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andycarvin is a group administrator andycarvin  Pro User  says:

Hi everyone,

Since a couple of people have already asked for help identifying plants and flowers they've photographed, I figured I'd start a discussion thread for that particular topic. Please post your photo - or at least a link - of the plant or flower you'd like the rest of us to figure out what it is, and we'll see who can identify it first.

Remember that when you click the "all sizes" button above your photo, you can scroll down and find the HTML code for displaying the image, which you can cut and paste directly into the discussion thread. Just be sure to use a small version of your photo so it doesn't fill up the entire screen.
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chez.karen says:



Hi there,

I saw these at the farmer's market. Are they mums or daisies, and how do you tell the difference? Thanks.

Karen
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greyaenigma  Pro User  says:

This one's been stumping everyone, although I don't expect it to stump Ketzel:
Alien Seed Pods
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Christine4nier  Pro User  says:

Okay, it's Friday afternoon and no one has responded. So I'll give the first two a shot and others can add on.

Karen:
Many of the flowers we call "daisies", including ox eye, shasta, and marguerite belong to genera divided from and once classified as "Chrysanthemum". The Chrysanthemum genus has been split up to include at least 5 other genera, including Leucanthemum, which contains most of our "daisies". Leucanthemums are white, so your lovely flower is probably some type of cultivar belonging to one of the other genera. After all that blabbing, I don't know even the genus of your flower. But I'd guess it's in the Chrysanthemum genus because it's so colorful. It just has the chrysanthemum "look". Anyone else want to guess?


greyaenigma:
Your plant looks like a member of the genus Mahonia, but I couldn't tell you the species for sure. The species called Oregon grape (M. aquifolium or Berberis aquifolium) is native to the northwest Pacific Coast, but most of the others are from Asia. It's a great pic, because the leaves are usually much darker and this photo has so many interesting colors. We had one planted in my garden as a child. They make nice clusters of yellow flowers in the spring.

FYI - Some Mahonia species, including Oregon grape and leatherleaf mahonia from Asia, have escaped cultivation and are considered to be invasive. They're closely related to the dreaded barberry, so maybe they can't help it.
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Jesse78 says:

I agree...that's a mahonia, greyaenigma.
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Jesse78 says:

I got this plant at a plant swap two years ago and was told it was ginger. The tubers don't look anything like the ginger one would eat and it doesn't match pictures of wild ginger that I have found. It spreads quickly and has a pretty bloom. Leaves are big and wide, similar to a canna's but not as thick.
Ginger (?)

Ginger (?)
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chez.karen says:

Christine4nier:

Thanks for your reply. You must be right--they're some variety of chrysanthemums, though I tend to think of mums as more pom-pom looking than daisy-like. They are very colorful and vibrant autumn blooms, something I had expected of foliage, not flowers.

Jesse78:

Sorry to be useless at identifying plants, but it is a gorgeous bloom, orchid like. Have you tried sniffing the leaves? I just know that the leaves of a garlic tuber smells very garlicky.
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Christine4nier  Pro User  says:

Jesse78:

The plant looks like a type of garden flower turmeric (mmmm....). I believe it's part of the genus Curcuma, which is part of the ginger family (Zingiberaceae). I guess it's not wrong to call it "ginger", even though it doesn't have those compact cone-shaped flowers and canna-like leaves of the most common gingers. Maybe you could try harvesting it, although you do have to dig up the rhizomes for that. But that could be one method of control if it's spreading quickly and you like curry. :-)
A quick search on Curcuma brought up this page, which shows different species and cultivars. www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/Curcuma
It's hard to tell from the photo exactly. Does that look right?
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getthebubbles  Pro User  says:

Hi,

This plant was growing in Long Beach, California, USA in a sidewalk planter. It was about 6 feet tall, a tree, with yellow flowers and long podlike growths superior to the flowers. the pods resembled vanilla beans?

strange pod plant 2

strange pod plant 1
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andycarvin is a group administrator andycarvin  Pro User  says:

Here's one for you:

PIC_0164.JPG

I photographed it yesterday at the Brookside Gardens north of Washington DC. I'm fairly sure it's a member of the passion flower family, passiflora foetida, but not 100% positive. Can anyone confirm?
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getthebubbles  Pro User  says:

- it looks like a passion flower to me.
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rosetry845  Pro User  says:

Weed or wonder? Please identify this plant growing wild in my Hudson Valley NY front yard.
Who am I
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Jesse78 says:

