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some cool photos of Shelley and the team behind all the magic:
Shelley
Deborah
Deb is in charge of the Digital Lab where all the scanning gets done.
Ed
Typically, when people on Flickr have questions about our material, Ed is the one trying to dig up answers.
Hi!
So nice to put faces to the names and the amazing collection!
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OK, so we might as well ask....these are all sections of our Goodyear Collection that are ready-to-go, but currently cloaked on our profile. We can't release all this material at once or we have issues with traffic and workload, so we need to go slow. Moving forward, what are you interested in seeing? What should we de-cloak first? Anything here that sparks an interest or has cross-collection Commons relevance?
Tell us what you think - we are looking forward to hearing from you. (comment here or on the photo upload?)
-shelley
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Hey Shelley
We have a group of panoramas up (rural and street scenes) which will keep growing over time - so cross-collection wise, that rings my bells.
On the other hand, the museums & galleries set is beckoning my personal interests ...
-Courtney
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Oooh, I love this- sneak previews!
A veritable smorgasbord of choices!
I'm rather intrigued by the 'Museums and Galleries' for a starter. Would you happen to know if any of the other Commons members are featured in the photos?
And for the main course, maybe the 'Street Scenes and panoramas'?
I like the way it would link up with other photos already on the Commons.
And I'll let you choose dessert.
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wow, this is so cool - so many people are saying the same thing. in museums and galleries, there are not other commons members in there (yet) but when Erin was uploading them (thanks, Erin) she was fascinated by them because some of the institutions depicted are no longer with us and the others have totally changed.
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I'd love to see the Turkish Mosques, personally. Sometimes I can't tell over in my Architecture group what's new Islamic architecture and what's old -- I'd love to see a set that's clearly *not* new.
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The Turkish Mosques photographs are beautiful. I think the interior shots especially. I can't wait for them to go live and for the side by side then-now comparisons to start. (I'm the Erin that did the uploading/grouping of the images, BTW.)
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A vote here for Middle East ruins! Especially since who knows that these sites might look like today (or if they even are intact anymore). But then again, I'm a historical-political junkie for all things Middle East.
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oh, and Hi Erin!!
So cool to have you here and get the inside scoop : )
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When we were first working on the Goodyear Collection, where these images come from -- back in 1986! -- I just knew they were winners and wanted to get them out to the world. Back then it was so hard. What a change digitization and the Internet have made.
Imagine being a curator in the first couple of decades of the 1900s: Goodyear would head off to Europe to do his research for a couple of months at a time, camera, tripod and, presumably all the equipment he needed to make, shoot, and develop glass negatives on hand. He climbed all over the buildings you see in the pictures making measurements, hanging plumb lines, and checking angles.
This was all in support of his complicated theories on medieval architecture (pretty controversial in their time). Many of the photos are annotated on the back with what he was seeing and how it fit in with his theories, plus what camera lens he used, the f stop and exposure length. So they're more than a photostream of great pictures, they're clues to Goodyear's life and work.
And for us now, though, they're amazing documents of what these cities and buildings looked like before two World Wars. One of my favorite shots -- from Italy I think -- shows all of these little sheds nestled up against the walls of a magnificent cathedral. It just feels like a window into real life in 1910.
Really amazing stuff -- I can really get wound up about these images. So glad you're excited about seeing them!
(Oh, and I should probably note that I used to be the archivist at the Museum before I went of to the "dark side" and became the digital imaging maven (not that I wasn't when I was archivist).
Deb
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+1 street scenes
+1 mosques
+1 ruins (of any kind)
in that order :)
ps, thanks for the invite to this cool group
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Turkey
Street scenes
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@roketpad - our pleasure, had a feeling you'd like it!
Hey everyone, a quick note - we sort of posted what might be called a video response if we were on YouTube to some materials the NYPL just uploaded....check this out:
www.flickr.com/photos/brooklyn_museum/3125185445/
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I'd say Italy: Cloisters and convents(cause it sounds like off the beaten path stuff) and Turkey Mosques for the architecture.
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wow - that's really cool, Shelley.
A very neat Cross-Commons link up with the New York Public Library!
I also love Erin's description , too.
