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shouldn't the question be "where were you before?"
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I saw this on the BBC news last night, Its a real shame, does it spell the end for film?
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:..: [deleted] says:
I can't see how this could spell 'the end' for film. Kodachrome made up less than 1% of Kodak's total film sales. The majority of shooters never ever used it.
Kodachrome is only a film, it's not some sort of mythical linchpin holding up a huge, fragile deck of cards.
Posted 36 months ago.
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e-person.ipernity.com [deleted] says:
It is only a film, although it is a very specific one. There isn't a substitute for it. And please do not say Velvia, or it will mean you have no eye.
Posted 36 months ago.
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:..: [deleted] says:
There's no substitute for Kodachrome, that's why this is so painful for some.
But as it only accounts for under 1% of total sales of one film company I cannot believe its demise will spell the end for film.
Posted 36 months ago.
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I'm really sad about Kodachrome disappearing, and I hate to see ANY film being discontinued. I'm too young to really have a personal attachment to Kodachrome...I was born in 1977 and by the time I was a kid, my parents and everyone was using regular color print 35mm film. I didn't know anyone who used slides. I knew what slides were, but I never used them and my parents never used them.
The interesting thing is that I had heard about Kodachrome even before I knew what it was. I don't know how or where I heard about it, but I must have come across it somewhere in all the books I read as a kid in the 80's and 90's. It's like one of those things...it's in the back of your mind, part of the collective conscious, but you have no idea where you heard about it. I feel cheated because I had just started using Kodachrome. When I got seriously interested in photography a few years ago, I heard so much about Kodachrome and I finally wanted to try it. So I've shot a few rolls and I really love it. It was the first time I had ever used slide film, and when I got my slides in the mail and saw those little positive images with beautiful colors in my hands...it totally blew me away. It was incredible. So I really hate to see Kodachrome gone. Now I finally understand why people loved it so much...and I feel like I realized too late.
BUT you guys really need to keep things in perspective. I don't think Kodachrome has anything at all to do with film in general. Just because film sales declined in 2008-2009 doesn't mean anything. Hello...we're in the middle of a severe recession ! (Maybe even a Depression?)...Everything is declining! I could show you an entire block of car dealerships where I live that have closed and now they're just abandoned buidlings. Does that mean people are going to stop driving cars?? No, of course not. Sales are down for BOTH film AND digital cameras. The economy is horrible right now.
In fact, before the economy crashed, the last I had read was that film sales were actuall UP, especially for black and white film. Also, I think the fact that Kodak made the new Ektar 100 film in 120 format is a good sign. When it came out in 35mm, people were saying they hoped Kodak would make it in 120 rolls. But supposedly, they were never going to do that. Well, they did!
Film isn't going anywhere. I'm not saying that things haven't changed. I'm just saying that us film shooters need to stop worrying all the time and just have fun.
Originally posted 36 months ago.
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Silverscape edited this topic 36 months ago.
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Now I find it interesting that I have had the opposite responses when mentioning Kodachrome's demise. Sure my girlfriend wasn't quite sure what it was but my parents were well aware of what it was. My dad said he remembers how he bought Ektachrome because it was supposed to be a better film or something. Sadly his slides are quite faded so I'd like to get them out and scanned sometime.
I'm going to order a few more rolls and this will be my farewell. At the same time I plan on picking up some Ektar so that I can see the old and the new of Kodak. I'll still support them as a company but it's sad to say goodbye to an old friend.
Posted 36 months ago.
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I'm quite sad that I have never shot Kodachrome. And now I can't get it anywhere. *sigh*
Posted 36 months ago.
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Freestyle appears to be taking preorders of it. I plan on picking up my last 5 rolls from them today and they will ship it next month. I also picked up a couple rolls of Ektar 100 and Elite Chrome 100 from Buy.com so I can start the healing process.
Posted 36 months ago.
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It will be some time before it's not available. Everywhere is sold out at the moment, but only because of the frenzy in the last couple of days.
In a couple weeks to a month once the shops deal with the backlog of everyone out of the blue wanting one last roll, it will be readily available again. Stick with a shop that allows backorders, then you'll be guaranteed some when stock arrives.
Posted 36 months ago.
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Here you go:
www.flickr.com/groups/1106379@N25/
Post your final roll results.....
Posted 36 months ago.
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just ordered two rolls from 7DS who seem to bee keeping it at the same price as it was before. I may have to buy a special camera to use it though!
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:..: [deleted] says:
It's actually a bit cheaper at 7DS now than a month ago. It disappeared from their stock as they tried to get it cheaper. Let's hope it stays like this as when HIE was discontinued 7DS priced their last rolls at over £17. It does seem to be selling fast though, it was 'stock: plenty' yesterday and 'stock: medium' this morning and 'stock: low' right now.
