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strange...
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And no acknowledgement of copyright either. Posting my Flickr name does not meet the requirements of the copyright status of my photos and my photos were on the site.
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there also is a lot of the stuff which flickr make efforts to keep private here.
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Whoever is running it is most certainly going to get their Flickr API key deleted fairly quickly. None of the photos link back to Flickr... and Flickr isn't even mentioned anywhere on the site. Talk about stealing bandwidth and photos!
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If I type my name then they are showing photos made by me with the comment that I posted them.... NOT.
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that is what I found at whois.sc:
FLICKLE.COM
Website Title: Flickle
Response Code: 200
SSL Cert: invega.com expires in 94 days
Alexa Trend/Rank: Not directly ranked but is
0 (1 Month) 0 (3 Month)
Website Status: Active
Reverse IP: Web server hosts 864 websites (reverse ip tool requires free login)
Server Type: Apache/1.3.33 (Unix) mod_auth_passthrough/1.8 mod_log_bytes/1.2 mod_bwlimited/1.4 PHP/4.3.11 FrontPage/5.0.2.2635 mod_ssl/2.8.22 OpenSSL/0.9.7a
(Spry.com also uses Apache)
IP Address: 63.246.133.75 (ARIN & RIPE IP search)
IP Location: - United Colocation Group Inc
Blacklist Status: Clear
Record Type: Domain Name
Monitor: Monitor or Backorder
Wildcard search: 'flickle' or 'flick le' in all domains.
Other TLDs: .com .net .org .info .biz .us
X [5 available domains]
Name Server: NS1.PISHOGUE.COM NS2.PISHOGUE.COM
ICANN Registrar: GO DADDY SOFTWARE, INC.
Created: 30-sep-2005
Expires: 30-sep-2006
Status: REGISTRAR-LOCK
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Registrant:
Teo Ang Tan
Peti Surat 116
Pusat Mel Batu Pahat
Batu Pahat, Johor 83000
Malaysia
Registered through: GoDaddy.com
Domain Name: FLICKLE.COM
Created on: 29-Sep-05
Expires on: 30-Sep-06
Last Updated on: 29-Sep-05
Administrative Contact:
Tan, Teo Ang
Peti Surat 116
Pusat Mel Batu Pahat
Batu Pahat, Johor 83000
Malaysia
(012) 748-8000 Fax --
Technical Contact:
Tan, Teo Ang
Peti Surat 116
Pusat Mel Batu Pahat
Batu Pahat, Johor 83000
Malaysia
(012) 748-8000 Fax --
Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.PISHOGUE.COM
NS2.PISHOGUE.COM
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thanks monkey magic! what is flickle?! as i was browsing that site i typed my name and my photos are there too!!!
it's horrible!
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Coo...
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It appears they are either abusing an API key or exploiting a cache server directly. The photos are indeed hosted by flickr, but it's a direct cache url and not one that provides any photographer url data.
The text-ads also indicate they are simply trying to churn a profit by re-skinning a flickr tags interface.
Also everyone please take a look at www.slide.com. I found several of their categories had been seeded by flickr photos. I wasn't postitive about how abusive they were being but I got a general dislike for the way attribution was being handled there too.
As an example this category (wallpapers) sucks every photo tagged "cameratoss".
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even if I changed the visibility of my photos on Flickr (I changed to only friends and family), they stay on flickle!
Posted 79 months ago.
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I don't like it one bit.
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Whoever is running it is most certainly going to get their Flickr API key deleted fairly quickly.
this assumes that they aren't just scraping the site.
i actually kind of like the idea of a site that showcases people and tags and pushing away a lot of the noise.
but LINK BACK for crying out pete's sake! not only are they breaking the TOS, they aren't properly attributing at all.
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what the hell?? my photos are in there too...shit---surely as we are paying to be members here we deserve some answers right?? how do we get in contact with the website administration? this is ridiculous. sebastian.
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It does push away a lot of the noise, but also a lot of the protection - their "popularity" take on interestingness shows a lot of the NIPSA stuff Flickr does a good job of hiding from public view.
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When I searched on my name, other people's pictures came up.
Posted 79 months ago.
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Same here James, very odd.
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Jon Bon Jovi [deleted] says:
OMG! Help! I put my photos on flickr and now they're on the internet!!
How can this happen?
I'm disgusted. Flickr staff should make sure that their photos don't go on the internet. Immediately!
Posted 79 months ago.
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If I type my name then they are showing photos made by me with the comment that I posted them.... NOT.
The format makes me think they just snatch RSS feeds.
