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Looks like its an "option" now but will be mandatory soon:
"Please note that we will be migrating all independent Flickr accounts to Yahoo!'s network in 2006. At that time, if you have not done so already, you will be asked to create a Yahoo! ID (or link your account to your Yahoo! ID if you already have one) in order to continue using your account."
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Heh. On the Y! login page:
"People who use Flickr rock!
Not only does Flickr make you smell better, it also makes you more attractive."
Glad to see that Yahoo! is still letting Flickr have fun.
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that's lame, IMO.
I have a yahoo account, but this attempt to induce me or anyone who does not have one borders on the pushy.
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Wait, so we're going to have to merge the two? What if we don't want to?
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I'm sorry I did that.
Now everytime I want to go to Flickr, I have to sign in again.
:-(
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Ouch.
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I think they should wait until all existing pro accounts expire before forcing users to merge accounts. That seems reasonable to me.
[Edit: I wonder what the alternative is. Maybe Flickr accounts will automagically morph into Yahoo! accounts? Dunno.]
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"I think they should wait until all existing pro accounts expire before forcing users to merge accounts."
Maybe you mean all pro accounts created by the end of day today or something like that, which would put us at mid-2007 if they purchased a 2 year. [edit: That seems pretty long to me.]
Anyway, it's nice to have a single log-in, especially since I use the Y! toolbar, but I don't want my Yahoo ID visible on Flickr or vice versa (sp?). I like to keep the two separate because they're used for different purposes. That's probably already in the plans though, I would suspect.
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purplezebra - that is indeed the way it will work: you still have your Flickr screen name -- your Y! ID will not show on Flickr (unless you want it to). All that changes is the page where you go to log in (and, eventually, more payment options, integration with other services, etc.)
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I remember once upon a time 'merging' an existing account to my yahoo one.. for a service they had taken over. I was never able to login to that service again.
I'll be waiting until it's 'mandatory'. But i'm curious as to how the yahoo id works. When they create an account with their yahoo id.. do they still have to make a 'username'? I'd assume so.. I mean else it would be chaos. That happened with one of their mergers before, where many people were asked to change their usernames since there was already an associated yahoo ID with that username that didn't belong to them.
I'm pretty sure I asked that question when yahoo bought flickr and was assured that flickr users would retain their usernames. Was just curious if that's still the case. That's really the one thing that would bother me. To suddenly have all the well known flickr users 'replaced' with someone else. heh.
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I do have a Yahoo account also, and I'm not opposed to joining it with my flickr account, but I'd really prefer to use my flickr screen name as my Yahoo account id.
...but I gather that's not possible...?
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I just merged mine and have had to log in twice since then! Bad move on my part. I guess I'll have to live with it.
(my flickr screenname was already taken(!) on Yahoo, so I've got a different one on Yahoo, but my flickr one stays the same.)
*EDIT* I haven't had to log into Flickr multiple times, but going to other Y! sites I've had to.
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@curiouskiwi
I just merged mine and have had to log in twice since then! Bad move on my part. I guess I'll have to live with it.
I only ever had this annoy me with Yahoo Email, but I only check that a few times a day. This 4 clicks and a password to get to Flickr every time is getting old really fast.
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Tak, Special, just to be extra clear: YOU WILL BE ABLE TO KEEP YOUR FLICKR SCREEN NAME FOREVER. The account process is merging, but your identity can be distinct :)
Curiouswiki: there is probably a bug - Flickr should be remembering you and you shouldn't have to log in multiple times. Will get this fixed!
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Thanks Stewart. That's a huge relief. Still though, I think i'll wait a little while to merge the two just to be on the safe side. I would get annoyed if I couldn't stay logged in. heh.
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Stewart, sorry, Flickr is remembering me. It's the Y! account pages, etc., that seem to want me to log in.
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Thanks for the clarification Stewart. I like the idea of more payment options and other possible integrations. I've been cautiously optimistic since the Yahoo! announcement, but so far, no fuss, no muss. Great job guys!
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How does this impact me if I want to use Flickr API apps that still use the old authentication scheme? Should we wait until they're updated or will the old Flickr authentication still work until those API calls are depricated?
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Stewart wrote:
>your Y! ID will not show on Flickr (unless you want it to). All that changes is the page where you go to log in (and, eventually, more payment options,..
