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Canon 5D Digital SLR Camera
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Canon is now shipping their new 5D digital SLR camera. It is, as of this writing, the world's smallest and lightest full-frame digital SLR with a full-frame 12.8 megapixel CMOS image sensor at a breakthrough price of under $3500 US without a lens.
That is still a lot of money for a digital camera for many of us. But consider that until the 5D was announced, the only other digital SLR camera that had a full-frame sensor and comparable or greater resolution to the 5D, was the Canon EOS-1Ds Mark II (which Yuri uses as his main digital SLR).

The 1Ds Mk II, at around $7500 US, costs more than twice as much as the 5D and weighs 2.7lbs/1.2kilos without a lens, compared to 1.8lbs/0.8kilos for the 5D. For all that extra money you do get a 16.7 megapixel CMOS image sensor and larger file sizes, faster motor drive capabilities, a ruggedized and sealed camera body and a host of other "pro" features.
Oh, and the 1Ds II built like a tank and your will feel like you've been riding in one after walking around and shooting with it all day. And just like a tank, the 1Ds II turns heads whenever you take it out to shoot on location. Not exactly what you want if you're out doing some candid or documentary picture taking.

The reason I'm telling you all this is because Yuri, a founding member of Photosensitive, a documentary collective, will be traveling to Sri Lanka in late October, to take part in the groups latest project, which will document the region's recovery from last year's catastrophic tsunami. So Yuri is considering taking along the new 5D as an alternative to lugging around the big 1Ds II.
I've already had a look a pre-production version of the 5D as well as the new 24-105 at a launch event and I have to say that it is one impressive combo (or kit as everybody seems to be calling them these days). It has all the hallmarks of being a breakthrough combination of camera and lens in terms of price, performance and portability. And I say that having been a life-long Nikon photographer. This one might just break me.
Anyway, we thought that it might be a good opportunity to use the upcoming trip as a way to do a field test report and subsequent review of the 5D here on FFF, but with a twist. In most instances, the person doing a review takes the camera, lens or whatever other gadget they are trying out and goes off to try it, reports back the findings and then ask for reader feedback.
In this case it might be more useful, and fun, to ask you to share whatever questions, comments or curiosities you have about the 5D, before the field test. What do you think? Does it make sense to do a review this way? Let us know what you think and what you'd like to know about the camera.
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PS. Do bear in mind that all of this is tentative planning, as the 5D may not be available as a production model in time for the Sri Lanka trip, or some other reason may crop up that delays the field-test and review. But review it we will at some point, preferably in this new flickrfotoforum-friendly format ( I know, I know, if I keep this up with all the fs, the next one that will come out of your mouth will not be a polite one, but please forgive me just this once), where you post the questions and comments first and then we try to get you some useful answers.
PSS. If you're interested in finding out more about the Canon 5D, you might want to check out this pre-production model www.dpreview.com/articles/canoneos5d/ by Michael Reichmann, over at luminous-landscape.com
Originally posted at 12:15PM, 24 September 2005 PDT
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geoperdis edited this topic 81 months ago.
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OoOooOoOohh!! I'd have to sell a kidney for one of those cameras!
The 5D according to you is lighter... but with the lenses I have, I'm wondering if that's going to make it front heavy??
Posted 81 months ago.
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It shouldn't if it's similar in weight and size to the 20D. I'm becoming more and more interested in purchasing this camera for my ever expanding portrait photography business. As I eventually plan to add weddings to the mix, I will need another camera body. The 5D would seem to be the perfect camera for the wedding photographer, given its features. And I don't consider the $3300 price tag to be out of line for a full frame camera. It would pay for itself during one wedding "season."
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Cherry, Elizabeth is right, the 5D is about the size of a Canon 20D or Nikon D70, balances nicely with a variety of lenses and handles very comfortably. I'm currious, what lenses do you use and want to know if they will be front heavy on the 5D?
Elizabeth, at the 5D trade event, Canon identified portrait and event photographers as one of the groups that will be very interested in the 5D, so you comments about it are spot on. And the price for the performance is very reasonable if you can make it pay for itself.
Posted 81 months ago.
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I've already heard people refer to this as "the wedding photographer camera," thus my interest. Wedding photographers are difficult to come by in this area, so I don't think I'd have any problem recouping the cost.
Posted 81 months ago.
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Thank you Elizabeth and Geo....
I'm so new to the photography world, and this is my very first SLR.
I have a huge 90-300mm telephoto lens that when attached to my Rebel, it becomes really front heavy.
Posted 81 months ago.
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For that large a lens, you should use a tripod anyway. Just out of curiousity, what brand is it? I'm not familiar with a lens with a 90-300mm range, though it sounds intriguing.
Posted 81 months ago.
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I've been looking at moving to an SLR and I am looking early -thinking of making the move early next year. When I saw the specs on Canon's site and I read some previews I got overly excited. While the Canon 20D and Nikon D70 are more in the area of where I should start, I think I have a stronger interest in moving to this camera...
I might be in love :)
Posted 81 months ago.
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The D70 is the equivalent, I believe, to the Canon consumer level DSLR's. It is a very good piece of equipment from what I have seen. The 20D is a step up from that and is an extremely versatile camera capable of high ISO's and rapid fire shots. If you like sports, it's a great, affordable alternative to the 1 series bodies. The 5D is a high resolution camera that is slower in fps than the 20D and is reportedly appealing to portrait, wedding, and landscape photographers. I believe I read over on one of the FM boards that it has two shooting modes in the menu, which is somewhat akin to the capabilities of the Nikon D2X. And it's rumored to have the ISO visible on the screen!