Posted 79 months ago.
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I don't think most people understand that once your Flickr photo is out there, even if you change it to private if someone has grabbed the URL it will still display.
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is this really that big of a deal? i mean i am sure there was no harm intended and it is not like they are selling the individual photos. they just really must like the site and wanted to show them in an alternative way. I suspect this thread has given them more hits today than they have gotten period. I seached for myself and found a few. i thought it was pretty funny... plus i think they go by tags not rss feeds.
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The big deal is twofold.
For me, it's about attribution. I don't ask for money, just fame. I put a lot of time and effort into my poorly framed pictures, and the least one could do is to acknowledge my efforts and properly attribute. If somebody likes my pictures, I would like them to see more of my work. And it's a violation of the CC license I use, if I'm not mistaken.
For flickr, it's all about stolen bandwith.
Only found one of my pics linked there, so not as upsetting. But still mildly upsetting. I too seek guidance on the proper channels to complain to.
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well actually it is a big deal - if they are displaying other people's images without proper link back and attributes, it amounts to nothing less than stealing! I'm not the least bit happy about it.
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When I typed my nickname, i saw ten photos of mine, the last ones i posted on flickr, plus an ad: my most recent photo posted being a harbour in northern corsica was surrounded by these words: LUXURY VILLAS, HOTEL RENTING, ADS BY GOOGLE, followed by links to the rental sites!!!
It's not just stealing, how do you name this??
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musicorso, its names are "bad taste" and "no class" and "disrespect."
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I think it's much more than that, it is a commercial use of a private property (that site wrongly states that i posted it, as if i had posted it on flickle); i am totally ignorant of legal matters, but i wonder if something can and must be done about this abuse. I guess everyone here in flickr may suffer this outrage: ideas anybody?
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Shane Clements(¢ħ@¢ħ@¢ħ@1000) [deleted] says:
hMmM... d035n'7 533m 70 p@r$3 MuL7IbY735 700 w3lL. gU3$5 7H@7 5@v35 My bUtT!
Posted 79 months ago.
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What?
Try again in a recognised language. Preferably English.
Posted 79 months ago.
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translation: "doesn't seem to ... ... ... guess that saves my butt."
damn i'm getting too old for that, some words are missing.
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"hmmm... doesn't seem to parse multibytes too well. Guess that saved my butt!"
In reference to the username, I would presume.
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We need a Leet Speak translator here!
Thank you Matt
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jfvo edited this topic 79 months ago.
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Flickle is also "lazy", "irresponsible" and "just plain stupid".
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I thought it was 1337-speak.
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*eSThER* posted this photo..??????
I didn't post anything $#%#$% :(.
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Doesn't it take ages to work out how to 7YP£ like that?
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N07 if J00 U53 4 7R4N5L470r
www.jayssite.com/stuff/l33t/l33t_translator.html
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phinAlLY! 7hANx a l07!
:-)
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H77P://wWw.J4ySs173.C0m/s7UfF/l337/l337_7r4nsl470R.h7ML
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Try as I might I couldn't find one of my photos...I'm a little bit miffed about this. What, my photos aren't good enough for you FLickle?
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They will be earning money via adsense
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We're looking into it ...
-/\/
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This will be taken care of momentarily.
Posted 79 months ago.
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thank you Stewart.
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And ... now they are blocked from serving images. We'll look into it more.
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I see a bunch of question marks for most of the photos there now, anyone else see this?
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ah, thanks stewart.
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Ah, yes... now nothing but the ubiquitous red x.
Posted 79 months ago.
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he he! serves them right ;)
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You know, months ago I did a search on my name and came up with that strange flickl site. I couldn't figure out what it was, so I just assumed (I know, I know!) that it was some kind of subsidiary or offshoot of flickr. Legitimate. Or legitimate enough.
Now I really wish I had asked. Sorry everyone. :(
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thanks flickr for dealing with this problem!
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Just looked for any of my photos and found a couple, but there were also a lot of others shown with which I have no connection. Some of them looked porno to me and I should not want to be assiciated with them.
Posted 79 months ago.
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Marco Wessel:
The format makes me think they just snatch RSS feeds.
That's exactly what I was thinking while looking at the site just before I saw your post.
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I'm sorry to have to report that the problem is not dealt with yet: the front page is full of question marks on blue squares, but try and type your nick as i just did - well some of my photos still appear, with my name, and the same links as before! Guess i'm not the only one.