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This just popped up on my contacts' page:
Getting married at City Hall in NYC?
The Manhattan Marriage Bureau did a little redecorating with paintings on loan from the Brooklyn Museum in the chapels.
Click through the photo for links to the NYTimes and video!
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Panoramas and Pompeii are of interest.
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Hey everyone,
Got a question for you. As most of you know, we have all these sets uploaded, but cloaked on our Flickr feed...now it's time to release a couple. As noted in this comment the question is how to get an entire set's worth of images to appear at the top of the feed. I had thought that we could batch process "date uploaded" in the Organizer, but I must have been mistaken...or I can't seem to find that feature (or I've got a bug on the account). Not sure.
Have any ideas on this? If not, we will just de-cloak, put a set announcement here when we release and move the sets to the top of the profile layout.
Thanks for your help,
Shelley
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The only way that I can think that I would do that, would be by opening the set in organizr as you have said already, and change the 'date uploaded' time, image by image. You could make them a couple of seconds apart, but I think where the timing is the same, flickr just separates them by seconds' for you. It's a pain having to do them one by one, especially if the set is enormous, but I don't think you can 'batch change' the times.
On the whole, within the 'main flickr', I'm not sure that changing the time of upload to get your image to the front of your stream is being encouraged, so it's actually not as straightforward as it seems it should be. (There are some who work the system to keep their image on the top of their contacts thumbnails you see, to increase exposure. Rumour has it, that images that have been uploaded in this manner won't get to Explore, but I have absolutely no way of knowing if that is true/validating it and it isn't really relevant in this context at all.)
Anyway, it seems that within the original context of flickr, batch-upload time alterations are counter intuitive to the social-sharing-fair thing. In the context of The Commons however, batch upload time alterations would be a very specifically helpful application to manage the interface in a more timely and efficient manner, so I can see why you are asking.
I'm not a techie at all, but I wonder if a Greasemonkey extension is even feasible for The Commons Institutions to use? Possibly worth waiting to see if someone who knows about the design specific stuff drops in.... :)
Excited about the forthcoming new sets being unveiled though......
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If you have a programmer on your team handy, you could script the task using this API method:
flickr.photos.setDates.
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@ clickykbd: Hehe.
Now that's what I call a great response time! :)
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hmmm @ trapac...That makes a lot of sense and now I'm starting to see why it's not not a function to do it easily. @clickykbd We do, but everyone is busy on other projects right now, so it is difficult to make it a priority given everything else going on, but I'm glad to know the final answer (thanks, both!) - It's not as clean as I'd like, but I think I'll announce here and maybe put a set screenshot up for people in our contacts to see as an announcement as well. Many thanks for the help, shelley
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@Brooklyn Museum: Shelley, I think an announcement and a screenshot in this thread would be great, and then dropping the screenshot in the group pool would help too.
Look forward to seeing it.
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!! Look at what roketpad just did !! Look at all these notes!! So cool, thanks roketpad!
www.flickr.com/photos/brooklyn_museum/2784217831/
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Amazing, amazing levels of collaborative research and cross referencing there. Wow!
Indicommons calls.....
Again so it seems.... :)
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Hey, Rob (Roketpad) - thanks for all those notes on our photos - I can see you are still working at it, and it really brings new life to those images - the cross institution refs are fantastic, too. I just finished reading The Devil in the White City and I'm tempted to blog about this progress you've made. No matter what, I will be talking about this effort everywhere I speak about The Commons as one of the really good examples of things that can happen here. And if Indiecommons is calling, well, I'm reading (ok, I do anyway)! I just spent some time this morning forwarding to my colleagues in the Libraries & Archives. Many thanks, Shelley
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My pleasure, Shelley! I'm glad you liked it!
I really started with the modest goal of making sense of the Midway... then once I had a 3d model in my head I kept going until my head stopped. I'll probably work through more of them off and on, but my nights are going to be spent on grad school again starting Monday
:-Q
If there's a story behind this, it's how to find supporting material and step into the photo.
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Rob, I know we talked about this before...but I wonder if anyone in this group knows anyone on the dev team at Photosynth? If there was some way we could synth all these Colombian Expo photos manually...it might be really cool. -shelley
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The Synth tool that it asks you to install after you've created a photosynth account and selected "create synth" does allow for selecting multiple photos to upload in one batch via "shift+click" or "control+click" when in the file-browser.
