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Protagonist is a group administrator Protagonist says:

So this week I’m going to break the code for how I choose my assignments. First is a shot that practices or explores a photographic technique, using our equipment, lenses lights, the camera itself. Second is something dealing mostly with composition or arranging of picture elements to create a strong image. And lastly, something I think about as a stock assignment. I think of a search term, generally having to do with people. That’s it. I hope everyone is pushing themselves to learn about their equipment, getting creative, and making strong impactful images.

Assignment 1. Frozen Time. We’ve played with motion blur, but there is another very powerful way to convey energy, freeze motion in a way that can’t possibly just exist. High shutter speed in plenty of light will give a nice sharp image no matter how fast your subject may be moving. Images will be judged on sharpness. Tag with cwd131

Assignment 2. Mirror/Reflection. A great, though challenging, compositional element is the mirror. Use reflections to complement your subject. Anyone doing a self-portrait in a mirror will be tagged “phoned in.” All other reflections are fair game. Tag with cwd132.

Assignment 3. Dance. A wonderfully visual, high energy activity. I expect this one to be a real challenge because just like dancing itself, it sounds easy but getting a good coherent image will require creativity and forethought. Tag with cwd133.

DEADLINE is Thursday, April 12 at 10:00 PM Mountain time
Originally posted at 9:08PM, 5 April 2007 PDT (permalink)
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eyeofra23  Pro User  says:

hope my silly dumb camera can adapt to these challenges :D
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d.rex is a group administrator d.rex says:

Fun!!!
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d.rex is a group administrator d.rex says:

No camera excuses this week! But these are definitely going to require some effort and creativity.
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Miss Emily goes bananas says:

I am such a nerd. I've been sitting here for the last 15 minutes refreshing so I could see the new assignments before I went to bed.
Posted 63 months ago. (permalink)

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cooleye foto says:

Hmmm.... all good assignments...thanks teachR!
Posted 63 months ago. (permalink)

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FadderUri says:

Don't feel bad, Miss Em.... I've been doing it for half an hour.
Posted 63 months ago. (permalink)

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Rachel.::.K  Pro User  says:

Wowza! Looking forward to working on these.
Posted 63 months ago. (permalink)

alaskanmariner [deleted] says:

Great assignments... I am looking forward to them!
Posted 63 months ago. (permalink)

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evilmightyacorn says:

See you at the skate park Dave! LOL
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arkworld  Pro User  says:

sounds fun. look forward to it!
Posted 63 months ago. (permalink)

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abchick  Pro User  says:

I so appreciate these assignments. I am learning so much about my camera and about what works & what doesn't & benfitting so much from the skills of my classmates!
Posted 63 months ago. (permalink)

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Christy9799 says:

oh, fun stuff... cool!
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KatColorado  Pro User  says:

hehe, I am just like everybody else, I love my Friday mornings, because then I get to see the new assignments. Synchronicity is helping me along, because I am going to a Dance Performance next Thursday, I actually thought about it yesterday morning, that it would be perfect if I could use it for cwd.... but what if I fail taking good pics, that would be my last chance... whatever thanks for pushing me each week!!!
Posted 63 months ago. (permalink)

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Mayr  Pro User  says:

Yay for dance!
And I ditto what abchick said.
Posted 63 months ago. (permalink)

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JKönig  Pro User  says:

holy crap, i am completely in love with this group.
Posted 63 months ago. (permalink)

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*Wiggs*  Pro User  says:

Alright...my brain is already smoking from overload.
This should be fun.
Posted 63 months ago. (permalink)

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Debolula says:

Ideas already floating around for one of them but gonna have to put my mind to some of them! I love this group!
Posted 63 months ago. (permalink)

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dogfaceboy  Pro User  says:

Could you please tell me what "phone in" means? If self-portraits are excluded, that's usually clearer ("No self-portraits!") But now it seems they are in some other category. Phone in?
Posted 63 months ago. (permalink)

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Paps Photo says:

Am I the only one that is scared of this? I feel like I'm out of my depth here! Eek.
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Killian77  Pro User  says:

Paps...I'm with you, I think. I'm already pondering ideas, but feel that maybe I'm in over my head here. Seeing the other photos already posted in previous assignments makes me see what I'm up against. :-)
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ambrosialove says:

Yeah, I was scrolling down to ask what dogfaceboy asked. Anyone doing a self-portrait in a mirror will be tagged “phoned in.” That sentence doesn't make a bit of sense to me.
Posted 63 months ago. (permalink)

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demmarc says:

phoned in : I guess he means too obvious a choice. And I hope to get enough light for my camera to choose a fast shutter speed for the "frozen in time" shot. Else I'll have to fall back on the sports mode...
Posted 63 months ago. (permalink)

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Gwyn Michael  Pro User  says:

Not sure, but it sounds like self portraits for reflections will be accepted, but considered lame, like phoning in to a meeting???
I'd like more clarification on the reflection assignment in general. Does the reflective surface have to be a mirror, or could it be water, or a window, or something? Also what do you mean by
"Use reflections to complement your subject." ?
Does the subject have to be reflected? Sorry, but this one puzzles me.
That aside, I have to ditto abchick as well. I can't believe how much i am getting out of this.Sadly I did not get to complete an acceptable 8 sec shot for last week, but just experimenting, and seeing what everyone else did taught me a lot. This is awesome!!!
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ambrosialove says:

Yeah, I'm gathering that it's a negative term, but does it mean we shouldn't do them at all? Does it mean we can do a self portrait if it's totally kick-ass? Does it mean we shouldn't use a person at all - even if it's not our 'self'?