* ker-ching! *
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It's working fine for me and the cautiously optimistic feeling is here, too. Until now I have to say:
And I, for one, welcome our new Yahoo overlords.
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Ok, I just did it and noticed a scary message about not being able to use uploaders etc anymore. Will it simply be a matter of changing my login details, or will they not work at all because I'm now using an alternative login method?
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No, seriously, a lot of us distrust Y! When there have been previous 'mergers' with other smaller companies, Yahoo has asked for money for what we otherwise continue to pay for via advertising.
I chose to pay for my Flickr account, as have the other questionners here. I don't want that paid-for service meaning any overlap/crossover with my heretofore use of (for example) yahoogroups.
So if I log out of Flickr, or log in or out of Yahoo, what then?
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mutantlog - the old authentication method is already deprecated in the API (which just means we're giving notice that they will eventually not work) but in the meantime, they will work. We are updated our official API-based applications, and we know that many developers are working on or have already completed updated applications.
Cyron - you may have to download a new version.
brendadada - I don't quite get what you're trying to ask.
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Damn... Then perhaps I should have waited until such time as my preferred addon apps had released new versions...
Somewhat annoying...
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Stewart, thanks for your answer. I actually have another, bigger problem. The birthdate that Yahoo has on-file for me is incorrect.
I'm totally baffled as to how this happened.
Will this cause problems for me when joining the account with flickr? Is it likely to cause problems afterwards? Is there anything I can do to get it corrected?
I suppose the last resort is to delete my current Yahoo account and create a new one. But I'd prefer not to do that, if possible.
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You'll never fix Yahoo to remember our logins. It's a hopeless cause, so don't bother.
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True enough Stewart. Wrong terminology on my part, but I take it from your response to Cyron's question that if I'm currently using Flickr Uploadr or Fraser's Flickr Export Plug-in for iPhoto I should hold off on merging my Flickr and Y! accounts until there are updated versions.
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Grrrr. Download a new uploader? Well I was using the mac OS X uploader and now there seems to be no replacement.
The web upload interface is ponderous.
Nice work, Yahoo. And I was just starting to feel ok about Yahoo again.
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I liked flickr.com very much the way it WAS...even in the beta version.
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Don't blame Yahoo, Kevin - that part is our fault: the new OS X uploader proved to have a problem at the last minute. It will be fixed shortly and available for download later this week.
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i guess i'm not following all the screen name issues properly. i was going to go claim the yahooid of twistedtigger, because that's what i have for EVERYTHING (except yahoo, that is). Guess What? twistedtigger is already taken in yahoo. so, i have to have a new screen name in yahoo.
the question, then is, what if the yahoo in yahoo who already has the screen name that i have in flickr wants his/her flickr name, assuming he/she has or will create a flickr account, to be twistedtigger? who wins? who has priority?
grrrrrrrrr.
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Stewart wrote:
brendadada - I don't quite get what you're trying to ask.
I think a 'hold tight' option is okay for people who have home systems with stable cookies. But actually, I have no idea. A bit of warning about this wouldn't go amiss. A grey header bar, for example, for us Flickrbetas, warning of the possibility of multiple log-in options.
That is what is happening, is it? People being asked to log in differently?
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The problem, from my perspective, is that Yahoo is a constant log-in headache. I have several friends who gave up on their Yahoo mail accounts entirely -- couldn't log in at all; or had to log in repeatedly. And good luck getting any support from them, for anything. The automated support rarely understands your question, and I have never managed to get an actual person to respond.
About as far from my Flickr experience as it is possible to get.
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Your flickr name won't change twisted. Your yahoo name could be Joe Smith, and you'll still keep twistedtigger here, even if twistedtigger from yahoo signs up to flickr...
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Yes, sbpoet. The 'once a day' option is supposed to prevent Yahoo! from prompting for login more than once every 24 hours. Seems more like every 24 minutes to me. Login repetition makes browsing and posting to Yahoo! Groups a pain. This would be a good feature to 'Flickrize'... I'm holding off on merging my accounts (same username) until it is no longer optional.
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I merged my accounts and I'm logged into Yahoo, and I thought Flickr, but everytime I close my browser I have to log back in.
Hope this is fixed... and quick.