Maybe you do not have these all on disk in an easy way to select... but pulling the flickr copies of a set down into a single directory is something maybe the developer types here could help you accomplish?
I'm not sure how public these user created photo-synths are once uploaded. If it turned out really cool photosynth might indeed want to know about it. There may also be a photosynth API for doing such things that is not advertised very publicly yet.
Along with photosynth, comes seadragon (another MS Live labs tool, and photosynth actually uses it), I've always though some "Seadragon" ways to browse massive "contact sheets" of whole institutions or the entire commons would be pretty fun!
livelabs.com/seadragon/
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@Brooklyn_Museum: I was talking to someone on the photosynth team the other day, but didn't bring this up. I will next time I do :) I'm not sure where manual tweaking fits into their short-term plans.
The key for these things - whether it's auto-panorama, or auto-3d, is volume of photos. And there have to be tons of Columbian Exposition photos out there. It will take collaboration between a whole bunch of museums and some private collectors to get enough to make it work automatically. Otherwise we have to wait for the movie adaptation of The Devil in the White City... it's gotta happen, right??
@clickykbd: Photosynths can be browsed or searched within Live Maps. It's a bit buried, but if you go to "Collections" on the right-hand side, and choose "Explore Collections", you can limit the results to Photosynths by choosing the right-hand icon in that left pane that opens.
I hadn't thought of using Seadragon, gotta look at that.
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Hi everyone!
Got a set announcement for you! First off, some explanation. We've been collecting feedback from three locations: the Flickr Commons group thread, the thread in the Brooklyn Museum group and the on this pic. Many thanks for all the feedback - it surprised us and helps us move forward.
Most people wanted to see the Street Scenes and Panoramas, followed by the Museums and Art set, followed almost equally by Turkey and Pompeii sets. Turns out, when we looked - Street Scenes and Panoramas are all street scenes of Turkey, so that set is has been renamed and will be released today.
Next, we carefully looked at Museums and Art and realized there are still a few things we have to talk about internally before we release that material. Goodyear was shooting when he visited other museums and, while it is fascinating, the institutions in the shots probably need a heads up before we release that set - we are working on it, but it may be a while (sorry for the tease).
Since we are releasing Turkey: Street Scenes, we decided to release the related Turkey: Mosques, given that it was also pretty high on your list.
So, with that:
Turkey: Street Scenes
Turkey: Mosques
Many thanks to dopiaza for giving us a tool to batch move all these cloaked images to the top of our feed!
Also, be sure to check out Deirdre's post in the Brooklyn Museum blog - she just posted today about some additional history related to Goodyear.
Thanks,
Shelley
Chief of Technology
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Hi all -
Anna asked me to post this photo of the Brooklyn Museum here to give everyone an idea of what the building looks like:
ps - I've enjoyed reading this thread!
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You have a wonderful photographic collection - here is an article I have written about the Paris Expo on my blog fotofacade.com/?p=876
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Quick note everyone! We just completed the scripting on our side to bring the tags into our collection online - yay!
On our site, we do tagging by attribution (for those that setup Posse accounts), so when we brought over the tags from Flickr we created a posse account for the Flickr Commons - check that out here which enables us to show where the tags originated.
You can see what this looks like on a collection record here - when you click the "22" in parens it will drop down to show which tags were created by Commons as opposed to other Posse members as things get added. This concept of social tagging or tagging by attribution is a little more clearly seen on a record like this one where a bunch of posse members have contributed. Over time, as our onsite Posse tags away at commons images, we will have a nice mix of personal contribution on the records.
For now the Commons account is the top tagger but some of our posse peeps are not far behind!
~shelley
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that's pretty cool, Shelley.
The Commons Posse
: )
Have you ever had to remove any Commons tags for any reason? Maybe because they were inappropriate or misleading?
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@Brooklyn Museum: All your UGC/social networking stuff is amazing. do you have anything which summarises the overall results & benefits since you started this?
I'm very envious of what you have achieved!
