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they hired dan catt of geobloggers quite some time ago, so this really isn't very surprising.
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striatic (a group admin) edited this topic 41 months ago.
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I still haven't figured out the attraction of Geo tagging. Could someone explain?
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I think it's so that you can fly to the location in Google Earth and see exactly where in the world a picture was taken. That's quite impressive when you think about it.
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beebo is never particularly on the ball, striatic.
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so this really isn't very surprising.
Didn't say it was surprising ...
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beebo is never particularly on the ball, striatic.
Do you have to follow me every where?
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beebo, it's hard not to follow you, you're on a leash attached to my wrist.
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Your Teacher,
So let's say that you are Cal Henderson (Welcome to Zooomr by the way Cal) and you are at a party at 365 Brannan in San Francisco -- and you want to see all of the other people who have also been at that party or at other parties at 365 Brannan St. in San Francisco. You can just geotag a shot and then use it to show all of the other photos in the same physical location. Heh, heh. Just kidding Cal.
But on a more serious note, the first and the most valuable impact is that by geotagging your photos you can be shown photos by others who geotag near the photos that you took. One of my contacts recently shot me a comment on a photo saying how cool it was that we both took the same shot of the same thing at the Chabot Space and Science Center in Oakland. This connection was made completely randomly. She just happened to see my photo and had to physically make the connection then comment.
By geotagging these connections can become automatic. You can potentially become much more aware of the photography going on in your geographical region. As people's geography/photography begin to overlap, for many this will result in first online and then even possibly offline (meetups, photostrolls, shoots, lunch, dinner, etc.) connections being made.
These offline connections help solidify even more the online sense of community. I am much closer to the people that I've gotten to know in the offline world from flickr -- aqui-ali, deb lattimore, john curley, sfbuckaroo, all of these relationships are much stronger because our online flickr thing went to an offline friendship thing. And of course our developed friendships fundamentally have been built around an internet site -- and this is amazingly sticky.
Connections that are then made by people shooting in the same geographic region become a lubrication of sort for community development. Geotagging makes it easier to find these people.
There are of course lots of other benefits. If you are on vaction you can scope out the terrain much better of a location. If you see a really cool shot in a really cool location and someone wants to share that via a geotag you can easily go see the location for youself and go shoot there as well. Some photographers are protective of their sites but many others love to share.
There are also so many other applications down the line that this geotagging data can be used to make a photo sharing site richer and richer for people. Hypothetically for instance. How cool would it be to be able to filter a map of the community where you live by restaurant shots by all of your contacts on flickr in a geographic area. A big map with all of the restaurants within 5 miles of you that your friends had taken shots of. And now how cool would it be if your friends also rated these restaurants and you could easily see this info on a map first from a group of trusted contacts/friends and then even by all users.
And the implications and potential applications go on and on and on. It's really exciting stuff.
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Thomas Hawk edited this topic 41 months ago.
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Didn't say it was surprising ...
i didn't say you said it was surprising ; )
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I geotag my photos all the time. It's helped me find people who also took pictures at places like Jones Gap, Columbia and the Riverbanks Zoo. Because my Columbia pictures are geotagged it's easy to tell I took them in Columbia, SC and not in Columbia, MD.
There are a lot of Greasemonkey scripts out there that will let you bring up a map right on the Flickr page and see where a picture was taken. But of course you have to be running Firefox to use Greasemonkey.
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Google Earth
you mean Yahoo Earth :)
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you mean Yahoo Earth :)
most existing geotagging tools rely on google earth or google maps, so natman's explanation of the appeal of geotagging would be remiss in not mentioning google.
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All this fuzz for this quite impress me.
Technically, it takes only few weeks to set (I know I did).
The only problem is having a global friendly mapping system. This is the achille heel of flickr.
Flickr must relies on yahoo maps and outside of US and Canada, yahoo maps sucks. And making a geotagging system just for us and Canada would be seen badly by users from other parts of the world.
