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Some shows simply don't have a photo/security barricade at the front of the stage, and in those instances I shoot from the crowd with my DSLR rig (a photo pass is still issued).
Often there is still a song limit in place, so I shoot for the first three and then the camera away.
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I do shows from the crowd at smaller venues where there is no barricade. its tough cause of all the crowd movement.
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I shoot from the crowd when there is no pit and at some shows I am allowed to shoot from the crowd after the first three songs.
I use the same DSLR setup in the crowd as I do in the pit.
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There's nothing wrong with shooting from the crowd with a P&S! Does anyone seriously have a problem with the 90 per cent of gig goers who do this?
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nothing wrong with it..it might look a little funny though sometimes...
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I do not have a problem as long as its not in the barricade lol. I think its that most photographers complaints about point and shoots in the crowd is that they do not allow point and shoots in the crowd at some shows but they do not stop them, and the fact that they can use flash and shoot for all songs and we cant.
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I use a P&S anytime I can. People (some people I mean) have issues with this?
I do not use flash, though. Although I've seen plenty of people do so. Well if I'm in the front row I don't use flash. If I were farther back, I might, but it probably wouldn't do any good anyway.
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I occasionally still use my P&S if I'm just attending something and dont have a photo pass. I dont use my flash though because it's fairly pointless.
And I have to say its annoying when other pro's complain that the fans get their point and shoots and can shoot the whole show and use flash and what not. The fans paid their money to be there, they also aren't shooting at a 6fps rate at high ISO's, and most of them aren't selling the images to publications or other places.
Now if the artist is restricting camera's then complain away. But if they aren't, those fans paid good money to be there and they have every right to do it. Because I know even the best photographers on here have gone to a show they paid to be at with their P&S's.
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I still shoot from the crowd sometimes as a number of venues don't have any kind of photopit. Some shows are easier than others, did Melt Banana last week and the majority of the crowd were courteous and let me shoot unhindered despite being jammed between the stage, the crowd and the PA. Sometimes you'll encounter people who give you a hard time, drinks thrown at you, equipment messed with, head grabbed from behind and shook. It all comes with the territory though, in an ideal world every venue would have a secure pit and the lighting rig from our favourite venues but hey, variety is the spice of life. And I've shot from pits in years past with a p&s, I've also shot from the crowd while watching people in the pit shooting with mobile phones. All of this is irrelevant, to me the only thing which matters is not messing with other photographers in the pit, deliberately blocking their shots to get them yourself, pushing them away from their spot or letting off off camera flashes directly in front of their lens, all of which I've encountered and taken appropriate measures against
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@rachelparker
In general, the fans paid their money to go to a concert... not to photograph a concert.
If you want to see a show leave your camera at home. I do this often and feel it benefits my photography when I go to shoot shows.
Most (not all) people who take a P&S to a gig and blast away have no idea what they are doing, they will get shitty photos and most importantly they annoy the hell out of those around them trying to watch the show.
That's my $0.02 worth.
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I don't know, when I saw The Pogues and used my little P&S from front row center I had at least 15 people around me ask me to let them know how to see the pictures. Nobody was annoyed at all. The band didn't seem annoyed and they had to have seen me. But I didn't make a spectacle of myself either. YMMV of course
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Well some of the venues here will tell folks to turn off their flash, and yeah they wont get crap for photos half the time, either way.
But sorry to say, if I'm going to see one of my favorite artist I'm taking my camera because I will end up kicking myself if I dont. I actually got offered the opportunity to shoot one of my favorite artist but I'd had to have missed the rest of the show which i already had tickets to, because of deadlines with the publication.
My point just was that the fans paid to be there, if the artist allows cameras that's their perrogitive. Those of us granted media access didnt pay to be there so complaining because the band or their management restricts what you're allowed to shoot on a professional camera is silly.
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hmmm tough topic.. I do bring a p&s with me to shows.. sometimes it's just to take a photo of someone when I'm doing interviews, or to do silly pics with my friends hanging out after I shoot the band etc.. Other times, yes I have shot from the crowd with my p&s. I went to duran duran as a fan and took some photos from my seat with my p&s.. My p&s has an 18x optical and does a nice job. I have photos for my scrapbook to go along with my ticket.. That's being a fan! Also , sorry to say my fav pic of Seether that I loaded here in flickr was taken after my 3 songs in the barricade with my p&s..
