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Bighugelabs.com blocked in China? [was: Can't View Website...some possible reasons?!?!]

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aschoom  Pro User  says:

Is it because I am currently in Beijing, the website is down or another reason? I have no idea how to resolve this problem...it was fine last night and I haven't been able to go on all day....what could be wrong?

I go to the site: bighugelabs.com

And then I get this "Page is Unavailable" message...weird.

--Irene

[I edited the topic title for clarity. -fd]
Originally posted at 8:44AM, 10 October 2008 PDT ( permalink )
fd (a group admin) edited this topic 9 months ago.

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ColleenM  Pro User  says:

That link works for me.

I'm surprised you were able to log in at all. China blocks access to Flickr.
Posted 9 months ago. ( permalink )

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Room With A View  Pro User  says:

I am also in China (xiamen) and got the same response as you, aschoom.
There are ways to get around China's block of Flickr - but how can we get around the apparent block of bighuge labs? Where can we ask about this? I am not good at technical problems on my own.

- Karin
Originally posted 9 months ago. ( permalink )
Room With A View edited this topic 9 months ago.

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NowJustNic  Pro User  says:

It's always been fine before... but is now unavailable. Seems strange, have Big Huge Labs been cooking up something subversive that I was unaware of? ;-)

BTW, Flickr is no longer blocked, at least here in Beijing. Which makes me think it even more unlikely that BHL is blocked, at least deliberately so.
Originally posted 9 months ago. ( permalink )
NowJustNic edited this topic 9 months ago.

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Room With A View  Pro User  says:

So if all of us are finding Flickr Toys unavailable what can we do?! Seems to me it must be related to our living in China?
Anybody have any ideas?
Originally posted 9 months ago. ( permalink )
Room With A View edited this topic 9 months ago.

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fd is a group administrator fd  Pro User  says:

It's possible something happened on or around the 9th of October. On that day, my traffic from China began to drop and has stayed very low ever since. Before that, most of my Chinese traffic was from Beijing and Shanghai. Today I got almost no visits from those cities. :(

Traffic is very close to but not quite zero. I got 34 visits from 9 cities today (including 2 from Beijing). I did some testing just now and found that (at this moment) bighugelabs.com is accessible from Beijing and Hong Kong but not Shanghai. It's very strange. It could be that bighugelabs.com is being blocked. It could also just be a (rather long) temporary DNS problem in China.

I don't know anything about the internet situation in China. I can tell you that China is not being blocked by me.

Sorry, guys. Please keep us updated on your situation and any possible workarounds.
Posted 9 months ago. ( permalink )

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iansand  Pro User  says:

You might want to ask if the wonderful soul who set Access flickr can help.
Posted 9 months ago. ( permalink )

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Rippie: Contra Censura!  Pro User  says:

there is a greasemonkey script that bypasses all the blocks in china, uae, saudi arabia, korea and more. i noticed it yesterday while perusing the userscript.org lists for new toys.

you must use FireFox browser (which is excellent and free, btw) and the GreaseMonkey addon app (also free) to get the national blocker breaker.

should work on FF 3. since i'm not behind one of those blocking filters, i cannot test it. good luck.
Posted 9 months ago. ( permalink )

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NowJustNic  Pro User  says:

Userscript.org is also blocked.
Posted 9 months ago. ( permalink )

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DianeWorth  Pro User  says:

I lived in China for a year. This problem is well-known and even has a name. In China it's called, The Golden Shield Project . There are 30,000 or more workers whose job it is to block sites.

The sites are blocked and unblocked on a seemingly random basis but we could never decide exactly why, except for those which said something obviously negative about China. If there was a negative piece of news about China, then all the news sites (CNN, BBC, NYTimes) would go down one by one for a few days, then appear, one by one again.

Also, sometimes our emails just got 'lost' on the way to the west. So I taught everyone to reply, "got it" to each they received so I could tell which were lost. I never wrote anything negative.

There are proxies as a way around this for those in China (and many locals know about these), but if you get caught your connection might mysteriously fail altogether.