And no matter what kind of camera you have, you can get enough light to do the freeze frame assignment with the sun.
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Protagonist is a group administrator Protagonist says:

Phoned in: No real creativity or effort. An easy way out. For our group you could consider it the opposite of a Gold Star. I'm leaving it in becasue perhaps someone can do something very creative. Perhaps.

Water is a perfect reflecting surface, any refelcting surface can be used here. Not just mirrors. The reflection can be the subject, but obviously it will be a reflection of something. Your reflection should make it better somehow.
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JeffCamPhoto says:

I feel frozen in time as I reflect on my dance with TACWD&D. Hope I don't phone in.
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ambrosialove says:

I hate to 'correct the teacher', but a photo with no creativity or effort would not be the opposite of a gold star, given that gold stars are simply Dave's favorites from the group and not an indicator of how technically sound or creative a shot is. Just don't want any newbies reading this thread to think they've done poorly simply because they haven't received a gold star.
Posted 63 months ago. (permalink)

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pi c's  Pro User  says:

Okay, sounds pretty good. I'm not sure if my little camera will do a decent job with the "Frozen in Time", but I'll give it a go.

"Phoned in"...well, it does sound kinda lame...I mean, I understand what you're saying on it being the "easy way out"...but then you say that "if it's really creative"...well it'll still get tagged "Phoned in" which isn't very nice Teach ;-P

Dance....hmm, mama don't dance too much...i don't go places where people dance...how is THIS gonna work? I don't have any weddings to go to this week....and that's about as exposed to it as I get.
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revlimit  Pro User  says:

This may be the dumbest question ever, but should the Dance assignment be a photo OF dancing? I am possibly revealing exactly how smart I am not, but I've gotta ask...
Posted 63 months ago. (permalink)

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d.rex is a group administrator d.rex says:

Dear everyone in this group:

YOUR CAMERA CAN STOP ACTION!

I guarantee it. Frankly, I'd probably have an easier time stopping action with my P&S than with my SLR.

No excuses on that one! :-) :-) :-)
Posted 63 months ago. (permalink)

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~*Cherron*~  Pro User  says:

Hmph. I've done some very fun and what I thought were creative SPs with mirrors. I love mirrors. They are one of my faves. Granted, I have done mirror shots that are totally lame, but there are a handful that I'm really proud of. Phoned-in, indeed. ;)
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d.rex is a group administrator d.rex says:

I think all Dave's getting at is that a self-portrait is the easy choice for the mirror assignment. And if you've done them before...all the more reason to try something different, right?
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demmarc says:

I know it can, I was just saying that I hope to have enough light to be able to use the auto mode where I have a little amount of control over a "sports" mode where I can't even chose iso or exposure compensation. I'll be out of that situation in a few weeks...
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Protagonist is a group administrator Protagonist says:

@Cherron, The pics you point out are pretty interesting, and there's really no way for us to know it was a self-portrait. I'm talking about these: www.flickr.com/search/?w=all&q=mirror+portrait&m=...

@revlimiter. I really try to be a open as I can about these stock type assignments. But we should be able to figure it out. Showing a picture of an empty Gym and telling us you went to a dance there would be pretty lame.

Oh, and I agree with Dave, every camera can feeze action. ISO 400, 500th of a second will freeze a subject on a pretty cloudy day. Both of those settings are available on every camera in the group. At least I'm pretty sure...

@pi c, Fortune favors the bold. A good image can't be "phoned in."
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PunkJr  Pro User  says:

- Fortune favors the bold. Truer words were never spoken! =D
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~*Cherron*~  Pro User  says:

Yeah, I was just joking a bit. Too bad this wasn't a couple of weeks ago. I took an interesting photo of a little girl reflected in her dad's antique car mirror. The little tiny round side mirrors. It was fun. This mirror assignment should be interesting. The dance one really has me intrigued.
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Driving in Heels  Pro User  says:

@revlimiter. I really try to be a open as I can about these stock type assignments. But we should be able to figure it out. Showing a picture of an empty Gym and telling us you went to a dance there would be pretty lame.