I am not sure that flickr can ignore a big share of its users.
Maybe flickr will make me say bullshits but I think that geotag websites can sleep well for some time.
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drag and drop, no thanks, don't need carpal tunnel more than necessary. we just built-in gps or add-on to auto sync photos with gps data.
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kanjiroushi: compare Yahoo and Google maps for eastern China, around Shanghai:
maps.yahoo.com/beta/#maxp=search&mvt=m&q1=shangha...
maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=shanghai&ie=...
Google has street maps in more countries, and so is better in that respect (for now) but having city names, highway and train maps, provinvcial/state boundaries, etc., for almost every country on the planet is more useful in *my* opinion ;)
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yahoo's problem is one of reputation and familiarity, not execution.
they first released their beta to the world while google maps was far, far ahead of them technically.
the gap is closing extremely rapidly, and yahoo has far better maps of my hometown than google does.
no, yahoo's problem is one of reputation, as in most things.
for example ~ yahoo's search is AS GOOD as google's .. but that only means that google's search is as good as yahoo's, and they win on reputation and familiarity.
yahoo has to do things at LEAST 20% better than google in order to get traction. it's sort of unfair, but it is also true.
but for use in flickr, yahoo maps are great, because reputation and familiatrity aren't at issue.
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reputation it's made in time
buy the way that a company like GOOGLE are with the consumer
JUST FINE but Hotmail for instance was a lot less friendly with users in the past and that made them less atractive
YAHOO (flickr) it will have a "bad" reputation if it will continue to do what it dose now wiht the yahoo's users. .. MRKEING users that have "non-photos" as NIPSA and teling them (AND JUST TO SOME OF THEM ) that those "may offend" it's a lot less then NON friendly attitude :D
"flickr" it's having FUN with markeing as NIPSA users "just like that"
WELL that is a bad reputation coming flickrs WAY
another aspect is that flicker is not "GOOD" for the bussine for the stock photography sites. Here along with terrible photos are (at not so "pro" users or pro once that have all sizes on) GRATE photos to use FOR FREE. that's not good for stock photograpy companies...
and so on...
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claudiaveja edited this topic 41 months ago.
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With the entire globe available it's pretty easy to cherry pick certain instances to favorably compare Google Maps vs. Yahoo Maps either way.
In terms of geotagging photos, I'd think it would be much easier to geotag using Google's version of this city in China than Yahoo's
Google: maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=shanghai&ie=...
Yahoo: maps.yahoo.com/beta/#maxp=search&q1=shanghai%2C+china...
In terms of comparing the two services, I've always found Sergey Chernyshev's tool which compares the maps side by side using any location in the world interesting.
Chernyshev uses Washington DC as his default view and you can see that Google gives quite a bit more street level data than Yahoo at present.
www.sergeychernyshev.com/maps.html#38.897661,-77.036564|3|0
Feel free to type in any location in the world though with Chernyshev's tool and it will give you a sense for who has the better mapping software. Type in your own address and take a look and you be the judge.
Here's two different comparisons of Paris by the way:
Paris 1
Paris 2
Of course, like Stewart, I'm probably also slightly biased. ;)
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Thomas Hawk edited this topic 41 months ago.
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Fascinating comparison tool.
I can pinpoint my house (in the east of Holland) on the Google map, the Yahoo map only indicates roughly where the village is...
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"...it's pretty easy to cherry pick certain instances to favorably compare Google Maps vs. Yahoo Maps either way."
Like, say, the entire continents of Africa and South America, all of Asia except for Japan, all of the Middle East, etc. ...
But yes ;)
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Cool.
It's great to see that you found Google maps vs. Yahoo! maps useful.
I'll be happy to hear suggestions for improvements.
Sergey
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YAY! (*spins some more*)
This is GREAT news.
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Quiplash! edited this topic 41 months ago.
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