Thanks Christine - I think you're right looking at the link. I'm not sure it's the one used for turmeric, so I'd be a little scared to eat it until I am positive. But it definitely falls in the Curcuma family. Thanks for the comment and link!
-Jesse
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green.thumbs  Pro User  says:

Rosetry i think its Pokeberry, Phytolacca americana :)
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rosetry845  Pro User  says:

Great eye and diagnosis, green.thumbs, thanks! I am thrilled to have discovered --with your help and that of Wikpedia --that my "weed" is actually an herb that changed the course of history. The Declaration of Independence was written in fermented pokeberry juice And a 1969 song, "Polk Salad Annie" covered by Elvis was inspired by the pokeweed!
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Ketzel Levine is a group administrator Ketzel Levine says:

Pokeweed is a beloved ornamental here in the NW. I almost plotzed the first time I saw it, featured in the very sophisticated border at the Bellevue botanic border outside Seattle, which played off its purple stems and berries. We used to pull its butt out fast on the East Coast, but perhaps in the 11 yrs I've been in Oregon, that's changed...
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kavawaka says:

Rosetry - take the cautions regarding toxicity to heart. It's a beautiful plant and a great medicine for lymphatic congestion, but only in well-trained hands (and proper doses). Otherwise, it can be a nasty, possibly deadly plant if ingested. Even the early leaves used for poke salad have to be boiled several times to detoxify them.
Generally there is no problem, but those ripe berries look so tempting! For this reason, it's best to keep kids away from poke or properly educated about the toxicity.
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rosetry845  Pro User  says:

Thanks kavawaka, I did my research and will heed your warnings. I don't plan on creating & serving polk weed salad any time soon but it's good to know & plan for the consequences of digestion!
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andycarvin is a group administrator andycarvin  Pro User  says:

I went back to Brookside Gardens with the family yesterday and stopped over at the butterfly pavilion to track down the details of that amazing blue passionflower I photographed a couple of weeks ago. Here's what the sign said:

Passiflora "incense"
Passion Flower, Zones 6-10
Hybrid of N. and S. American spp.


A quick google search brought me additional confirmation:

www.tradewindsfruit.com/passiflora_incense.htm
www.kartuz.com/pc/68034/5PAS/Passiflora+Incense.html

These links and others say the Incense is a hybrid of P. incarnata and P. cincinnata.

If any of you live in the DC area, you can find this flower growing at Brookside in at least two places. I originally spotted it across with from the ticket taker at the entrance to their Wings of Fancy butterfly pavilion, at the far end of their outdoor butterfly garden. It's also located at the entrance to the visitor center, winding its way up a couple of the lamp posts.
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andycarvin is a group administrator andycarvin  Pro User  says:

Here's one from Becca Havens. She thinks it might be a clematis but isn't sure; neither is Ketzel.

Clematis?

Click the pic to see a closeup of it.
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Ketzel Levine is a group administrator Ketzel Levine says:

Oh, I'm plenty sure it's a clematis, I just don't know which species. Need a shot of the foliage to tell that.
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bethechange21  Pro User  says:

Andy: Here's one I found in an alley behind my street. It was on a vine with 2 other blooms. The bees really like it. I live in Cincinnati OH

Shred
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Big Dubya  Pro User  says:

Hi!
If you can help ID this shrub, I would be very grateful. I transplanted it from a friend's back yard where it had lived, we think, for over 100 years (the roots had grown down between the cracks in an old, abandoned granite block foundation). The friend who passed it along to me calls it a 'witch bush.' She's heard that it was used for medicinal purposes, especially by women, and possibly by prostitutes in early Boise.

It's about four feet tall and has leaves clustered irregularly along long thin, arching stems. It lost most of its leaves after this spring's transplanting, but it's starting to bounce back, and is even flowering. This flower is small, only about the size of dime. Apparently it gets warty and can have a strong smell. Any thoughts? I'm stumped.

Mystery shrub
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ataldredge  Pro User  says:

This bush grows in my mom's backyard in Dallas. It's about 8 feet tall and the flowers are tiny, about a 1/2 inch across. It bloomed in September, the whole bush at one time, and the fragrant flowers only lasted about 2 or 3 days. I'm sure mom used to know the name but she can't remember any more. Help?

