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It's not a very good start is it?
I really hope it all works out, but so far the Yahoo take over has felt like letting your parents take over the sound system at a party.
Please don't let them wreck it!
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OK, I'll bet with striatic and Stewart as well -- but only from faith, I have to say. Faith and hope.
Not the realist's best friends.
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It may be a little off topic, but if I use the Merge account function, it will merge all my Flickr's pictures to Yahoo's, not the other way around? I have pictures uploaded in Yahoo accont, will they be combined with Flickr? :>
at this point no photos will be merged either way, although this is the sort of thing that would enable mingling or synching flickr and yahoo photos in the future. or not.
this is one of the things that will help make merging ultimately a good thing, even though right now it kinda' sucks.
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i've merged my flickr/yahoo thing but it doesn't seem to 'remember me' each time. i've checked the little box but i'm having to type my password each time i go to flickr.com.
is it just me or anyone else experiencing this?
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Henry: for now (TTBOMK) your pictures from flickr and Y! won't be going anywhere in either direction.
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I have two flickr accounts. One is my main one and the other is for dumping loads of photos that I don't want littered on my main account.
The "loads of photos" account is already hooked up with my yahoo email which is in turn hooked up to my yahoo360 dealie (not that I use it). Should I (eventually) create a second yahoo email for my main flickr account? Will I still be able to get my flickr email through my gmail account?
Meanwhile, it is interesting how we are so quick to become doomsdayers and naysayers. I'm sure I do my part of it, too. But c'mon people. Flickr has been incredibly true to their word, has shown the best customer service ever, and has continued to rock our flickrverses. Let's give them some credit and benefit of the doubt.
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Little Dragon: there are issues around just what that checkbox is doing or not doing at the moment. Y!'s login stuff is a complicated beast, and it's being worked on.
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I wish I'd read this before I merged... I'm already tired of logging in every time :(
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you and me both. but at least its being worked on, right? :)
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I agree with Emdot, but I have to say that if Yahoo start splurging adds all over my Flickrverse I will be out quickr than you can say "Flickr".
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As a pro user, you don't get ads, teach. :)
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Hi everyone -
Thanks for all your calm, angry, happy, panicky and kind words. They are all being heard.
Until the dust has settled, we're going to give you the option to unmerge your accounts. We're not quite sure how long this will be for just yet, most likely only a week or two. We do know that it will take people a little while to relax into what is a fairly big change. (As well as making sure that the major external apps have come online with the new authentication stuff they need.)
So, if you want to step back and take the "I'll wait and see" line (which is totally fine), let us know. Please make sure you are Super Clear about which accounts you need to unmerge.
And, please don't contact Stewart via email for assistance :)
Also, ellipse, a personal apology for the sucky communication. You can blame that all on me and as always, rely on the Flickrverse to tell you what time it is. ;)
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So, when we merge, we will still remain PRO, correct? Until it expires?
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yes. you will
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how separate will we be able to keep our identities? I use Y! right now for some mail functions and there have been numerous occasions where I've had to erase personal information about me that's been made public on Yahoo without my permission or design. My flickr is fairly firmly linked to my 'real' identity, and I really don't want this to result in me having to manually delink a bunch of stuff that I don't want public under that username.
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Good question cicatrix. It kinda depends :)
I would guess that there will be preferences of some sort for showing or hiding various bits of info from within Yahoo! The sort of stuff you can see already on Yahoo! 360... where you can be surprisingly fine-grained about who you will allow to see what.
Something like that anyway :)
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Rant mode on.
I had this major nasty rant about !Yahoo, but this is all I am going to post:
Flickr should stay as Flickr is, without the influence of !Yahoo or their desired rules and procedures. Keep the Flickr administration on board and let them do what was in their dreams, not what is thought in the best marketing interest of !Yahoo and how !Yahoo can make another buck.
Rant mode off.
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Just keep the options open. Like with YM, no I do not want to download all the extra stuff, so no, I don't. If anything related to my browser, desktop, or anything else automated is changed without asking me, I'll cry. I mean it.
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If that malarkey starts, I'm off...
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Good news. I'm all unmerged, and my addons work once more :)
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i'm all for the merging, but it broke my iPhoto Flickr Export plugin :( May need to "unmerge"?
