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I'm on Photrade. You should def. join.
If I had to sum it up in 3 words, it's like: Flickr meets Smugmug
I blogged about it here (for more than 3 words): www.timsdd.com/?p=7
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Looks interesting...
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I have joined, not looked into all the features yet. But it seems nice.
Never heard of smugmug though......
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I'm in Photrade too. I did sell a photo, so I guess it has it's good points, but it's too impersonal for me. No messages or activity to be found anywhere. I found the site very hard to figure out, and managed to get only eight photos up. Out of those eight, only the first three were ever viewed and I sold one of those three. I'm ready to pack up and leave except that I can't find my way out. I've looked high and low for the 'delete account' button, but there isn't one.
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@ *eSThER*, SmugMug is like having your own website but without having to do all of the work (design). Best part is, if you already own a domain name for your business you can use that....but then again if you set your domain fwding up right....well I'm rambling...
Smugmug just got a new feature too, video hosting! It BEATS the HECK out of Youtube in terms of quality. Smug uses the H.264 codec whereas YouTube uses a much inferior transcoding codec...ever noticed how 7/10 YT videos look like crap? There's a perfect explanation for that...and it's not the person uploading the video!! Dang, rambling again.
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@ BACKYard,
And how many photos have you sold on Flickr? ;-)
I know what you mean, as far as the community aspect, it still has a ways to go, it cannot match Flickr in that regard (yet?) but it's still in Beta you realize.
And Sure the nav can be a pain sometimes but they are still developing the site and what's more important they want us to tell them how to make it better.
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Yuppola!!! Solved all my Photrade problems. I removed all eight pictures, all profile information (except the buddy icon, it won't let me remove or change that) logged out, and I'm not coming back. I even removed the bookmark from my favorites list.
It's ~gone~...
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wow, are you sure that is going to be enough? maybe you should delete the cookie in your browser's cache and for good measure format your hard drive! do the low level format option, we don't want any of that nasty stuff coming back to haunt you :)
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The cookie(s) will be gone when I sign off for the night.
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I find Photrade to be great for a beta. I can't wait until it goes public! BTW one of my pictures is featured in the front page. Check it out...
[Edited for blatant self-pimping to a commercial venture.]
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Photrade is a great idea. Not only can you sell your work, but the company says that in the near future users will get paid for page views.
While I like Flickr as a community, and the clean unadvertised look of the pages, we (the photographers) are generating revenue for Yahoo through our work. Sure comments and faves are great, but a bit of revenue sharing would be nice too. After all, we are paying customers AND we provide the creative content. This is the idea behind Photrade, not to mention the ability to sell photos (I've sold two at a price that I set), license work, and watermark, if the user so wishes.
Not that money is the only factor, but here is something to consider: I've been a paying member of Flickr for three years. In that time, I have generated some 250,000 page views. If I was paid just one cent for each of those views, I would now banked some $2,500 USD.
Yeah... Photrade is a bit impersonal for the moment, but so was Flickr in the beginning. Remember that it is still beta and they are working around the clock to add features.... like groups and statistics and more.
By the way... I don't work for them.... I just like the idea.
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WAXY. edited this topic 2 months ago.
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Waxy, nice post & good points throughout.
I don't think it is the be all end all, but it has the potential to be ;-)
I've had a few featured as well, this one making the splash page (the others before the SP existed)
[Edited for blatant self-pimping to a commercial venture.]
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I love the idea of Photrade. I have requested an invite so we'll see... Meanwhile, wouldn't it be great if Flickr took a few ideas and maybe gave us a few more options? I'd just like the ability to sell my photos... Well, I'd also like a few other things like customizable site and the ability to generate income from ads and such... but I may be dreaming here. :)
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Wow, this is the first I'm hearing of Photrade. Really sounds interesting, but one simple question... Why in the world is it taking so long for someone see the niche? Curious...
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I heard about Photrade in The Biggest Group another group here on Flickr, but I haven't checked it out, yet.
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Every new member is given three invites, which I threw on the floor when I left, along with the three cents I made from the one photo I sold.
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You have to be careful with the pricing (at least very early on with the site you did) some of the default settings weren't very high from the actual cost. It looks like BYWE got bit in the ascii on that one photo he sold.
