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Looks like someone already made this, but wants $2.99 for it. Too bad Flickr didn't make it for free first!
phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewSoftware?i...
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$3 isn't bad if you really like Flickr and want functionality on your iPhone, but a Flickr-made free application would be nice as well.
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Yeah, I am kind of surprised there isn't one, since many other Flickr-bought properties (like upcoming.org) had apps out well in advance of the new iphone rollout. I just assumed this was the sort of thing they had developers to make.
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There is always m.flickr.com/
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For viewing you could always try Exposure
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(I don't work for Flickr.)
Well (sadly, sort of, but not really) there's no such thing as an "always on" app. Apple is supposed to release a "push" service in September, but it won't really allow functionality as you describe. In fact, the only "always on" apps are specifically the ones that AREN'T in the App Store, and are installed on jailbroken phones.
That aside -- the current iPhone apps that UPLOAD to Flickr are all broken. Apparently the APIs to interface with the photo database don't work very well. The existing apps that upload to Flickr are Shozu and "Mobile Flickr" -- both of which have serious issues. They resize the photos and strip the EXIF data, among other things. Though I don't know it for a fact, I *assume* this is why Exposure doesn't include upload functionality. From what I gather, developers are under NDA and can't actually talk about why this doesn't work...
Another really crappy issue I've learned about today is that the GEO EXIF data embedded in the iPhone photos is broken. That is to say, even if you upload the photos from iPhoto with the EXIF data intact, they won't import the geo data correctly. Why? Because apparently Apple forgot there are -(negative) Latitude/Longitude values...
At least that's what my feeble brain has been able comprehend.
Hopefully we'll have a lovely Flickr uploading app within the next couple months. The geo EXIF thing is really bizarre, though.
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Well, the app I linked to lets you upload, but doesn't take pics.
However, Typepad's app runs the camera - you launch it, take pics, and it auto-uploads them.
I'm sure it won't be hard for Flickr to develop something like this, if they decide to do it. Under the original management, of course, this is the kind of innovating, forward-thinking thing that would have been done quite awhile ago, but now that accountants run Flickr, I'm not sure it will ever happen.
Treebjen, thanks for explaining what's going on. I appreciate the primer. Hopefully they fix the EXIF problems - one of the reasons I bought a new one was so that the GPS data would be auto-added to my pictures and maintained on Flickr.
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mostrom, thanks, but i'm not interested in a viewing app, but rather a taking-and-uploading app.
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jailbroken iphones can use iFlickr, which does one button uploadright after taking a photo:
www.appleiphoneschool.com/2008/03/17/iflickr-08/
i don't think there's an app store app that is as good, at least not yet.
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Because apparently Apple forgot there are -(negative) Latitude/Longitude values...
What apple broke something for 3/4 of the world?
I thought the iphone was supposed to display the web better than anything else? flickr.com should work fine then and certainly m.flickr.com; I guess I'll just have to keep spending my disposable income on products that are actually capable of what they advertise.
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I wish someone would fix it and make it work. I would love to take photos when I am at events or places I can't have a camera (museum!) and upload them. Or like at a resturant, more candid shots. Would be so nice to be able to do it with a flickr app on my iphone.
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Awesome idea. I would love an official Flickr app to upload photos (for multiple users preferably- like Flickr Uploadr). I would use iFlickr but 2.0 on the iPhone isn't jailbroken yet (not publicly at least) so an AppStore app is the only method that works as far as applications go (no jailbreak apps yet). And I don't want to pay $3 for that mobile Flickr app. I would rather have an official app that I know will do the job well. I don't know how well the current offering works.
Also, an official app could use geotagging (the whole thing about asking the user for permission to use his or her location).
Please Flickr team, develop this app!
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I have to believe that Flickr is on the case with this. The iPhone is the most popular cameraphone on Flickr (1, 2) and rising.
Flickr obviously, and rightfully, sees the information attached to pictures as just as important as the pictures. The fact that AT&T strips out all the EXIF stuff and is unable to deal with the geotagging when attaching to email must annoy Flickr to no end. I know it annoys the pudding out of me as a user.
Flickr has the development ability and the clout to both deliver an app that works and is free (well, part of Pro, maybe?) and to get Apple/AT&T to work with them enough to make it work correctly. Full res pictures, geotagging, etc.
I really really believe this will happen. I really really hope it happens soon.
Also, if it were me, I'd be pissed off at the "mobile flickr" app. It costs 3$, it looks as if it is an official Flickr product but it is shoddy, shoddy work. The fact that Flickr had nothing to do with it doesn't repair their reputation.