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hi scottpartee - Yep.
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Now that flickr has been subsumed by the cursed yahoo I can see us all getting submerged in the usual yahoo garbage of ads and unwanted services
i am so willing to take bets on this.
Well it's already happening, isn't it? We're all being forced to get Yahoo accounts. Trust that those of us who don't have one, don't want to have one. Unwanted service, right there.
Now about that pro account. I don't want to pay for one if it's going to force me into getting a Yahoo account. I really do not want yet another account to manage, especially not with a company I do not trust.
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Yahoo! isn't so bad - I've had an account with them for a number of years, and with the recent make-over, it's much cleaner and easier than it was. I'm even trying their search engine instead of Google for a change.
It could be lots worse - it could have been Micro$oft - and we could have been forced to sign up for an M$ Passport. Now, THAT would be horrible.
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Good point, van_in_nyc!
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I've been a happy Yahoo! customer for years (yes, I actually PAY for it), so I'm all for the merge. Been a happy paying Flickr customer, too. That's just me, though.
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i'm assuming if we merge our accounts and then later on for some reason or other decide to delete our Yahoo! account, then bye bye flickr account also?
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I am not a Yahoo fan, Flickr Yes, Yahoo no.. 99% of the spam I get is from Yahoo accounts.. either bogus or they have open relays.. I block all Yahoo mail and have to go to a special folder to check to see if I got anything worth unblocking.
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What I would like to have is a clear answer to this: Is Flickr going to keep a sufficient degree of indepence from yahoo, or is it going to be just another yahoo service?
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... has left the building [deleted] says:
So what's it gonna be, flickroo or Yahookr?
I spent the last half hour trying to get at least one of the usual IDs I am used to since many, many years. None, nada, zip, zilch. "Yahoo ID [fill in the blank] is taken. Try another Yahoo! ID"
Thank you, but no, thank you! :-(
What's the next surprise coming our way?
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I like Yahookr because it sounds like an insult.
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... has left the building [deleted] says:
Well, it forces something on me that I did neither want nor paid for ... so maybe it is.
I used to love Flickr. A lot.
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Cradle of Filth [deleted] says:
this is bad because people tend to hack yahoo alot..... iknow people who know people who know people on the net who can do this. it is all on the yahoo chat rooms.
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"Yahookr" sounds like something we'd say here in Minnesota.
"I saw a great big northern out der in da lake."
"Yahookr?"
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but right now, nothing has changed
except faster flickr and less downtime burps
those are good changes?
plus the team swung into response as soon as users reported problems and requested the option to undo.
also good?
i think so
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Finiky: are you actually getting mail from honest-to-goodness Yahoo! accounts, or people forging mail from @yahoo.com? Because I'd feel safer going out on a limb and saying that 99% of spam is forged and not from where it says it's from. Seems that people mix of where they get spam varies widely.
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lucamar: I doubt that any company's future can be writ in stone, and your expectations of "sufficient" and everybody else's probably all vary. That said, perhaps Stewart will have a moment to weigh in at some point with (hopefully) reassuring words.
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Ahahahahaha!!
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Because I'd feel safer going out on a limb and saying that 99% of spam is forged and not from where it says it's from.
So true. I get dozens of returned spam messages every day on my gmail account, meaning that some slimy spammer is pretending to send mail from my address. The worst part is that there's no way to filter out most of the returned messages, since they aren't technically spam. God, I hate spammers. :(
But that's somewhat beside the point.
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“Yahookr”, said the orc.
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@Norby - Yes I know it can be spoofed. I would hope Yahoo would or maybe they are cracking down and working with others to stop the spoof'ers. True you can't stop it all...
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I'd ask you to reconsider making it mandatory but I think you've probably already made up your minds, or dare I say it, had them made up by someone else.
So could you tell me if the export all photos+data option will available before we have to submit to the big Y? and will it include a list of your contacts?
(and yes, I could possibly sound more ominous)
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No, I did not see the option. I checked "Remember me on this computer." when I signed into flickr.com a few weeks ago. Also, I allowed FireFox to remember my login details.
I should read the Flickr.com news blog for the details on the new sign-in page.
I hope I answered you question.
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I see a stick ("must do X by 2006 to continue using Flickr...") but no carrot.