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I'm in the same boat, twistedtigger. I'm going to have to use something other than Olivander, which leaves me with one of my other two Yahoo accounts. I use one for Messenger, and the other for managing my Yahoo Groups. So if I use one of those two accounts for Flickr, and have the other open for YM or Groups, which of the three will blow up and disconnect?
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ditto, van_in_nyc
actually I'm in the throes of dumping yahoo for all it was good for. my large groups are migrating to php, my smaller ones to the blogosphere...
funny that, eh.. ?? ;))
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Actually, when all is said and done.. how many of us have been happy before Flickr to have our picture/portrait/contact details on the internet?
Serious question.
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is it just me, or is sad that we learn about these changes and their ramifications through the flickr communty sharing information and asking questions as opposed to being notified through the flickr blog or flickr news.
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Tried to create my identity at Y and it's already used
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i'm wondering what happens if your Yahoo! ID happens to be the same as your Flickr ID already? I'm dubious about the seamlessness of this change.
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sbpoet - I am totally with you on the help hell in Yahoo!, but I haven't seen that problem here on Flickr. Quite possibly because their help system, via the forums is much different than the FAQ crap on Yahoo!.
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fishlamp [deleted] says:
Did the merge, and have no problem with logging in... the problem seems to be with the 3rd party apps (Flickrfox and the iPhoto extension). They're not working, even after reinstalling them. Must wait on their developers to see if it's something that has to be fixed on their end. Also disappointed that there is no OSX Uploader for a few days; the only way I have to upload now is through the web =(
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dada:
> * ker-ching! *
actually, it is good that flickr will be able to handle different payment plans. i know one friend in south africa who was unable to go pro for awhile because of lack of options. so that is a good thing.
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"you will be asked to create a Yahoo! ID (or link your account to your Yahoo! ID if you already have one) in order to continue using your account."
Blech I was afraid of this. :/
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fishlamp wrote: ----------------
They're not working, even after reinstalling them
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That's the killer. I'm annoyed I didn't know that this would happen before I upgraded, because I rely on these apps to expand my flickr experience. Having to wait for people to update the apps is annoying when I could simply have waited to do the merge...
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kirsten_pdx: Your Yahoo! ID and your screen name on Flickr are not tied to each other in any way. Just like your screen name on Flickr and you legal name in everyday life don't have to be the same OR could be the same, your Y!ID could be the same as your Flickr screen name, or it could be different. Merging your account will have no impact on your Flickr screen name.
ellipse - there was supposed to be a news post when it happened (not sure what happened) and a blog post later tonight. There will be one, and MOST people will learn about it that way :)
fishlamp and Cyron (and anyone else affected) - it is totally our fault: we should have warned people about that up front (this has since been fixed).
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(And Tak, your birthday setting shouldn't affect anything, and there is some place to change it - though I can't find it right now ...)
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You will need to sign in to Flickr via Yahoo! from now on.
Any Flickr-related applications you've downloaded and set up may not work anymore because your account details have changed. (Like the Flickr uploaders or some of the kewl API applications other Flickr members have built.)
You might need to get fresh copies of any Flickr-related applications, and set them up again. Go to the Tools page to get started.
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to late for me now
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fishlamp [deleted] says:
Stewart: I'm not angry or anything... it's BETA, and I understand it. I have more patience than normal when it comes to Flickr. Thanks for rolling up your sleeves and diving into this (discussion) though!
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Hmm, just wondering -- what if we have two Flickr accounts?
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Stewart, mark me down on the list of those who would like to unmerge b/c I'm having to log back into Flickr via Yahoo a million times an hour. This is just like Yahoo Mail or Fantasy Sports... the "Remember Me" checkbox has ZERO bearing.
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Mark me down to UNMERGE. Thanks Yahoo.
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Stewart: the "You will need to ..." message really ought to be displayed *before* you merge, and not after. It's always nice to know what you're getting yourself into before you are past the point of no return.
-/\/
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I merged my accounts, works ok, the only thing is that,
it doesn't update what is a new comment on my photos or what is a new post in the groups.
I'm sure this will be fixed but just sayin.
this worked much better than the Yahoo Geocities merge (a few few years ago) :)
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i was going to merge my two accounts, and have no qualms about doing so other than that i have to re-login every time i want to so much as glance at yahoo 360.
so with that in mind, and looking at this thread, i think i will hold of on merging until there is some tangible benefit to ME for doing so.
not some benefit to yahoo, not some benefit to flickr.. some benefit to me.
and hopefully by the time that occurs the sign in issues will be sorted and there will be at least one tangible benefit in place for doing this. because right now i'm coming up with no good reason whatsoever.