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musicorso- The photos you see are probably cached, which is why they are displayed. Clear your cache and try again. I just saw a contacts image on the front page of that site, but that is only because it's displayed on my home Flickr page and thus has been cached on my computer.
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It makes a great movie, right now, all those question-marks lineing up on that site!
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dooda:
Try as I might I couldn't find one of my photos...I'm a little bit miffed about this. What, my photos aren't good enough for you FLickle?
Mine were not there either. Could be because neither you nor I are allowing the All Sizes to Flickr members. At least I allow download of original to contacts and I'm presuming that everyone that has spotted their pictures on that site have allowed download of originals for members which most people do. This may be a clue to follow, but, not sure where it leads.
Incidentally, the search feature is no longer on that site.
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Hi Canopus Archives,
that's not the case (the view all sizes thing).
Mine are on that site too and my all sizes are restricted to F&F.
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I moved... [deleted] says:
well I cleared my cache and everything else that firefox lets you clear and the site looks no different. no question marks, loads of photos and the search function still there via the people tag.
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I'm getting nothing but marching question marks...
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I moved... [deleted] says:
searched for stewart on the site and came up with this just a few minutes ago. "great shot" catrina!
Posted 79 months ago.
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Mine are on that site too and my all sizes are restricted to F&F.
Aha! So it's one of Mimsy's friends or relatives behind the nefarious site! I say we tickle her until she tells us who it is!
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well, they are a pretty dodgy bunch, my F&F's.
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Tickle tickles while flickr pickles flickle in a twinkle!
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how fickle!
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Aha! So it's one of Mimsy's friends or relatives behind the nefarious site! I say we tickle her until she tells us who it is!
oh yogi, you're such a CARD!
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Interesting monaxle, I wonder how the images are getting loaded. static.flickr.com generates this message for me when trying to pull an image referenced directly from that site:
Access Denied.
Access control configuration prevents your request from being allowed at this time. Please contact your service provider if you feel this is incorrect.
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@kevin: thanks for the tip but it did not work; clearing caches makes no difference: the search feature leads to same = lots of question marks but still many of my photos available, with links to commercial or sex sites (!!); makes me real angry!
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MimsyBee:
that's not the case (the view all sizes thing).
Mine are on that site too and my all sizes are restricted to F&F.
Well bang goes that theory 8¬)
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weird shit. check this out too
www.elgoog.com
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musicorso:
I'm not even seeing the search box. Could this be your IP's cache?
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@Canopus Archives: on their front page, click on "people" (top left), it leads to a second page with a search box.
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Internet Sucks:
your link didn't work.
but I google'd elgoog and found it here:
elgoog.rb-hosting.de/index.cgi
;)
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Still not getting anything.
Search: musicorso
Centuri
musicorso posted a photo:
A small fishermen harbour in northern Corsica, before it turned pizza.
All the images are blocked. Not one popped up.
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As soon as I clicked on the People link the page came up with both photos and red xs. The page is about 50% full at present and every refresh seems to re-arrange them slightly.
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@kevin: well it's clean with firefox; usually i'm using safari, where images still show; guess i'll have to re-initialize it; thanks for your help anyway.
Posted 79 months ago.
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I'm using Safari as well. Very odd.
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I found some photos of mine on www.slide.com, uploaded by some user named "Wing" and tagged with "@flickr" (e.g., a group of photos labeled "Kittens@flickr"). I'm unamused enough to go through the hoops they require to complain about copyright infringment. I've also recognized other people's photos, and I'll probably tell them about it also.
Slide, sucks, though. I was doing a keyword search for "cat"--it tries to load all photos or "slide shows" that match, completely wedging my IE. Ha ha! Lamers. Here's a link to the keyword search page...interesting that they use the term "tag" too.
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meowhous edited this topic 79 months ago.
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hehe - elgoog was the thing that sprang to my mind too!
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interesting that they use the term "tag" too.
not really.
del.icio.us was using 'tags' well before flickr. it is a pretty common term these days.
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I'm finding that if I now click on a thumbnail on fickle the image doesn't come up, just more thumbnails come up. We could be seeing the remains of the site's cache.
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Yes, but Slide is using the same tags I have on those particular photos for Flickr.
Here's a good one:
krypto.slide.com/c/Flickr+-+Catchy+Colors/467266
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Originally posted 79 months ago.
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_sarchi edited this topic 79 months ago.
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Yes, but Slide is using the same tags I have on those particular photos for Flickr.
yes, and all of those photos link back to flickr photo pages like they are supposed to.
