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Video may make Flickr more like YouTube, but doesn't the (non-photo) graphic spam posted by anti-video protestors make Flickr more like Facebook?
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VB: good point.
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like this emblem so lovingly spammed on my photo here:
www.flickr.com/photos/striatic/146026200/comment721576044...
for those who claim to love photography so much, they sure create an awful lot of gifs.
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btw i stopped tappin my foot as I have found out videos will share the magic donkey (explorer) place! That does upset me, but so far no video has broke the top 500 as far as I can tell..
I think videos have no place in that donkeys back yard!
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Heh! Stri that video was kewl! Patton did win!
=o)
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It is kinda spooky in as much flickr is Never ending kinda like the original focus of the founders..
Always changing, but never ending..
*ponders*
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I'm banning videos from the groups I admin as well as anti-video gifs. As long as I'm able to ignore videos while browsing on flickr I haven't got too much of a problem with them.
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the only thing i'm annoyed about is how much "no to video" crap is coming up the "comments you've made" section.
ugh.
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Say NO to no videos on flick
www.flickr.com/groups/no_no_on_flickr/
I think that there should be an opt out, and perhaps a different URL for video so that Matt and others can still see flickr photos while at work.
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timtak edited this topic 50 months ago.
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I like looking at videos of cats and sunsets. :D
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Pacdog, you've nailed the secret code to flickr!
Kids, gather around, I've got a story to share.
It all started a long time ago, in a wet rain forest far far away with Game Never Ending (GNE).
Now, for those of you born before we had flickr video, you may be surprised that many people were against it!
GNE was well loved in Vancouver and beyond as the next great killer app. The app that would slay the big bad dragon called Bill tiny flaccid.
Legend tells us that GNE was soon ended when flickr went live and the peasants merrily went about their business posting images to share with other peasants around the globe.
Many many upheavals befell the usually happy citizens of the flickrverse. Too many to list in this small fable.
Many times it was said that the sky was falling but, it never fell.
inhabitants of flickrverse soon mostly ignored Chicken Little and her large family of professional sky falling watchers.
Then, and this is important so please sit up straight and grab a juice box if you need one...
...Then flickr unleashed a monster so powerful, so dark and all seeing that the citizens ran for cover under the nearest walnut shell.
This powerful goliath was known by the name of "VIDEO"!
Oh, woe is us! Members cried.
After the dust settled, and citizens came out into the sunshine of another beautiful sun filled day in flickville, a stranger arrived in the village to proclaim that GNE had never ended! They were all players in Game Never Ending and had always been pawns to the game.
The enigmatic truth teller gave them an choice.
He told them to listen carefully as, once they had picked a flickr path, there would be no turning back.
The visitor raised his fists to chest level, knuckles up and rotated and opened his palms. "take the blue pill and the story ends. You wake up back in your bed, believing whatever you want."
"You take the red pill and you stay in Wonderland and I show you how deep the rabbit-hole goes."
Now, time to clean up arouund here and transfer my videos from Youtube!
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Video on Flickr is a dumb idea. They should have created a separate site called Flickr-video (or something to that affect) so people could do their videos there.
Video takes away from the idea of a photo site - here on Flickr.
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mikeossur edited this topic 50 months ago.
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I uploaded two videos yesterday. Very... *whatever*.
Oh man, I wonder how many fewer contacts I have today, or if any of them are like this one whose profile (currently) reads:
Please note that if you're a contact of mine and you add video to your photostream, I will immediately remove you from my contact list, I hate the dumbing down of flickr to an other youtube or vimeo with a passion! It's nothing personal, I just don't really want to see any triangles in my contacts' streams.
Emphasis mine.
It's not personal? I'd say it is.
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brappy - wow, that's sad. :(
I'm personally excited to see what my contacts upload. I have made many friends on flickr, and if I liked their photography/personality/etc. enough to make them a contact, then I'm sure interested to see what their videos will be too.
Flickr for me has always been about sharing my life and vision and philosophies with others. Them adding video doesn't change that a bit; it just adds another dimension.