You can adjust the pricing though as I had to do. You can apply a % or adjust each $ by hand.
I sold a 16x20 and it only netted me like $5
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@Purplewon: and in that other group you're talking about, I gave away 3 invites...but well, I guess everybody can sign up for themselves as well and get 3 invites to give away.
@timsdigaldarkroom.com: good thing you're sayiing about the pricing!
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Yes Photrade Rocks. I'm the featured photographer right now! Read about me here:
blog.photrade.com/
Hey my first flickrcentral plug lol
They are really great about listening to your ideas. One of mine is already in the works. Give them time, its still BETA
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Create|Capture|Cherish {Jennifer Adkins} edited this topic 2 months ago.
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I got my invite!!! I immediately signed up although I've only uploaded a few photos. I've got a million things to do today but I'm very excited about getting the invite.
There is a short instructional video (I NEVER watch those and am SO glad I did this time) that explains the site very well and it emphasizes the importance of setting your prices and even draws attention to digital photo pricing.
There are a few features I hope they add as time progresses but so far it seems to be well thought out. I like the features they are currently working on (social features) and can't wait to see what they offer in the future.
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Hi Guys
First, thanks so much for checking out Photrade. We are really excited about the support and are taking all of your feedback very seriously. So, if you have a problem or would like different/new functionality please let us know. Based on previous feedback we have changed our terms of service (4 hour turnaround with our lawyers) and added reading of EXIF data (2 days after the request).
Per the discussion above, Photrade allows users to sell photos at any price, but it is important to manage your prices carefully! Per the comments on the default being low, we had worked with some pricing info to arrive at these, however based on the discussion here it sounds like something we should look at.
@wykyd - thanks for the props on the video - let me know if you have any thoughts on how to make it better (I remake it every few weeks as we launch new features).
We are working on improving the social aspects of the site, so stay tuned.
Again, if you have ANY questions, comments, thoughts or feedback please let us know! You can Fmail me or krista at photrade dot com.
Thanks :)
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Hey could you guys add an option so we can batch tag stuff? Like tag an entire gallery. Or so we can drag photos as a batch into the editor. Also the long strip view for all the photos is very annoying. The entire site is really annoying at this point to be honest. Simple things are taking far too much time. The whole websites very clunky. I guess everything can be improved eh.
My ID is, www.photrade.com/hani
you guys should make the fact that we're getting a URL clear too. It'd be great if you had a fixed URL system like flickr's as well.
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Anyone have a spare invite?
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A lot of people should have them, since you get 3 free.
The current version shouldn't be used by people with high blood pressures though. Most frustrating design ever.
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I am really interested in this site but how would i get invited to join!?
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Hmmm. Any techies around that can explain why Photrade tried to set a cookie when I viewed this topic?
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I wouldn't mind trying this site out myself, it's an interesting idea. If someone has a spare invite I'd be grateful.
Thanks.
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Well, if you go to the group Purplewon was talking about, there might still be some people with an invite to give away.
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It seems like people still have some to give away here.
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While I like Flickr as a community, and the clean unadvertised look of the pages, we (the photographers) are generating revenue for Yahoo through our work. Sure comments and faves are great, but a bit of revenue sharing would be nice too. After all, we are paying customers AND we provide the creative content. This is the idea behind Photrade, not to mention the ability to sell photos (I've sold two at a price that I set), license work, and watermark, if the user so wishes.
Revenue sharing? For what? Using their service? That is like asking the bus company to give you a piece of the pie for using the bus. Sure, your presence might attract some people to use the bus more often just to see you, but I find it highly unlikely that you will be able to share the revenue with the bus company.
I derive more benefit from Flickr than Flickr does from me. That is why I actually pay for a subscription. To imply that Yahoo! is unfairly benefiting from its Flickr users is dishonest. I mean, it is a voluntary association. No one told you to display your photography in Flickr.
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I agree with Jayel.
It's nice to earn some money from your pictures, but I don't think Flickr is the one that needs to pay you.
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"Not only can you sell your work, but the company says that in the near future users will get paid for page views."
and so the deluge of spam began.