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Please Flickr, please.
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Development resources are not thrown at a single model that is currently beating out another single model. They are targeted at platforms, Apple is a closed platform and the iphone (whatever version) will be the only offering on that platform and constituting a very small percentage of mobile devices over all. Blackberry and Windows mobile both offer a larger userbase but m.flcikr.com offers cheaper development and broader/non exclusive user base than any OS specific app.
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AH HA!
check out "air me"
www.airme.com/
looks like it is a dedicated flickr uploading app. looks promising.
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hm. it has some bugs, but on the web page it says they're aware of the bugs and fixing soon... fingers crossed!
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So, Flickr staff, can you tell us if this is something that's being worked on? Aside from Soubrause's response, various other Yahoo properties have either developed iphone apps or are currently developing them; can't you tell paying customers if you're doing the same for us?
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Since Flickr dropped the ball on this one, plenty of third-party developers have stepped in to fill it. As Striatic notes above, one - AirMe - made an excellent free iPhone camera client that auto-uploads - with geodata, weather data and other custom tags instact - directly into your Flickr account.
Back in the day, this is the kind of thing that Flickr would have done faster than anyone. Now, under Yahoo, initiative and originality and that kind of maverick can-do spirit seem to be totally subsumed by the new corporate culture. Too bad - especially since I don't see things getting any better.
And - Soubruse - please note that the iphoto is currently by far the most-used cameraphone for uploading images to Flickr. And the rate of increase is steeper than that of any other mobile device in the history of Flickr by a substantial margin.
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I never said the I phone wasn't the most used single device. I said the Iphone is far from the most used platform. You're comparing the iphone to the Samsung Juke or LG Chocolate. Just 1 phone, but form a developers point of view, every LG or every Samsung, or every Motorola is worth a whole lot more that apple's 1 phone and that's not taking into account that you could write something to work across all of those manufacturer's which flickr has done at m.flickr.com.
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Daniel Familia [deleted] says:
This would be an awesome app
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Asking flickr to make one is a bit odd given it's history of not releasing any dedicated apps for any phone. Why make an exception for the iPhone?
Even their partnership with Nokia hasn't yielded a dedicated application other than tweaks to nokia's existing blogging apps.
But history aside. I think it would be pretty cool if flickr worked on some of these tools.
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"Why make an exception for the iPhone?"
the iphone is more like a desktop experience than most other phones.
it is more in the realm of what flickr already does in terms of OS X and windows uploaders.
also, the iPhone is the most popular cameraphone on flickr, and that's with the iPhone stripping EXIF on email based upload and thus lowering its stats.
in these two ways, the iPhone is exceptional and may warrant an official app.
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as a new owner/user of an iphone I expected that from you Stri. ;-)
I'm not saying they shouldn't. And if they do the iPhone should definitely be at the top of that list of target platforms... I'm just saying they haven't. And if they only do it for the iPhone i'm going to be upset about wasted developer hours that only benefit a small portion of the flickr audience. ;-)
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I would love a Flickr app for the iPhone, especially if it could push to up the res on uploading from the camera roll.
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Someone just pointed out this thread from this one:
www.flickr.com/groups/central/discuss/72157612538933552/#...
I fully support the idea for an OFFICIAL iPhone/Flickr app. Not a third party one.
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At the moment on m.flickr.com it states that if you want to upload a photo, you have to Email your photo to Flickr... Which is not good enough. Most people do not have Email set up on their phones. I don't.
I have been using the Facebook application on the iPhone and it has a photo uploader that is incredible. You can upload a full res photo in seconds. Why doesn't Flickr have it's own iPhone application?
It seems strange to me that an online multimedia giant like Flickr, is behind in the world of photography uploading to Facebook. Their answer? 3rd party applications, which you have to scrawl through, install and hope they work.
Amazon has an App.
Ebay has an App.
Facebook has an App.
Flickr? NOTHING.
Come on guys. PLEASE. for the iPhone users, please put together an official iPhone application where we can upload photos with one touch. It is in DEMAND. These 3rd party applications are really not the way forward.
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"You can upload a full res photo in seconds. Why doesn't Flickr have it's own iPhone application?"
there are at least a half dozen apps that'll upload to flickr.
Shozu, Pixelpipe, Pixup, darkslide, mobile fotos, naked touch, flick up
most of these are free, and all are very good.
personally, i use mobile fotos, it'll let you set up and start a second upload while your first upload is still completing.
flickr might eventually get around to creating its own uploading app, but i'm glad they haven't created one yet because it has created room in the marketplace for all these other apps.
this means i have many more choices for uploading than i would have had otherwise.