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Also Matt the Video! Video! Video! group is not allowing members to join.
Sorry for the late response, but I know; the membership's staff only. I think (remember I'm not staff and don't know for certain) that it was set up as a showcase for the period right after launch; one convenient place to point people to, so that the can see the manifestation of their doom how Video works/looks on the site.
If I was interested in video groups, I'd look elsewhere.
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Yeah, it's weird. It reminds me of junior high school, where if you wore green on Tuesdays (or some other arbitrary thing), you were cast out of the popular club.
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Flickr was originally a PHOTO sharing site. Videos are NOT photographs. I prefer that videos do not appear on Flickr. Yahoo can set up a separate site for videos to compete with Google's YouTube, but they chose Flickr for that. I have never taken videos because I am a PHOTOGRAPHER, not a motion picture filmer. Flickr should have been left alone as a photo site.
If I want to view videos I will go to sites like YouTube and watch the blurry videos of drunken college kids puking and passing out at some party.
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I thought that flickr was for photographers, their photos and people connected with each other because of their love and dedication of photography. People with a passion to share and enjoy their work with other like minded folk.
I learn from other members how to do better with my photography, by viewing their posted photos.
I don't want to watch a 90 second video of someone driving along in their car with a video camera capturing the scenery rushing by. How boring!
I guess Flickr needs to cater for all kinds of folk who use a camera from the casual user who just wants to share photos with family on the other side of the world to the serious photographer who uses the camera as a tool for creativity, but videos on this site!
Learning, being artistic, inspired and imaginativeness is the challenge of photography, not some short video clip.
If we want to upload videos we can use YOUTUBE, GODTUBE, YAHOO-VIDEO and the many others sites.
I personally believe that videos will decrease the class and integrity of this site.
Just photos from like-minded folk and the sharing of their photographic skills are why I joined flickr.
PS. I have a video camera and use it often and some time share with family overseas, but no way will I use it here.
Keith
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@StevenM_61
Amen.
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I thought that Flickr was for images.
It's always accepted graphic art and even screen shots.
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Oh man, I wonder how many fewer contacts I have today
All I know is that 5 people have added me as a contact since video went live. Feel free to interpret that however you want. :)
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A little less talk
If you please
A lot more creativity
Is what I need
Lets get on down
To the main attraction
With a little less talk
And a lot more action.
Take A photo
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I for one welcome this change! Now that Flickr allows us to share video, it can't be long before we can upload and share mp3's. And use the site to hauction. Flickrmail can be expanded into a full fledged webmail client. The flickr uploader will become a full fledged competitor to Adobe Photoshop - and throw in a word processor and spreadsheet to boot. Before you know it, Flickr will have crushed Youtube, Myspace, Ebay, Amazon, Google, and Microsoft, by offering everything and anything under the sun while its original purpose (photo sharing) suffers for a lack of attention, and the photographers who originally made the site great bail in favor of the competition.
Or, you know, it could have stuck to doing one thing well and made itself the premier destination for photographers from amateur to professional. But clearly it doesn't want to be that. It would rather dilute its main purpose and pollute its content with unrelated crapola.
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Y'know, what bugs me the most is the hypocrisy of it.
Remember a while back when they demanded we classify illustrations and graphics as such so they could be filtered out for the benefit of people coming here expecting to find photos?
Or when they started censoring naked people because some people couldn't handle the fact that women have nipples, amongst other body parts - despite the fact that this is a perfectly legitimate subject material?
Prudes still have their filter. Illustrations still don't count as photos. But videos get treated exactly as if they were photos, and there's no way I can filter them out of my Flickr experience? WTF?
And now my page says "Photos & Video from EJP Photo" despite the fact that I have no intention of even looking at a video here, let alone uploading one.
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Please no Video!!!
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Flickr added a feature, one that a lot of people like.
It's not a feature that you must use, it's not a feature that gets rid of other features, or imprisons political dissidents, or tortures fluffy animals. It's video in a Flash-based player on Flickr, with a 90 second limit.
