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Why can't they both exist independently?
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I may be wrong but I have a eerie feeling that once every Flickr user is forced to use a Yahoo! login Flickr will be assimilated. Not right away, but by attrition (non-renewals) and employee re-assignment.
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Yahoo wants eyeballs on their site. Plain and simple. It's called synergy.
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[this] [account] [has] [been] [deleted] says:
locretious wins
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I can see both existing. Flickr will cater to the more pro and high-end amateur market, while YahooPhotos will cater to those whose sole concern is sharing with friends and family.
I can also as easily see Flickr being consumed by Yahoo.
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LOL, sevensimon!
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_mpd_ [deleted] says:
What happen? All the Cats are belong to Yahoo Photos! For great justice!
I don't see del.icio.us going anywhere either -- and they barely have a business model. Part of the greatness of keeping things like Flickr around is that they are an idea farm -- and you don't prune your research arms. Competition is good for software. It always is.
Originally posted 73 months ago.
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_mpd_ edited this topic 73 months ago.
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Who cares? If I don't like it if it happens then there are other choices. I enjoyed my sample time at SmugMug and only decided not to stay because of my stream investment at flickr.
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Flickr is owned by Yahoo... So... why bother!
Posted 73 months ago.
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I am a Flickr user as I would never be a Yahoo Photos user. That is why Flickr exists.
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Yahoo can choke on my balls if they ever decide to 'rebrand' Flickr in to some crappy add-on for their own portal.
Posted 73 months ago.
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What then I got to make a yahoo photo badge? I say leave well enough alone.
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Speaking of ends.....
Does the Groups posting activity level seem to be in a state of decline to anyone else?
Not this group specifically, just groups in general...
Posted 73 months ago.
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can someone call chicken little
cause the sky is falling
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i guess i'll just have to deal with it if and when it happens. if i don't like it, well... i'll find another place.
Posted 73 months ago.
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Maybe they should make the cat/butterfly/unneccesary flower macro/baby/apple screen shot/phone camera posters move to yahoo photos.
Posted 73 months ago.
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I thing groups got killed by explore.
Posted 73 months ago.
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it's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine
Posted 73 months ago.
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Yeah but... I don't care.
Posted 73 months ago.
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Does the Groups posting activity level seem to be in a state of decline to anyone else?
The "action" is in comments of course. Among the 170 or so Groups I'm in the only ones that seem to have discussion are huge groups (Central, Macintosh, flickritis etc.) or clubby groups like Utata. All the rest are eerily quiet...
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..vote with your feet and buy a pro account - then what ? join a group for your passion spend more time making your feelings felt see if you can make some interesting political views with your pictures and find new friends with a cutting edge then maybe find a way to show yours and others on your own website but always look out for new ways to do - your ideas and preferances
..is this stewart's end game!
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heh..i had a yahoo photo account before i signed up to flickr. I found it painful to use. These improvements are a step forward. Looks like they took all the things that people asked for on Flickr and implemented them in yahoo photo. Wont be long before Flickr has some of the same features.
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what's yahoo's is yahoo's no matter the url.
getting rid of flickr and moving everyone over to yahoo photos is pointless and unecessary and isn't going to happen.
setting up infrastucture so that users of either service can flip back and forth? possibly.
i'm willing to make a bet with the top poster that yahoo photos doesn't eat flickr within the next two years, top poster's terms.
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Sounds like some of you need to join this group
www.flickr.com/groups/ihatephotos/
Posted 73 months ago.
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I can't stand yahoo.
There I've said it.
*waits for house to fall*
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Yahoo can't get lower in my opinion anyway. It's now nearly a year since Yahoo helped the Chinese state to jail a blogger who spoke out against the government there. Seeing as, according to Amnesty International, China already executes more of its own people than any other country on earth - we can probably guess what happened to him. I would say Yahoo has blood on their hands. It already hurts me to use a Yahoo service, but I never ever click sponsored links from any Yahoo service, so they really are providing a service free to me. My concience can deal with that for now.
Sources:
BBC News, (Yahoo helps China arrest Blogger) news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/4221538.stm
BBC News, (Chinese Executions Oustrip World) news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/1425570.stm
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I expect Yahoo get money for the ads being served on Flickr, not just clickthroughs...
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@willgrant: Will you take your campain about someone that broke a law of their country and a company that was based in that country complied with the law some fucking where else
Every time I see this pathetic subject I know it is you.