"Amazon has an App.
Ebay has an App.
Facebook has an App.
Flickr? NOTHING."
cut the hyperbole. those sites are very different than flickr. most of them require you to be logged in for the site to become useful. amazon and Ebay to buy stuff, and Facebook requires login to see pretty much anything.
"closed" sites like this have greater need to avoid login hassles, and apps are a good way to avoid those.
conversely, flickr is much more usable while not logged in, so an ap isn't nearly as important. also, there are lots of links pointing at flickr on the web. click one on your iphone and you'll be redirected to the flickr mobile site.
flickr doesn't have to worry about people not finding the mobile site because it isn't browsable via the app store. far, far, FAR more people will find it just by tapping links in safari than would ever even think of installing a flickr app.
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[I'm Flickr Staff]
Just a quick note to say that while we're fully aware that it would be nice to have an official iPhone app, it's not as simple as just knocking one together on a Friday afternoon.
For instance:
[1] The current 3rd party apps (such as Mobile Fotos, Shozu, Pixelpipe, etc) do a perfectly good job. It's hard to justify spending our limited time and money to produce a similar product just so it can have our name on it.
[2] We're only a small team of very busy web people, none of whom know how to code iPhone apps.
[3] Expertise in building websites doesn't necessarily translate into expertise in building desktop or cellphone applications (see the many threads complaining about our desktop uploader for instance).
[4] Hiring a 3rd-party iPhone developer for this project would be much more complicated than you'd think. (Much more complicated.)
[5] Flickr's very unusual for such a large site in that we push out changes about 10 times a day, every day. Publishing a new version of an iPhone app can take a week or more (and then you have to hope people install the update). Those two models aren't really compatible.
[6] We have an enormous list of other higher-priority tasks, that would provide greater returns for more of our members.
[7] The new m.flickr.com was built so we wouldn't need to make a Flickr app for every new cellphone that comes out.
[8] Many other reasons...
Having said all that, about 70% of Flickr staff use iPhones, so we're certainly not against the idea of a Flickr iPhone app (especially an uploader); it's just not likely to be the next bit of "value" that we add to the site.
Not yet, anyway...
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[2] We're only a small team of very busy web people, none of whom know how to code iPhone apps.
~stunned~
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I do not want to use a 3rd party app. I want to use a Flickr app.
I take it you haven't tried Facebooks? Which walks all over any of the 3rd party Flickr ones. Why are you even getting up tight about it and supporting 3rd party applications, when what I am suggesting will obviously be better? There is no fight to be won here.
On the Facebook app you can click between the iPhone and the Computer and you will not be logged out on either.
And to the Facebook employee;- It is a real shame that you have that much red tape around you holding you back.
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If you look at Flickr's top cameraphones the iPhone is top for posting. It's even more popular than most point and shoot cameras, as it appears in the top cameras overall (along with DSLRs).
Why do I mention this? Well, it looks as if people are able to upload photos perfectly well without an official app. They can set up email, or use one of the many third party apps already mentioned. If they don't want to upload directly from their phone, they can sync to iPhoto and use that. Why would a Flickr-branded iPhone app obviously "be better"?
As for the fact the developers can't code iPhone apps, I'm not at all surprised. Objective C has an idiosyncratic syntax, and more importantly, the iPhone API is large and, until recently, it was only documented in one place (as opposed to, say, HTML and PHP, which are well-understood and the subject of hundreds of books and thousands of web pages). (By the way, that level of control also accounts for the red tape that the Dunstan mentions - those restrictions are put in place by Apple, not Flickr or Yahoo.)
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[3] Expertise in building websites doesn't necessarily translate into expertise in building desktop or cellphone applications (see the many threads complaining about our desktop uploader for instance).
I'm glad Dunstan said this (since he works for Flickr), because I've been thinking it during this entire discussion.
The beauty of the API is that it allow for marketplace competition, which probably does more for creating a better iPhone uploader than Flickr throwing money and resources at it.
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RareCPUs.com [deleted] says:
BLECH,
Do you seriously not understand what you just said? All your facts point quite the contrary to your argument.
If the IPhone is now currently on the top list of leading cameras submitting photos to Flickr only through a horrible uploading email method, IMAGINE how many more will come if you have an automated image uploader app from Flickr on the iphone?