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The whole thing makes me nervous. I have a Yahoo mail account and it does NOT remember me, even on MY computer, I have to type my password every time I login, which is why I prefer to use my gmail account.
I will do just like striatic, wait till there is some benefit or good reason for me to do so.
Anyway, I just went to the Yahoo page and couldn't see flickr anywhere...
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Hmmm..I've never had anything to do with a y account/id as far as I can remember, and I have no particular desire to be forced to have one.
The extra click to log in is already very boring.
I trust there's going to be an 'idiot's guide' to this so I will understand what I'm being forced to do.
Not impressed.
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Stewart - thanks for the feedback on all our thoughts
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Will we be able to change the Y! ID associated with our accounts? Was just wondering cause previously we could change the email address assiciated with our account, and thus that we logged on with, which was useful for me cause I sometimes change email/Y! ID if one ends up getting too much SPAM or I realise i've signed up to too many band mailing lists and want an email address for more personal things or something.
Also, as a side note can you *pretty please* not make us pay with Y! Wallet, it is the most confusing thing I've ever used in my life :s
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Not impressed.
the basic idea of consolidating the IDs is ultimately a good one, both from yahoo's perspective and from a regular yahoo or flickr user perspective.
what is all wrong here is the execution and the timing, which frankly they've already blown.
but they've also already claimed responsibility for that and are working to fix things.
it is pretty simple .. the fundamental idea of merging is good but they need some very basic things like a good and proper FAQ explaining all the things that stewart has explained on this thread. they also need to fix the "i don't want to log in 30 times a day" problem.
more importantly, they need to provide some of the integration they've promised . right now there is ZERO reason for anyone to merge, and this adds to the frustration because it feels like we're just doing yahoo a favour and not getting anything out of it in return.
but .. you know .. let's put this into perspective .. at this point the change is optional, possibly reversible {albeit you need to email a dev} .. and they've provided a whole year's leeway around something with a high potential upside {although zero upside as it stands}
so, while this isn't FUN, it could be much worse. most importantly, the developers are highly engaged in making it work so maybe we should cut them a little slack while they fix things and exercise our option not to merge quite yet.
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Well put striatic - I'd certainly like to know what I'm getting out of it.
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Claudecf said exactly what I feel too...
I have tried to be positive about the Yahoo takeover, but this development has the taste of small company gradually being subsumed into the giant Yahoo...
Will we eventually (or sooner!) only be able to 'get to Flickr' if we first wade through all the giant's other 'goodies'? That's not why I joined.
And looking for Flickr on Yahoo.... where is it? It's just not there and only a WEB search throws up the Flickr name.. if, for example, I click on Photos it takes me to YAHOO Photos... no mention of Flickr.
This development makes me wonder if Flickr as an identity will even make it out of beta, or whether it will have been totally 'integrated' into Yahoo by then.
Sorry not to be able to find a positive note in this.
Edit: I'll keep logging in through Flickr only
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There is a post on the FlickrBlog now:
blog.flickr.com/flickrblog/2005/08/one_less_passwo.html
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Deadbeat Dad [deleted] says:
Can Steeev or any of the other GreaseMonkey geniuses puh-lease come up with a script that adds a "sign in to flickr" button to the front page that skips the Yahoo bit and goes straight to www.flickr.com/signin/flickr/.....
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I have tried to be positive about the Yahoo takeover, but this development has the taste of small company gradually being subsumed into the giant Yahoo...
actually, it hink flickr has had a far more profound impact on yahoo than yahoo has had on it.
myweb2.search.yahoo.com/
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xmark [deleted] says:
Let me get this straight:
I don't have a Yahoo! ID. I never have had one, nor do I have any desire to get one.
But from 2006 I will be forced to have a Yahoo! ID in order to use Flickr?
I guess I won't be using up all of the term left on my account (expires 2007).
Sucky.
Could I request - purely on a selfish basis - that you get the downloading programming finished this year.
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Striatic wrote:
>so, while this isn't FUN, it could be much worse. most importantly, the developers are highly engaged in making it work so maybe we should cut them a little slack while they fix things and exercise our option not to merge quite yet.
