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I really don't like the column switch. The picture is the most important part of the page so it should be on the left, since our eyes tend to go from the top-left across the page.
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Yeah, it will take a while to get used to.
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All changes require getting used to... it's good for the brain :)
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don't want to get used to this change! i want the columns switched back to the way they were before!
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"... our eyes tend to go from the top-left across the page."
Actually, on web pags your eyes look center-left-right (in that order) according to eye-tracking studies. Web users' eyes have been trained to anticipate the content of the page being in the middle, flanked with navigation and ads.
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The next/previous text buttons are a big improvement, though couldn't they be placed just under the thumbnails instead of superimposed?
I'm not sure I see the point of swapping the columns. It'll take tens of thousands of flickr-usr-hours for us all to get used to it, and it doesn't seem to improve usability at all.
I do appreciate the pony, though! He arrived a few minutes ago, and he's happily munching hay in my office. I shall name him Snowdrop.
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It'll take about 15 minutes of photo-page-looking-at for people to get used to it, I bet. We've spent about 200 hours on it now and think that putting all the stuff on the left is the only way it it's going to work, given upcoming changes. This way the photo is free to take up as much space as it needs.
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aah! what the heck? i was used to the way it was, and i liked it, never mind what the eye-tracking studies say :(
change it back, for comfort's sake, please...
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I don't like this at all. The title at the top should be in alignment with the picture. That's the main thing that looks wrong to me about this new layout. The other things being on the left or right may not be so important but please consider aligning the title with the picture.
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After two more months, once you're used to it this way, we'll change it back.
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scrame [deleted] says:
My nitpicks:
"prev"... what happened to the remaining letters?
I find the font for the current context too noisy (it's too big or too blue).
The title attribute of the cc-icon contains the URL to the license, I'd prefer the name of the lic.
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well, i know i'm an aberration and you have to make changes that benefit the flickr community as a whole, but i only use my left eye and this pretty much drives me insane and leads me to sit way to the right of the computer
but this does at least fix the problem you had with vertical (portrait) photos in the most recent layout --the right alignment on the left column definitely didn't work at all.
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All changes require getting used to... it's good for the brain
Very well said.
It will take a bit longer for emailed instructions to less adaptive family members to catch up. ;)
I frankly don't see a problem. The first photo page I saw with the new layout took me by surprise, even with the "column switcheroo" warning. The second page took me an extra couple of seconds to grok. A few more and I'll have adapted fully.
Looks good from here.
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Ok, I've worked out what it is that irks me about the whole next/previous thing. Even clearly spelt out as it is currently, it still feels wrong. It still feels to me like a pool is ordered one way, and a set another, so that next/previous do opposite things.
I think I understand why.
Pools don't allow you to "customise" the order of the photos, in so far as you have no control over other peoples images. So the most you can do is add an image to the end, which makes ordering it fairly simple. "The first image added" through to the "Last image added". Previous takes you to the previously added, next to one added after the current image. To me, that makes sense
Then we get to sets. Some people order sets, and others don't. For the most part, I don't. I simply add an image to the "end" of the set when I am adding. This means I end up with roughly chronological (by uploade date) sets, and thus in my mind, they work the same as a pool. So it comes as a shock to me when I have to press "previous" to get to the image added after the current one, and "next" to get to the image added before it.
For people who order their sets, this probably makes sense, because they can tell a story on their set page that reads from left to right, top to bottom. Next in that context makes sense.
It doesn't make sense in my context though. There is a way I can work around this. When adding to sets, I can add them to the "end" of the set, instead of the beginning. But that's confusing in organizr, because to add to the end of a pool in organizr, I drag the image to the top left. I do the same thing with a set, but then it's adding to the beginning of the set.
If I use the "a" key in organizr, it all works fine, and the order is right, but given that I haven't worked that way, it's going to be a pain to reverse the order of all of my sets to make the next/previous make sense
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I wasn't sure about the last change, and some of the layout things bothered me, but now, I think this change fixes a lot of them. I LIKE the changes. Looking forward to more development. (Didn't think there was any time for that with all the keeping up with the things the users found broken or broke!) Can you give us hints on what direction we're going?