If you don't like it, I recommend you try turning off autoplay in your Flickr settings, avoid joining video groups, resist the temptation to record a video, edit it down to 90 seconds, then upload it, and if you're using Firefox, install AdBlock Plus and tweak it to nuke flash on Flickr.
If the presence of video on Flickr is still offensive to you, and the idea of writing a greasemonkey/greasekit script to scour every trace of moving pictures from Flickr fills you with dread, I've heard good things about SmugMug, only a quick Google shows they have video too.
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julian, why are you trying to upset huge flickr fans with this video issue? wat exactly you will gain from it? more people with mobile cameraz? or remix videos of another artists? do you think a regular users would like to see it even there is a feature to turn it off? i doubt it can take the load of videoz since flickr gets hickups often. its not fair that flickr now paying attetion to the videoz instead of improving still photo resources.
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gocarrt [deleted] says:
So Julian, after your steps are followed, how will Flickr reconcile:
"90s or less is perfect, it protests us all from an avalance of garbage."
vs.
"90s? Are you kidding, this short-form video isn't nearly enough for my needs."
edit: typo
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Or when they started censoring naked people because some people couldn't handle the fact that women have nipples, amongst other body parts - despite the fact that this is a perfectly legitimate subject material?
Oh really? They started *censoring naked people*? That's funny... because I remember before the filters, all that stuff had to be private. Now, you can have it fully public as long as it's filtered correctly.
I love when people throw the "c" word around.
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This video on Flickr is a cheap gimmick and is not useful to any serious video producer.
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Correct.
Next blindingly obvious observation?
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This video on Flickr is a cheap gimmick and is not useful to any serious video producer.
boy, i suppose irreverent video producers will have to do then. : )
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Has anyone started a catch-all no censorship/microsoft/video group yet? I'm thinking some people could save themselves a lot of ranting and raving by just posting in the one group :-)
I can't imagine what the anti-video groups are hoping to achieve - as though Flickr are going to turn around in a few days and say "yeah we realise video on Flickr is a bit of a rubbish idea after all so we've decided to scrap it and just forget about all the long-term planning and hard work that went into the implementation of this major feature. As you were".
Flickr is a business not a democracy. So you've joined a club and the rules have changed a little bit. You can still use Flickr the same way and they're going to let you do something else that you couldn't do before but you don't have to if you don't want to.
I mean really, how difficult is it to not to click on a wee white arrow?!
I think long form photography has a sound future on Flickr.
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Julian, why are you trying to upset huge flickr fans with this video issue? wat exactly you will gain from it?
Julian is not trying to gain anything, nor is he doing anything. Julian is not staff nor at all affiliated with Flickr.
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@mikeossur: well, the majority of photos on Flickr can only be seen at around 500x300 pxls [that's equivalent to a 0.15 Mpxl camera, not 1.5Mpxl but 0.15Mpxl].
That's hardly useful to any serious photographer.
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I thought that flickr was for photographers, their photos and people connected with each other because of their love and dedication of photography.
And there I think lies the issue with the people that object to this.
Your impression was wrong. That is not what flickr was intended for. I'm sorry you were wrong, but that doesn't prevent that statement being true.
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'That's funny... because I remember before the filters, all that stuff had to be private.'
flybuttafly .. that's not true, "nipples" didn't have to be private.
they WERE made nipsa though, so you're absolutely right to say that they were "censored".
also, most other nudity other than "just nipples" had to be private, you're right.
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striatic (a group admin) edited this topic 50 months ago.
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Thanks for the clarification stri. I'd forgotten about that aspect.
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When I first read about the idea of Flickr video a few months ago, I thought it was silly and might dilute the site.
Then, this morning, I saw my first Flickr video. Diving pigs! Now I love the idea.
Seriously, the 90-second limit and the pros-only rule will keep Flickr from becoming another YouTube. If 100 million crummy snapshots haven't destroyed Flickr, video won't either.
But I agree with the anti-video folks that you should be able to filter out video the same ways you can with screenshots and illustrations.