And I don't believe it one bit when you say 1, your staff is very small, and 2, it's hard to develop an iphone application. What's so hard about making an uploader tool? It's a simple FTP link to the server just like any uploading tool, theres no real magic behind it. If you really do need help, pay a third party app guy $300 to show you the ropes and help you out. I have plenty of experience with app design and I believe me, I would gladly do it for free for Flickr but obviously it's more complicated (because companies tend to make things complicated for no reason).
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Dear Yahoo!
Hi, my name is Boris from the photo sharing department. We've received demand for an application on the iPhone for our service. Please can we have an increase of $500 on our yearly budget to develop a simple application. I hope this won't cause to much of a dent in your net worth of $35,000,000,000
Thank you.
Boris (Flickr Employee)
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RareCPUs.com
Calling staff liars is not going to get your request acted upon any more quickly.
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Well, if you're going to hire the 3rd party app guy to develop for Flickr, why not just use the app they've already created? ;-)
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It is my humble opinion, that Flickr should have this on the top of their list of things to do. Do they realise there are companies making money out of them by selling 3rd party applications?
Not only that, but Flickr are falling behind, on what they say is the 10th most used camera on the market!
I keep hearing people in other threads mentioning something called Twitter? Someone said "Twitter were faster than Flickr on this occasion" when referring to the plane crash in New York.
Is this something to do with Mobile phone uploading?
I am only speculating about Twitter, I have never visited their site before, but have noticed they have an application on the iPhone.
Sam
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The iPhone is actually the 2nd most-used camera on Flickr, so they are actually pulling away, not falling behind.
You might also ask that your friend stop sabotaging your threads by insulting Flickr member and Flickr staff. It hurts your cause, it does not help it.
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Also, all those Twitter applications on the iPhone are from 3rd-party developers. Just like all the Flickr applications on the iPhone are from 3rd-party developers.
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OK, ignore the twitter comment, I really had no idea what Twitter is for a start. Just keep hearing about it.
Last time I checked it was the 10th most popular camera on Flickr. So wow! Come on guys at Flickr, ask the people with the money!
Pleeeeeeeeeeeease!
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My husband used to work in cellphone applications: Dunstan's comment works in the other direction, too.
And can we keep this entirely civil, please? Many thanks.
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RareCPUs.com [deleted] says:
Why do people think I'm being uncivil, or attempting to sabotage ArchedRoof's cause? The only one sabotaging his cause are thread moderators that keep shutting the threads down.
Secondly, to be clear, I'm not calling anyone in the Flickr staff a liar.. I'm merely pointing out that the staff is not as small as all of US imagine.
When ArchedRoof says "Amazon has an App, Ebay has an App, Facebook has an App, Flickr? NOTHING", the same question of "why isn't this fruit tree bearing fruit like all the other fruit trees" is implied.. it's also a question if Flickr wants to be held back or not while the rest of the IPhone industry moves on without them; being picked off by natural selection, or so to speak.
Let's face it. Facebook has a crowd that makes the Flickr community look nearly INVISIBLE So why PUSH AWAY those people who want to upload their images on the spot, at the push of a button? Why can facebook do it, and you can't? Last I checked, you'd find Flickr in the definition of the word PHOTOGRAPHY in the dictionary. So why let a social tool like facebook do what you're meant to be doing?
And even if Flickr decides not to make an Iphone app, could they at least make a 21st century uploader on m.flickr.com? Last I checked this wasn't the 90's when people could only communicate by email.
Example: Godzilla appears. You think people will upload their photos to facebook, or Flickr? Instant uploader vs email forwarder thing.. I'll let you decide
One last thing, I by all means am forever appreciative of Flickr and the services it has brought for us; I'm just being, for lack of a better word, "political" towards Flickr's agenda.
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WE are not imagining anything. It's Flickr staff that said, "We're only a small team of very busy web people, none of whom know how to code iPhone apps."
versus "And I don't believe it one bit when you say 1, your staff is very small, "
Um, you don't have to believe Flickr staff, that's your right. But saying so out loud makes people believe that you think Flickr staff is lying when they say something you don't believe one bit.
What I don't understand is your insistence that Flickr staff MUST be the ones to develop this, and that you won't accept ANY third-party application. The whole point of Flickr making the API available is so that anyone who wants to can create cool new Flickr apps.
Why not use cool new apps? Why insist that Flickr drop more important work that benefits many more users? Flickr staff just told you [6] We have an enormous list of other higher-priority tasks, that would provide greater returns for more of our members.
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RareCPUs.com [deleted] says:
ColleenM,
I merely meant that a website like Flickr is 90% automated and requires a few people max to maintain it. Are you telling me there are 3 people working at Flickr? 30? or 300? what is small to Flickr is large to you and I.