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@bigbean - not yet! @whatsthatpicture Thanks, that is very nice. This is the kind of thing I prefer to discuss in presentations. The reality is I have little time for papers and reports anymore and, instead, I either present or post to our blog. We have some philosophical posts up about this - I would take a look at this one which will give you a good idea of why and how. Lessons learned will also be posted to the blog over time so keep an eye on it.
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Shelley- that's reassuring to know
*hatches evil plan to add an inappropriate tag some day* Muah-ha-HA!
And I agree with whatsthatpicture - you rock at the whole web/social networking thing.
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Two quick announcements that may interest this group, so here goes!
#1
Dig Diary 2009
I was asked to post here by Lu_ after she saw us post to our Flickr account. Some of our team are in Egypt right now on a dig and they are posting weekly updates to the Brooklyn Museum Blog. Weekly status updates every Friday for the duration of the Dig. Mary, the dig's photographer is also sending photos along the way.
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Wikipedia Loves Art
This is probably of the most interest to this group - a free content photography contest to help Wikipedia, anyone? Wikipedia Loves Art - a scavenger hunt photography contest being held in museums all across the world during February.
All the guidelines for each institution (and prizes-yay!) are posted to the Flickr group.
If you are interested in shooting, we'd love to see you. You can come at any time during February...or come to the meetups that are getting scheduled for some of the various institutions.
Also note, if you are not into the museum thing, but live in the United States and want to participate...check out the contest from the Film Society of Lincoln Center...old movie houses, anyone?
Many thanks and any questions just let me know!
Shelley
Chief of Technology, Brooklyn Museum
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Shelley, thanks for the pointers. Will subscribe to your blog feed.
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very cool stuff.
And good idea to post these here- I've been reading about these on your blog, and it's really interesting.
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Mary McKercher is interviewed at indicommons today. Thanks, Zyrcster!
Also, we just released 44 Egyptian images to go along with it!
-Shelley
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Yay!
Thanks for setting that interview up, Shelley!
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This year, at an industry conference, we won a few awards for our work on the web. We couldn't be there to accept and sent this video in our stead.
We want to share this with you for a limited time. There's a bit of ...ahem...copyr!ghted material in the vid, so we are borrowing it for just a little while to show you and then it will come down.
Your participation in our efforts both online and at the Museum have made all the difference and these awards belong to you as much as they do us. Many countless thank yous from our team for your ongoing support of the Brooklyn Museum. Before you click over to Vimeo to watch the video, make sure your sound is on and up loud :)
Thank You!, the video
Shelley Bernstein
Chief of Technology
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Loud is definitely good! And thank you back :)
What was really painful on Friday was to see, in the middle of all the award announcements coming out, the news about all the cutbacks you're having. There's a note with links to that and a tip on one way people might want to help here: www.indicommons.org/2009/04/20/a-thank-you-from-and-an-ap...
I love my traditional and not-so-cheap annual family membership at the Art Gallery of Ontario, but it was interesting to read about the 1stfans level of membership. That and the Powerhouse's very directed fundraising with the Blurb book are both neat alternatives to traditional membership/donation financing for those of us in the non-granting community.
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Check it out...book swap at Brooklyn when Paula and Seb make a visit from the Powerhouse!
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Woooo Hoo! Now that is cool!
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that's very cool indeed.
Hi all you three!
Fun to see you all in one place : )
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doesn't happen often...but sometimes on each others turf!
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I love this shot, too:
what fun!
what were you all doing in the bug?
(edited to add: in the front: Deb Wythe and Shelley Bernstein from the Brooklyn Museum and in the back: Seb Chan and Paula Bray visiting from the Powerhouse Museum in Sydney! Cool beans!)
(edited again to correct speling. Sorry Deb!)
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That was a great day...good bug ride too!
Paula
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We were going to lunch in DUMBO! I loved how the Aussies jumped in the back seat so fast...such fun! - Anna, that's Deb Wythe...small typo :)
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Woo hoo!!!!!!!!!!!!
Help us decide what to release on our Commons 2nd Year Anniversary...May 28. What's it gonna be?
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Oooh. France could be interesting.... or North Africa!