Edit: I can see the people's points about the title.. Any chance that changes in the near future will more closely associate the title and the picture?
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i'm having problems with the info being on the left. yeah it means pix can fit better but it clutters the page more. it felt better when it was on the right. and also, like ranjit said, let's have the next/prev text under the pix. superimposed looks weird.
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The more I look at this the more I dislike it. I'm convinced that the title should be above the picture. What should happen in my opinion is that whole block should be moved across into alignment with the picture (user icon / picture title / 'Taken by' / 'View different sizes' / 'Edit title, description, and tags'). Apart from the basic symmetry of picture/title, the edit commands in that block are specific to the image so would make much more sense being directly above it.
I have a hunch this would have the effect of overall balancing the page more towards the centre (which was partly the intention of the change, am I right? currently it seems over-weighted to the left).
The other thing I don't like is the 'next' / 'prev' which are permanently superimposed over the corners of the thumbnails (agree with ropeboy). I think this looks really clumsy. Couldn't those words appear underneath the thumbnails, using the faint grey type used elsewhere in that box?
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I'm glad to see 'prev' and 'next' labels but I think i'd prefer the labels under the photos rather than overlaying them.
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Steward said Actually, on web pags your eyes look center-left-right (in that order) according to eye-tracking studies. Web users' eyes have been trained to anticipate the content of the page being in the middle, flanked with navigation and ads.
Then why is the most important part of the page, the picture, on the right side - the last part my eyes want to see?
Maybe it's because pictures take so long to load, as opposed to the rest of the page? (Nothing else would make sense to me at the moment)
And why is the title separated from the picture? It looks very wrong to me, even after trying it more than "15 minutes".
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I agree with you, CWI.
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Title will defintely be over the photo soon (like, later today). That was the original intention.
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The page does appear very left-heavy now, and dissociating the title from the image is awkward.
edit: woops, I posted too soon. Looks like the ever-attentive flickrati are on the case.
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Title will defintely be over the photo soon
Hooray! (although I'm now wondering if it will create alignment problems with the stuff at the top of the page?)
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i liked the old column layout better.
i've been using the new one for for a while now and it just feels awkward when page loading.
before, the right column, title and description would "frame" an empty space where the photo would pop into, and because that space was 'framed' the whole page loading process seemed more natural.
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but the "next" and "prev" text on the thumbnails is an improvement, most definately.
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i agree, it's awkward both while the page is loading and after the page has loaded. shifting the title over the picture might make it a little less unbalanced, but it still wouldn't be an improvement over the previous layout.
i'm not a fan of the next and prev text, but it seems most people like them. i think if they have to be there, they'd look better underneath the thumbnails.
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Being very new here, and having not seen the previous version, I can't make any comparison. But I must say that the layout is easy to understand. There's a lot of functionality built in here and I think they've done a good job with the human engineering of it. Anything worthwhile takes time to learn.
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... has left the building [deleted] says:
fredden, how come you haven't seen the previous version? It was there until this very afternoon! ;-)
Did you ever click on anybody's photos?
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I'm guessing those studies tracking eyes were done on pages that were rendered as a unit. If the different parts appear at different times... how relevant are they?
Perhaps it would make sense to put a gray box "placeholder" where the photo will be rendered, to catch the eye from the start?
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I quite like the new layout. As in, definitely better than the old layout.
The superimposed navigation buttons, though...that's just a bad idea, IMHO. As the seventy three people before me said, they'd be way better off below the thumbnails. ;)
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Woo! Our pink favorites star indicator is back! And the title over the top looks much better. The attrubutions staying on the on the left look right, actually.
The only thing that threw me on this refresh was that the mail envelope shows up at the top (nice location for the account stuff) even though I don't have new mail. I'm assuming it'll change colors or something when I do get new mail...