I understand there's no carrot yet. Come 2006, though, it had better be a huge carrot to get over my dislike of those yahoos. I've used their signon system before for a few mailing lists and my experience with it sucked rotten donkey offal.
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at this point no photos will be merged either way, although this is the sort of thing that would enable mingling or synching flickr and yahoo photos in the future. or not.
Reading this made me daydream about a day when Yahooligans find themselves members of Flickr, and not knowing what it's about, water down the discussions and fill their photostreams with images taken from the net that we've already seen a thousand times. I occasionally use MySpace, even though it's gotten so big and unwieldly, and it's filled with half a dozen Paris Hiltons, and other faux celebs... how long before Flickr is filled with a couple "Ansel Adams" and "Cartier-Bressons"?
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I spent the last half hour trying to get at least one of the usual IDs I am used to since many, many years. None, nada, zip, zilch. "Yahoo ID [fill in the blank] is taken. Try another Yahoo! ID"
this isn't so important, because the way the system is set up, you can log in with yahoo account named aleifhewrbhieaerlfkjv and still have "pandarine" as your flickr screen name.
from the FAQ:
" 3. What's a screen name? Why do I need it?
When you sign up for a Yahoo! account, you're assigned a Yahoo! ID. This is a permanent, unique identifier for your account.
When you sign up for Flickr, you can choose a "screen name" for yourself. This can be virtually anything you like and you can change it any time you like. The only constraint is that it has to be unique.
You can use your Yahoo! ID as your Flickr screen name if you like, but you're also allowed to create a screen name that has spaces in it. So, that' nice.
There's a specific page to change your screen name listed under Your Account. (The link is in the top right corner of the screen when you're logged in.)"
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from the Flickr Blog, March 20:
"Do I have to have a Yahoo ID to use Flickr?
No. In the future, you'll be able to log into Flickr using your Yahoo account, but you can continue logging on as before. "
This clearly implies that it would be optional.
I have to say, I was leery about the "takeover" then, but was happy with reassurances from Flickr that Yahoo and Flickr would remain separate. Despite this, it seems like they're slowly morphing. I've used Yahoo in the past, and I didn't like their "in your face" approach - ads, downloads, sign up for this that and anything else.
I just wanted to say if this was anywhere other than Flickr, I'd be out of the door like a shot.
:(
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Before someone comes along and takes some easy money can I echo Marco in pointing out that for some of us a Yahoo! ID is an unwanted service.
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i merged my account to yahoo, but i have two problems now, the "remember me" option doesn't work and i can't log on to flickr mobile.
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this is bollocks. ive got four pictures to upload - just four - and none of my usual uploaders work (thats the official flickr uploader and the iphoto uploader).
why did i bother merging my accounts?
i cant help thinking ive made life easier for f*****g yahoo, rather than improving my own.
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If you've only got 4 to upload, why don't you just use the upload page?
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helpful advice. thats what i did, but i'm just a bit peed off because ive had to change my practices just to help out hahoo.
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I don't like the idea to be forced doing something. I don't have a Yahoo Account and don't want to have one. If there is still the solution not to merge with a Y! account, it is temporary.
I'm disappointed to see a so great service going this way. It's now open doors to Yahoo people and it's quickly gonna look like a place where no ones knows no ones, and will get less and less a friendly place to share photos with friends and family.
It was already hard to get my family and friends sign up to Flickr. It will be worse if I tell them that they have to subscribe to a Y! account if they want to see my nice private photos.
Of course you're gonna make more people subscribe to Flickr Pro Accounts, but I think that on this one, you're gonna loose many Flickr users, that were here at the beginning, that don't want to see Flickr go down into a Y! option that all Y! users have access to.
I was here because I loved sharing photos with people that had the same passion, but I'm not sure I'm gonna stay that long if Flickr becomes a place where Y! users just come here to post some crappy photos just to test the new sharing photos.
The sign up page is already dirtied, what's next ?
I think I'm gonna think of a home made solution. It won't be as nice as Flickr is at the moment, but surely won't let Y! get on it !
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I have to say, I was leery about the "takeover" then, but was happy with reassurances from Flickr that Yahoo and Flickr would remain separate. Despite this, it seems like they're slowly morphing.