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@rachelparker-
well said.......This is always a tough topic here, and everyone has their side of the fence they sit on. I think it comes down to professions here. From a professional photog's standpoint, they are there to shoot a show, hopefully get paid for their images, etc. It's their job, period. But what is lost in the translation many times is that these are music events, and having interviewed dozens of artists doing what I do.....they are concerned with their music, making their fans happy, etc. That's why they are there. They encourage fans now to take pictures, post them all over the web, help spread the word about their music, pose after shows, etc. They love it. The fans want to take a little piece of an experience (no matter how shitty the pictures are that come out of it) home with them to remember the time they had watching their favorite artists. The artists are there for one reason, the fans for another and the photogs for yet another. For me, it comes down to what is the constant breakdown of everything....people can't just let others live and let live and do what they do. I respect the pro photogs here who do this as their main profession and do it well, and understand they want their space. I also understand the fans and what they go there for. People need to step into others shoes once in awhile and look at things for their perspective.
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around here there quite snobish about photos of the bands.
Getting your big camera in to First Avenue or Roy Wilkens is like pulling teeth and risking your gear getting beat to shit because Gilla the Gorilla bouncer can't access your memory card.
Shooting with a point and shoot can yield great results if you know your camera and know how to shoot.
I've had great results with my Nikon S51 in places where my D80 would have been confiscated.
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just wondering if we are stlll gonna think it's cool when P&S cameras are 12megapixels or higher with great noise reduction and the fans still get to shoot after the 3 songs capturing all of the great moments that only happen in the back half of the show ( like Michael Stipe walking onto the stage to do Karma Police with Radiohead...if anyone wants it i have a really crappy photo of it where you can kind of tell whats happening but it could be any bald guy really)
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I wouldnt worry too much because the SLR's will always progress and be better and faster than any Point and Shoot. I dont ever see them making a sensor for a P&S that is better than that in a DSLR.
Yeah the fans shooting will get to shoot that cool stuff after the first 3 songs, but it's not like they're letting the pro's hang around to shoot it. At least some one is documenting it.
It's silly to let it bother you. If it bugs you that much that you dont get to shoot then, shoot your first three with your SLR, then put your gear up and be the fan with the P&S in the crowd.
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"Because I know even the best photographers on here have gone to a show they paid to be at with their P&S's. "
I don't, nor do I have a point and shoot =P
Though the g9 is tempting or if I can find a good low light ps.
The main reason people with point and shoots are annoying is because they feel entitled to fuck over anyone around them so that they can take a shit flat looking photo of the performer doing jack shit. If they are goign to take the photo, at least do it properly, otherwise let me do my damn job and stop trying to elbow me in the ribs because i arrived 3 hours ago to get the front row for the openers too.
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I understand the whole no barrier thing I have done that many a time properly with my SLR :D
I think the photos came out ok for what they are a record for me. I didnt photograph the whole show I wasnt there to photograph just spectate. After I had done my bit I let a Japanese girl take my place as she couldn't see shit. I think if your respectful of everyone it works out ok.
@ Letsmakeart
fuck you over in what way?
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In the past you never took your P&S to a show? I know even a photographer as great as Carrie went to shows back in the day with her P&S, look at her photo stream. Before I was shooting on my DSLR I was taking my P&S to shows I was attending. Like I said before in the rare event that I'm attending a show now that I cant/wont shoot for my publication. I will take the P&S with me.
Also I dont know that most will agree but, when I would attend General Admission shows with no barricade, I had no problem letting photographers in front of me to shoot because I know they wont be there for long. And most folks if you explain that too them they will let you thru to shoot weither you got there 3 hours before the show or 30 minutes before the show. I also know that some people dont give a crap.
But in the end they paid for their tickets, you got in free and maybe are even getting paid to be there. You deal with what you're handed. Its not all flowers and rainbows sometimes. And most the time you hopefully dont have to deal with too much of the crappy stuff.
And honestly if it's a show that you're asked to shoot the entire thing because the band wants you to, and there's no barricade. You should get there early to get a good spot, or have the band let you in ahead of time. And in those cases most people tend to respect you and not screw you over. And if they dont respect you then you need to stick up for yourself.