I like it.
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Oh, hmm. I didn't realize it. Just returned to the computer. Aha. They moved things around, just like you say. Still feels the same. Damn, I knew it was a bad week to quit coffee.
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Am I the only one to notice there is no "different sizes" button?
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Our pink favorites star indicator is back!
And it says "a fave" instead of the maligned "out of faves".
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laSilvi, you're probably the first one to be told that it moved downward to the photo info block :)
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ok yeah, this newest round of changes makes it a lot more acceptable. "view different sizes" is moving around a lot these days.
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Sorry - Different Sizes + Edit link (if you're the owner) is restored, in a somewhat temporary position :)
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With the nav on the left hand side, you are reversing users when they go from photostream -> photo.
Photostream: nav on right.
Photo: nav on left.
Very bad.
And as mentioned, if eyes track center-left-right, you just screwed up the photo pages :)
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if eyes track center-left-right
The photo is supposed to be in center+right. One problem is that the left column is a bit too wide, e.g. compared to the left column in the photostream view, the tag search view, etc.
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Ohno, Different sizes is way down there? Sigh, scrolling. (Correction, with a couple groups/sets and 3 tags, it's way down there.) All that stuff in that block down there are kinda lost with the propper categorizations.. Are you saying that whole block will move to the right when you have more stuff to put over there?
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Not keen on the left alignment but I will get used to it. Definitely prefer the next/prev buttons now.
I think some of the above will be happier once the "putting all the stuff on the left is the only way it it's going to work, given upcoming changes" is done and they see the need.
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I like the smaller buddy icon. I think there will be more changes unveiled slowly.
Remember, change is good!
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I think the people making the point that, because the image doesn't usually load right away (unlike the rest of the page), ones eyes are drawn to the rest of the page, have a point.
[Lord, how's that for a sentence?]
We're still tweaking.
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I don't mind all of the nav stuff being on the left, but I think the "XXXX photos" and "View as Slideshow" is kind of distracting and takes up too much space. I'd rather see slightly larger thumbnails and move that info someplace less prominent. Maybe put the "Slideshow" below the thumbs and put total the number of photos further down under the licensing info.
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I've spent a few minutes poking around on people's photos and I have to say it feels a lot more... traditional... I think.
Starting with all the blogs, it seems like all the navigation has migrated to the right side of the page. This new layout is like totally kickin' it old school.
Having been an avid web surfer for 6+ years now and probably 5 of those having the majority of the navigation on the left, I feel very comfortable with it already.
At any rate, sounds like there's a whole bunch of other changes coming, so I'll reserve final judgement, but I thought I'd throw out my initial, positive impressions out there.
Have to agree with everybody that the superimposed 'prev' and 'next' buttons are, so far, poorly implemented if not just a plain bad idea. It looks in my browser like they aren't even flush with the corners, just the bottom and then about a pixel between the edge of the 'prev' background and the edge of the thumbnail. Close enough to make it look like an awkward mistake.
Oh - and I love the quick access to mail up at the top.
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Guys, guys, guys. Didn't you have enough work to keep you busy? Couldn't have archived something or made another graph showing network relationships?
Sometimes different is not better. Switching columns in no way improves functionality. I'm not sure who you made this transition easier for, but it wasn't the user. Everyone has explained it quite nicely already - aesthetically this does not work. And if you did it just to be able to add those little arrows......hey, let's lift the entire house up and turn it around so the nicer door is facing the street. People like M A X may like it because the new layout is "traditional" and "kickin' it old school," but if you wanted to go back a decade instead of progress and move forward, you should throw the servers out the door and boot up Windows '95.
Who at "Flickr Central" actually decides to make these changes, and considers them an improvement? I don't remember once reading that an "upgrade" was being made to benefit me.
I explained it last time as coming into work and finding the IT guy has changed your files and folders around on your computer without your knowledge, and when asked why he replies "Because."