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I'm disappointed with flickr. Seriously. I could say here a thousand reasons to like and dislike videos.
It's the unique website on earth I love to pay for and it just goes out of scope. You know, it's like those artists who got famous for acting and then go singing, directing and doing other stuff they don't have talent for, just because they are already famous.
Flickr is only famous because people who like professional photography made it. And because this community allowed every person that like a bit of photography to learn more and meet others who like the same hobby or profession!
I'm really afraid of what is going to happen...
It's just a opinion anyway...
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fd 
says:
Damn all those photographers ruining everything by shooting in color. Black and white is real photography. No to color!
And those kids with the digital! I'm gonna shoot film until they stop making it and then I'm going to kill myself. No to digital!
And those stinking punk rockers who learned to play and started new bands I didn't like. The Ramones were all we needed. No to emo!
And email! Letters need a speed limit! No to email!
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@MarkDM If 100 million crummy snapshots haven't destroyed Flickr, video won't either.
That my friend is poetic!
I soo agree!
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I can't wait for flickr to replace redtube.
I'll check back multiple times daily. Now my porn on flickr will MOVE!!!
SO COOL!
edit: Oh, yeah...90 seconds isn't a problem with me...not that i'm bragging or anything.
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slingerdoo. edited this topic 50 months ago.
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Flickr is only famous because people who like professional photography made it.
Rubbish.
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I also agree with Brock! Flickr is not famous!
Get over it folks!
:)
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It's been far too long. We all love Flickr, but we'd love it even more if they gave us free donuts! Join this group, invite all your contacts and we'll show the whole Flickr community what we really car about:
Keeping Flickr awesome and giving us donuts!
flickr.com/groups/wedemanddonuts/
www.flickr.com/groups/wedemanddonuts/discuss/721576044620...
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eh, I like pie.
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@Jim-skea.
Have you heard of all sizes? The point is that you can only do very short
video. Youtube allows movie length video. Flickr is a photo site.
Video on Flickr is just a stupid gimmick. One I see you buy into.
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Thank god we all have something new to get righteous and indignant about! It had been a week or so!
Where is the online petition???
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I guess that kills the donut group
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This is the gravest crisis to hit Flickr since one of my cat images dropped out of Explore!
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@Sidereal: Sure, I was able to scroll through this entire thread in silence until that image made me snort out loud! : D
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Now my porn on flickr will MOVE!!!
Erm, restricted-content videos aren't allowed.
Doesn't mean people won't try to get away with it, but...
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Drat, and I had this lovely video footage of lard being rendered that I was going to upload...
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Bill Jones Jr [deleted] says:
Video, who cares? It's just more crap I'll never see on Flickr. The cool thing about having a brain is I can actually turn my brain on, and junk off... like Flickr videos or American Idle. (I spelled it right.)
Seriously, "Free Tibet Videos."
Get lives.
On a serious note, it would have been nice for them to add a default not to see videos like I can avoid porn. However, I assume that's coming. Flickr isn't for pro photographers, it's for people who have digital assets to keep. This is first of many.
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Bill Jones Jr edited this topic 50 months ago.
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Bill Jones Jr [deleted] says:
Oh, and what EJP Photo said.
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notanlinesonme2 [deleted] says:
I agree
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Shabbir Ferdous: As Brock has said, I don't work for Flickr, so even if I did have a somewhat irrational desire to upset Flickr fans by adding a feature most appear to like, the closest I could come to influencing Flickr's direction in terms of features would be to post in FlickrIdeas or to randomly demand it in the Central admin group where a few of the staff sometimes post.
I think regular users would like to see it, and do in the aggregate. I don't think there is/would be massive demand for the ability to hide it, especially since it doesn't exactly do anything if you're not uploading/watching videos. While Flickr does get a bit in need of a massage from time to time, considering the insane numbers and complexity of storing the multiple *petabytes* of photos Flickr hosts multiple times, in multiple places (6 data centres), serving a massive multitude of users, connecting with a huge raft of third party applications via it's API, with the staff spending all that time playing Faceball and taking photos, I think it's amazing it works as well as it does. Also, I'd be very surprised if many, if any of the outages we've seen have been down to a lack of storage or bandwidth, rather than a somewhat cranky database server.
