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It is a problem, indeed! We have an epidemic of it in FlickrCentral. Epidemic!
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Jake, I strongly suggest that you immediately and forthwith amend your post to contain the required "Contains Sarcasm" warning in its title, lest unsuspecting Flickr Central readers be obliged to take your post with undue seriousness.
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GabrielR [deleted] says:
Yup...you missed the sarcasm flag...
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GabrielR edited this topic 48 months ago.
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sarcasm is not allowed on Flickr!
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What? Really no sarcasm? Well that sucks
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what? did i miss something? its just sarcasm... maybe i just havent had any bad experience with it but i dont see anything wrong with it. and banning people because someone else doesnt understand sarcasm makes no sense to me.
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I agree. Someone strongly consider these recommendations immediately!
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is this serious?
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Completely serious. Sarcasm is serious business!
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Shall we have a referendum? Perhaps we could elect someone to represent the "Sarcasm is Ace" side of things and someone to represent "Sarcasm sucks - Ban it!" point of view.
They could start a petition each in a thread and whoever gets the most "Yesses" by a previously agreed date would win.
Let's look forward to a more democratic FlickR....
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Couldn't we just decide the outcome and then rig the vote? I believe that's all the rage these days.
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Oooh, I like it... a slight twist on sarcasm there, MichaelSmith - satire!
BTW this is a non sarcastic post... but wait, now I feel I have been marginalised for having to point that this is non sarcastic... what is this world coming to?
Oooh look, it's gone sarcastic again - now I'm just confused (that is genuine)....
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It seems overly intrusive to have to do this so visibly. Surely it would be better to be able to flag comments by both type and level of sarcasm and let them be filtered by each users 'SarcSearch' settings; or explicitly in the Advanced Seach box. For example, an poster could categorise each comment as comment type:
- Advice
- Rant
- General noodling
and it's sarcasm level as:
- Safe for the sarcasm impaired,
- Moderate sarcasm
- Restricted sarcasm
As a guideline 'Moderate' sarcasm may make those not getting it look like a boob, 'Restricted' sarcasm may embarrass them in front of their mother.
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4) Each day, the admins should start a new thread qarning Flickr Central members about the abundance of sarcastic posts in this group.
<pedantry>Well, I suppose you've given us fair qarning for today, but who is tomorrow's chief qarner?</pedantry>
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Don't knock sarcasm just because people are too stupid to grasp anything beyond a monkey's understanding of english.
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Fluffz of tha Geenz :) [deleted] says:
Lmfao.
I laughed all the way through this thread!
You guys really know how to brighten up a dreary morning...
xx
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Fluffz of tha Geenz :) [deleted] says:
Oh, and there was no sarcasm in that.
xx
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There's another even bigger problem on Flickr-- those that mistake satire for sarcasm. I am working on a petition about that matter as we speak.
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Ouch, you wound me, Jake. HOLD ON... no you don't! See dictionary definition no. 1 below:
sat·ire [sat-ahyuhr]
–noun
1. the use of irony, sarcasm, ridicule, or the like, in exposing, denouncing, or deriding vice, folly, etc.
2. a literary composition, in verse or prose, in which human folly and vice are held up to scorn, derision, or ridicule.
3. a literary genre comprising such compositions.
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Could I make a special plea for more hyperbole and litotes?
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@MichaelSmith - I'd say "yes to hyperbole... absolutely yes, always, many more, please, pretty please, I don't like cherries, but if I did pretty please with a cherry on top!", although it's not my thread so I'll leave that to jakeome.
As for litotes, well what can I say but one can never have them often enough.
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nathan.horner edited this topic 48 months ago.
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Very good idea.
Like in real life. I always tell people when something I am going to say is sarcastic. They like it a lot, so it would also be highly accepted in Flickr discussion threads.
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What a fascinating post.
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Metasarcasm - better than sex
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I bet Al Gore never thought about this problem when he let the interwebs cat outta the bag. He should have qarned us! I'm cereal.
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**WARNING: POSTS CONTAIN SARCASTIC CONTENT**
[sarcasm] Great thread! [sarcasm]
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Rodrigo Perez edited this topic 48 months ago.
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[sarcasm]
First it was videos on Flickr, now it's sarcasm. The slippery slope that was feared is now here.
[/sarcasm]
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Sam Mayors [deleted] says:
um, what about self deprecatory humor?
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Maybe we could end every sarcastic sentence with the word 'not'. Not.
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AlexanderC edited this topic 48 months ago.
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Um, someone said they, like, liked one of my pictures, ya know, but they were real sarcastic about it. So I went and looked at their groups and all of them contain, like, tons of sarcasm. I blocked the sicko and told Flickr he needs to be banned from all of Flickr too.
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I recommend a course of Leaches...
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Sam Mayors [deleted] says:
Hi Corydalus,
I've only just looked at your pictures, which comment contains the sarcasm? It would be really helpful to see an example.
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Sam Mayors edited this topic 48 months ago.
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The Ewan -- you missed a level of sarcasm..... English!
And baloo2, we're not in the darkk ages you know. Just pop them under the tongue and let them dissolve...
;)
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Isn't sarcasm already banned by the Flickr TOS? I've heard of people whose accounts were terminated for being sarcastic.
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Oh no, I've contributed to this thread. What a personal disaster.
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-RobW- edited this topic 48 months ago.
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I think it is very professional to be professional as a photographer in the real world, but here? Who cares.
If I notice that a group is uptight then I usually bug them about it.
Flickr is like youtube, but it's pictures instead of video(even though flickr does have video now).
But this isnt some photography guild, it is a place for my grandma to post her point and shoots to show family.
So stop acting so serious, $&%#!