I kinda like them all really. :)
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Lots of votes for North African Ruins...and I just can't make you guys wait until May 28 for a set of 7 photos, so we are releasing that right now! Go check 'em out and we'll do a bigger release on May 28, so keep the opinions comin'.
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Awesome!
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Love to see ruins in the Middle East or Southern Europe!
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OK, so in leading up to the big anniversary date (May 28), we released North African Ruins last week:
This week, we are releasing Middle East Ruins, since that seemed to be a big draw:
Tune in May 28th, for one more release!
~shelley
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those are gorgeous.
Looking forward to the 28th!
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Pompeii tomorrow maybe? It's ruins!!
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stephanie, some of them are so jaw dropping awesome...i'm tempted to go early, but gotta wait...gotta wait :) -shelley
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Isn't it Thursday in Brooklyn by now?
It's very nearly Thursday all the way over here on the Westcoast...
I want to open this bottle of Bubbly already!!!
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Pompeii!! Check this out:
Full Set:
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WOW!
::off to check them out::
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Oh, also, we're celebrating your Commonsversary with a few blog posts, and here's the first:
www.indicommons.org/2009/05/28/happy-commonsversary-brook...
Stay tuned for more!
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whoa, with a *few* posts? that's exciting, criz....argh....i'm going to be out all morning at a graduation ceremony and i think i'm going to be glued to my iphone :) no fair!!!! :) -shelley
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mwa hahaha
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My links didn't show up on Indicommons, so here's a followup. They're good pix!
Thanks for the good wishes! I was inspired to go looking for “anniversary” and “birthday” on Flickr and our website and offer this birthday party picture from the Brooklyn Museum collection (Heat, by Florine Stettheimer):
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It’s a little languid for how I feel about this event, so here’s a better one from the Commons:
And just to underscore the wonderful serendipity of the Commons, here’s another one that struck a chord:
The Smithsonian mounted a series of amazing artist portraits from the 50th anniversary celebration of the 1913 Armory show. Robert Henri (pronounced Hen-rye, which always gives me a chuckle) is in our collection.
Happy anniversary, everybody!
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Hey everyone! Thanks for a great day today! ~shelley
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Congrats! Thank you for all of your efforts!
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Hi everyone,
If you like the Paris Expo shots we've uploaded to The Commons, check out this video of Deb presenting on these materials during Common Ground...
www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3WhIjCuh28
Shelley
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Everything about Deb's presentation was excellent!
:-)
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Hi everyone!
Releasing our Italy: Cloisters and Convents set today from the Goodyear collection...just 9 images, but we've got more steadily on the way throughout the end of the year! Lots and lots of churches coming up...
Also note, we are using Suggestify so folks can suggest locations for each image - thanks, Aaron!
Shelley
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Terrific news, Shelley!
:-)
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Starting to slow release images from our Italy: Palazzi, Villas and other Dwellings set.
We're going to do 10 every other day or so...
Shelley
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Excellent going!!!
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Starting to slow release churches from Italy set. Enjoy!
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Starting to slow release cathedrals from Italy set...
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That sounds very good!
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Hi everybody -- Happy Bastille Day from the Brooklyn Museum!
We're starting our release of French cathedrals with some amazing images of Notre Dame, Paris, and Amiens.
Have fun on your virtual vacation!
Deb Wythe
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Thanks for sharing these wonderful photographs!
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Here we go on our final set of Goodyear architectural photographs -- French Churches.
We seem to have a ghost in this one or perhaps someone who is just praying really, really fast.
Deb Wythe
Digital Lab
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Yikes! I thought we had released everything that we had uploaded. Wrong! More fabulous Goodyear photos on the way: St. Peter's in Rome today.
Just love this fountain. Ta da!
Deb Wythe
Digital Lab
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Traveling to Southern Europe this Thanksgiving day for a virtual visit to ancient ruins.
A really special view of the Collosseum in Rome (no tourists!):
How many kinds of columns can you find in this set?
Deb Wythe
Digital Lab
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Geotag Brooklyn!
We just started releasing historic images of Brooklyn for our #mapBK project.
Hope Indicommoners will join in the fun! Here's the mysteries set.
Suggestify is awesome!
Deb Wythe
Digital Lab
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