Read more about it here:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_censorship_by_China
Posted 9 months ago. ( permalink )

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Room With A View  Pro User  says:

I just sent a letter to Hamed Saber in Iran, who wrote Access Flickr, to see if he can help us.
I miss so many things from Flickrtoys.
Originally posted 9 months ago. ( permalink )
Room With A View edited this topic 9 months ago.

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Semmi  Pro User  says:

Censorship is useless and people will always find their way to truth. Sooner or later.

We lived in it for over 40 years. The lost years...
Posted 9 months ago. ( permalink )

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jacilluch  Pro User  says:

(0_0).... I can not undersant...why????
Posted 9 months ago. ( permalink )

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comiendoentokyo says:

Could try a proxy like Tor very efficient and completely opensource... a final solution, although you probably need before some tedious configuration.
Posted 9 months ago. ( permalink )

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Cybergabi  Pro User  says:

Yeah, I think help is at hand.

On my travels in China, I used Firefox and installed the "Access Flickr" script from Hamed Saber:

addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/4286

It works like a charm. I can't remember I had issues with Scout either.
Just try.

Here are two screenshots of Flickr - one with IE (and without the script running), the other one with FF with the script.
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Room With A View  Pro User  says:

Thank you, but I use that addon from Hamed Saber to access Flickr all the time. the problem is that even through we can access Flickr we cannot access Flickr toys, Scout etc - all the great stuff fd has at big huge labs
Posted 9 months ago. ( permalink )

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dbthayer  Pro User  says:

fd:

It's possible something happened on or around the 9th of October.

hm, the 9th of Oct. in CA is 10/10 in China. which is national day for the Nationalists on Taiwan.
maybe they were trying to block something related to that event, although it still makes no sense for Flickr Toys.
Posted 9 months ago. ( permalink )

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fd is a group administrator fd  Pro User  says:

That's interesting. Maybe (MAYBE) someone in Taiwan was making anti-communism motivational posters. :-) Pure speculation, of course.
Posted 9 months ago. ( permalink )

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eagle1effi  Pro User  says:

HI!!
cool
never knew about this site!
-

and to China:
please be so polite and let us make art!
nothing more!

@eagle1effi i Germany
ps
can´t see restricted shots on my own private group
and

got deleted by flickr
without mail or warnings!
on my other US proaccount!
problems everywhere!
-
the only idea:
pray for a better understanding
c u effi
恭喜

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eagle1effi edited this topic 9 months ago.

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Room With A View  Pro User  says:

I WANT MY TOYS BACK!!! I was using fd's toybox at east 3 times a week for about 4 years. I want so much for someone to be able to FIX THIS!!!!!!
Posted 9 months ago. ( permalink )

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Khaled A.K says:

Well u can use a 3rd party proxy server to access flickr from there ...
try downloading "Opera-Tor" browser, and u r there ...
Posted 9 months ago. ( permalink )

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arcoirisito  Pro User  says:

You can find a list of applications here:
www.rfa.org/english/about/help/web_access.html

I used Ultrasurf with Windows explorer in the past and it worked.
Posted 9 months ago. ( permalink )

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Room With A View  Pro User  says:

A Chinese friend who uses flickr says she has been having good results with this list of proxy servers. There are several which have let me reach fd Flickr toys. Good luck and happy creativity everybody!
www.allproxysites.com/recent-proxy-sites.php
Posted 9 months ago. ( permalink )

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Room With A View  Pro User  says:

HELLO ! I spoke too soon above. I"ve been trying one proxy after another for more than an hour and I still cannot use bighugelabs to put a little mat around my photo. Some let me reach flickr toys and open 'mat' and even get everything chosen.... but then... it loses the address of my photo.

STILL NO SUCCESS !!
Posted 9 months ago. ( permalink )

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Cybornut  Pro User  says:

Works fine in Shanghai
Posted 9 months ago. ( permalink )

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Room With A View  Pro User  says:

I went away for a few days to Hong Kong, returned and now - I have normal access to Flickr toys again! Oh, may it continue!
Posted 8 months ago. ( permalink )

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