It's not fair? Flickr is a photo (and now video) sharing site, it's owned by a large corporation, it charges money for it's pro service and exists in a pretty free market, it isn't a kindergarten finger painting contest. Also, Flickr has paid a frackload of "attetion" to photos, and from what I can see, continues to do so, everything from the recent integration of Picnik editing to the many hundreds (thousands?) of member *photos* stuck on the walls of the birthday party they invited members to.
gocarrt: They'll probably link people to the very lovely Vimeo, enough Flickr employees have accounts there after all.
Maria Dalva: Although I can understand people's fear that this is the start of a slide down a somewhat lubricated slope with Flickr resembling Rapidshare at the bottom. I don't believe that's really the case here, as video, which consists of multiple pictures smooshed together to create the impression of movement, is pretty complementary to photos, but also because the 90 second limit is somewhat of a clear statement that Flickr aren't trying to just clone YouTube and Vimeo with a pink r because they can. They're doing it, I'd argue, because it fits well here.
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"It's Not the End of the World..." by rgdaniel [?]
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NO Video in this site !
NO Video in this site !
NO Video in this site !
NO Video in this site !
NO Video in this site !
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EJP nailed it.
I've been a paying customer since the early days, and I don't want to watch videos here. And there's a few thousand photographers like myself who just want a place to share their photos and their passion for photography.
But who cares? Forget the pro photographers, forget flickr's proven competence, purpose and vision. Perhaps it doesn't make business sense to keep it that way.
They'll keep adding features in an effort to diversify and compete with other sites for a broader audience, and pretty soon nobody will remember its original purpose.
We are witnessing the gales of creative destruction.
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> We are witnessing the gales of creative destruction.
Wow, that sounds serious...
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We are witnessing the gales of creative destruction.
I'm sorry. What? I feel like people have been saying this since 2004, and it hasn't happened yet. A "few thousand" photographers is less than a fraction of one percent of flickr, and you haven't drowned yet. You'll be able to continue to find people who care, and heck, you might even find that those you admire most actually dabble in some video. And do something special you might even appreciate.
The truly creative adapt and experiment. Or they realize something's turned bad, and leave. Only the short-sighted do the latter before it's happened.
Every photo site out there of any scale is trying to figure out "the video problem." I guarantee it. Might as well hope that a site you love is the site that gets it, and is the one to set the tone for the market.
Let's face it, the reason you hate Myspace is that they got it wrong. Doesn't mean it can't be done right.
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Videos on Flickr is great.
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NO! to videos
NO! to colour photos
NO! to black and white photos
NO! to polaroids
YES TO DAGUERREOTYPE
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YES TO DAGUERREOTYPE
Forget that! I say we should all go back to simple white lines on cave and canyon walls!!!
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I stand corrected!
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@brappy
No, it's not personal. For me Flickr is about sharing photos and I'd like to keep in touch with people who feel the same. The contacts who upload video to their "thing-streams" simply no longer fit the profile of who I'd like to interact with here in Flickr.
@flybuttafly
I find it fascinating that it while always seems to be perfectly ok for people to choose to it's always sad, pathetic, personal or something worse if another group of people choose to NOT .
So those who want to upload video here are free to do so, I on the other hand am sad if I choose to see as few of them as possible? Now THAT I find really sad.
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"The contacts who upload video to their "thing-streams" simply no longer fit the profile of who I'd like to interact with here in Flickr."
Then block people who you've previously enjoyed keeping contact with, with the sole reason that they uploaded a video. Get over yourself, why would anyone want to keep contact with someone who would do that anyways?
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So those who want to upload video here are free to do so, I on the other hand am sad if I choose to see as few of them as possible?
I'm sorry, did I say that? Because I sure don't remember that.
