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Scanning Film Negatives with CanoScan 9000F

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Cyndi_Lauper says:

Hello,

I recently acquired a CanoScan 9000f but have been having way too many problems with it. I thought I'd post in this forum to see if anyone has an experience with this scanner and might have some ideas of how to help.

I shot some 35mm film in a 120 camera in order to get an image over the sprockets. I had the film processed in a roll (not cut), so I placed it on the glass and the first 3 images scanned in fine.

Once i moved the negative up to get the next set of images, problems started to occur. These same problems happen regardless of whether I place the negative on the glass itself, house it within a film guide (i use the 120mm guide since the 35mm would cut off the sprocket section, and because these shots are longer than a standard 35mm square), or use tape to place the negatives on the glass.

The scanner for some reason inserts a dark line down the middle of the negatives as seen in the first image here:
[http://www.flickr.com/photos/stephanieannefelicityfaye/5455701807/]

These lines are NOT on the negatives.

If i was to move the negative to the left or right, the line remains and scans half the image in one shade and half in another, as seen here:

[http://www.flickr.com/photos/stephanieannefelicityfaye/5456333486/]

When i finally get the whole image to look ok, the lines seem to bleach out the sprocket ares:

[http://www.flickr.com/photos/stephanieannefelicityfaye/5456313276/]


This happens regardless of my setting for type of film (35mm or 120), and no matter what settings I use for image adjustments, or dpi.

Finally, if I get a good preview with no lines running through it and happily click scan and save, this is what the save image ends up looking like:
[http://www.flickr.com/photos/stephanieannefelicityfaye/5456313430/]


My final effort has been to scan 2 negatives side by side to see if that would change anything, and the following occurred. You can see the vertical lines running through and the color differentiation between the lines.

[http://www.flickr.com/photos/stephanieannefelicityfaye/5456421795/]

I find this to be very frustrating since the first few images I scanned turned out just as I'd wanted:

Fontenelle Restaurant Sign by Cyndi_Lauper


Bytowne Theatre by Cyndi_Lauper



If anyone has any idea what is going on and could give me a few pointers, I'd be very grateful.

The only thing I can think that might be causing this is that, since my film is uncut and on a full roll, as I move it up I have to slide it off the base of the scanner between the base and the lid out the top. But when I moved it back down again and rescanned the first 3 images, the same problems happened with the start of the film as well.
So... I'm at a loss..

Thanks in advance,
Steph
Posted at 1:17PM, 18 February 2011 PDT (permalink)

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nahanni•whisky™ says:

q: why are the scan lines out of alignment? they should be perpendicular.
Posted 15 months ago. (permalink)

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HairyHippy  Pro User  says:

There is a small area at the top (nearest the hinge) where the scan head needs to see just the scan light from above to do some sort of registration before doing the actual scanning.

You will see a rebated section at the top of your film holders where this happens.

If you cover this area with part of the film or anything else you get these awful scans, or worse, no scan at all and it says it can't find the film.

SOLUTION

You will need to cut your negs into chunks that fit the film holder, missing the registration slot at the top, yet allowing the scanner to see complete images.
Posted 15 months ago. (permalink)

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inetjoker is a group moderator inetjoker  Pro User  says:

If you want the rebates and sprocket holes get this and don't block the calibration area.

microsites.lomography.com/digitaliza/
Posted 15 months ago. (permalink)

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Cyndi_Lauper says:

Thanks all for your responses.

HairyHippy: You're way too awesome. I had a feeling it might have something to do with me layering the negative over the top of the scanner, but I was hoping to avoid cutting them if possible. I ended up taking your advice and giving them a slice, then placed them in the 120mm holder and all's well now.

Inetjoker: I actually have those already, they came with my scanner and I was using them to no avail. But thanks for the link. :)

For anyone else having problems with this scanner, cutting negatives is key, and here is a helpful tutorial a friend of mine sent me on how to avoid getting the pesky blue hues to disappear by previewing the area between the sprockets first, applying the tonal range, then expanding.
www.theplasticlens.com/blog/2009/scanning-for-sprockets/

Thanks again everyone!
Posted 15 months ago. (permalink)

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Mister Roy  Pro User  says:

Many thanks for this. I had exactly the same problem and was going mad. Solved now, which means I can enjoy my Lomography Spinner.
Posted 10 months ago. (permalink)

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Roobit1970  Pro User  says:

Thanks but I still have the same problem ... well, almost - intermittently I get a blue line going from top to bottom down in the middle of the scan (or horizontally that depends on the camera I was using). sometimes the line comes out stronger, sometimes it is weaker, sometimes it disappears. I do not block those two small frame openings at the top of the film holder. I have an identical scanner, a
Posted 4 months ago. (permalink)

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Waitingforthelight says:

Do you have "calibrate at every scan" selected? That solved a similar problem for me.
Posted 4 months ago. (permalink)

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Roobit1970  Pro User  says:

Where would you do that? Sorry.
Posted 4 months ago. (permalink)

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