4x8
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Ketzel Levine is a group administrator Ketzel Levine says:

Good STUMPAGE. I can't i.d. either of these two shrubs. I'm particularly stumped by the Boise bush. BD, when does it flower?
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amandalara  Pro User  says:

Hi, saw this on NPR's site and thought it was pretty neat, especially because I need help figuring out what this plant/flower is for my mother-in-law:
Unidentified flower
Any ideas??
Thank you!
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Big Dubya  Pro User  says:

Hi! The bush just flowered a couple of weeks ago. It's previous host thinks that it's in the nightshade family, if that helps. Thanks!
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VangieBug says:

Does anyone recognize this? I found it on a hillside in S. Korea. It's quite small, maybe a half an inch across.

Thanks.

Purple flower
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Christine4nier  Pro User  says:

Amandalara - I think your flower is a ginger in the Zingiber genus. Maybe Zingiber zerumbet? When it's more developed little whitish flowers come out of the folds in the "cone". Does that sound right?
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Christine4nier  Pro User  says:

Ataldredge - I think your photo just clicked with me when I read that the flower was fragrant. The blooms being so large in the photo threw me off, too. But I think it may be Sweet olive, Osmanthus fragrans. When I went to college in New Orleans they were planted all over the Uptown area and would bloom in September at the beginning of the school year, so the timing sounds right. And they were SO sweetly fragrant they made the wind smell sweet.
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ataldredge  Pro User  says:

Thanks Christine4nier. I checked a few sites and I believe you are absolutely correct. Pictures match and everyone described it as blooming in the fall. Good ID!
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Big Dubya  Pro User  says:

Regarding the mystery nightshade bush: I found one on the campus where I work and asked our landscape folks if they could ID it. They did! Looks like it's Solanum dulcamara, aka bittersweet nightshade - though honestly, the flowers in images of Solanum that I find online do look a little different than mine.
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ciamas says:

www.flickr.com/photos/7715390@N07/
I don't know how to get my photo to this site from my flickr page, but here is one from a SE Portland garden. This family grows the plant for its greens. Do you know it?
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Christine4nier  Pro User  says:

Hi Ciamas - The plant looks like okra to me. Interesting. I don't think I've ever tried okra greens...
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zane2hyperzane  Pro User  says:

100_2828

This was a wildflower, in Nebraska - seen in August. Any help?
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okpenstemon says:

This looks like a Cleome; one of its common names is clammy weed, amongst others. In OK these grow in sandy soils usually near water.
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andycarvin is a group administrator andycarvin  Pro User  says:

Here's one I saw at Brookside Gardens in Maryland a week ago. I couldn't find the placard identifying it. Any guesses?

IMG_0418
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ataldredge  Pro User  says:

Hey andycarvin, I saw this picture in the ID Please group and it seems to match yours which would make it Leonontus Leonurus or something thereabouts. Lots of pics at Dave's Garden including one that shows the early growth of flowers looking like your topnot.


-- from overthemoon - (?)
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andycarvin is a group administrator andycarvin  Pro User  says:

Thanks! That definitely looks like it.
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EtterVor  Pro User  says:

This is in my garden in NC, and I think I know
what it is, but really, I have just guessed.

The amorphophallus reigns
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zane2hyperzane  Pro User  says:

Okpenstemon, thanks so much! You really set me on the right rack. Indeed I believe it is a en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleome_serrulata .
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Jenelle76 says:

EtterVor: I'm no expert, but it does look like it may be related to what we always called Jack-in-the-Pulpit. Hope that is of any use.
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pete@eastbaywilds.com  Pro User  says:

an arisaema of some kind? lots of interesting ones introduced to horticulture in the past few years.
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someotherbob  Pro User  says:

What is this one?

It is on the coast walk in Monterey, CA.

Flowers
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WLA  Pro User  says:

Looks like some sort of Aloe bob.
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serialplantfetishist  Pro User  says:

I'm thinking EtterVor's plant must be related to a flower in my Berkeley California garden which is called Dracunculus vulgaris:

Orange and Purple at night.

Like mine, yours has an incredibly long central thingy (pardon the formal biological terminology) and a folding back, Batman sort of cowl. Here's another shot with my hand for a size reference.