But I stand by what I said if the band allows point and shoots you have no right to say their fans shouldn't be allowed to take shots. If it makes them happy to have that crappy photo at the end of the night then fine. I know that when I take my P&S I dont walk away with crappy photos I walk away with good photos, but yeah I know what I'm doing with a camera with Manual mode.
To step outside the box. At a small venue with a popular local band where pro camera's are allowed would you be as hostile about someone there shooting for experience if you were there shooting for the band or a local publication?
This entire argument is stupid.
It's like telling an child drawing flowers on the sidewalk with chalk they cant do that because there is already a sidewalk artist at the park and he's a professional hired by the park and there should be no chalk drawings on the sidewalk other than his because he's professional.
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"In the past you never took your P&S to a show? "
I don't even know who thats directed to but...
Nope not really only if its been something a bit special, Air at the Sydney Opera house, My Bloody Valentine, Sigur Ros tonight etc. Plus I have never been satisfied by the results from my point and shoot the only reason I shot these shows was to have some sort of keepsake/something to show for it apart from my memories and a ticket stub.
Most of the time when I just go to see a band im the one jumping around in the pit enjoying the show that way so thats why I dont usually take a point and shoot if im not shooting that night. Its not that I dont love photography.
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It was just a general statement to whomever. I just know that when I was 16 I was going to shows singing along and taking photos here and there with my film Point and Shoot. Mind you there wernt alot of manual controls on that at all so that was the days of not wanting to but blinding the performer unintentionally on my end. Granted you could still get some descent shots if your composition was good. Nothing of professional grade though.
Then when I was 19 I bought my first digital P&S and it had a manual mode on it that I started using when I was going to shows. Mind you I was going to alot of shows and shooting while rocking out just always seemed right to me. In the case of general admission I would get to the venue early and earn my spot just like everyone else and I've never been one to try and push anyone out of the way, but I am one to not be stepped on or pushed out of the way either. To me that's just how it was done you earned your spot at the show and if you wanted to shoot you shot away if cameras were allowed, preferably on a manual mode of sorts if the camera has it so you dont blind anyone, try and use the view finder so you're not holding the camera up blocking peoples view the whole time.
I just have always brought a camera to shows. It doesn't mean that you aren't enjoying it or aren't watching the show. But I went to a show recently and didnt take any camera and the entire time I watched the lights thinking wow i wish I had a camera with me.
And for the record, 2005 through 2006 I was shooting all my stuff on a P&S the Nikon 8800 if you want to know and while yes its more noisy, there is shutter lag, and it only goes up to 400 ISO it worked great. And all it takes is a little photoshop to clean up the noise and I got a descent portfolio put together from the collection of images from the many shows and other things I had shot and am now shooting for a major Daily Paper and have been for over a year now obviously using a DSLR for that. But you could see how one could be a little offended by someone insulting anyone who may use a P&S while watching a band they like. About the only place I think a P&S doesnt belong is in the photo pit.
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I used P&S for three years on all kinds of concerts. It didn`t bother me, I could go everywhere with it and photograph whoever and how much I wanted.
About the quality of pics... well you can`t make a bilboard out of it actually. But as for the "art" part - it is photographer that counts, not the camera.
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"Because I know even the best photographers on here have gone to a show they paid to be at with their P&S's. "
Not me either. But I tend to be a person that won't compromise on quality, ie. if I can't get quality then I won't do it at all.
I'm totally with letsmakeart's sentiments.
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I snuck in my Zorki (a Soviet rangefinder based on a Leica IIIf) once when the headliner vetoed the openers (co-head's, really) grant of a pass. Nobody seemed to mind, although I respected the headliner's wishes and didn't shoot their set. A few came out O.K., which is more than I expected shooting guess exposures on an unmetered film camera.
I still haven't found a digital P&S I like enough to get, but my backup plan has improved considerably to a Konica Hexar AF. No occasion to sneak it in yet, I have used it a few times on a test basis. It works well, breathtakingly good low-light AF, but I haven't gotten anything I love enough to post.
And I can think of at least one show where a good shooter with some kind of bridge camera (big fixed zoom, still a tiny sensor) blew the doors off a couple of schmucks with DSLRs. She may have lost a bit on technical quality, but she paid attention to actually shooting interesting compositions and moments.
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I thought about bringing my camera into the MBV show on Sunday.. then i didn't and am I ever glad I didn't.