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"Any techies around that can explain why Photrade tried to set a cookie when I viewed this topic?"
i think there may have been a photrade hosted photo in this thread at that time, and possibly jayel then edited it out.
or i could be wrong.
anyway, the hotlinked photo probably left the cookie.
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Jayel. It's not simply a matter of using the bus, but rather encouraging ridership. If I encourage 10 of my friends to use the bus, maybe the bus company would give me a kick back in exchange for the revenue that I brought them.
Consider this example....
I am part of a food cooperative. When I bring in new customers, I earn a discount off my groceries. The co-op does me a favor when I generate additional business for them. In the end, each party wins.
"...but I find it highly unlikely that you will be able to share the revenue with the bus company."
Well, that's an opinion. I guess we will only know the answer if Photrade commits to this idea. But why do you find this so unlikely? Because the statue quo does not offer this?
Also, as I stated, I enjoy Flickr. I've been a paying customer for more than three years and I even have multiple accounts. However, one must admit that Photrade's idea is novel... and maybe even an improvement on an already good idea. It's just innovation and I'm not going to turn my back simply because it is unfamiliar. I will also admit that Flickr is a bargain at less than 7 cents a day but I still think revenue sharing is realistic, and fair.
striatic. Flickr is free of spam? Maybe I don't understand your point.
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WAXY. edited this topic 2 months ago.
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flickr isn't free from spam, but it is hardly a deluge.
when money is involved, people will flaunt their photos even more brazenly than they already do.
heck, even if you know that posting a photo link to a group like flickr central will be removed in a few minutes, it's still clearly worth posting just for the shot at a couple of views before the photo is axed, possibly more.
and it'll be much more difficult to tell which links are commercial spam and which aren't.
further, photrade staff has very little incentive to curtail such behaviour .. it's all traffic and attention for them.
paying per page view is a pretty ridiculous idea. it encourages the worst kinds of social interactions.
the comment by photrade staff here is also pretty clueless, akin to "oh yeah and don't worry we'll tack on a community too!" .. community is *core*, not something you tack on. everything photrade has built so far endeavours to trade community for marketplace.
i'll leave it to you to figure out what encouraging spam does to that equation.
at any rate, the comparison seems less with flickr, and more with istockphoto.
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striatic (a group admin) edited this topic 2 months ago.
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An active community can not be created or forced. It's something that just happens. Look at the groups on Flickr. Some of them are hopping with stimulating discussions, while others just lay there...dead. I've tried starting up discussions in some of those 'dead' groups. Nobody noticed. Nobody cared.
Photrade is private. You can't sample it without joining it. Once you're in, you meet up with all the bad news...and...you can't get out of it. Reminds me of the movie called "Dead End Drive-In" (LOL)
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Like Krista said notify them of problems, you don't bail on something just b/c you hit a hiccup!
How do you Flickr users feel about people using your images for their web sites, blogs, or whatever without your knowledge, consent, or credit?
I consider Photrade a way to at least give credit where credit is due.
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striatic. You make valid points. Nevertheless, I think it is an interesting idea.... and it will be an even more interesting experiment.
"..everything photrade has built so far endeavours to trade community for marketplace."
I don't think the above is a fair statement. I've been a member of Photrade for a month or more and while it does have a commercial aspect, I do have contacts, comments and there are groups on the way. Most of all, I do feel it is a community, not only from things my contacts have said, but how the staff has treated me.
Again, while I think Flickr is great, a number of people have complaints. To bash the new guy (i.e., Photrade) is a bit premature. Who knows... maybe Photrade won't generate the same community but I'm willing to give it a chance to see how it evolves. Anyway... I'm not sure if Photrade will indeed have revenue sharing. I believe I read this though maybe I am mistaken or maybe things have changed. Maybe Photrade would care to comment.
BACKYard. I agree. But remember that Photrade is still beta. Flickr was also beta for quite sometime and didn't have nearly the functionality or membership that it does today.
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WAXY. edited this topic 2 months ago.