Is it morphing or assimilation by the Yahoo spam-borg overlords?
I hope the Flickr staff can keep the 'spam creep' under control because Marco is right - the rash bet about there not being unwanted services and other nuisances has already been lost.
I signed up for Flickr precisely because it was the antithesis to the banal, spam ridden, impersonal, pestering services provided by Yahoo.
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I took the plunge and merged. Mostly because I was curious what it would be like. I don't notice any difference, except:
1) I like the shorter log in name, instead of having to type the @....; and
2) My "new" comments and messages from the groups never updates. They're the same "new" messages from the last times I've logged in.
Perhaps the merged accounts didn't bother me as much because while I had a Yahoo username from a time that I wanted to use a Yahoo service, I don't use it much. Actually, I mainly use my Yahoo email only when signing up at some business or other internet site and I'm afraid I'll get on some spam list. Helps keep the junk out of my "real" email.
On some petty, twisted level I like the thought that I'm sending spam indirectly to Yahoo. Not that they care, but it's the principal of the matter. :)
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Before someone comes along and takes some easy money can I echo Marco in pointing out that for some of us a Yahoo! ID is an unwanted service.
it also isn't currently a mandatory service .. that'll take a year.
why not give flickr a year to make that yahoo account a wanted service before making up your minds?
they have given you that long to make up your minds, afterall.
and give me a break on the "oh heaven gee, there already unwanted services!" .. it is an optional merge, flickr has suggested on multiple pages that existing users don't make the merge. there is a year's leeway before the merge becomes mandatory.
so why is everyone complaining about something that they can avoid so easily, and go on as if nothing has changed? .. let flickr fix all the legitimate bugs over the course of a YEAR .. and then merge accounts and again go on as normal, or possibly with an upside.
there's also the logical intractibility of "a yahoo account is an unwanted service because a yahoo account is an unwanted service" and no flexibility to perhaps let flickr attempt to MAKE a yahoo account a wanted service?
and in the meantime we don't even have to get a yahoo account .. so why don't we just get our feet out of the mud?
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why not give flickr a year to make that yahoo account a wanted service before making up your minds?
The yahoo account was an unwanted service a year ago, why should it be wanted in a year?
It should not become mandatory. Certainly not for existing members. I suppose you could require new members to have a yahoo id, though that has been proven so far to be troublesome as well. But it is definitely very bad form to require existing members to sign up for a service they don't want to sign up for.
It's exactly what everyone was afraid would happen with the takeover. Back then, we were guaranteed that Yahoo's influence wouldn't reach too far and that we needn't worry about bunches of (ya)hooligans coming in and 'LOL!'ing all over the place. So why is all that happening now anyway, despite those guarantees?
Yes, I know this mandatory thing is a year from now, but that does not change anything. The yahoo account will never be a wanted service. If it were, I would have had one already.
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The yahoo account was an unwanted service a year ago, why should it be wanted in a year?
so you're saying that is is absolutely fundamentally irreversibly impossible for anything to happen in a year's time that might possibly make merging one's flickr ID with a yahoo id a desirable thing?
if so, that's not the kind of absolutism i'm prepared to debate.
The yahoo account will never be a wanted service. If it were, I would have had one already.
your logic is just so flawed, i frankly can't stand it.
the fact that there is no past or current reason for you to want such an account in no way pre-determines that there will be no good reason in the future.
i'm not even saying that there WILL BE a good reason in the future, just that there is a possibility. flickr has given you a year to make up your mind and you're perfectly prepared to make it up right now based on a predetermined future.
at absolute worst, they've given you a year's warning to find a new place.
we needn't worry about bunches of (ya)hooligans coming in and 'LOL!'ing all over the place.
and where did the devs ever guarantee anything in the way of the culture staying the same? i'd love to see that quote.
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so you're saying that is is absolutely fundamentally irreversibly impossible for anything to happen in a year's time that might possibly make merging one's flickr ID with a yahoo id a desirable thing?
Exactly. Well, to make it a little less absolutist, the chances are slimmer than those of the world coming to an end in the next 30 seconds.
the fact that there is no past or current reason for you to want such an account in no way pre-determines that there will be no good reason in the future.
i'm not even saying that there WILL BE a good reason in the future, just that there is a possibility. flickr has given you a year to make up your mind and you're perfectly prepared to make it up right now based on a predetermined future.