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Ha, I managed to get one roll (incidentally my first roll of Kodachrome) from 7DS this afternoon just before they sold out. Had to get a 2nd roll from Mailshots UK, which is only a little more expensive.
And as Perkeleellinen said, yesterday there was no film, at 10 this morning it was already at medium.
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Ben J. Boyle [deleted] says:
I shot a roll of Elite Chrome 100 as my first foray into colour slide this month. Got the slides back yesterday ans was blown away by the colour repro on them.
Posted 36 months ago.
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When the announcement was made I checked a few UK online suppliers and discount films direct had stock. I checked back later and saw it was all sold out. I figured people were buying it up fast but then noticed it wasn't sold out but the shop had decided to auction their stock on ebay!
Posted 36 months ago.
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How much do you pay for it where you are ? My online shop in France has K64 at 17EUR including processing ?
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:..: [deleted] says:
Seven Day Shop (7DS) sell it for £8.45 (€9.96) shipped process paid. A few other online places have it around £8.50 - £9.00 plus postage.
7DS are cheap because they are located in the Channel Islands and don't charge VAT (consumption tax). They're actually really great and because of them I'm paying less for film today than I was 12 years ago.
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Heard on Monday morning.
Ordered Monday morning.
Now I have 10 hot little rolls in my hot little hands.
+ 2 cold little rolls already in the frig.
Now to find a lizard or nekkid cloud or something....
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Posted 36 months ago.
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ATiwolf:
"Even people born in the 1990 are borderline clueless when it comes to film."
Guess I'm one of the few ones from that decade that know film and Kodachrome. Things like.. Gum bichromate, Carbon/carbro, Pt/pd, dye transfer, wet plate collodion, (Ultra) Large format.. Isn't very popular to us...
If I'm lucky, I may be able to do some exotic travel June next year, it would be nice to carry kodachrome.
Posted 36 months ago.
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I don't see the official end of Kodachrome as being a harbinger of anything related to film overall either.
The fact that Kodachrome, with its completely different processing, held on as it long as it did is a credit to its legacy. I expect it stayed in production as long as it did in part because it was a point of prestige for Kodak, not unlike Nikon maintaining the F6 in its catalog. When a company's been around a long time and made so much of their fortunes in a certain arena, it behooves them to grant the last members of that arena some respect and difference beyond pure business concerns. Respecting that is the company respecting their own identity which ultimately, is good customer relations.
Kodachrome finally getting forced into retirement is emotional for film aficionados, but seeing how it's the only K14 process film in the world with only one K14 lab left servicing it, I can't see how it's going to meaningfully impact the rest of the film market.
Posted 36 months ago.
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Leighgion: I think you nailed it with the only K14 and the only lab. If Kodachrome was an E6 film it'd be around forever despite the super low sales.
In business there has to be a certain amount of profit to justify a product line. Plus when it's a publicly traded company, there's only so much room for pet projects and sentimentality. Sadly, the bottom line rules.
Still, I'd like to see something done with the Kodachrome name. Kodak is well known for reusing names so why not Kodachrome? Maybe an awesome E-6 film called "Kodachrome NT" or something.
Posted 36 months ago.
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I still can't believe we took Paul Simons Kodachrome away. I feel worse and worse by the day.
*sigh*
Posted 36 months ago.
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Does anyone have any suggestions for the closest E6 replacement in terms of color reproduction. I've only shot one roll of Astia and one roll of Velvia 50, being primarily a negative film shooter, and (obviously) the Astia is closer. Any others people could try while working through the grieving process?
Posted 36 months ago.
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I would think that unfortunately none of the E-6 films will look quite the same way as Kodachrome because the physical structure of the films are quite different, E-6 films having the dye couplers incorporated in the emulsion whereas Kodachrome introduces them during the processing stage.
The closest thing perhaps that could replicate this look would be to make separation positives using standard black and white film and the Wratten 25, 61 and 47 filters.
The good part is that you can revive making "Kodachrome" style images in medium format and large format using this system. Just use different backs (or inserts for LF) for each separation positive. The only problem I can see with it is that you'd be basically limited to static subjects, unless you can figure out a way to take all three shots at the same time.
Posted 36 months ago.
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You mean like they did in technicolor? Trichromes are nice, and I'm going to try it when I get my blue filter from 7DS, but I think that the harris-shutter effect may limit what you can do, if you don't want fringing...
Posted 36 months ago.
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Yes, it is indeed a sad day and I remember using Kodachrome 25 almost exclusively in the eighties for nature and macro work due to its colour rendition and lack of grain. I also remember those flimsy cardboard mounts....