And like I said, they can trash the idea of an Iphone app but at LEAST give us a upload tool. No one likes forwarding emails
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What's could possibly be more important than an upload tool; the basis and foundation of Flickr itself?
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i stayed out of this, but...
i worked for swbell/cellone for years. left before the att merger.
cellco's MIGHT provide proprietary apps for their devices, and as the iPhone is an ATT linked device, they could do the dev... but they won't.
pay $3 for a cheapie app. the beauty of the iPhone and iPod Touch is that Apple have made it easy for outside dev people, even individuals, to author cool tools... and that includes you, j l t, if you want.
official flickr software is not easy to develop when it's for a single platform and there is nobody versed in it on staff.
pay the $3 and be happy. or grouse. up to you.
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facebook v. flickr.
this is the epic battle of the year online, and a salient point.
but with 3d party apps, some of the differential is rendered moot.
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wrote: [I'm Flickr Staff]
Just a quick note to say that while we're fully aware that it would be nice to have an official iPhone app, it's not as simple as just knocking one together on a Friday afternoon.
For instance:
[1] The current 3rd party apps (such as Mobile Fotos, Shozu, Pixelpipe, etc) do a perfectly good job. It's hard to justify spending our limited time and money to produce a similar product just so it can have our name on it.
[2] We're only a small team of very busy web people, none of whom know how to code iPhone apps.
[3] Expertise in building websites doesn't necessarily translate into expertise in building desktop or cellphone applications (see the many threads complaining about our desktop uploader for instance).
[4] Hiring a 3rd-party iPhone developer for this project would be much more complicated than you'd think. (Much more complicated.)
[5] Flickr's very unusual for such a large site in that we push out changes about 10 times a day, every day. Publishing a new version of an iPhone app can take a week or more (and then you have to hope people install the update). Those two models aren't really compatible.
[6] We have an enormous list of other higher-priority tasks, that would provide greater returns for more of our members.
[7] The new m.flickr.com was built so we wouldn't need to make a Flickr app for every new cellphone that comes out.
[8] Many other reasons...
Having said all that, about 70% of Flickr staff use iPhones, so we're certainly not against the idea of a Flickr iPhone app (especially an uploader); it's just not likely to be the next bit of "value" that we add to the site.
Not yet, anyway...
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RareCPUs.com [deleted] says:
Rippie,
I paid top top dollar for my iphone to get it without a contract so $3 isn't an issue for me. It's just outright wrong on so many levels. For starters, why does Flickr have to lose $3 for every download to some 3rd party app developer? If flickr made an app for $3, Id buy it. For $1.99 I'd buy it even more. I can already see Flickr gaining it's losses back within the same month, if any such loss even exists.
Now ASIDE that fact, and saying Flick decides not to make an app... Why can't they add an upload tool to m.flickr.com? This is the main question that everyone keeps dodging.
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RareCPUs.com [deleted] says:
Like I said Jake, a lot of points are being dodged and progress is procrastinated.
ONE SIMPLE QUESTION: Why can't they even add an uploader to the m.flickr.com site?
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No one owes you any answers RareCPUs. No one is going to debate you, I think it's now past the point where any one is even going to engage you.
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really. if you paid a premium for your iphone, where i went with the phone i like and a Touch, then you are keen to pay the $3 to buy the app you like. if it does what you want, who cares if it is "by" flickr or not??
considering the FAR more important issues facing the devteam, and that there is actually a choice of cheap solutions available, i don't often, but in this case, i agree with jake.
buy the app you like. it will cost you a few minutes of work. tah-dah.
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RareCPUs.com [deleted] says:
You still dont understand.. why do people take the easy way out? NO ONE has answered my question:
Saying they scrap the iphone idea, why havent they developed an uploader for m.flickr.com?
Jake, please, no need to get hostile. I'm merely voicing the obvious.
and Rippie, the iphone is a phone I like, I use the data plan almost religiously and it's filled with media. Besides, the iphone is superior to anything else out there in terms of style and functionality, so I have no need for a second phone. It does everything I want it to do. Please, before you reply, theres no need for an "is the iphone the best phone" debate as that is my opinion.
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Why havent they developed an uploader for m.flickr.com?
Because there's no access to the file system from the web browser.
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"Saying they scrap the iphone idea, why havent they developed an uploader for m.flickr.com?"
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"If flickr made an app for $3, Id buy it."
photobucket tried to charge 3 bucks for an official application and people screamed bloody murder.
why on earth would flickr want to go through that, when by not producing an iphone app, they open up space in the market to give consumers all kinds of choice they wouldn't otherwise have?