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That's a good point Liza, I missed that in the specs when I went back through.
5D = 3fps // 20D = 5fps
...but I'll be interested to see if there is a difference when using a high-speed memory card. I know it's not apples to apples, but on my Canon SD400 you are supposed to get (at best) 2.1 fps...which I found hard to obtain -to say the least. However, that is with a standard SD card. When I upgraded to an Ultra II card I typically get 2fps and when the lighting is ideal so the camera doesn't have to think as much (remember it's automatic) I can get +5fps.
Does anyone know if the same situation (faster memory card = better fps) holds true with dSLR?
Posted 81 months ago.
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Don't think so. The "high speed" of the card can't make the camera write any faster than it was designed to do.
Posted 81 months ago.
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Faster cards are better. I've been using Sandisk Extreme and it makes a difference. Not only for speed but mostly for safety. But I am using 1DsMarkII. That makes a difference too.
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geoperdis edited this topic 81 months ago.
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I just found this link on FM that might be of interest to those considering the 5D.
www.virtualtraveller.org/5dv20d/5dv20d.htm
The comparison between 20D and 5D isn't particularly scientific due to the fact that they used completely different lenses to test each camera. The link does, however, show off the dynamic range of the 5D.
Posted 81 months ago.
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Just a question to the Experts here
being relatively new to photography
-zero film experience
I started enjoying photography 4 years ago and my digital experience (hobby)
My 1st camera was a Nikon Coolpix 885
Im on my second digital camera , I recently purchased a Canon Sd500
It works great, but I feel the next jum p coming
Why would a casual photographer (me)
need a Digital SLR ?
perhaps I should by an older film camera and learn some photo basics
Thx
JP
Originally posted 81 months ago.
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johncpiercy edited this topic 81 months ago.
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Sounds like an excellent idea. You can get good used film cameras for next to nothing these days, since many people are selling their film equipment and switching to digital. I've been considering the purchase of an EOS 3 or 1V myself.
Posted 81 months ago.
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Hello.
I've got a fabulous Canon AE1, and a digital compact Canon A95. I'm going to buy a new SLR digital camera. I've thinked 2 options: Canon EOS 350D, and Canon 20D. Which differences are between them? I know that EOS350D is cheaper but pehaps it becomes small in a few time. Have you got any recomendation?
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I'm too biased to give an answer to this question, so I'll just post this link to Bob Atkins' comparison article.
www.bobatkins.com/photography/digital/eos_digital_rebel_x...
Posted 81 months ago.
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Test images and first impression about the 5D camera and 24-105 lens are here www.flickr.com/groups/flickrfotoforum/discuss/95168/
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The speed of the CF card should not effect the FPS. The limit here is in the speed of the internal buffer which is the same speed in both 5D and 20D. The internal buffer is 4.5 times bigger in the 5D giving 17 RAW fames compared to the 20Ds 6 RAW frames. The 5D is 12.4MB/frame vs 20D 8.3MB/frame hence the difference in fps.
The speed of the CF card will determine how long you will wait until the internal buffer has been fully written to the card.
An interesting test would be to see what happens to the fps when the internal buffer is full. Will the 5D still allow you to take photos at the maximum rate of the CF card?
Posted 81 months ago.
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I just read an interesting thread on another forum about the file sizes produced by the 5D.
Here's the link.
www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/286479
Originally posted 81 months ago.
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Studio E edited this topic 81 months ago.
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That's odd...on a 2GB card with 20 images, the images would have to be larger than 100MB each to fill the card. From what I read at dpreview.com and another site the statistics showed just under 45 RAW shots for a 1GB card and approx 90 RAW images for a 2GB card -for this camera. I wonder if he needed to reformat it before using it...
(reading the article now)
Posted 81 months ago.
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If you read carefully, he says it's 96 images on a 2gb card. With RAW only you should get just over 100.
The table correlates approxamately with a 128mb card. I have no idea where this table is from. Maybe the manual?
Posted 81 months ago.
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I stand corrected and have edited my prior post. Still, that isn't many images for that size of card. I guess you have to make some concessions for the sake of greater quality.
Posted 81 months ago.
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@photosam: Good catch #2 ;)
@Liza: I agree with you that it is not many images. A 4GB card seems to be better suited for the larger images...maybe even 8GB (approx. $800). SanDisk did just start producing solid-state memory (iNand) at 2GB for CompactFlash and they plan to release 4GB March of next year. It's way more reliable and durable than the current MicroDrive solutions.
(more info on iNand: www.mobilemag.com/content/100/349/C4752/)
Posted 81 months ago.
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@Liza11
It's not you that needed correcting, it was a badly written review.
I think they forgot to keep the important text that read something like "These figures are for a 256mb card"
Unfortunately FM reviews are often riddled with errors. That and the occasional person who can't operate a camera and blames there equipment ;)
Posted 81 months ago.
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5D is still not enough to make me invest in digital equipment, though starting to become very attractive - still too big too heavy and I believe I will still want to upgrade within 3 years (so too expensive).
I don't mind wait for 2 more years, and enjoy the very very last few years in the entire history of photography during whhich ordinary people like me (not professional) can still use film cheaply and conveniently.
Posted 81 months ago.
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