Is it really unacceptable to you that some people want nothing, or since yahoo took over flickr, as little as possible to do with Yahoo? Is it really unacceptable for people to want that, and continue using flickr like they have for however long they've been doing so? Why?
You seem to be very much a proponent of this thing. Why is that? Do you not care about being forced into things you don't want just because you want to continue doing something you like? I realise you may already have had a yahoo account, but surely you can extend the principle behind this to other things?
I'll try and find the quote, though I'm afraid I have no idea where to start looking.
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Is it really unacceptable to you that some people want nothing, or since yahoo took over flickr, as little as possible to do with Yahoo? Is it really unacceptable for people to want that, and continue using flickr like they have for however long they've been doing so? Why?
there is nothing wrong with that. but you have a year for them to change your mind. and a year is a lot of flexibility in this day and age.
if, at the end of that, you're still not convinced, you've had a whole year to prepare to leave.
You seem to be very much a proponent of this thing. Why is that?
i haven't merged. i'm telling all my friends not to merge. i've said in this thread that there is currently ZERO reason to merge.
i'm not so much a proponent of this thing so much as i'm saying to flickr "put up or shut up"
you're just saying "shut up"
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Striatic, thank you for your advice, but at my age I need something I can easily remember. aleifhewrbhieaerlfkjv does not fall into this category, as much as I want it to. Neither does pandarine12345 or something like that.
I do have a Yahoo account since a long time, but I do not want to merge that with Flickr, because I don't like to mix business with pleasure. And I certainly don't want another Yahoo account.
I do have a paid Flickr account. I should have at least the option of keeping everything as it is until I have to renew my paid membership.
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Striatic, thank you for your advice, but at my age I need something I can easily remember. aleifhewrbhieaerlfkjv does not fall into this category, as much as I want it to. Neither does pandarine12345 or something like that.
well, you have a year to think of something ; )
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there is nothing wrong with that. but you have a year for them to change your mind. and a year is a lot of flexibility in this day and age.
That's the same as getting a new car and having the salesman tell you 'Have fun with it! Be sure to get a different one in a year though because it'll be broken by then!'. Sure, less extreme. But bad form still.
Now about that quote, right above where they (Caterina Fake posted this on the FlickrBlog) said this:
Do I have to have a Yahoo ID to use Flickr?
No. In the future, you'll be able to log into Flickr using your Yahoo account, but you can continue logging on as before.
They say this:
Are you going to become Yahoo Photos?
No. [yada yada] Flickr would also suffer from a sudden deluge of LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! omg! so we're going to grow it carefully.
(link)
I feel we're being let down on both points, here. (Or rather, going to be).
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maybe in a years time they will do a cross reference of fickr ids with unused yahoo! accounts.
and for 99% of us we can have a yahoo account with our flickr id
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Striatic,
I understand you disagree with the viewpoint; however, that does not make us wrong in not wanting a Yahoo! account, even on principle. Were it not set to become mandatory, I wouldn't even be engaging in this discussion.
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merged IDs are also my primary hope for a revitalised FlickrLive through YIM.
meshing with myweb2.0, which some flickr devs are currently working on.
also, that wasn't a promise against cultural change, it was a promise that they'd grow things slowly.
flickr has been growing quickly, but that certainly isn't yahoo's doing .. few and far between are the avenues by which they're pushing traffic at flickr.
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I understand you disagree with the viewpoint; however, that does not make us wrong in not wanting a Yahoo! account, even on principle.
i don't want a merged account right now either.
and you aren't wrong to not want a yahoo account right now .. right now, there is no utility to having one. i don't think anyone is arguing that.
i guess part of this for me is that i've seen more cool stuff coming out of yahoo lately than i've seen come out of flickr.
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when i was in SF talking with the yahoo people that the flickr devs are working with, they were the most concerned about this out of everyone there.
Good. And I really hope it doesn't happen.
It still leaves the yahoo id thing though. We were told we wouldn't need one back then, nor in the future. Now, apparently, that has changed for the worse. I could call it blatant lying, but I trust it wasn't meant like that. It'd be very nice if they stuck to what they said.
i don't want a merged account right now either.