No, what I said was, I thought it was sad (and I really meant sad, as in the *real* meaning of the word - not the sarcastic meaning) that people would drop contacts merely because they chose to start uploading video as well as photos. Maybe I view my contacts in a different way than you, but I have developed relationships with them and to dump someone just because they're using a new feature of the site doesn't make any sense to me. Obviously people have many various reasons for making contacts - but either 1) you like their photos so *may actually* end up liking their videos too (gasp!!!) or 2) you don't have to click on the "play" arrow! I don't click on every single photo my contacts post, but unless they start uploading a bunch of rude stuff or something, I wouldn't drop them, even if they chose to use this site a little differently than I would.
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I think that there should be an opt out, so that Matt and others can still see flickr photos while at work.
i think this would be good too.
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gocarrt [deleted] says:
I think it is sad, too, Fly, in the same way that you do...but people will do things for their own reasons.
Whenever there is significant change at Flickr, there will be unintended consequences, and sometimes that will erase some of the magic that we come here for.
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notanlinesonme2 [deleted] says:
NO Video in this site !
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@dude_crush
That's exactly what I meant: "Those who don't agree with me or don't use the site as I use it need to get a) a life, b) over themselves or c) lost". Now that, in my opinion, IS sad.
@flybuttafly
There are obviously many different ways of using Flickr and the Internet and the extent of my interaction with Flickr contacts is that they view my photos and I view theirs. That's all there is to it for me. I user other means of communication to (including other websites) to keep in touch with friends and family.
While I am very much against video on Flickr I am well aware that it won't go away and would just like to be able to opt out, i.e. turn video off.
And just for the record: I also believe that whatever the issue at hand , defacing other people's "thing-streams" with huge images and derogatory comments is plain wrong and, if anything, not helping at all.
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Personally, I'd like to keep in touch with creative individuals.
And specifically not 'label' them into some kind of category that I'm fit to understand.
Getting rid of contacts because they may choose to make use of the video feature is so...short-sighted. I mean, really, there's been no problem for people to upload graphic design or illustration work via Flickr and to what extent? So some prudist 'photographers' can point finger and say: evil!
Get real folks.
And for crying out loud, stop taking yourselves so damn seriously!
Ponder, for a second, the outcry that came along with the invention of the camera once upon a time....
With the kind of negative reactions that I've witnessed here, it's not hard to come to a few short conclusions:
a) photography is super easy by comparison. It's fast, immediate and accessible to virtually everyone. Yet it doesn't stop those creative few that take it to the next level via ideas, concepts....effort.
b) are you that close-minded to believe the same cannot be done with video? Now that's sad.
Where are all these creative people?
Do you truly believe that motion picture has the capability of not transcending the average home-made video that's commonly associated with the likes of YouTube and such?
Now the real censoring rears its ugly head.
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I think video and photography are tools to create artistic works. Both should live together on flickr.
for example 90 second stop-motion movies made with a digital SLR.. photo or movie? A combination of both!
both tools will deliver crap - there are a lot of crap pictures on flickr as well! video will also have the crappy shit amongst it.
But please, it can also be used so well, take advantage of the opportunity and think about it, it's all about the art people create. Video or Photo, it doesn't really matter.
I'm all for video on flickr!
edit: panic-embryo above expresses the same sentiment.. hurra! :)
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mfrissen edited this topic 50 months ago.
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I hate the video option.
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It's been said umpteen times here but I'll gladly say it again.
There are many people here who joined flickr for the photos. Period.
And just like we can filter out Art/Illustration/screenshots, we would like to be able to filter out video from what we view as a photo sharing site. It's that simple.
Even when it comes to something as trivial as vacation memories, I personally tend to find holiday vids at least 100 times more annoying than holiday snaps in a slide show and I am sure I am not alone. I am not saying that there may not be the occasional really great 90 second gem that I am going to miss, but that's life. I still think that it will be much, much rarer to see good videos on Flickr than good photos, simply because good videos are so much harder to make.