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"Flickr was also beta for quite sometime and didn't have nearly the functionality or membership that it does today."
but it always had the community. that's the point.
as for bashing photrade, my first impression when visiting photrade is a lot of photos plastered with some of the ugliest watermarks i've ever seen.
many of the photos are plastered with "© photrade" which is incredibly inaccurate, since photrade shouldn't be holding the copyright over its users' images, and yet is claiming it.
ugly, inaccurate watermarks on a site that wants to pursue a page view payment system that will naturally lead to people spam marketing their own photos. which would be one thing if they aspired to be a marketplace like istockphoto, but is quite another when you aspire to be a community.
part of why flickr works is that it embraces people with absolutely no desire to sell or be sold photos. what kind of community is left when you exclude all those people?
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striatic wrote what kind of community is left when you exclude all those people? One like redbubble? :)
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Brenda Anderson (a group admin) edited this topic 2 months ago.
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@brenda
yeah, but you don't see any watermarks on that site and what you're buying is a product derived from the image, not the image itself.
i mean, you can buy prints from flickr too. i think there's a difference between selling products derived from an image, and selling the very right to view the unblemished image in the first place.
i think it's easier to build a community around ..
"here, enjoy this completely unblemished thing of beauty on the web .. and if you really like it you can buy a physical incarnation of it"
than it is to build a community around ..
"sorry, but until you pay up, enjoy the watermark".
one is an antagonistic, protectionist and negative attitude. the other is positive and productive.
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striatic (a group admin) edited this topic 2 months ago.
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I see your point. The watermarking on photrade is optional FWIW, but it seems most people take it up.
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WM's FTW!!
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...many of the photos are plastered with "© photrade" which is incredibly inaccurate, since Photrade shouldn't be holding the copyright over its users' images, and yet is claiming it."
Like Brenda said, this is an option... and users can create their own watermarks or use none at all, like me, or suggest to Photrade that the default should be the username. Many people have not yet invested to time to customize simply because they want to get a flavour of a new place before investing lots of time.
Anyway, I think there are currently too new and too few users to make any sort of judgment about how it will look or operate. As I said above, as small at Photrade is, I do feel a community forming. But only time will tell....
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WAXY. edited this topic 2 months ago.
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Like Brenda said, this is an option
Option to give Photrade the copyright of the image? Or to display an erroneous watermark that implies ownership?
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if flickr was to provide the option to add "© flickr.com" watermarks, people would be screaming bloody murder.
this is the first impression of the site. ugly watermark providing misinformation at best, and at worst the service claiming copyright where they should not be.
"only time will tell" is one thing, but what photrade is telling me now is that they have a pretty messed up idea of beautiful presentation and a very skewed notion of what © means.
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striatic (a group admin) edited this topic 2 months ago.
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Hey guys,
Andrew (CEO of Photrade.com) here. We're building Photrade to empower photographers online and in that vein, I'd like to try to answer some of the comments/questions posted here....
We offer custom watermarking to help photographers protect and get credit for their photos. You can create any watermark you want (mine says "(c) Andrew Paradies") or disable the feature and have no watermark; watermarking is entirely optional and customizable. Looking at it now, I agree that the standard/default watermark is confusing.
Suffice to say, we are making a new one this very moment that will be up in the next couple of days. Per our terms of service, Photrade does not own the copyright to user images, and we'll fix the standard watermark to help make that clear. So thanks for the help there :)
@Dude crush - We have a batch tagging option on the left in the photo manage page. We'll work to get the rest of the kinks out.
@striatic - I talked to so many great photographers who were sick and tired of having their photos misused without attribution without permission.
We understand that community is important and don't think of it as an afterthought. As a startup we had to make choices about what to get up and running on the site first given that we're a small company with a small budget (neither Flickr nor Photobucket had groups when they launched). We are constantly launching new features, including many innovative social features. We're still in a private BETA but by the time we open up the BETA to the public, I hope you'll find that we're a very social site.
Thanks for sharing your concern over photo spam - I think that this is a good point and we will definitely be actively working to stop spam as the site evolves. Right now it's not a problem, but definitely something to keep an eye on.
@BackYard Wood Explorer
I'm sorry you don't like our service. I'd love to talk to you more about what you do/don't like and try to make it better. I realize there isn't a delete feature, but I checked on it and understand that someone is working to help you delete your account.
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"I talked to so many great photographers who were sick and tired of having their photos misused without attribution without permission."
and they couldn't watermark their own photos before upload if they were so sick and tired?