So they/we HAVE that option? This is a done deal, isn't it? I am fortunate enough to have a relatively stable on-all-the-time home system. If I have to log in and out as yahoo requires, with all the identity conflicts that yahoo deprecates, dis-recognises and variously swallows, in reality, I have no Flickr account. Like I effectively have no yahoomail account. Which just collects mail, or something.
emdot wrote:
>it is good that flickr will be able to handle different payment plans. i know one friend in south africa who was unable to go pro for awhile because of lack of options. so that is a good thing.
And you know that is a good thing without knowing what that 'different' payment plan is? Would you trust me with, say 30 dollars to give to someone in the UK ?
I wouldn't give Yahoo one single penny for anything. That's because I have never, been able to communicate with anyone there. That's the whole point behind my ker-ching comment. Flickr has built a trust that makes paying for a service easy. Yahoo hasn't.
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So they/we HAVE that option? This is a done deal, isn't it?
we don't have to merge for at least another year.
in that time, i suspect that they will solve the login foolishness, at the very least for getting into flickr.
sure, it will be mandatory in a year, but it isn't yet and so until then just don't change anything and log in as easily as you ever have.
if in a year when they want a mandatory merge but still haven't sorted out all the problems, then by all means complain .. i'll be right there with you.
but this is really jumping the gun in terms of criticism, in my humble opinion. unless you want to talk about the fundamental problems with a yahoo ID, in terms of things that can't be solved in a year's time.
personally i think that using yahoo IDs makes a lot of sense and opens up more possibilities for future features.. so while i don't like the idea of merging into this technical problems now, i'm certainly not adverse to the concept once they've sorted this all out.
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striatic said: "actually, it hink flickr has had a far more profound impact on yahoo than yahoo has had on it."
I see what you're saying by that link, striatic, but the fact remains that the name/identity Flickr is strangely absent from the main pages of Yahoo and now we're being asked to join the Yahoo log-in system.
This feels like the first big impact since the takeover and it's not encouraging.
To echo brendadada, Flickr has built up our trust in it (largely by keeping in touch and engaging with members) and that's invaluable. In my experience, Yahoo has done little of that, and, as it grows ever larger, it communicates less and less.
It seems to me that, generally speaking, people who signed up for Flickr and who enjoy its community feel are a bunch of individualists. The Yahoo ID is much more a 'herd' thing.
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my concern for a while was the lack of communication coming from flickr. Then Heather arrived, it got better, she does a brilliant job of keeping on track of everything in flickr help. But, with zero noftification on this and the problems with uploadr (or something like that) dissapearing is it time for flickr to get someone to join Heather with communicating to the community.
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you know .. sometimes a sign-in is just a sign-in.
It seems to me that, generally speaking, people who signed up for Flickr and who enjoy its community feel are a bunch of individualists. The Yahoo ID is much more a 'herd' thing.
i think that's an overstatement. there are individualists and communalists and leaders and followers and corporate whores and dirty hippies and everyone in between .. all types here.
there are people who like the idea of tapping into the yahoo network and playing around with things like IM, or possibly yahoo photos for printing services. there are also people who are fundamentally opposed to corporate culture and consolidation, and have have legitimate past history with yahoo that shouldn't be discounted.
but it shouldn't be taken as a given that this history will repeat itself here. it might, it might not .. but viewing this as some unrelenting march towards corporate doom isn't helping anyone.
yahoo can get big and flickr can stay small .. or both can get big .. or flickr can get big and still feel small .. or not.
point is, yahoo can make flickr suck with or without changing the ID system.. and flickr can make flickr suck without any intervention from yahoo at all. i really don't see what the id system change has to do with innately signalling flickr's doom. changing the ID system also has the potential to make the system better for users and not just for yahoo.
yeah, it sucks to merge now .. so don't merge now.
it says right on the sign in page that users prior to aug 15th probably shouldn't yet, and in the flickr blog entry .. so i'm not really getting what the big issue is.
*shrugs*
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I was just thinking that it would be kind of nice, in an open community sort of way, to post a link back to this thread and debate, over on the blog post of the same theme... especially as ya can't leave a comment on the blog, (which is kinda strange for a blog)... but this thread will do the trick for you Flickr!
blog.flickr.com/flickrblog/2005/08/one_less_passwo.html
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Stewart, the problem is that Yahoo uses your birthday for authentication, so it's not supposed to be changeable after your initial registration.