But to each their own, and i get to shoot them in September hopefully
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ShallowDepth [deleted] says:
i always carry my slr and my p&s. if i'm in the crowd and a perfect moment arises after i'm out of the pit...i whip it out! (double entrendre totally intended!) but seriously, even for smaller shows with no pit, i carry both and use both cameras cuz if the lighting is terrible, i won't waste my film and just take a few shots with it and go reckless with the small digital...
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I started out using a P&S for years - it got me where I am today.
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I gues everyone here started with a point & shoot. So what's wrong with that.
And, it's easier to shoot great photos with your 2000+ dollar / euro gear than with a little compact. A good photographer should be able to take good photos with even a point & shoot.
Besides, sometimes you go to a gig as pro photographer and sometimes as fan.
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First let take this whole going to concert with P&S alright next time any of you decide to purchase a ticket please turn it over and read what it say all tickets state that ity is illegal to bring any form of Camera or Video to said show end of subject.
I can tell you this starting next year here in the States any Clear Channel venue will be enacting a new policy which basically will be a strip search before you enter if you have a frigging P&S you will be told to take it back to your car. The only time you will be allowed to bring in a Camera of any type will be when the headliner gives the okay.
meowhouse- your lucky then that The Pouges Security didn't come up to you and tell you to knock it off. I work a few of their US Dates and they had their folks in the pit after the photogo left and were having the house Security folks go up to anyone with P&S telling them to stop or they will be ask to leave.
As for when and if P&S get to 10 or more Megapixil well both Canon and Sony are working on that idea as we speak hell you can get a P&S that has a 8.5 and if your in the front row well you get the point.
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i'm joining this late...
but, back in the day (late '80's), cameras weren't allowed at any of the clubs / venues i attended.
with the ubiquity of digital p&s's, i think that relaxed somewhere along the line. i started shooting in the mid '90's, but always film and never with flash. just prefer it, that's all.
i'm in a band and don't mind if people shoot pic's of us - flash, no flash, digital, film, etc. but, we're just a dumb little (local) band, so, the more exposure (pun), the better..!
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Re what Mitchel126J said re me at The Pogues:
There were dozens and dozens of people taking pictures. I had already talked to several security and event personnel during the support band and during The Pogues and nobody ever asked me to stop, although I heard later that some guard told a guy with a cell phone to stop. Maybe I was lucky as a female but it wasn't just females taking pictures, not there or at many other of their shows where I've seen the pictures taken there. Anyway, Pogues are generally VERY accommodating to their fans and photographers and are among the nicest and certainly most accessible band members I've ever come across and if someone "on staff" is being a dick about pictures, it's most likely not coming from the band themselves; or those people work for the venue, not the band.
Re tickets, my venue (a LiveNation venue) had a large sign saying "no flash photography" inside but not "NO photography," although I think the ticket did say "no photography with pro cameras or cameras with removeable lenses." I'd have to check if it said "NO photography." I don't think so because that's why I brought only my P&S and not my DSLR.
Casio has been making 10+ MP P&S cameras for a few years and I am pretty sure Fuji does and maybe Panasonic. If not others too. I have a 10.1MP Casio that does a pretty good job. It's not my D300 but it'll do. I got some half-decent shots, considering P&S, no flash, and three large Guinnesses in me. Next time I'll skip the Guinness though!
If ClearChannel ever tries to do anything even resembling a strip search, they are going to have the ACLU down their throats so fast they won't know what hit them. Surely that must be an exaggeration! If not, I volunteer to be their test-case plaintiff.
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Meowwhouse,
Question do you work in the music Industry??? I do and I've toured with the Pouge's and I can tell you from first hand knowledge that Shane hate to have his photo taken and Spider isn't real keen on it either. And yes it is come from the band I know their head of Security Ian go back many years and one of the items he was talking about was how to stop photos from the front row, see it seems that Shane doesn't like all of those flash's going off.
All tickets sold in the United States/Canada and Mexico all state on the back No Camera doesn't break down the type end of talk on that subject.
As for the Clear Channel Policy go back read what I said i dais it would be like a strip search basically to explain all your pockets will be empty no pocket books and a heavy pat down before you enter the venue. This already does go on a certain venues thru out the World. Try getting into the Hammersmith hell us band guys who had pass were pat down a few different times.