The engineers may be running the show, but if I'm a paying user, especially of a version still in development, then it would be nice to be asked what changes I'd like to see implemented in said development.
You start pulling the "just give it time you'll get used to it" routine every time you have an itch to make the venture capitalists happy, and people are going to jump ship quicker than rats on the Titanic.
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I don't have any functionality problem with the layout.
It looks fine to me, but there is that trapped white space between the tags and the picture (I guess you could flush the text right, but that would look weird too).
on the other hand, the picture feels more anchored to me on the right than it did on the left. if we assume left-right eye movement, then the picture gives the eye something solid to stop on. before, the eye started on the picture and then kind of drifts away.
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What I'm really hoping returns are thumbnail photos of someone's other sets when I visit a photo of theirs. It gave a great quick invitation to other aspects of a person's work. I miss it tremendously.
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Ummm... could we all take a quick breather and give it oh, say, a few hours or maybe even wait to see what their end goal is? There might be something very cool coming that necessitates this.
Its obviously in a state of flux.
Remember, Stewart said:
We've spent about 200 hours on it now and think that putting all the stuff on the left is the only way it it's going to work, given upcoming changes. This way the photo is free to take up as much space as it needs.
And DRP, I'm sure you're aware of the 'Ideas' forum where new features are requested and discussed.
I'm willing to see what they come up with because, so far, all their changes have been improvements. The people at "Flickr Central" are doing their job: continuing to improve the product for all of us paying customers.
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I'll throw in my two bits about the layout changes. Quite simply the new layout feels awkward to me. Having the thumbnails on the left side makes me feel sort of cross-eyed. My eyes are focused on the right but my mouse pointer is hovering on the left which makes it feel a little weird. I feel like where my mouse is, is where I should be focused.
Also having the thumbnails on the right felt intuitive like flipping pages in a book left to right. Now I feel kinda like I'm at the back of the book flipping to the front.
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Sorry for not reading this whole thing, it's just too much, so please don't hate me if I just repeat something that has already been settled.
I don't like the colum switch either, but how about making it an option in the settings somewhere? Everyone could choose if they want it on the left or the right side. That way everyone would be happy.. :)
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Well, now the title looks better, but I'm still not liking the rest.
Has anyone tried the new layout with FlickrFox yet? If I use FlickrFox, I can only see half of the photo :(
I wouldn't mind scrolling to the right to get more info (like sets, streams and such), but now I *have to* scroll to see what I was coming on the page for to see in the first place!
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What I'm really hoping returns are thumbnail photos of someone's other sets when I visit a photo of theirs.
This is definitely returning :)
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"We've spent about 200 hours on it now and think that putting all the stuff on the left is the only way it it's going to work, given upcoming changes."
What exactly does that mean? It's the only way WHAT is going to work?
And is anyone going to clue us in as to what "upcoming changes" are going to be implemented? Or will we all discover them one day as we're looking through a friend's photos and find that someone just flipped the switch, again?
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I don't remember once reading that an "upgrade" was being made to benefit me.
You're kidding, right? Please tell me you're kidding.
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drp - is it really that traumatic?
I mean seriously - if you do find out one day - when you go to see a photo - will it really be that much more horrible than if they told you the day before that they were going to change it?
Its just a layout change. C'mon.
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Nope, I am not kidding.....at all. All I see are messages that Flickr is being "massaged" for the hundredth time, and that's it.
I sign into my home page, check my mail, post my pictures, comment on my friends' shots, admin a few groups......basically troll the entire site. I must have missed that magical place where in depth discussions are being conducted that explain these changes before they happen, especially since this is the second time I discovered an "upgrade" being made while I was surfing pics here.
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Actually, it is a bit traumatic to me, yes.
I could go into the whole psychological reason why it impacts me in such a deep way, but I won't. Suffice it to say, that photography has been a real saving grace for me. It's pulled me out of some deep anxiety and depression, and this place (Flickr) has been a big reason for me to feel like I am worth something again, after years of disabling anxiety and panic.
