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If they are photos for "personal use", who is the B&O museum to restrict their use? If you make no profit from the pictures, then posting them to Flickr IS a "personal use".
Posted 41 months ago.
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OMG!!! Are they for real??? It's even on their website here:
www.borail.org/policies.shtml
Since the museum is probably private property, and the items inside are also probably private, I think the museum has the right to protect its property, as the inside of it is not easily seen from a public location.
I guess they figure if we post photos of their exhibits to any public site online, those photos might get "stolen" by others who might publish them in a commercial way. However, if we keep the photos private on flickr, how will they ever know we posted them online?
Honestly, I think they should have a sign that says NO PHOTOGRAPHY and that would help them avoid problems that could arise from their current policy.
Thanks a ton for sharing this photo and the info. I had no idea.
PEACE!
~M
Posted 40 months ago.
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Fallingwater in PA has a similar policy... I emailed them after my visit asking for permission and they granted it the same day, provided I included a statement with each photo "Permission for this non-commercial use of photographs of Fallingwater obtained from Western Pennsylvania Conservancy."
To me it seems like a fair and reasonable way to try to ensure attribution. As Marcellina notes, they could just as easily ban photography altogether on their property.
As for Fallingwater, there are tons of photos on Flickr where photographers have not respected this requirement, and it's true that it's it's virtually unenforceable. But helping a nonprofit by respecting *their* rights, seems like the right thing to do.
Posted 38 months ago.
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On the other hand other railroad museums welcome photo clubs and groups with open arms. The Dolly Sisters Pinup Group recently did a photo shoot at the Shore Line Trolley Museum in East Haven, CT. The cost was equivalent to renting a photo studio for the same time period and they have no issues with respect to club members selling prints.
Posted 37 months ago.
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Then again, I could stand on the sidewalk and get a picture of their building and a lot of their rolling stock without ever going inside the B&O Museum and they claim the rights to that as well.
Theoretically they could try to extend this to me standing on a public street taking a picture of their train as it went by.
Post offices claim the same right to property over inside pics of their WPA Murals and our tax money makes them public property.
Posted 37 months ago.
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it's a totally stupid photography policy.
thomashawk.com/2009/05/courtney-b-wilson-your-photo-polic...
Posted 37 months ago.
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I think it says "commercial use" on the internet - not personal use.
Posted 37 months ago.
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It says "posted on the internet" - it does not differentiate between commercial and non-commercial sites. Besides what is a commercial site? Would a railfan blog that runs a few ads to help pay for its costs be considered commercial?
Posted 37 months ago.
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They received a hell of a lot of state money to restore and maintain the exhibits and facilities after the roof collapse.
So anyone who partially relies on state support is obligated to open themselves up, without condition, to photographers? (Including photographers who cultivate controversy to pimp their blogs... ahem..)
Does that include all nonprofits, which benefit from special tax status?
What about people living in public housing?
welfare beneficiaries?
seriously?
Posted 36 months ago.
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