I bet you would have no problems what so ever if a UK citizen released a message that was marked secret to someone that was not authorised to see the message and they got arrested, get over it or get out.
Just because you can smoke a joint in Denmark doesn't mean you can light one up outside a New York police station. Comply with the law of the land or pay the consequences. If you don't like the law you have two options, leave or use the processes in place to get it changed.
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tuxcomputers edited this topic 73 months ago.
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@tuxcomputers:
Every time I see this pathetic subject I know it is you.
You're wrong there. I'm sure that this has been debated lots before, but not by me.
Unfortunately the local-rule-of-law argument doesn't hold much water when the state in question is such a brutal supressor of human rights. Sadly there are no "processes in place" for change.
My post wasn't a campaign, it was a personal explanation of my views towards Yahoo. Agree or disagree with the politics - that's up to you.
Posted 73 months ago.
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I used to do beta testing and translation of Konfabulator, I still stick to calling it that, even though it's now "Yahoo Widgets". The day flickr is yahoo login only, I quit.
Posted 73 months ago.
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The day companies start trying to make money, I QUIT.
Posted 73 months ago.
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I'm sure they'll lose a lot of sleep over that.
Posted 73 months ago.
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I really should be the CEO of Yahoo.
Posted 73 months ago.
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right now the value that flickr presents more than the experience is the brand it has built. Flickr has so much brand equity that its price/ worth is not so much in tech or even its community but the name itself. "coke" without the brand is just sweet water...
Posted 73 months ago.
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If Flickr change the UI I'll quit.
Oh. Damn.
Originally posted 73 months ago.
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-RobW- edited this topic 73 months ago.
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The truth of the matter is, Yahoo is *the* brand. I can stop anyone on the street, and if they've surfed more than two pages in their life, they know the name Yahoo. Would they know the name Flickr? Probably a small percentage. So, spend money marketing the unknown, or improve an existing household name.
When they introduced the Yahoo login, do you think it was:
a) they wanted a convenient way for existing Yahoo users to explore and find a new photo site, or b) one day drop the notice "Hey folks! Flickr is now part of Yahoo! Photos. But don't worry, all your sets, photos and contacts have conveniently been moved over. Click here to explore your new home! Not a Yahoo user? No problem. Sign up here and be part of the 30 quazillion members who call Yahoo home. That'd be one long Flickr massage. ;)
Posted 73 months ago.
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"I just hope Google buys off Flickr or even the entire Yahoo"
OMG, best laugh I've had all week.... That would most likely be a case of meet the new boss, same as the old boss...
Posted 73 months ago.
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Maybe it would be bad business to merge the two. Maybe the users of each are different somehow, and the market naturally segments that way.
Posted 73 months ago.
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Flickr is one of the coolest little toys Yahoo! has every had. It's sticky. It keeps people on a Yahoo property. It's got great buzz and PR and will not be being folded into Yahoo! photos. Yahoo! may be having a hard time figuring exactly what they will do with Flickr and how (in my opinion only of course) to get it profitable, but no worries, they've got the sexiest coolest thing in photo sharing right now and they will not be fucking with that by rolling it into Yahoo! photos. They may figure out other things to do with it. I'd imagine at some point profitibility could become more important and there are lots of ways to figure out how to monetize this whole thing but they seem to be moving slowly. Perhaps just being thoughtful, careful and prudent with their direction more than anything.
No way these things move together in the short term if ever.
Originally posted 73 months ago.
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Thomas Hawk edited this topic 73 months ago.
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CyberGus [deleted] says:
"I am a Flickr user as I would never be a Yahoo Photos user. That is why Flickr exists."
I agree laSilvi!! :)
Posted 73 months ago.
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I also hope that they don't merge Yahoo Photos and Flickr. Call me selfish, but I don't want another 30 million members...
Originally posted 73 months ago.
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RoninVision edited this topic 73 months ago.
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Well, I would imagine that figure is off a bit from the real truth. I am both, a Yahoo! member and a Flickr member. I joined Yahoo! through SBC (now AT&T) DSL. At first I played with Yahoo! photos but I didn't get into it like I have Flickr. Now that I have been a Flickr member for more than a year, Yahoo! photos has been left to collect dust.
Flickr's layout is a key factor. The site is a photo lover's paradise. I am able to dive deeper and deeper into a particular style or I can simply watch a specific artist as they express their talent daily. Do I need to mention the Fav button?