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Come on guys at Flickr, ask the people with the money!
Not a great idea when the response is likely to be "How about instead we lay off more of your staff so we look leaner when Microsfot tries to buy us?" Last I checked, the economy is in the toilet and Yahoo isn't exactly rolling in piles of free money.
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I think the Flickr site is perfect. I love it and for how I intend to use it, all extra ideas are a bonus.
No application on the iPhone though really does not make sense. I am not going to download a third party app. I wouldn't know which to choose, I wouldn't want to have to choose, and within a week there will be a better one out. On top of that I am setting myself up for adverts, paying someone I don't trust etc etc. 3rd party applications are just not the way forward here.
Flickr agrees. It seems. But cannot see it adding 'value' to the site. Well it does for me, and I am sure, many other people. I will pay for such an application. FROM FLICKR ONLY.
It's the brilliance and popularity of the Facebook application that has started all this for me.
Flickr - Please reconsider.
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I have no iPhone and am not likely to ever own one.
I would much rather Flickr allocated its finite development resources to projects that were of benefit to a larger segment of its user base than simply "iPhone owners".
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Oh, but they started selling iPhones in Vermont for the first time yesterday. That should increase the user base by two or three.
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Wow -- the length of this thread makes it look like an awful lot of people are asking for this. I just want to say that insisting repeatedly that Flickr change its development priorities now isn't going to help. The request is here, and there's already an answer. I'm sure more people will come along to add their voices to the request, and that, maybe, will start to shift development priorities -- though there's much more, as stated and quoted again above, that goes into development prioritizing than either volume or number of requests.
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3rd party applications are just not the way forward here.
Flickr agrees. It seems.
In my opinion, much of Flickr's early success was due to its open API that allows 3rd party developers to create things that make the site better for the users.
As for Facebook, most of their value relies on 3rd party developers making applications that display on the site itself. Why not demand they ripoff, say, SuperPoke because 3rd party applications aren't their way forward?
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RareCPUs.com [deleted] says:
Wooble,
It's facebooks own developers that made facebook what it is today
And it's third party app developers are the cause for those STUPID ads and invitation things, which is driving people AWAY from facebook.
I hope I proved archedRoofs point
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Ah, no, Facebook encourages its developers to use those ads -- how else do you think Facebook gets any revenue? You may have noticed that there is no paid Facebook account available. The only way FB makes money is by advertising.
The Flickr API, on the other hand, is open to any developer to use, and many developers write apps and don't even charge money for them! Imagine!
The Flickr API is everything that is good about the free market, with few of the spoils. The open development and competition equals more choice for all Flickr users! More choice generally means better software. Better software means more usability It also means that staff resources are put to good use in developing projects that benefit all Flickr users, not just ones with a specific platform.
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Y'know, reading through this again, I think I understand why Flickr doesn't make applications for mobile devices now. If they did, people would expect it to be perfect. They would expect upgrades. They would expect no interruption in service. They would expect it to be free. And they would expect it for other phones, like Blackberries and Android and WebOS and Symbian. And they would expect Flickr to keep all those applications up to date and working perfectly.
An iPhone app would be great. But I think I understand Dunstan's point better now.
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RareCPUs.com [deleted] says:
Jake,
Why do you keep putting down Flickr's ability to produce such an app?
"no interruption in service"
As long as the site is up and running, so would the app. They are connected to the same server.
"free"
Speaks for itself. Smart companies give out "free" apps to make money, and NOTHING else. The Flickr employee said it himself. No people interested, no one downloads the app, and the chance of one of those app users signing up for a pro account to make them money doesn't happen.
Since they don't see enough money coming out of a Flickr app, they won't produce it. Stop acting like you work for the company and stop defending it. Yes they're good and they provide a good service, but it's only to generate revenue. (This just serves as an example, if they make an iphone app people will come)
We're just asking for this app to create a win win situation here. if they make the app, MILLIONS of people will see it, and odds are a percentage of them will upgrade to a pro account.
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And there are iPhone apps, and the iPhone is the top most used cameraphone on Flickr right now, and is, in fact, so popular that it's listed as the camera that is 5th in total uploads:
flickr.com/cameras/
1 Canon EOS Digital Rebel XTi
2 Canon EOS Digital Rebel XT
3 Nikon D80
4 Canon EOS 40D
5 Apple iPhone
So, I'm not seeing a problem here. iPhone users are using Flickr, even without an official app. And, they have their choice of apps! Total win-win.
