owned the whole sidewalk down to the street!
After we were there a few minutes, this guy-- who wasn't there with us-- pulls out a camera. The guards told him he couldn't take photos.
Without a word from us, "it's a public sidewalk" was his response. It was beautiful. He hung out for a while, taking photos and giving the guards some grief along with us!
After a while, we called their bluff, and told them to call the cops. They never did.
I'm getting the stink eye from this SG, because I kept asking him when the cops were going to arrive.
At some point, we figured we had enough fun, and headed out to find a Starbucks. We were just walking up the sidewalk, when this guy came out of a side door on the building and said we couldn't take photos.
Posted 41 months ago.
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My photos from today's confrontations are up and I'm working on the blog post.
NoHoDamon - Great photos and recap! I wish I had a boom mic with a windscreen for the audio. It doesn't sound too great. =/
Posted 41 months ago.
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My recap is finally up.
Posted 41 months ago.
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Good going, guys. If we, as law-abiding photographers, don't get things back into proper perspective, no one is going to. Otherwise there will eventually be an "understanding" by all that we are breaking the law when we clearly aren't. Like we need more useless incidents to tie up our courts!
Posted 41 months ago.
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Good job guys. Wish I was there.
Question...has anyone contacted the owners of the property, security company, local news, press, la times, la weekly, etc. about what's been going on?
The only way these idiots change their ways is if they are forced to, either by embarrassment, lawsuit, or getting tired of photogs being out there every weekend.
Also, does anyone mind if i'm link this on my blog?
Marvin
Posted 41 months ago.
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David is doing the contact legwork with police, security, owners, etc. Discarted is talking with legal resources.
Also, does anyone mind if i'm link this on my blog?
I'd like to encourage linking the page.
Also, the photos above are mine, and have a Creative Commons license for non commercial, no deriv, credit, so it's definitely okay to use those. There are more if you follow the links-back to the set.
Anyone who wants to use them with regards to photographer rights has my express permission.
Posted 41 months ago.
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hell yes! I saw this "protest" announcement after it was over. sorry everyone. excellent work with the audio recorder. as much as I feel bad for the people "just doing their jobs," this has to end somewhere.
Posted 41 months ago.
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Feel sorry for them? Hmmm....maybe just a very little bit.
Let me explain....
This is not the first time that this has happened there and not the first time that Photographers have told the SGs that what they(photogs) are doing is legal. OK.....lets say that you are a SG with a normal IQ and this happens. Wouldn't you want to find out if what the photogs are saying is true. Maybe do some research?
We don't even know if the owners/bosses of the SGs are really telling them that we can't take pictures. For all we know they are just pulling it out of their asses.
Posted 41 months ago.
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Ha Ha! I didn't know about this...and earlier tonight, I walked down the step with tripod and camera mounted. I had been told a couple times before that "you can't take photos of the building, sidewalk or not"...so I got down to the bottom, and set up my tripod in the street. I was taking a picture of the steps, not pointed up at the building and out of the corner of my eye, I see the SG raise the walkie to her mouth. I grab the tripod and walk briskly down 5th street. I turn around when I'm almost at the intersection and I see her staring down the street at me. So ridiculous.
If we are in a high terror alert—I could understand. But we're not. An no one is gonna fly a plane into the US Bank Building.
Posted 41 months ago.
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NoHoDamon - Great photos and recap! I wish I had a boom mic with a windscreen for the audio. It doesn't sound too great. =/
David is doing the contact legwork with police, security, owners, etc. Discarted is talking with legal resources. 
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