I once tried to upgrade my geocities account to a paid account, but couldn't because of this problem. In a sense, I don't have "control" over my Yahoo account because I can't prove it's mine.
So, my fear is that I might lose "control" over my flickr account by merging it with my Yahoo account.
I wish there were a process for me to correct what was either an honest mistake or some unfathomable database or communication error. But Yahoo seemed unable to help me, even when I was offering to give them my business.
Edit: By the way, thanks, Stewart, for giving me some of your attention with this very particular problem of mine. I expect at some point I will phone a help desk about it, or something, but it would be cool if I could get some help from an insider. :-)
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It even broke my wordpress flickr gallery. Stewart, the faster you can undo this for me, the happier I'll be
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What if I don't want a lame Yahoo account. It's never worked for me in the past and I avoid them like the plague. They have issues with MACs. This is not a good way to go.
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Yahoo ask for password too many times. It will drive me crazy considering how many times, I go to flickr.
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I'm going to dedicate my older home computer to staying on Flickr so i never have to log in.
Seriously, i've had a Yahoo account since before Flickr and didn't have many problems, but also didn't find much at Yahoo that interested me (groups/photos) in a social sense. Flickr does interest me so I'm glad to see Yahoo trying. And i definitely want Flickr to survive - and if that means logging on to both with one swoop, then so be it.
I'll defer merging until a few more nuts and bolts shake out, tho.
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Question for the Devs and/or anyone who has merged. I use yahoo heavily now, but this has the potential to change that some... Is there any way to get flickr email to go to another of your yahoo accounts? All my email goes to one account, that I fetch down, filter out the bulk email and Spam, and forward to a second yahoo address. This way I get email notification only for email I need to read immediately, as opposed to being notified about every piece of mail.
I'm usually logged into that second address, so I want my flickr to be associated with that account. But I want my email to go to another account. Is this possible now, will it be possible in the future?
Thanks.
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I won't merge until I have to, dragged kicking 'n' screamin' through my Ethernet connection!
Anyone notice how the big Y! resembles two roads merging into one? Eeriee...
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I for one will take a "wait and see" approach. Wait to merge my accounts until it's mandatory, and see if the various problems that seem to be inherit with Yahoo logins get fixed. However, having gone through the Yahoo assimilations of both Geocities and eGroups, I am not optimistic. I'm just waiting for the first piece of comment spam to show up on one of my photos. And when that happens, I'm outta here.
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I did not and do not want a Yahoo account and if I have to login vs being remembered, 50, 000 times a day to Flickr then, what is the point?
I did create an account, have not merged and won't until I have too. I hope I can redirect all the yahoo spam I get to my yahoo email account or maybe send it to help desk at yahoo and they can shut down the bogus accounts?
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My 2 Cents,
Iam so fed up with this news, why ?
Because its a road I have been down so many times before on my 8 years on the net.
It always goes something like.
You find a really cool/fun/useful thing that is run by a group of people who like customer feedback, realise that customers are not all the same and do what they do for the love of inovation.
Really cool/fun/useful thing takes off and starts to become an bit unwieldy, but us die hard fans still love it cause it still has the cool/fun/useful features and we dont mind a few clunks.
THEN......One of the Big players gets involved, either at the invitation of the original group or as a result of a takeover/merger.
Thats when things always start to go downhill, not always with bad intent or as this seems to be case with changes made that havent been thought throught for all the consequences on the end users. Iam sure that there are many many new features to come that use this new system, but its a big NO ARRRRGGGHHHHH NO NO NO NO !!! ;-) to just spring this on people without fully explaining the implications, like not being able to use existing tools when you have performed the merge.
Its been a big 2 cents worth, but my plea to Flickr is , PLEASEEE, SLOOOOOWWWW DOWN... cant you just finish off getting the other things working 100% and then start doing other stuff, and be aware of the sensitivty against Yahoo and its lack of customer support / human contact. You have a great thing going here, just dont let it become another Internet casualty, something that used to be cool/fun/useful until it became so full of half working extras that the core product is abandoned by its users. !!