4 Dracula Lilly w/ hand

This one bloomed in April or May.
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arcarpenter says:

I just got this from the Phila. Flower Show but the seller didn't know the name. Another person said it could be a jelly bean plant but it looks different. Is it some kind of sedum?

www.flickr.com/photos/16403064@N06/2316488291/
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G.Gardenkeeper says:

ARC I don't have the books in front of me and haven't learned how (where) to look on the web yet, but the family is Crassula I believe. Bet you could pick it out of a family photo or lineup!
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rosetry845  Pro User  says:

morikami japanese gardens

This was captured at the Morikami Gardens in So. FL., and Blathanna graciously requests an ID. Any tropical friendly ideas?
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ptdragonfly says:

rosetry845, the tree from Morikami resembles Retama, also called Jerusalem Thorn.
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rosetry845  Pro User  says:

Ah, thanks ptdragon for the lead-- the plant is aka Parkinsonia aculeata, in the Fabaceae (pea) family
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green.thumbs  Pro User  says:



i've been told it is some type of swamp lily, but i don't know if i believe it. any ideas?
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rosetry845  Pro User  says:

Two ID requests by NYC columnist, Lenore Skenazy,
www.creators.com/opinion/lenore-skenazy.html
warm weather bumpkin.
lenore's orange glob

Bungalow Colony spring wonders

lenore's brown glob
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getthebubbles  Pro User  says:

Found growing behind my house, all of a sudden, in Panama City, Florida, USA

magical mystery plant 1

magical mystery plant 2

has flowers and what appears to be baby fruits growing? does not look like my lemon or pear trees.

Anyone have any guesses?
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getthebubbles  Pro User  says:

^^ identified as a nightshade species, in the solanaceae family - anyone know what species and whether it is poisonous to animals?
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blathanna  Pro User  says:

Looks kind of like Solanum Americanum (American black nightshade); go here to view images of solanaceae varieties: www.plantatlas.usf.edu/browse.asp
I have something similar in Crestview FL:
solanum white flowers

I also have some with thorns, so probably a different variety, maybe Carolina horsenettle or Florida horsenettle.
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Just Back  Pro User  says:

Gethtebubbles: definitely Solanum... americanum, nigrum, ptychanthum; difficult to separate species in this group. Would be happy to look at a specimen. Herbarium, Biological Sciences, USC, Columbia 29208
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bear.bonnell  Pro User  says:

Hi All,
Is this a "baby" dogwood?
Thanks,
Bear Bonnell
2008 dogwood from seed
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sunny6426 says:

Who guesses first wins - nothing but fame!
wild mushroom gills
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bear.bonnell  Pro User  says:

It's gotta be a mushroom, but what kind I don't know. But it's a great shot!!!
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sunny6426 says:

Ha! You are the winner. It sure is a mushroom - just one of the many wild mushrooms out in the woods where I live. I flipped it over and fell in love with the patterns.
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sunny6426 says:

Okay, what is this plant? I hope I stump somebody.
birch, solarized
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petra55  Pro User  says:

All right guess what this is
fuzzy cluster
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anthonyvp says:

Hi I moved to broward county, florida in December and have been identifying all the plants, insects and animals I have never seen before. Some draw blanks I could use your help filling them.

these are of mushrooms in an open grassy area.

www.flickr.com/photos/9195014@N03/2683358005/
www.flickr.com/photos/9195014@N03/2684174496/
www.flickr.com/photos/9195014@N03/2683357785/

this is growing wild next to a red/pink flowering oleander.

www.flickr.com/photos/9195014@N03/2684174314/


Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Anthony
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mikeinoregon  Pro User  says:

Geranium spp.

I have not been able to I.D this Geranium species, though I've checked several books and brochures. It grows in my shaded garden in Portland, OR.
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sunny6426 says:

I think I found your geranium
www.swcoloradowildflowers.com/Pink%20Enlarged%20Photo%20P...
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green.thumbs  Pro User  says:

this is growing in my uncles garden. can anyone tell me what it is?

what is this!?
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live now  Pro User  says:

These seedheads were on the side of a path leading to Mt. Ranier (in the background). Photo from September 2007. Any ideas?