"neither Flickr nor Photobucket had groups when they launched"
totally untrue. flickr had groups when it launched. do some research.
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Well, I'm open to see how Photrade will develop. Maybe it's good, maybe it's not. And I feel the owners listen to their new customers, which is why it's a Beta. To see how things can be improved.
And what's wrong with some competition ;-).
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I really look forward to Photrade as it matures. I love Flickr but I really like Photrade. One thing I love about Photrade is that you send an email to the CEO and you get a response back quickly and it is not just some automated response. You can add me as your contact if you would like www.photrade.com/vgonz12 . I hope everyone will be photrading soon.
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I think someone's hat is on too tight
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is there anyone with an invite that they can give away? lol, flickrmail me if you can
thanks :)
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We have a batch tagging option on the left in the photo manage page
But there is no way to batch tag a gallery. Besides, even if you did want to batch tag something now you'd have to drag one photo at at time using the horrible broken scroll bar thing that takes ages to load. So even if you do have technically have batch tagging, it's pretty useless and time consuming. And the manage thing is constantly broken and the tagging stuff etc only works sometimes.
This websites a testament to how great flickr works haha.
You may say "well flickr sucked when it came out", but think about when flickr came out and if you had something better to compare it to then.
Even the images look extremely soft in the small view; and this is a photo trading website! I think this website needs a lot more before it comes out. To be honest I think even the beta has been released too early.
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Dude Crush edited this topic 2 months ago.
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@aparis: look up into one of my posts, I have put a link to a discussion where people are giving away their invites.
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I posted in that thread and the reply was 'you can just go sign up on the site' but all you can do that I have found is sign up to get an invite whenever they decide to send more out.
I filled out the survey they offer, hypotheticals with answers like "I'd definately switch" "I would never" etc, but those sorts of questions can't be answered in definites I feel.
We'll see.
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I would recommend keeping a eye on TBG thread as you might find somebody online who you can send your email to (only way to get a invite).
EDIT: TBG thread was closed and re-directed to the Photrade group..
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It might be interesting to see flickr's next major move, if they eventually chose to make one.
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It will be interesting to see Yahoo's next major move...
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@Paul: good idea and someone made a good group as well....
@ssqwilson: sorry bout that, but there are bound to be people posting with invites...if not, they are gone, but there were many flying around.
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I got an invite from the site ... took about 3 days.
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...aye, touche waxy... Actually, that's a good point, one I've already posed to the Photrade people. I doubt their long term goals are set yet, but when asked what my initial interests were, one response was a goal for the future.
In other words, are they looking to sell/will they be "absorbed" like flickr. We'll see...
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Photrade seems to be moving as a beta site very slow. For a beta site that is not always a bad thing. I'm hoping to see site improvements soon, but I know better then to think it will happen overnight. When Flickr first started out they were new and a beta site. I did start a group for those of Us who want to follow this site, easy to find,.
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@ Pacdog, it was even slower before they got funding! The site hadn't changed much if any for like 6 months after I first joined 11/07. I think it's slowly picking up steam in that respect. What I like though is that they listen to all the input they get on how to make the site better.
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I filled out the survey. I told them I that there's no way I'd switch from Flickr, and I didn't find Contests! and watermarking to be strong selling points.
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That's not to say I wouldn't use the service. But if I used it, it would have a very limited purpose.
The idea of getting paid for each page view is fine, but I can guarantee it won't be nearly the penny/page that Waxy postulates, and I doubt it would be 1/10 that. Maybe 1 penny for every 100 page views. So $100 for a million views? Eh, maybe $0.001/page. That's $100 for every 100,000 page views.
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@ Jakerome....why switch?? Why not use both! You can get your warm fuzzy atmosphere here @ Flickr while photrade continues to develop and grow. You can use Photrade to protect and monetize your work.
As a photographer I want to maximize my exposure so I'm all over the place! Which can also be a bad thing I suppose but at least I'm in the mix.
I think Pho is a good alternative to F but not the be all end all (yet).
I made this: 07/01/08 Ad distribution $16.75
BUT I do not know what time it covered nor how many views it entailed.
Why are you speculating the $ per views if you do not know???