Beside the ACLU wouldn't take this case because when you decide to go to a concert you are buying a product that has Terms and Coundition spelled out the Judge would throw it out in a heart beat, as a matter of fact their have been a few case already that federal Judges have thrown them out.
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As an aside, P&S cameras are already approaching silly MP counts. The new Sony W300 is nearly 14mp.
I'd really like a 6-8mp camera more in the vein of the Fuji F30 with modest resolution and nice high ISO performance.
The replacement to the Canon G9 is rumored to use larger CMOS chip that may offer better noise performance, too, so hopefully that will come into play.
Todd | ishootshows.com/
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as an aside...
@mitchel25j and @meowhouse...
if venues/promoters/bands make going to shows not fun... then, just don't go to the show! there's hundreds of local bands that play in dive bars that would love to get photographed - without the bullshit and ego and etc. personally, i don't and won't spend a cent that Clear Channel will ever get.
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Mitchel, calm down before you burst an artery. It sounds like you're telling me I don't know what I'm talking about, which would be impossible for you to know since you don't even know who I am.
Taking photos is not the same as taking photos with flash, which you surely know if you're a photographer. I wouldn't like flash going off in front of me either, and if I were Security I would also tell people to stop. But I doubt Shane even notices people taking pictures if they're not using flash. And, I have seen pictures taken by concertgoers from dozens of their shows, so clearly Security is not too diligent or fanatical about telling people to stop.
I don't have my ticket here so I cannot confirm what it says on the back. Perhaps it was on the LiveNation Web site that the type of camera is broken down. I am not the first person to mention in this group the distinction between allowing pro cameras with removeable lenses and allowing any cameras at all, so it's doubtful I just made that up off the top of my head. I saw it somewhere and so have other people.
Emptying your pockets and showing the contents of your bag is absolutely nothing near a strip search, nor is it some new policy in many venues. A pat-down is pushing it but is still not a "strip search." Your hyperbole was unnecessary as well as invalid. Furthermore, "Terms and Conditions" written anywhere, let alone on the backs of tickets, are not a blanket allowance for someone/some venue to do whatever they want if it violates someone's civil rights. Please discuss with an actual attorney if you need clarification on this.
As for whether I work in the music industry or not, it's pretty obvious that one does not need to in order to have correct information, nor that one who DOES will always provide the correct information. So that too is irrelevant.
Joe Lee: yes that is a terrible picture. There are plenty of good ones too, you should take a look.
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why don't we just get back to what was asked to start with? This was started just asking if anyone does shoot with a p&s from the crowd from basically a fan perspective when cameras are allowed by the fans..
I didn't even bring my p&s last night to Goldfinger/Less than Jake even though they were allowed for the show (no flash allowed for the crowd) and yes I would have gotten some cool crowd shots when the singer from Goldfinger dove into the crowd. I happen to have a nice p&s.
Regarding what someone said about things that happen later in a set that you miss out on as a photographer. Depending on the artist and what you know about their show, sometimes it does pay to ask ahead of time about shooting further into a set. Even on the recent Ministry tour my friends asked about shooting later to get certain shots they wanted due to other people coming out on stage. Their request was granted. Back on the Korn tour for their album Issues, I wanted to get the singer when he played the bag pipes up on a platform that arose from the stage. I shot three shows on that two, two of them were complete sets for Korn and Staind. It never hurts to ask.
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The whole reason I got interested in concert/music photography was because I was a fan, in front, with a good low light p/s! It was what really spurred my interest in photography beyond the basic snapshot on vacation...
There are tons of crap photos out there...I myself, loved getting good photos and sharing them with all my fellow fans...who like mentioned upthread, were usually asking me where they could see them later...
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I've shot with my Sony W-1 cam when I couldn't bring my DSLR in or just sometimes I don't feel like lugging it around. A couple my shots, some of the artist has used.
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@Mitchel25J
"all tickets state that ity is illegal to bring any form of Camera or Video to said show end of subject."
It's not illegal, at least not here in Canada. "No cameras or recorders" is a common message on a lot of tickets (but not all), including (in my experience) on those for artists who allow and even welcome "fan photography" with a p&s, but that doesn't make it against the law.
I'm no pro, but I have used my p&s, and gotten a few good shots with it, but strictly from a fan perspective.
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Every show I've ever went to, I've only been able to take a P&S. Sometimes only a disposable digital camera. All things considered, I do pretty well.