Seed Sisters
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andycarvin is a group administrator andycarvin  Pro User  says:

At first I thought those seedheads were trees. :-)
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mikeinoregon  Pro User  says:

These are the "toeheads", seeds of western pasqueflower, Anemone occidentalis. The cover alpine meadows in late summer.
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Ketzel Levine is a group administrator Ketzel Levine says:

How funny, a fellow hiker just sent me more or less the same picture to i.d. from another NW mountain. What wonderful plants. Thanks, Mike.
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Ketzel Levine is a group administrator Ketzel Levine says:

By the way, about that geranium in your garden, Mike - I think it might be one of the less, shall we say, "prepossessing" forms of G. x oxonianum--there are a number of forms with very narrow petals, and the leaf really looks like an oxonianum leaf.
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rugbygrl82576 says:

I was just hiking among these fluffy guys on mount ellinor in washington state's olympic range last weekend. they cropped up as we entered the 4,000-5,000 ft. elevation range. my companion referred to them as "bear grass." i absolutely love them when they're soaked with dew (or rain, as they were sunday). they are reminiscent of the fur on ellinor's resident mountain goats -- we saw a mom and baby at the summit! thanks for sharing.
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ladyholder says:

A friend of mine has just come back from a trip and brought back a picture where we cannot id the plant. I am hoping that we will be able to find out what it is here.

flickr.com/photos/29946326@N03/2802960133/

Help please!

Ladyholder
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khalana g says:

Rosetry- The top photo that you have provided is cedar apple rust. It's really interesting fungus. It alternates hosts between apple trees and cedars- and loves moist springs. We even get it in Colorado on occasion. Here is a link for a datasheet on it. plantclinic.cornell.edu/FactSheets/cedar-applerust/cedar-...
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rowrowrow144 says:

Ladyholder, my guess is a southern magnolia in fruit, see www.duke.edu/~cwcook/trees/magr.html
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ladyholder says:

Thank you! That looks to be it!
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steelfrog31801 says:

I know this is probably some simple little sapling or something, but I am so curious as to what this is! I snapped this shot at Bernheim Forest in North Central Kentucky this summer.
mystery plant
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live now  Pro User  says:

Thanks, mikeinoregon!
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rowrowrow144 says:

Steelfrog - looks like bloodroot (sanguinaria canadensis) or something close to that! The leaves of bloodroot are highly variable in the way the are lobed, so if you google image it, you'll see a wide variety of shapes.

www.missouriplants.com/Whitealt/Sanguinaria_canadensis_pa...
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yellowlens says:

I bought this cool plant at the beginning of the summer at my local (Vermont) farmer's market. It has been very happy on my porch all summer, but now that autumn is approaching, I'm wondering whether it would work inside as a houseplant. Or would it come back in the spring if I planted it in the ground? I have no idea what it is! There are actually two plants in the pot--the tall one, and then the smaller trailing ones that look like cousins of the big one.

Thanks for any care advice!
many arms
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steelfrog31801 says:

Thanks Row Row. I think that must be it! My mystery, solved at last!
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rowrowrow144 says:

Yellowlens -

The big fellow looks like senecio mandraliscae - blue finger/blue stock/blue chalk. I used to see it often in California as a landscape plant. I suspect you'll want to bring it inside before the first frosts in Vermont!

plants.usda.gov/java/largeImage?imageID=sema20_001_ahp.jpg

www.smpl.org/MainLibraryLandscaping/Landscaping%20Images/...

The little fellows look like sedum 'Gold Mound', or a cultivar of that species. Mine are hardy here on the CT coast, die back over the winter and return happily in the spring.

zipcodezoo.com/Plants/S/Sedum_Gold_Mound/
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DillyBean says:

This was a new "volunteer" that showed up in the garden this year. The flowers only last a day or two at most, and close up at night. The seed pod is translucent and is covered by a paper husk, much like a tomatillo. Haven't watered it or given it much care, but it seems to do well here in the Willamette Valley. Any ideas?

mysteryplant
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Ketzel Levine is a group administrator Ketzel Levine says:

I've got the answer, Dilly Bean, but you're going to have to come to the blog for it! It's awfully quiet over there these days, I need the company.
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Kathy Applebaum  Pro User  says:

Here's my stumper. My mom bought this from a nursery in Oregon about 10 years ago; it was labeled "Himalayan osage", with no scientific name. A phone call to the nursery didn't help.
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Until 2005 it was in full sun, dry in summer, soaking wet in winter. It's evergreen in California's Central Valley, with most growth in the spring and summer. The above picture is about a year after transplanting to clay soil with more even moisture. Now the thing is about 6' wide and 9' tall; it would be bigger if I didn't prune it back regularly.

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The thorns (which go through garden gloves easily!) are about 1.5" long; the flower clusters which appear in April/May are about 1/4" in diameter. The biggest leaves are about 3" long, but most are around 2". The small leaves on the old growth are where new branches will branch out the following year.