Rev won't dance. This is going to be really fun! /evil
Posted 63 months ago. (permalink)

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pi c's  Pro User  says:

Okay...silly question...would something like this be considered "stop action"/"frozen in time"? If so, I guess I'll have to try this take a few more times as I did it on Thursay before the assignment was posted;(

Thurs-DAY 236:  Success!
Posted 63 months ago. (permalink)

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photos_martha says:

Am I the only nerd who fantasizes about ways to combine the three assignments into one perfect shot? Many dance studios are lined with mirrors, and freezing the dancer's actions would be a challenge. Not that I can do it, its just how my brain spins..... I won't share my ideas about last weeks grime / water / 8 secs....
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d.rex is a group administrator d.rex says:

Yep. That qualifies (qualifies even more without the random, distracting background though :-).

You're not! See below...

1-18-07

Note that this has been declared against the rules...but fantasizing is still totally acceptable. :-)
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chrismaverick  Pro User  says:

@d.rex: bah... picking on me when I'm on vacation... :-P
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d.rex is a group administrator d.rex says:

@mav - was just trying to give you a free plug! :-)
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dogfaceboy  Pro User  says:

I am a teacher, too. I have taught college English for 17 years. I've never heard of "phone in" as a synonym for lame, but I guess I understand.

When I teach, I tell my students that beginning with a dictionary definition, for example, sucks. If they do that, they'll get no points for creativity. So don't do it, I say. A dictionary definition can only be one thing. It doesn't have the range of options that a reflective self-portrait has.

I can imagine a few reflected self-portraits that would show amazing creativity.

I was the one suggested that people try things other than the face portrait for the "side lighting" assignment. I wouldn't have called any of them a "phone in," even though it was an obvious choice. Some people did amazing side-lit face portraits.

I could see you saying to people that they ought to keep the bar high for themselves and do things that aren't so obvious. But how can you judge a photo before you see it? It's like saying all fruit still-life paintings are going to be lame because so many painters have done them. So I would like to, politely, recommend that you make it a rule in this case, like you've done before.

It's my issue, I guess. I think a suggestion is better than a pre-judgment, but if you don't want self-portraits, well, you know.
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dogfaceboy  Pro User  says:

I would think the opposite of a gold star is a zero--you get that for sucky work or for not handing in the assignment. As long as there is general competency--focus, clarity, etc.—a lame-o subject should earn a C. That's average, as in what most people would think to do.
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Steven O'Connor says:

for reflection cant the subject be an object?
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d.rex is a group administrator d.rex says:

@Steven - I'm not sure I understand. The subject can be ANYTHING. I'm pretty sure that by definition, it will be an object. ;-)
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photos_martha says:

FWIW, I've heard "phoned it in" in relation to an actor who doesn't put any effort into a part - like they just phoned in their lines. If I remember, critics labeleld Marlon Brando's effort in "Superman" as phoned in because he made a few million dollars for a lame performance.

www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3694031 - find "phone"
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adayinthelife  Pro User  says:

Oh heck, I've got some time on my hands this week and I like a challenge. : )
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RainAtDawn  Pro User  says:

Oh jeez, there's no way I'm going to get anything for this week. It's Tuesday already and I only just got net connection to check the assignments
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d.rex is a group administrator d.rex says:

And...what's wrong with Tuesday and Wednesday and Thursday?
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alaskanmariner [deleted] says:

Wow... I love the discussion this week... Protag... as a teacher, you have made my week! I love learning new phrases, and this is my phrase for the week.

I agree that this might have been overstated, but I think that it has been clarified.


For the rest of you, see my favorite "Phoned In" reflection shot here! I liked how the car window's curvature distorts the trees shape and color.

"Phoned In" or "Trees & Me"

Here is a good definition of "phoned in":

www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=phoned+it+in
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Cordey says:

i'm new to the group so this will be my first assignment. YAY!
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ambrosialove says:

Haha - gotta love the urban dictionary!
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Through the Veil [deleted] says:

How about for future assignments...

a category for combination of the three assignments? For extra credit?
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[ circle k ]  Pro User  says:

Do I get extra points for blowing off work to do the dance assignment last Friday? ; P
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d.rex is a group administrator d.rex says:

We could do it in a thread...but I don't want them cluttering up the pool. :)
Yes you do. 17 extra credit points for you.
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[ circle k ]  Pro User  says:

Woohoo!
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pi c's  Pro User  says:

aaaahhh!! it's 740pm EDT and I've not got a clue how to get the dance assignment?!?!?! I may have to make it a lame attempt just to be a cool kid...but at least I'll still be cool ;-P
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ambrosialove says:

It's also Wednesday . . . not Thursday.
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pi c's  Pro User  says:

oh my! see, i'm so off....i DID think it was Thursday...now I can be a cool kid...I'll get a dance shot tomorrow for sure :D Thanks Amber ;-)
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evilmightyacorn says:

meh I had issues all week with phone, email, and I accidentally deleted 2 days of photos.... it's 6pm and there's no way I'll be done in the next 4 hours... so next week!
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