So, what is the problem? If there was a problem, why would there be more iPhone uploads than many other camera types, including the dSLR that I shoot with?
Originally posted 41 months ago.
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RareCPUs.com
What the staff have already said
[6] We have an enormous list of other higher-priority tasks, that would provide greater returns for more of our members.
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RareCPUs.com [deleted] says:
Zyrcster,
That's a double edge sword! It can also be high because there are so many IPhone users in the first place. It shouldn't be 5th, it should be FIRST. The number of people using an Iphone compared to those using a Canon EOS Rebel XTi...what's the ratio? 1 in 10,000?
I mean how much could it POSSIBLY cost to make an Iphone app? I'm just dying to know in general. Let's talk about money issues because I clearly don't understand how a multi billion dollar corporation (Flickr is part of Yahoo, let's not forget) can't come up with a simple Iphone app?
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Then go look up Yahoo's financials, bearing in mind that they just went through a round of lay-offs. Their stock is down to $11 or so, and I have no idea what their revenue stream looks like today. But I somehow doubt they are rolling around in the money. As for how hard can it be, I don't know. Why don't you build yourself one, then?
If the choice is between Flickr working on features that benefit every user and working on one app that benefits only a percentage of users, I'll take the "work on the thing that benefits all" any day. And where does it stop? Flickr makes no Uploader for Linux -- a 3rd party does. What about Blackberries and Android and WebOS and Symbian (as Jake mentioned)?
Regardless, Dunstan's statement is pretty clear (and staff is usually not that explicit or clear). It's not on the map right now. Nada. Meanwhile, there are how many 3rd party apps for the iPhone? A few, right? That upload. AirMe and shozu? Rave reviews around the net if you Google them.
I wonder why you even use Flickr given how much disregard you have for small developers. Flickr came from a handful of developers and then later was acquired by Yahoo. Your disdain for 3rd party developers indicates... what? That unless it comes from a giant, it's worthless? Gee, I oughta just go run out and buy Windows 7 then, since Microsoft makes it, therefore it must be good.
I don't get the logic, and based on what Dunstan had to say, I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for Flickr to build something that already exists and that already works for users.
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Unlike what usually happens in these topics, this one got a very quick response from staff -- one that's detailed and reasoned and that leaves no room to think that repeating the same request is going to get anywhere. It's understood that people want a non-third-party iPhone app; I hope it's also understood that staff have clearly said that one is on their own list but isn't their top priority and can't be done now with current resources.
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RareCPUs.com [deleted] says:
Let me make this clear to you all with a fine example..
You're working, then your company finds out they can hire someone in India to do your job for pennies on the dollar. You're fired because it saves the company money. Same thing here. Flickr's taking the easy way out with these small 3rd party app guys. But what happens when they become big? Everyone fails to think further down the line, which is exactly why Yahoo is worth $11 a share and not $40.
I'm done arguing here. Hope you're not all as thickheaded as you displayed yourselves
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RareCPUs.com, nobody's saying that a Flickr-developed iPhone app wouldn't be a good thing -- for many reasons. Personally, I was just pointing out that in the context of how requests to Flickr go, you've got a clearer answer than most of where this request sits at the moment in development plans. But this Forum has been getting far to much into name-calling and the like lately, and I'd like to head that off, on everyone's part.
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I'm done arguing here. Hope you're not all as thickheaded as you displayed yourselves
You're the only one arguing, everyone else is patiently trying to explain that the sky is blue, so to speak.
I mean how much could it POSSIBLY cost to make an Iphone app? I'm just dying to know in general
Cost is actually irrelevant. The developers cost the same whether they make an iPhone app or twiddle their thumbs. Benefits are important, and it's here that your comparison to the Canon Rebel is apt:
• everyone who owns a Canon Rebel can be assumed to have at least a passing interest in taking pictures with it.
• Going on current trends, the most popular iPhone app imaginable would probably be named 'iBeerFart'.
I.e., there aren't a lot of potential Flickr customers there, it's simply a different market. Like selling air conditioning in Nunavut: oh my god! noone up there has A/C!? What a marketing opportunity! Think of the potential new customers!
Combine with that the fact that the bits of Flickr that work with a Rebel work with virtually any camera made, and that an iPhone app works with an iPhone, and the weight of benefits seems pretty clear.
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Still sat in my corner here, hoping that an iPhone application for Flickr, by Flickr gets made. It does seem like the only thing missing off the iPhone :)
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it seems I was banned on flickr. What is this communism? I said nothing offense nor did I swear or post any links..
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What is this communism?