By the way, it seems to me that both here and over in the help forum, If you compare the number of pro/con posts, there appears to be a far bigger share of venom and intolerance in the pro posts than in the con posts.
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swisskiltbear edited this topic 50 months ago.
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"And there's a few thousand photographers like myself who just want a place to share their photos and their passion for photography"
You still can, for God's sake. The videos aren't eating your photos. Share your photos. Don't upload any videos. "Problem" solved.
"And just like we can filter out Art/Illustration/screenshots, we would like to be able to filter out video from what we view as a photo sharing site. It's that simple."
So if in your account search settings there was an extra option for removing videos that'd be fine? I can go along with that. I'm all for user customization.
Please God Flickr add this feature and spare the rest of us the rabid spittle.
EDIT: More Diving Pigs!
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-RobW- edited this topic 50 months ago.
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And just like we can filter out Art/Illustration/screenshots, we would like to be able to filter out video from what we view as a photo sharing site. It's that simple.
The current filters only affect your search options, don't they? Art, screenshots, etc, still show up in your contacts page, when viewing streams and group pool.
So you just want to disable video in searches?
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Max, with utmost respect and goodwill...I feel this is a perfect opportunity for you to open your mind my friend.
I challenge you to make use of this feature just once with the same intention that you have when you put effort into producing a good photograph.
I, myself, have expressed tolerance for a new addition to Flickr and am excited by the prospect of what us, as creative individuals, are capable of doing.
Why be so comfortable with limiting your potential?
Because it's easy to pick up a camera and seize a moment it makes us great photographers? What is being compromised?
I like that 2 options are available here because it's this community with whom I'd like to share my other work. You have to see that the difference between YouTube and Flickr is that one site is a repository for a particular form of media, the other is a place to be creative and express oneself.
It's your choice and in your power to make the difference.
And enjoy yourself while you're at it.
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panic-embryo edited this topic 50 months ago.
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i am having probs in puting my pictures to groups,
www.flickr.com/photos/afu007/2403057326/
god knows wats wrong with this new upload thingy of new video thingy
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Hmmm...
I'll reserve judgement. I have concerns though.
If the community on Flickr becomes anything like that on YouTube.......
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Tigerlemurguy [deleted] says:
flickr is for art not webcam chatting!
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julian- (a group admin) edited this topic 50 months ago.
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Please
No begging Cats!
Flickr is for artistic photos!!!!
(No, its for sharing images of all quality and type)
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This is almost as much fun as when they moved the Sets over to the right.
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Now that was worth losing a kidney over.
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Some people literally killed themselves in protest.
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god, that is HILARIOUS. It must have taken you hours!
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normally i'm outraged for about half a thread of arguing and then i really don't care anymore.............this time i just don't care :)..........there really is more to life than flickr.
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I'm still trying to work out who feels threatened by this - it's not the serious artists, they'll either ignore it or use it in new and interesting ways. It's not the casual user, who will like the ability to share short clips of their new baby with the grandparents alongside the baby snaps.
The only people who feel threatened, it seems, are the people who like prescribing what others can do - the ones who object to the baby pics, the Second Life porn and the bad HDR, even though no-one's making them watch it. The ones who think they're serious artists and don't like anyone who's not like them on "their" website.
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I bet by the time they would have to allow to implement a "video filter", people will have gotten so much used to it that no one will activate it anymore.
Up to now, I really don't see what that buzz is all about. You don't have to click on a video, like you don't have to click a photo that doesn't appeal to you. What's so horrible about that?
I don't get it.
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PS I was going to say "pretentious wankers" but I'm not going to be rude ;-)
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I feel it's the people who are against anything.
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I bet China and the Olympic Committee are relieved that Flickr has taken the spotlight off them with an even bigger, more important issue...
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hah :)
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A lolcat? Seriously? Is there some kind of extreme irony filter in effect here?
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Yeah, it's weird. It reminds me of junior high school, where if you wore green on Tuesdays (or some other arbitrary thing), you were cast out of the popular club.
I feel it's the people who are against anything.
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