Any help will be appreciated!
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t_roy_€  Pro User  says:

i have no clue what this is!

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Christine4nier  Pro User  says:

I'd be curious to see if anyone know's t_roy_e's flower as well. I think I have a photo of the same one. Seems to be a common small shrub/large flower in Latin America.

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Ketzel Levine is a group administrator Ketzel Levine says:

T_roy, WHere do you garden? Christine, where do YOU garden? And
Kathy, I'm working on it1
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Christine4nier  Pro User  says:

Well, I wish this beauty was found in my garden in Virginia. I took my shot in Panama, and I think t_roy_e took his in Puerto Rico...
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t_roy_€  Pro User  says:

yeah i garden in kentucky...but i was hiking in Puerto Rico.
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yellowlens says:

Well, I planted the little guys in my garden next to my other sedums. I hope they come back next year! Thanks! :-)
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Christine4nier  Pro User  says:

t_roy_e, I think I've found it! It's a tropical shrub native to Asia in the genus Ixora, but there are lots of species, so I'm not sure which one it would be. (Ixora coccinea?) They're commonly called jungle geranium or flame of the forest (not to be confused with the invasive tree of African origin and the same name, "llama del bosque").
Apparently ixora is also often considered invasive, which would explain why you saw it on your hike...
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t_roy_€  Pro User  says:

i think your right; i checked out usda plant (http://plants.usda.gov/java/profile?symbol=IXCO) and they had a positive hit for puerto rico.

thanks a bunch!
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t_roy_€  Pro User  says:

ok here's another one; i thing this is a common garden plant, i simply don't know the name.

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Ketzel Levine is a group administrator Ketzel Levine says:

Color, leaves, size and shape of shrub? In close-up, many flowers could pass as many others...
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Ketzel Levine is a group administrator Ketzel Levine says:

Hey Kathy - I'm still not sure what exactly your "Himalayan Osage orange" is. Does it have any truly ornamental attributes? Are the flowers fragrant, the fruit brightly colored, the shape architectural? (Scratch that last q, I think I know the answer!).

Anyway, it ain't no osage orange, that's for sure, which leaves us with two choices of evergreen mock oranges IF the shrub's fragrant in spring with white flowers. It could be Philadelphus triflorus or Philadelphus karwinskianus, although I've found precious little info on either.

Ultimately, though, do you like it and is it worth the space it's evidentally taking up? Yours in ruthless gardening...
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rowrowrow144 says:

t_roy_e

That looks like goose neck loosestrife (lysimachia clethroides), if it is, brace yourself, it's a pretty invasive garden addition, Okay where you can let it ramble, but a pest in borders or restricted beds. I have a friend who said she planted one or two divisions from another friend, and was pleased she had twenty or thirty plants by the end of the summer. Let's see, next spring should bring four or five hundred!
If it's in your garden keep an eye on it. Pretty, but aggressive. Sounds like a VP candidate.
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t_roy_€  Pro User  says:

thanks...no fear i captured this image three years ago in someone else's garden! its never good to have strife in the name of a plant!
it was only pretty and aggressive for a fleeting moment, hopefully like a VP candidate.
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Kathy Applebaum  Pro User  says:

Ketzel, answers about the Himalayan Osage.

No fragrance at all to the flowers. The yellow "balls" you see are the flowers, or rather clusters of individual teeny tiny flowers which are hard to see without a magnifying glass. No fruit sets -- not sure if it's because this is a male or because no male plants are around.

We love the thing mostly for sentimental reasons -- my mom gave it to us shortly before she died. It took a day to dig up, and another day to amend the soil here to transplant it. Then it promptly "died" -- lost all its leaves and looked dead as a doornail for six months. I was way too lazy (and sick about all the work we'd done) to dig the thing up at the time, when suddenly in the middle of the hottest week of the year it burst out in leaves and has been growing by leaps and bounds ever since. We call it our Lazarus plant.

One nice thing it does for the garden is provide excellent nesting for finches. They fly in at full speed, dodging the thorns, and are quite safe in there from the neighborhood cats. The flowers are also quite attractive -- the yellow "balls" cover the whole plant while it's flowering, giving me good color at a time when not much else is going on in my garden.

I do hear what you're saying about ruthless gardening, though. :)
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Ketzel Levine is a group administrator Ketzel Levine says:

Thanks, Kathy. NOT giving up! OK w/you if I post your saga on the blog?
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