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Mitchell on every tour no matter who the artist the venue is informed on the day of the show what the artist camera policy is. And venues tend to enforce which ever policy it is.
It's printed on a sheet of paper they hand out to the security guards and venue staff. Also I believe it is listed on the pass sheet security is given sometimes.
About 2 percent of the time does the venue policy of no cameras over rule the artist policy of cameras allowed. The only venue I can think of that it does is House of Blues and even they dont give a crap anymore, they just tell folks no flash and if you use your flash they tell you to turn it off and if you dont they make you go check it or put it in your car.
And yes tickets often say no camera/audio, and yeah it says it on the back of the ticket. On the back of those tickets it also says if you get hit with flying pucks, or baseballs or things of that sort you cant sue the venue and that you're entering at your own risk. I cant think of the last time I had hockey pucks flying at me at concerts.
The back of the ticket is basically there just to keep the venue and artist in the clear with the legal issues. The tickets all say the same thing on the back. John Mayer allows audio recording, Smashing Pumpkins allowed VIDEO CAMERAS, but I'm sure it said these things were prohibited on the back of the tickets.
Like I said earlier this thread has gotten ridiculous at this point.
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i understand that flash is bothersome and annoying but some people dont know how to turn off their flash.
ive been using a pentax film P&s until i got the g9, and didnt start serious concert photography until last month.
if someone is taking pics with a p&s, flash off, artist permission, and not bothering you - i dont see any reason why they shouldnt be taking pics. i think its arrogant to say no one should be allowed cameras, because some fans want something to remember a show by. and why let good moments go by undocumented? its ridiculous.
i shot 65daysofstatic for the whole set last month when they opened up for The Cure. you could not have looked more UNPROFESSIONAL than I did, a kid with a point and shoot (upon approach - press management asks me if i cant find my dad). the other photogs who had recently done Coachella only had permission for the first three songs. needless to say, they were a bit surprised when they found out i got to stay. but their media was happy enough with the review and pics that they quoted me twice. i think it was a good experience for me, but i feel bad about the whole point and shoot conflict.
i also shot The Cure from the audience (they allow cameras), and if you go on youtube, they have thousands of views on their new songs - courtesy of fan point and shoots. and a few of them look quite professional.
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As well as the generic 'no photo/camera' message on tickets, I have actually had tix that say: 'photos/cameras ok, no video'...very specific...one in particular was for a festival in Sacramento...not all the bands were desirous of this, but had no choice..it was part of the event...I know they weren't because I knew their security guy, or camera nazi as he became known to some of us, and he was not pleased...
That said, I got some awesome pics from that day, of several bands...daylight, front row...it was awesome...
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Here is what the back of my Pogues ticket from 2008-03-19, Orpheum, Boston (a LiveNation venue although no mention of LN is on there; it's a Ticketmaster ticket) says:
"No recording or transmission of any description, account, picture, or reproduction of event permitted." [snip--part about their being able to use your likeness] "Alcohol, drugs, contraband, cameras, recording devices, bundles and containers may [all emphasis mine] be prohibited."
So apparently merely writing an account of how the concert was, say, on a Flickr page, IS prohibited; and that cameras only MIGHT be prohibited. My my we are all hard criminals here then.
It also says "you consent to search upon entry" which of course does not mean "strip search" and I doubt any judge in the country would rule that it does.
Anyway I will be bringing my P&S to any concert I wish and if I can use it great. It's not taking some photographer's job away from him.
Edit: and the LiveNation Web site says re the Orpheum:
"Guests are welcome to bring: Disposable Cameras or Digital Cameras (no removable lenses); subject to artist preference.
"NO Professional Camera's (this includes Sm, Med or Large Detachable Lenses)
NO Video or Audio Recording Devices; subject to artist preference."
Originally posted 48 months ago.
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maryelle st. clare edited this topic 48 months ago.
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the orpheum has relaxed their camera policy. back before i ever shot any live music, i had front row tickets for Wilco in '03. i had my APS Elph w/ me, and security found upon entry (i wasn't trying to hide it) and told me i couldn't bring it in...i told the guy i took the subway; he ended up making me take the battery out.
nowadays, there are tons of P&S at the shows held there.
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Well seems a few fans on the main fan forum and a few people that have pm'd me here like the My Bloody Valentine snaps so there you go as long as other fans are happy. :p
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