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You know what? Before Flickr starts implementing somethng the community of geotaggers, service providers, mashups, etc should come together and define a standard format that's universally accepted.
geostandard.grouphub.com/
To this end, I've created a Basecamp project called the "Geodata Standards Group," with the following preliminary mission:
Geodata Standards Group Mission Statement
To specify and document standards for geodata across media types.
At the moment, there are number of different ways of going about it – from ICBM metadata, to geoRSS files, and freeform “geo:xxx=” tags used on sites like Flickr.
The mission of this project is to consolidate standars in a single location and unify them so that:
(a) they play well together allowing for simpler development of geo apps
(b) confusion in the marketplace can be eliminated, speeding the adoption of geotagging, etc
That’s it for the moment – more to follow.
/////END MISSION STATEMENT
So - I'll be sending out invitations all over the net over the next few days, or flickrmail me your email addy if you'd like to be invited.
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The RSS feeds don't incude GeoRSS information as currently the geo information is in the form of tags, and so the backend really doesn't know them from kittens, sunset, flowers, or babies.
*IF* georss were to be included it would most certainly (like 99.92%) follow the "Point" format found here...
georss.org/simple.html
Datapoint 1: I work at Flickr.
Datapoint 2: I [heart] georss.
Datapoint 3: All the above is just general speculation, and no offical indication of what may or may not happen :)
Posted 26 months ago.
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Yeah, I thought you worked at Flickr ;)
I know it'd be a special case - but the feed generator already sees the tags so I hoped...
What prompted me to ask is that I'm playing with a site that aggregates GeoRSS feeds and turns them into Google Earth network links - so you can use GE as a GeoRSS reader in effect. So it'd be super cool to have Flickr generate GeoRSS.
Posted 26 months ago.
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Here's an example of what it looks like now:
http://flickr.com/photos/andyarmstrong/167626544/
Messy as hell at the moment but it's getting there :)
Posted 26 months ago.
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I've got a GeoRSS renderer at www.acme.com/GeoRSS/
It uses this variety of GeoRSS:
brainoff.com/worldkit/doc/rss.php
And also Yahoo!'s GeoRSS extensions:
developer.yahoo.net/maps/simple/V1/reference.html
On my to-do list is making it also accept the other varieties:
www.georss.org/simple.html
www.georss.org/gml.html
I've also done some development on a feed transducer that takes regular RSS as input, looks for geo-information of various kinds, geocodes it, caches it, and produces GeoRSS as output. This works pretty well but could always use some improvement.
Posted 26 months ago.
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Have you seen this Jef?
http://www.geonames.org/rss-to-georss-converter.html
That's what I'm using to pre-process the feeds in the screenshot I posted.
I'm currently supporting all the GeoRSS vocabularies that I can find in the wild - but I haven't found that many.
Posted 26 months ago.
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I did not know about that, even though he links to me! Thanks.
Posted 26 months ago.
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btw, geoRSS will be rolling out soon. We haven't yet for two reasons ...
1) we want to make sure the servers are all doing well.
2) we want to get enough photos in there for it to make sense.
:)
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Are you talking about just adding GeoRSS tags into the current RSS feeds, for any photos that have geo data?
Or do you mean a new GeoRSS feed of geo-tagged photos in a given area?
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The latter.
Posted 23 months ago.
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Actually both :)
Take any RSS feed and add &georss=1 onto the end of it, it'll pop in a georss:point for you, if the photo has geo information.
An example of the geotagged tag's rss feed
Of course with that there's no guarentee that any photos will have a georss:point. But it's there if you want to use it on your own photos or whatever.
The latter, will be from the "Taken in blah_blah"* info we have stored. So if you see Taken in San Francisco, you'll be able to go to a page showing photos from San Francisco and there'll be a georss feed there for you to use. In this case all the photos will have the georss:point information, and arguably more useful.
*blah_blah, not a real place.
Originally posted 23 months ago.
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Rev Dan Catt (a group admin) edited this topic 23 months ago.
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Oops. I was wrong :)
Dan - wtf are you doing up? Or did you sleep at some point??
Also, see: blog.flickr.com/flickrblog/2006/08/geotagging_one_.html
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Babies, they just don't know when to go to sleep.
1,651,908 geotagged photos and one baby, not bad going.
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Cool. So (a) I can stop working on my own version of a flickr GeoRSS feed generator, and (b) I need to tweak my GeoRSS feed displayer to handle the "simple" variety of GeoRSS.
Posted 23 months ago.
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Yuan.CC Maps can display GeoRSS for a while. See here for details.
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So just to clarify, the &georss=1 stuff is not live yet, right? Cause I tried doing my own geotagged photos just now and no georss:point elements showed up.
Posted 23 months ago.
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It is live. I tried my georss and the georss:point showed up.
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Huh. I'm seeing them now too. Must have been some sort of brainfart.
Anyway, it's working now. I'd post a link here except that flickr "helpfully" screws up links with escaped characters in them.
Originally posted 23 months ago.
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