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I would use them both if PhoTrade is good. But the whole survey (and, quite frankly, the whole service) seemed geared to getting people to switch wholesale from Flickr to Photrade. Frankly, it's overreaching and WAYYYYYY too cute. Invent the verbs AFTER you have a popular service guys!
Here's what would get me to use it:
A feature that would auto-sync one or more of my sets from Flickr to Photrade, so that I could manage the Photrade account right from Flickr essentially. I'm not going to move over there. If tags, descriptions & photos can be imported, then it becomes the best service that works WITH Flickr to sell prints & license photos. I tried Red Bubble, but I just don't have any desire to go to another site every day or every week to check the status.
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Why speculate on the price? Because someone else already did, with what I felt was a way overoptimistic estimate of payback. Top sites like Facebook or MySpace might have 1 billion page views/ day (My Space had 80 billion one month, but let's round WAY down). At $.01 each, that would be $10 million/day or $3.65 billion/year in revenue. Actual revenue is estimated at $800 million for MySpace this year. Even if MySpace pays back EVERY PENNY in revenue to it's users that's only 0.1 cents/page.
Actual, that's not even speculation anymore. That's a conservative estimate based on actual numbers. It's possible that ads would be more valuable on Photrade, but my guess is the revenue/page is much close to MySpace than it is to Google, since Photrade is a destination website.
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It certainly has some potential. There are still many things they'll need to work out. The batch editor can be madening for the less-than-patient. Seems that breaking some unwritten rules regarding what certain fields want borks the whole batch and there isn't feedback as to what you messed up.
I indicated clear vagueness in the survey as to switching as I said then, it's too early to tell.
They mention working on an auto-tool to pull from flicr being in the works, that would be nice.
I kept wondering why one of my photos suddenly jumped to over 400 views until I found it was included on a page with an article on bokeh (no ads around). Seeing it was similar to the first time I heard my voice in a radio ad (some time ago) (and disorienting).
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I need an Invite from a member if someone can do that for me.
Thankx,
RMStringer
renigade.blogspot.com
rmstringer [at] gmail [dot] com
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I guess it all depends on what you are trying to get out of your online photo sharing and or selling experience. You look like you've been with FL for ages and use it for practically anything and everything you shoot. Pho might not be that appealing to you just for that reason, I don't know.
Maybe let it grow, develop and rethink it months from now...or not!
I think it only makes sense that they try and cater to FL users...I mean where else are they going to go to find serious photographers from which they have a service to offer? Myspace?...ha-ha-ha-ha
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I'm not opposed to giving it a shot. It doesn't cost anything for a years pro account with an invite(which I got from a member of the phototrade group on flickr) and heck I might make a little money to pay for my traveling expenses.
Flickr may be already profitable for me. I've been approached by an agency not to be named to purchase a photo. No, I'm not going to link to it or anything just saying that sometimes a good thing comes along. I'll take them as they come.
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There is a group devoted to this photrade thing and yes I started it, but I'm not for or against the new site. I'm all for seeing new photo sites get a fair shake (take my work with Zoomr and Photophlow). If any of you guys start, or at least try to start a new site you can bet I'll be there to give my support. Flickr has helped allot of would be photographers be recognized so why not see what other sites may add? So far the few sites I have checked out have not bit me..
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Hi All
Just wanted to pop in and share some perspective. As some of you know, I try to keep an eye on all of the discussions going on about photrade (but don't want to jump in too much).
So, those of you who have shared feedback - THANKS - we'll work on the flickr importer and upload issues. We take feedback very seriously and it helps us prioritize our development.
As for the survey, we want to better understand what you like and don't like in a photo site... our goal really is to understand photographers, so thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts with us. We really appreciate it!
- Krista
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krista is trying to take over the world, this is just the first step in her master plan :-P
as far as uploading goes, I'm serial, I totally miss the old Java one where you could import directly to galleries, batch tag, etc.
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Hi,
Well I would be interested in having a look at PhotoTrade. Sadly, it's on an invite only basis :-(
What's interesting at PhotoTrade is that you might indeed be able to earn some money from your photos. From what I read you are also able to watermark you pictures as well. For those who make a living out of photography that might be a very good thing.
Regards,
Stefaan
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Those with apprehensions about such sites could, of course, wait for the flickr tie up with getty images .
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