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sarchi, that photo isn't up on flickle anymore.
i mean i could sit here and post the slew of my own photos that they were mirroring, but that have since been blocked .. but i doubt that would accomplish much.
Posted 79 months ago.
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Take a look at this link from Slide. They say "Make any picture a Wallpaper"
wallpaper.slide.com/
There's thousands of photos from Flickr here.
Specifically -- Flowers Wallpaper & Camera Toss Wallpaper
Posted 79 months ago.
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I moved... [deleted] says:
striatic - a minute or so ago. am I seeing stuff that your not? Cache cleared - no ? marks. Perhaps some have been blocked but these do not appear to have been. What do you reckon?
Posted 79 months ago.
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That alternate-universe striatic looks grumpier.
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monaxle - we are blocking on the basis of referrer. Are you using some crazy browser?
Posted 79 months ago.
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I moved... [deleted] says:
nope just firefox v 1.0.7
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Firefox can turn off referrer sending, too.
Anyway I'm looking through the site. I think it's some sort of tag-linking thing. It's just not very good about linking back to flickr.
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I moved... [deleted] says:
well here's a thing - when I try the site using the browser in feeddemon I get all the X's that other people are talking about. When I try it using MS IE (v 6.blah) I get all the pictures again no problem.
What does referrer blocking mean?
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Every time you access a URL, your browser sends a header (the "Referer" header, yes it's misspelled in the http spec), with the url of where you accessed that url from. So if you load an image from www.flickr/com/, your browser also sends a header in its request, stating: 'Referer: http://www.flickr.com/'. The same applies to links you click on. This is the standard behaviour. It can be modified of course. Some browsers offer a setting, others need a plug-in or extension. An alternative is to use a proxy to filter it out.
And on the server side, you can use that info to decide if you want to serve certain content.
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Marco Wessel edited this topic 79 months ago.
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I've clicked around in all of my browsers and have only seen one photo load, so it looks like Stewart and the gang are doing a good job at blocking.
Whoever's behind Flickle will really give up if he or she is unable to get any ad revenue, and I'm pretty sure Google doesn't want their ads on this kind of site. Their AdSense policies can be found here. Thanks to the blocking, Flickle violates this item:
Site Functionality
Your site must not contain broken links and must be launched, functioning, and easily navigable.
[Edit]
I have reported this to Google, so I removed the link to their contact page to avoid duplicate reports.
Originally posted 79 months ago.
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Wysz edited this topic 79 months ago.
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I just found one of my cat pictures! Edit....I found three so far ...Tippi..Dinkysu...Pookins..And Five pictures of Beadwork...
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QuetiQuati@OKC edited this topic 79 months ago.
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back to slide.com topic...
So is just a link back to the flickr page sufficient attribution for Creative Commons (By) license? I would think not, it does meet the "share-alike" aspect of some of the other licenses, but that is only one requirement met, not all of them.
Also many of us choose a "non-commercial" variant of the licensing scheme, of which slide is definitely NOT.
My main beef with slide is that the desktop application you can download allows you to set a desktop background without ever proceeding to any of flickr pages that display attribution and or licensing.
Edit... one more thought. The inclusion of my photos in a slide category that I did not place them in myself, permitting scrolling display on their desktop applications... to me is an example of a derivative work, something many of our licenses prohibit.
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clickykbd edited this topic 79 months ago.
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A link back to flickr doesn't meet the CC license requirements. Also, the license name has to be displayed and the commons deed (and hence full license) linked to under the terms of many (all?) CC licenses.
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Have a voice! Go to the page and click on the link that says 'ads by google' then you can click the link that says ' Send Google your thoughts on the ads you just saw' and leave feedback about the website displaying the ads.
Posted 79 months ago.
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@missakins
good idea. I just did that for flickle.
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Same here... I just did that for flickle, too.
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So - been browsing over at slide and there are tons, hundreds, thousands of flickr photos without appropriate permission nor attribution. In addition to specific individuals' flickr photos appropriately added to slide by that individual, there are general slide shows for flickr interestingness, flickr bugs (insects), flickrcentral, flickr babes, flickr weddings, flickr flowers, etc.
www.slide.com/tags?tag_search=flickr
I don't understand yet how it works exactly, but lots of flickr member photos appear to be designated as 'owned' or 'uploaded' by non-flickr slide members.
Is this in compliance with flickr TOU? It seems not, despite the links back to flickr. Looks like the flickr honchos need to have a chat with the slide honchos...
Does someone with a bigger brain than mine care to parse this?
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I actually know someone at Slide and I'll get in touch and see if I can get them in here :)
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