I get used to things, they make me feel safe. And when things change (and not in a subtle fashion), I don't feel that any more. I doubt anyone else can understand that.
Yes, change is good. I'll get used to it. I don't have a choice in the matter really, do I?
Sorry for this, but it does get me upset. I'm at least thankful I can express myself here, and that someone out there is listening.
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... has left the building [deleted] says:
um, Duane ... does the word "Beta" tell you anything? ;-)
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Well I for one would have to be paid much more than these guys are to go around and get the approval of every paying member on flickr before I made any change - before they see it mind you.
They are just doing their job, drp, and what you are asking them to do is impractical.
If its still going like this 6 mo. from now, or if the site was out of 'beta' phase, yeah... I'd start to get annoyed, but seriously - I practically live on here and its just not that big of a deal.
I can see I'm wasting my carpal tunnels, though, so I'll let it go... promise.
NOTE: I stick by it, but for what its worth, I did write this before I noticed your last reply.
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compared to some sites/communities flickr is incredibly fantastic about giving advance notice of down time and keeping users updated by an offsite page flickrblog.
and i'm not just refering to beta sites.
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It seems to me that there are tons of discussion threads about what we all prefer and that "these guys" seem to try to accomodate, perhaps in the aggregate, our wishes. I feel very responded to even it the layout isn't perfect (yet) and never will be for everyone.
I like the new layout. I'm sort of a lefty and maybe that's why I'm more comfortable with the left sided weight.
Nevertheless, I'm still waiting patiently for a way for sets to be made more central, my no. 1 flickr peeve. I have faith that this will happen. I'd put a lot of money on it and it's because Catherine and Stewart et al. listen to what we say which is a god awful lot!
"These guys" are high on my list of excellent human beings and are creating something extraordinarily wonderful. Frankly, I'm thrilled to have joined early in beta and have seen so many positive changes since then, and that's only 9 months ago! And, as Pandarine wisely raises, this IS beta and this is what beta is about ~ moving in before all the work is done and having a great deal of say about the finished product. ("finished")
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Awfully well said, hurleygurley.
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I think it works better on the right. I noticed the difference and didn't like it. Maybe because I'm right handed and work with my palettes on the right hand side.
Wonder if there is another way to test it without disrupting a comfortable workflow that 250,000 people have gotten used too?
I'd happily be part of group invited to try new ideas Flickr may want to introduce in usability studies but messing with my workflow doesn't feel right. It effects my trust in the product Beta or not.
It seems like a simple change but having to mouse allll the way over way to the left isn't working for me.
Hope that help...flickr Gods.
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Oh look.. our photos are STILL on a page as are all the options. The rest matters very little to me.
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I find the new layout very disorienting. Don't know why, but I'd vote for putting the photo back on the left.
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Hummm. After having worked a bit with some of the initial eye-track study guys (at Poynter and Stanford) I can say that those results should maybe only be thought about in relationship to stuff that existed before the web - like news - new stuff should chart its destiny without looking back.
That said, right side navigation was working because people (users and viewers) EXPECTED that from Flickr. It became part of what Flickr is. Changing that changed Flickr and maybe took away part of the uniqueness that has made it different from everything else on the web. Not a sermon, just a thought....
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Could we possibly just have an option to put it on the left or right? That way, if you like it on the right, it'll be on the right, and if you like it on the left, it'll be on the left.
Or does that increase server strain? I wouldn't think it would, but I've been suprised.
The main reason that I, personally, am finding this hard to adjust to is that the bar of options on the left seems too close to center. Also, the irregular white space gaps where tags are are sort of annoying. Maybe if everything in the control bar was right justified and all the columns where shifted to the left a little it would work better?
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The other major drawback, for me, is that this breaks rendering on the Sidekick. There's just no image at all on the individual photo page anymore.