Andy :-)
PS, Flickr, I still love you, this is just one of those "Iam telling you this cause I love you and dont want to loose you" letters :-)
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Stewart: Thanks for your responses, they're helpful and reassuring! It's great to see that you're still engaged with those of us on the other side of your screen.
You guys have built a remarkable service. I trust that you (and your team) will infect Yahoo with a sense of a "body of play." Flickr has never (since I joined in Febraury 2004) been a static thing. Good luck keeping a Flickr identity as you integrate those parts of the service with Yahoo! that will be better for it.
I can't wait to see what you do next.
For my fellow members/users- enjoy what brought you here!
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Quiplash! [deleted] says:
Kudos to Stewart for keeping us so well informed, in the manner to which we flickrites have become accustomed ;-)
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The best outcome of this would be for flickr to convince yahoo to allow a new 'remember my password indefinitely' setting for *yahoo* logins.
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Striatic's point about there being zero benefit in merging for us users is a good one. I believe I will wait until I have absolutely no choice.
It doesn't help that most peoples' experience with Yahoo!'s other services has been (judging by these comments) overwhelmingly negative. I abandoned my own Yahoo mail account years ago when it became so overrun by spam that I couldn't empty my inbox fast enough to keep it from going over quota every day. I got tired of wading through flash advertising that took up half of the browser window on every other screen, too.
Like everyone else, I love Flickr to death. I like that Flickr does one thing, and does it extraordinarily well. I like that my pages are not littered with cross-spam for two dozen other services. I like that I can trust the powers that be at Flickr not to wreck that.
The problem is that I don't trust the powers that be at Yahoo! not to wreck that once my Flickr account is tied to a Yahoo! ID.
But that's my initial, kneejerk reaction. As others have been calmly trying to say, it's probably premature to go all headless chicken about this. I trust the guys + gals at Flickr to fight the good fight and try to keep Yahoo! from totally ruining a good thing.
I don't know how optimistic I am about their chances, but in the meantime Flickr still rocks, and I'm going to stick around until it ceases to do so.
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The best outcome of this would be for flickr to convince yahoo to allow a new 'remember my password indefinitely' setting for *yahoo* logins.
amen!
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Well, that's screwed Flickr then, I'm a fairly recent user and was enjoying the atmosphere. Now that flickr has been subsumed by the cursed yahoo I can see us all getting submerged in the usual yahoo garbage of ads and unwanted services, I'll start looking for another host for my photies.
Yahoo has proved time and again that they are incapable of running a secure and non-aggravating site.
All I can say is that I regard myself as lucky that this happened before I signed up for the pro account (planned for this weekend) - yahoo will *never* get any of my money.
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okay.
Now that flickr has been subsumed by the cursed yahoo I can see us all getting submerged in the usual yahoo garbage of ads and unwanted services
i am so willing to take bets on this.
seriously .. someone set up a reasonable criteria for a wager, and i will lay down the value of a pro account on it.
seriously.
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I wouldn't be surprised if I lose a lot of the older family members I've finally managed to get hooked up to Flickr when this happens. They're not tech savvy and if they get a message in 2006 about creating a Yahoo ID, they won't know what to make of it. I hope the process is *very* clear and dead simple.
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"The best outcome of this would be for flickr to convince yahoo to allow a new 'remember my password indefinitely' setting for *yahoo* logins.
amen!"
amen amen! And you know, Stewart and Co. are just the bunch to do it, too.
That dog, Dos Pesos...I hear he can hypnotize people.
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they've created a FAQ section, linked from the sign in page that you can check out here:
www.flickr.com/help/signin/
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yes i it was go do happen so to yahoo's onw flickr for weeks and weeks and weeks now i saw it coming
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I'll take striatic's bet too (on the same side, of course), up to US$100,000. Be interesting to see if there are any takers :)
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The best outcome of this would be for flickr to convince yahoo to allow a new 'remember my password indefinitely' setting for *yahoo* logins.
They've already convinced themselves of this without our help (perhaps not indefinite remembering, but longer term) - but these things move slowly: when you have several hundred million users using the site in dozens of languages in 100+ countries, all kinds of integrations with various partners, this stuff is not simple.
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I want striatic and Stewart to win! ;)
I love flickr!
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It may be a little off topic, but if I use the Merge account function, it will merge all my Flickr's pictures to Yahoo's, not the other way around? I have pictures uploaded in Yahoo accont, will they be combined with Flickr? :>
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