Posted 36 months ago.
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mazdamattc: Kodak is saying their new E100G is comparable but not the same. I haven't used it yet , though. I have some on order and I plan on shooting.
What upsets me the most is that my skills as a photographer have never been good enough and now I'll probably never have an awesome photo on Kodachrome.
Posted 36 months ago.
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Just out of curiosity I popped into local Boots (the chemist) store who have 4 rolls of K64 dated October 2010 at £ 12.70 per roll they have secured delivery of a further 10 rolls.
Posted 36 months ago.
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Try the new Ektar 100. It's not as good as Kodachrome but it cost about a 1/4 of what Kodachrome cost of film/processing and having it put on CD. It also has a great latitude This may help alleviate some of the sadness because Kodachrome will definitely be missed.
Kodak E100G, E100GX and E100VS are excellent replacements slide films but there is definitiely something special about Kodachrome.
Kodachrome may R.I.P. but will not be forgotten easily by true photographers and photograhpy lovers.
Posted 36 months ago.
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Christoper B. : Thanks, I'll have to try the E100G the next time I feel like shooting slides.
cgambarrotti: Thanks for the Ektar recommendation. I've tried a few rolls, and it's great, but doesn't suit my shooting preferences very closely. It seems like it isn't really very good at skin tones, and I mostly shoot people.
Posted 36 months ago.
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C.B/Krzys [deleted] says:
R.I.P [http://www.flickr.com/photos/krzys_/3659967658/]
Posted 36 months ago.
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I think it would be something of a lack of respect to recycle the Kodachrome name. Unless the new version was something genuinely revolutionary in look, the crassness of such a move would do more PR damage than good.
Things pass. Personally, I think once Dwyane's closes down their K14 machines that folks just need to be at peace with the fact nothing its going to look quite like Kodachrome anymore and move on with the films that can be had. Spending your time trying to imitate what can't really be imitated instead of trying to make the best images with what you do have is cheating yourself.
Originally posted 36 months ago.
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Leighgion edited this topic 36 months ago.
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Kodachrome is gone - where do we go now?
There's this great invention called a digital camera and it takes photos and you don't need film.
Posted 36 months ago.
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rdrr! 1 h£4r7 d1Gi 7&011z!
Posted 36 months ago.
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C.B/Krzys [deleted] says:
Yes D40xographer, but digital cameras are shit.
Posted 36 months ago.
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*Cough!*
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Mat, Is That leet speak?!! Very Random Dude.
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This Loss might be a good thing I Guess. Some Born-into-digital slave might skim across the obituaries in a newspaper column or magazine and get turned on to this ancient method of image capture called film by the news of Kodachrome: A Final Gift From k64. We might get new film converts that way.
Also. With k64 crippled due to old age, It makes selecting a film to try slightly less difficult. There's still alot to chose from.
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D40xographer- Gtfo. Thank you.
Anyway, who else is still waiting for their Kodachrome to come in? I ordered mine the day it was discontinued and still nothing.
I wonder how back ordered adorama is...
Posted 35 months ago.
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I was amazed to find some in stock in Boots (Harrogate, England) this weekend. I cleared out the four rolls they had left.
Got 6 rolls to shoot between now and December 2010...
Posted 35 months ago.
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I have 20 after some purchases so I should be set for a while.
It's good to go out with a bang. :)
Posted 35 months ago.
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Chris
My Young friend you sure are living life. I think I may have to send you a gift some day. I am so glad you have the film use the Force Chris... Use the Force. LOL
I have 5 rolls back ordered with Freestyle but got a note from them they expect it in in a week.
I do have the frozen roll of Kodachrome 25..... I wonder what that is worth? Should I sell it or.... shoot it? I may be a Communist at heart but a little extra beer money is good. Starting bid will be $50.00 :)
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Well eight rolls of it are selling for $200 ($25 a roll!) so I'd say you could probably get a good bit in trade. I'm still debating which camera to put it in first. I'd go with my n75 workhorse but the lens on that is a bit lacking (kit zoom so not all that great on slower films unless it's quite sunny out.) I think I'll toss a roll into my Yashica this weekend to take with me for the 4th.
Posted 35 months ago.
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I was going to buy 10 extra rolls to sell on ebay, but I decided not to.
It felt wrong to me for some reason.
I guess that's pretty lame...
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It is only a film, although it is a very specific one. There isn't a substitute for it. And please do not say Velvia, or it will mean you have no eye.
I shot a roll of Elite Chrome 100 as my first foray into colour slide this month. Got the slides back yesterday ans was blown away by the colour repro on them.
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