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I think you may have missed the sarcasm, Glass maps. Or else I did ;-)
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This discussion works on so many levels. The subtle nuances of the English language have been used to their full effect; It's great to see so many deep thinkers have found their way to this shaded corner of cyberspace.
Noam Chomsky would be proud.
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Haha, I did. Probably because I have not seen sarcasm here since now.
Someone should make a group that has freedom of speech, kind of like the country we live in.
Posted 48 months ago.
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Nightmare!
;-)
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This is actually the best post i think i have seen on flickr so far.
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[sarcasm]...Yes...It's Brilliant...[sarcasm]
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I believe a punishment would be in order for those who sarcasm drips like molasses on unhearing ears. Those of you who wish to be
should have all Flickr priviledges revoked immediately and forthwith, so the rest of us can enjoy the daily drudgery of life. Thank you, my name is krstl_blu and I approve this message.
Posted 48 months ago.
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Let's get this puppy to go viral. If we all team up, we may be able to end sarcasm on the internet once & for all!
Posted 48 months ago.
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I'm with you Jakerome.
Posted 48 months ago.
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Jakerome for Mayor !
Jakerome for Mayor !
Senator Rome!
King Rome!
All hail, signmaker sign-mayor the smrt Jakerome!
Posted 48 months ago.
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I'm glad to see that one of my heart-felt causes is catching fire for a change. Usually it's so hard to attract a following when you are being completely earnest.
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It's hard to be completely earnest because you worry about you and your post being banned from the group.
Posted 48 months ago.
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Heaven forfend that anyone would ever be banned from FlickrCentral.
Posted 48 months ago.
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Wow. What a thoroughly interesting and informative discussion. I'm so sorry I missed this ... really. My life is now complete.
Health Warning: May contain traces of sarcasm
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So cynicism is still allowed?
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Sarcasm bad. Cynicism and irony good.
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Maybe an idea just to ban humour in general?
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I suppose you think that's funny.
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No, I'm very serious. Else I would have tagged the reply with a cynicism disclaimer..
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Stijn van W edited this topic 47 months ago.
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fernando barão (OFF) [deleted] says:
I think you don't have nothing to do. I quit, bye!
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I'm vexed.
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Jake I think you upset goneforawander. Well, i guess there is always one.
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The website Photo.net is a little on the spammy side but has an ample supply of sarcasm and sarcastic administrators (for real) if anyone is running short over here.
photo.net/community/
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@goneforawander: I agree.
Satire (like the OP) and irony are funny, but sarcasm is just plain rude.
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Mr. Goodbar edited this topic 47 months ago.
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@Mr. Goodbar
"sarcasm is just plain rude."
Oh no, dont pick on poor Goodbar or he will cry.
Are you people really that sensitive? It is the internet, you cant take anything seriously.
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@Glass maps: I wasn't upset, it was irony. Humour.
Person 1: "We should ban humour"
Person 2: "I suppose you think that's funny"
I know irony is not big in the States but it's a national pastime across the pond.
Sarcasm bad. Cynicism and irony good - it's a play on words from Animal Farm ... Jesus humour loses it's value when you have to explain it to people.
Sarcasm isn't rude if the recipient also finds it funny and returns the sarcasm. It's a whole way of life.
Look up banter in the dictionary if this seems like a strange idea.
When you figure that out, come to New Zealand where straight out in your face insults are considered both an art form and a term of endearment.
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Haha, I'm sorry gonefarawander, i didnt know you were joking as well. That was a good one ;)
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Hi, I'm an admin for a group called "Is this sarcasm or satire? Please leave an ironic comment that contains hyperbole and litotes on three pics in the pool." and we'd love to have this discussion added to the group.
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I am PERSONALLY offended by each and every post regarding this topic!
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Reginald Watkins edited this topic 47 months ago.
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This is the most frightening thread since we were informed that the print screen key could be used to steal our photos!
Posted 47 months ago.
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Whew! Is it me or is it sarcastic in here?
Rhett
Posted 47 months ago.
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Seems to be quite serious.
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I've noticed that many of the most freqent posters are not following the convention. It is of absolutely vital that everyone tags their sarcastic posts correctly, lest the humorless members of the group all decide to leave in protest.
Thank you.
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Given that they are the ones who most need the warning - and education, perhaps - that would be ironic, not to be sarcastic about it of course...
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I am all for the petition. Whom do we send it to? Obama is too busy cleaning the mess, I am thinking Osama instead.
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I'm just going to assume everyone is sarcastic unless proven otherwise.
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I thought sarcasm was the highest form of wit?
I must have been mistaken.
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**WARNING: POST CONTAINS SARCASTIC CONTENT**
jakerome: good poster, or the best poster?
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jeffnbrooke edited this topic 39 months ago.
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It's about time!
www.techdirt.com/articles/20100115/1200127774.shtml
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darn. i was so hoping this was going to be another 'copyright isn't theft' thread. {sarcasm}
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~carie~ edited this topic 29 months ago.
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Isn't :-/ supposed to emote sarcasm?
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This whole thread is so very brilliant.
/s
Posted 29 months ago.
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( battery not included when given out )
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Jennifer Renee edited this topic 29 months ago.
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**cat** [deleted] says:
I clicked on this thread thinking it was about the most serious problem in the world, one that consumes me night and day:
copyright theft!
Folks, multinationals and governments around the world are stealing our photos! Right now! So let's not waste time on frivolous topics, please.
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What's "qarning"?
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This thread got bumped.
Posted 29 months ago.
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What about cynicism, irony, and existential ambivelence?
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The sarcasm wars are a ¡very serious¡ affair.
opensarcasm.org/
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Lookie here. There's gonna be WAR!
And just to mess things up for them, some of us have been using:
∂
for sarcasm for awhile now. We haven't figured out how to get it on a PC though.
Posted 28 months ago.
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