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Duane, thanks for letting us in on why this is so traumatic for you. Explaining yourself is not something you had to do. I think it took some courage to do so. I doubt it wil help you adjust, but I still want to say that I absolutely understand. I lost 10+ years of my life to the effects of PTSD and even minor changes in my life seemed huge and disorienting. All I can offer is hope that you can anchor in on the fact that the photos and the people are still here.
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Photos on the left? What the heck are you guys all yammering about?
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Hahaha.. the new logo popped up and i nearly had a heart attack. I thought something went fruity with my browser.
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What the???
Did it just flip back?
Noooo, I liked the photos on the right. I hope I wasn't in the minority!
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*BLINK BLINK* WHOAH who took our nice simple logo!? That's a cacackaphophony!
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Flickr admin are awesome.
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aww. i'm with snowsara. i liked it better the way you had it at like 6pst when i got home. but i'm not complaining. just an "aww jeez".
loved that you took the prev and next and put them underneath. thanks!
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Just wanted to prove that the people who like it are silent and the people who hate it speak out ;)
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i like the new way, which is now the old way
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*cackle* You're MEAN Stewart! *laugh*
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i can get used to the new layout, but the new flickr logo has got to go! annoying.
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OK, now you're just playing with us...
The photo is back on the left.
Where the hell's my valium?
8-o
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The only thing missing now is a photo of the ludicorpreals expressing how they feel about the new photo page!
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I for one like it, it took me a whole ONE photo to get use to it.
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Ack, change it back!! I want photos on the right!!!
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OK, serious: who wants photos on the right? Put up your hand?
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Seriously. I do! *puts hand up*
EDIT: On second thought...I'm fine with it either way. Assuming, of course, that the current layout doesn't get in the way of future features.
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I actually liked 'em on the right :-P
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I'm with you on the right.. If only for the improvement of the look of the portrait mode pictures.
(oh oh, I'm slacking...)
*puts right hand up for right*
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*Puts his hand on the ground*
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Column switch sucks. Photo is better on the left. Text on right.
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What I'd really really like is for one of those streams of characters to follow my cursor around... perhaps it could say 'my friend flickr'.
;-)
whispers -'left please' in a serious voice.
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I wanted a pony, but you already gave me one.
AND pretty little text links under the thumbnails. YAY!
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Oh, yea, I neglected to notice those under links, I've been yacking too much! Woohoo, pristine thumbs!!
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The new previous/next buttons are perfect! I love you, Ludicorp! :D
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who wants photos on the right?
I'm fine with either.
Posted 88 months ago.
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photos on the RIGHT
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right was good, i don't know why
but then if you choose left i'll still stay
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flickr's doing the hokey-pokey
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I'm new to all this, but my 'pony request' is _definitely_ what we've got now (that is, 10:52pm Seattle time) -- photo on the left, sidebar on the right.
First reason: I read left-to-right, therefore I generally expect the most important stuff to be towards the left (studies be damned...but even if we go with the studies, wouldn't most [landscape, at least] photos be wide enough to occupy the 'center' of the layout, even if the photo's left-justified?).
Second reason: Because of the first reason, I've set up my site with the sidebar on the right...that also seems to be the default setup for most new weblogs these days (Wordpress's 'Kubrick' layout, many [most?] Movable Type templates, etc.), so that's what I'm used to. And, of course, it's all about me.
So that's my pony. :)
Wherever things end up, though, I _love_ the current logo. ;)
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I'm sure I would have adjusted to photos being on the right, but I like them back on the left. djwudi touches on an interesting point about most blog setups, including mine, featuring main content on the left and links, Flickr buttons, etc. on the right. For what it's worth, I think the thumbnails were just a tad too large and eye-catching to put in the left sidebar ... just seemed to push the page as a whole slightly out of balance.
On the flip side, the new logo, quite entertaining.
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Stewart - I'm tempted to raise my hand - but honestly I wish I knew what else was in the plans, because it might affect the outcome.
I'm definitely fine with either. Slight edge goes to 'photo on right.'
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