That's not the same. We want the unmergeable account: one that consists of only the flickr part. No yahoo account to merge with.
I don't care that it breaks flickr API apps. This will be changed for non-merged accounts, too, because the new way (which is apparently mandatory for merged accounts only now) is a much safer way of authenticating. The old auth APIs will be deprecated and the apps will be fixed. It's purely that I do not want a yahoo account.
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Nic6545 [deleted] says:
I think that being able to merge your account is a VERY Good feature for some people (like me!). This is because I use Yahoo! alot --For Mail, Geocities, Maps, Search.-- But some people don't so they would just use a Flickr Account.
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xmark [deleted] says:
It's not that I don't want a merged account right now.
I don't want a merged account at all.
edit// Marco got there first
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I don't want a merged account at all.
never ever, ever under any circumstances?
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I don't believe you are reading things correctly, if you think it was promised you would never need a Yahoo ID for Flickr.
And while I don't believe we could ever convince everybody of this, we do believe that Flickr will be better for its integration with Yahoo!, much better. There are good features coming that would not be possible without it.
And we are working through each and every complaint and bug you guys have reported, believe me.
For those of you that complain that there is no reason to sign up with Yahoo!, because they offer no services that you find useful, well, they offer you Flickr :)
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... they offer you Flickr :)
No. Until now you could have Flickr without Yahoo, why should it be in any way better than "now" if you need Yahoo for Flickr? Or maybe I misread your irony.
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I don't believe you are reading things correctly, if you think it was promised you would never need a Yahoo ID for Flickr.
Then why did you (flickr, not personally) state that before? There is no way that I can read "you will be forced some time in the future to get a yahoo id if you want to keep using flickr" from the quote I posted earlier.
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There is no way that I can read "you will be forced some time in the future to get a yahoo id if you want to keep using flickr" from the quote I posted earlier.
no, but the quote doesn't say that you will never have to have one.. just that in the future you'll be able to log in the same way as before ..
"the future" is different from "for all eternity"
still, worded unfortunately. i think they were trying to address a short term concern with what came out sounding like a long term promise.
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Quiplash! [deleted] says:
Thanks for the unmerge option, George. Much appreciated. Just sent in my request to be unmerged :-)
In my case, it also appears to have smucked my "Blog This" set-up. Argh.
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eric is my hero
but george is aways flickr's rockstar
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no, but the quote doesn't say that you will never have to have one..
Not explicitly, no. But it does imply that.
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Not explicitly, no. But it does imply that.
I think it's pretty explicit: Do I have to have a Yahoo ID to use Flickr? No. It couldn't be much clearer - "Do I have to? No, you don't have to."
A more accurate answer would have been "Yes, but..."
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/me leaves this topic to go get some pie...
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Until now you could have Flickr without Yahoo, why should it be in any way better than "now" if you need Yahoo for Flickr? Or maybe I misread your irony.
Exactly. Yahoo owns Flickr so yes, of course they "offer it as a service", but I think Flickr has done too good a job building up loyalty and trust in the original core team.
I can't speak for everyone, but the warm fuzzies I get from Flickr are from Flickr, not from Yahoo. You guys are the ones who put together a service and community that gets all the things that are annoying about MSN/Yahoo!/etc services right. This may be more of a PR/community perception problem than anything.
Frankly, I don't really care if I have to log in with a Yahoo! ID in a year's time. It's annoying, but if that's the extent of Yahoo's encroachment I can deal. I just don't want to start seeing all of Yahoo's cruft start spilling over into Flickr... I assume that pro accounts will remain ad-free, but are non-pro users going to start seeing giant flash/banner ads/pop-ups/interstitials on my photo pages? Are Flickr mail messages to and from non-pro users going to be cluttered with 10 lines of "Do You Yahoo?" spam at the bottom? These are the things people are worried about. Well, the things I'm worried about, anyway.
J David, what are you having? A great big slice of Boston Cream pie sounds mighty good right about now.
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teotwaki, you'd be right if the question was "WILL I have to have a Yahoo ID to use Flickr?"
but that isn't the question.
what's the definition of "is" again?
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... has left the building [deleted] says:
eric is my hero
but george is aways flickr's rockstar
I couldn't agree more, ellipse! ;-)
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but that isn't the question.