No, it's the opposite, really, it's a private business that has its own rules for conduct within the community. If you don't know why your account was deleted, use Help by Email at the foot of the page to ask.
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it seems I was banned on flickr. What is this communism? I said nothing offense nor did I swear or post any links..
You will have to ask Help By Email for an official answer, but I'm going to take a guess and suggest you read the terms of service, paying particular attention to the word "commercial" in the sense of "relating to commerce".
I could be wrong, it's just a guess.
(Swearing is not only allowed, in lots of places it's fucking encouraged.)
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For non-jail-broken iphones... Mobile Photos is quite good (and cheap enough in my mind)... have been happy with it, and the mobile flickr skinned for the iphone is nice too.
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I don't see why an official Flickr App hasn't come out for the iPhone. They created one for Blackberry & it worked perfectly! I have tried some of the apps for jailbreaks, but they kinda suck
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I am now using Flickit (On the iphone)
www.flickr.com/photos/i-phone
It works fine and is pretty basic.
I still believe Flickr should have put out a simple application like it though. Perhaps including functions from m.flickr.com
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i use darkslide for free on my iphone you can view contacts pictures, upload pics, view pics taken in local area, search for a picture, set, theme etc. just wish flickr had a dedicated app to view stats, send mails and comments and view groups
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Ok how about this... A basic Flickr branded uploader? I currently have a Safari shortcut to Flickr on my 1st tab. It has a Flickr icon & all (screenshot in my stream). My main issue is that I don't want some icon on my phone for a 3rd party app & doesnt say Flickr or have a flickr icon... Yes, call it petty. But I want it to be Flickr with a Flickr icon. Blue & Pink being the choice...
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Two months ago, I posted:
I have no iPhone and am not likely to ever own one.
I would much rather Flickr allocated its finite development resources to projects that were of benefit to a larger segment of its user base than simply "iPhone owners".
OK, so I was completely wrong on the first point. A lot can happen in two months and I now have an iPhone. I stand by the second point though. Flickr is well-represented by third-party apps already - I see no point in duplicating functionality that's already available.
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Welcome to the light side.
By far the best and most useful gadget I have every ever EVER owned.
I've never been keep on Apple and it's cotton wool wrapping, but the iPhone is just incredible.
And back on topic - A Flickr Developed Application please. Base it on the Facebook Application.
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Ok so I found a annoying workaround. I have my direct link to Flickr on the home screen. Then I found an app called "Flickit". The icon is horrid, so I made my own & decided to use that. It works for now, but will become a major annoyance soon enough...
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i would love a flickr app. even just for browsing and checking your activity, i think it would be great.
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Yes yes yes +1 +1 +1
I'm using Flickit at the moment. It's free and works well for this: www.flickr.com/i-phone account.
But I would love a proper Flickr application, made by Flickr, for Flickr with all the functionality of the full Flickr site. A clone of Facebook's application would be close to perfect.
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STΞPH [OИ & OҒҒ] [deleted] says:
I'm using Mobile Fotos and it works quite well. You can upload pictures (name them, add a description, add tags, add to an existing set and create a new set, add to one group only, add your current location, deal with your privacy/safety/content type options), view your pictures, your contact's pictures, your groups, explore, search and it even has a "Nearby" feature that I haven't seen on flickr (maybe it exists but I haven't seen it). You can also manage multiple accounts with it and you also have an access to your iPhone camera from the main page of the app.
This is not an app that lets you manage what's already uploaded in your flickr account and, honestly, if you own an iPhone I'm pretty sure you also own a computer and an internet connection or have access to one. So you can always do what you have to do with your pictures uploaded from your iPhone later :)
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Where are Flickr at for creating an iPhone application?
Lets have a look at the other giants on the web who have iPhone dedicated apps...
Google
Wikipedia
Facebook
Myspace
And considering that the most popular camera on the camera finder is the iPhone, don't you think it's about time?
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Just posted a new thread in the group, sorry admins.
Flickr is one of the world's famous site now. Why isn't there any official iPhone app? (which could have features like Flick photos left or right, comment / fave easier / zoom into a photo by one tap etc)
Many thanks!
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I want a dedicated Flickr app for the Sinclair ZX Spectrum and I want it now.
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This (an iPhone app) seems to now be available!
Member-started Help Forum topic here: www.flickr.com/help/forum/en-us/105668/
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(installing) (thanks for the heads up and link)
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I like the new app. Its very smooth and pretty. I would like a little more functionality though-- I'd like to be able to see my stats, and my groups, and forum posts, etc. I hope they can build on this good start.
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