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@jpcody is a group administrator @jpcody  Pro User  says:

Hey guys, I just wanted to get a little bit of feedback that will end up helping out at Church Marketing Sucks. You helped out suggesting some church planters in the past, and no one knows the current subject better than you.

We're looking for your top copyright questions and concerns, and we're going to have some copyright experts answer them, and they will be posted on Church Marketing Sucks. At that point, we can direct people there when discussing copyright, and folks not involved in the Lab can learn a bit more about copyright.

Let's focus the most on questions you have about copyright, but if you feel there is a specific glaring issue we need to address, it will be heard. We won't be able to answer all of your questions, but we'd love to hear some of them.

So, copyright. Let it rip...
Posted at 1:41PM, 29 October 2008 PST ( permalink )

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gregofalltrades says:

Is a parody the only way to use pop-culture references? Does a parody have to be funny?

At what point do you reach the point where you've made it your own?
Posted 13 months ago. ( permalink )

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enadsleinad says:

movies. if you're not going to parody them but are actually using a clip (with appropriate licensing) as an illustration, can you use movie poster art in your series graphic? Creating something separate or inspired by the movie doesn't seem to make sense when you are actually watching part of it.
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The P is UNLEASHED says:

Can people from CML stop stealing my logos? kthnxbai :-P
Posted 13 months ago. ( permalink )

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@jpcody is a group administrator @jpcody  Pro User  says:

@SeanP

I talked to the lawyers, the answer to your question is no.
Posted 13 months ago. ( permalink )

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GreenEyed_Monster says:

can you use someone elses logos and branding on a promotional piece for a church event that's going to use their product, play their game, or watch their show, or watch their team play?
Posted 13 months ago. ( permalink )

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samisthesound  Pro User  says:

If your church pays CCLI for music rights to play in service, can you use the original recorded song in a media piece?

As a designer working for a church, do I own the rights to my designs or does the church? Does this change if I am incorporated and hired as a contractor?

Ditto@GreenEyed_Monster
Posted 13 months ago. ( permalink )

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whook_88 says:

Can I post video or mp3 of our services even when we sing songs that are copywritten? If not, who do we need permission from?
Posted 13 months ago. ( permalink )

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MountainDewJack says:

If permission is needed, what's the best way to get it?
Posted 13 months ago. ( permalink )

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Jennie Rae Morgan says:

What about testimonies and audio/video clips in the middle of a sermon. Do we need written permission from all "non ministers" to post the video/audio online?

Also, what about multi-site rules about licensing on background images, stock photography, banners, and other print and digital media (displayed for 1 church at 1 time, at 2 locations)?
Posted 13 months ago. ( permalink )

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davidbyronhicks says:

What about original arrangements of traditional hymns? Can those be offered as downloads?
Posted 13 months ago. ( permalink )

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samisthesound  Pro User  says:

Is it OK to steal Sean's designs if I'm in a really really tight spot, and he has the perfect solution on his flickr?

What if it will make me look really really cool cuz everyone will believe I'm talented?
Posted 12 months ago. ( permalink )

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@jpcody is a group administrator @jpcody  Pro User  says:

Yes, as an organization, we support everyone stealing Sean's designs. We're actually working on a Church Marketing Sucks redesign using only actual copies of his work from his photo stream. Lawyers who have seen Sean's work also agree that everyone must copy it, and any contractual or full-time church communication worker who does not can be terminated or prosecuted for failure to provide service of the quality assumed in their contract. When you were hired, work of Sean's caliber was expected of you, and if it is not Sean's work, it is not his caliber.
Posted 12 months ago. ( permalink )

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@muntz is a group moderator @muntz  Pro User  says:

Haha! Here's a question that was posed to me from our IT guy:

Is a designer personally liable for complying when the organization demands use of copyrighted material?

He stated it that in the IT world, if someone illegally installs software using one of his access codes (even when it's documented that he didn't approve) he is still personally liable and can be sued. Would that apply to designers who are required to use copyrighted works, even after battling with the pastor about it?
Posted 12 months ago. ( permalink )

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Frank Ramage (Maryland) says:

Can I play tracks from a music CD I just bought at Sam Goody before/after the worship service without a license (e.g., BMI)?
Posted 12 months ago. ( permalink )

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Frank Ramage (Maryland) says:

If I need/have a license to play a copyrighted piece of music (also bought at Sam Goody) to an audience during a worship service, can I play it while a video montage is also being shown without it being considered a "sync"?
Posted 12 months ago. ( permalink )

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Frank Ramage (Maryland) says:

What resources exist for securing licenses for playing of copyrighted music to small groups (<200), syncing to video, or other such uses? Do I literally have to track down the original author in his/her hideaway hut in aboriginal Australia to get his/her sign-off?
Posted 12 months ago. ( permalink )

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Frank Ramage (Maryland) says:

Who owns the copyright to the Bible?
Posted 12 months ago. ( permalink )

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Frank Ramage (Maryland) says:

Okay, I was just kidding about that last one... Really...
Posted 12 months ago. ( permalink )

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Frank Ramage (Maryland) says:

One final one to consider: At what point don't I need a license to play copyrighted music:

1) During a worship service with 100 people.
2) During a community carwash with 50 people.
3) On the church bus on the way to a homeless shelter with 15 people.
4) Before a Sunday School class with 5 people.
5) During a counseling session with 2 people.
6) In the shower. By myself.

The answer, of course, is probably not related to the numbers...
Posted 12 months ago. ( permalink )

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