True, but perhaps this confusion could have been avoided if it had been the question.
On another note, is the constant thread sabotaging with pie comments a result of Yahoo zombies flooding Flickr? Or something more sinister?
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True, but perhaps this confusion could have been avoided if it had been the question.
which is why i think it was "worded unfortunately" .. but we're talking about web developers writing a blog post, not lawyers writing a contract.
On another note, is the constant thread sabotaging with pie comments a result of Yahoo zombies flooding Flickr? Or something more sinister?
no .. actually most of the pie lovers are pretty old guard flickr members.
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meshing with myweb2.0, which some flickr devs are currently working on.
We are? Kewl! Can I get some of that pppiiiiiieeeeebrainspiiiiieee?
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no .. i mean there are flickr devs currently working on myweb2.0 .. not working on the meshing {to my knowledge}
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pie!
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To all the hard working Flickr-bees... I have much respect and well hey, I love you guys.. :-)...
Yes I know, Yahoo own's Flickr now, I decided to take the wait and see approach. But the forced Yahoo ID thing.. well makes me want to say, ok this is where I get have to decide if it is worth hanging around.
Yes I know this sounds stubborn...sorry.. I don't mean to be. I guess like some, my fear is this is the first step in changes that some of us deem not so positive.
Thanks for listening.
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Thanks, Eric. You have clearly answered my question: Flickr is going to be in a very near future (or is it alreday?) simply a Yahoo! service.
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By the way, if anyone else hasn't noticed, if you signed up for flickr since this change or merged your accounts, your information is now under the Yahoo! flickr privacy policy.
While there is stuff coming out of Yahoo! that I like (OddYah! will be interesting), I still have a leery feeling about handing my information over to them.
I'm more worried as to how this will affect new members. If I saw flickr for the first time today, and saw I needed a Y! account to register, I doubt I would.
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I've been using Yahoo mail for years and merged my accounts to (I thought) eliminate the extra click of choosing old or new login. What's more annoying, though, is that now that I'm under the Yahoo login I can no longer clear my notices of new comments or new thread entries in groups. You guys need to fix that.
This is a long thread, so if I missed something above, I apologize.
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@Julian: I doubt I would too. I used to have a yahoo account, but I never used any of their services, just don't like how it works and all the spam, ads etc that you get. I would like to keep using my gmail account for flickr and not needing to have yahoo email.
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wait a sec... did someone change the title of this thread in the last couple of hours??? Now it reads: Yahoo to Merge Flickr into Yahoo! Photos - didn't it read something about Yahoo merge ID before?
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hm .. could be .. the current topic title is rather misleading.
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okay, there was a recent flub up with editing permissions and i'll assume that's when it was changed .. so i changed it to what i thought it was before .. if the initial poster takes issue because they changed it instead of some person given random editing permissions, they can change it back.
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To reduce frequency of Yahoo! login, go to: Yahoo! Login/ My Account/ Member Information/ Edit (on the right side)/ General Preferences/ Login - select "Every Day".
I don't think this is the default setting. I remember having to change it when I originally signed up with Yahoo!
You will still have to log in more frequently than daily, but not every darn time you navigate to a different page.
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But -- it only works sometimes, for some people.
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The original title was 'yahoo | flickr login options'.
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Ok..thanks to the Flickr team for allowing the un-merge.
One thing I noticed was not working right on the Yahoo! login that is working again now that I am back on a Flickr login, is the "New Comments" and "New Posts" notifications. When using Yahoo! to login, the notifications stayed on and never went away (cookie issues?) so every time I logged in, it was showing me the same comments I have been reading for the past day as *NEW*.
Either way, back to the Flickr login and happy all is working as it used to, thanks again.
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Well, this thread has eased my mind a bit about the future of yahoo/flickr "merging." Like Striatic said, the login issue has a year to work its bugs out before becoming mandatory... which is like, forever in internet time. I can't wait to see what new features are coming out soon... but I expect them to be pretty cool. If that's what's coming out of this whole merger, than great. I'm still a teensy paranoid about Flickr becoming indistinct from Yahoo, because its this distinction of being its own little world that makes me love Flickr, but the devs and admins in this thread seemed to make it pretty clear that that ain't gonna happen.
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