I don't see Flickr disappearing. In fact, I'm betting my Earthly immortality on it. When I envision Flickr in 50 years, I see a photo-journey of many peoples lives, preserved forever as an internet archive. Call me romantic.
Originally posted 73 months ago.
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TahoeSunsets edited this topic 73 months ago.
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I have photos in both.
The Yahoo interface sucks.
Posted 73 months ago.
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Didn't even know there was a Yahoo Photos.
Posted 73 months ago.
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"I would imagine that figure is off a bit from the real truth."
Yes, it's a few months old. The most recent worldwide figures from Comscore (May) have Flickr at 16.5 million uniques a month and Yahoo! Photos at 30.7 million.
But the larger point is that there are NO plans to merge Flickr and Yahoo! Photos. (I work on Flickr at Yahoo!) They have different audiences, serve different purposes have different goals and support different parts of Yahoo!'s overall strategy.
BLANKartist: we don't feel like one is better than the other. If you prefer the new Yahoo! Photos UI, you should use it. I think it's pretty sweet too, and I have a lot of respect for the team that put it together as well. But neither one is going to be "assimilated" into the other.
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I'd love to give the new Yahoo Photos a spin (the current UI is horrid). But alas, I'm in Canada. :(
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Has anyone else noticed that those of us who joined Flickr before the Yahoo! buyout were supposed to be all using Yahoo! logins by now? That seemed to have never happened. I know I'm happy.
(edit: missed a word)
Originally posted 73 months ago.
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Eric Hunt. edited this topic 73 months ago.
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Yahoo Photos exists primarily for people on Yahoo IM to have photos of themselves and send photos to the IM chat buddies. Totally different thing than flickr. I bet Flickr has far more recurring users and people who do more than manage their own albums.
Posted 73 months ago.
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I also think that Yahoo would be stupid to mess with success. Flickr gets them more press column-inches than anything else, and probably attracts more users than anything else.
Yahoo aren't that dumb. The fact that they survived the dot-com collapse and came out still a strong, profitable company says that.
We don't want Google to be the only Internet company doing cool stuff. Competition is good.
Posted 73 months ago.
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.steve.t [deleted] says:
I think I'll just keep taking photos, thank you.
Posted 73 months ago.
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@Stewart -- Thank you!
Posted 73 months ago.
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Midori no Saru says: Maybe it would be bad business to merge the two. Maybe the users of each are different somehow, and the market naturally segments that way. I think this is exactly right. I have family members that use Yahoo! Photos to share their photos, and it does that job well. The "secret" URL mechanism works to let only family members see their albums, and the ability to order photos works for those that prefer prints to screens.
I've signed up for the Y!P beta, can't wait to get switched over and start trying it. With tags and comments Y!P will work for family sharing in a way that Flickr never has. Does this mean I leave Flickr? I don't think so. It may mean that I upload far fewer private photos to Flickr, and stop trying to get those hold-out relatives to sign up for Flickr, but there is still a community in Flickr's groups (and fora) and among my contacts that I'll want to visit.
I'm glad to hear Stewart say there will be no assimilation, but I'm thinking I may want to live with a foot in each world and would like some features to facilitate that. As I've said many times of the Yahoo! Groups' Photo section, I'd really like to be able to easily add my Flickr-hosted photos to my Albums in those other services, without duplicate uploading, titling, describing, and tagging. Of course, one distinction in those albums between a natively uploaded photo and a Flickr-hosted one would be the link back to the photo's page on Flickr!
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I like flickr to stay where it is a improve itself and not merge with the existing yahoo photos.
Yahoo photos have different use - share with family, friends etc... Flickr have something more, share and get feedback from the decerning users, etc...
You cannot compare number of users on yahoo and flickr. If it were a retail store, all on flickr is luxury because of its quality and all on yahoo is normal daytoday not so expensive stuff. You cannot mix the two.
I think if mixed, it would devalue flickr to the eyes of its pro-users.
just my 2cents
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Ghene Snowdon (Mushroom & Gadgets) edited this topic 73 months ago.
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I agree with zou M & G!!! It seams to me too that Y!Photos will be better for exchanging photos in closed groups (like families) and Flickr for more "arty" pics and sharng among global community of friendly strangers.
Almost never heard of Y! photos untill now, and, like Y! messenger, Y! mali and all the rest Y! is sucks big way: withotu originality, CRAPY look (OMG look www.yahoo.com -------> terrible!!! and useless 2 me)
Flickr and Y! ------------------> beauty and the beast
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