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Good on ya! I've been checking the used market closely since the new IS L lens came out. and i haven't noticed too many more of the old non-IS versions on the used market. surprising, and disappointing since more supply means lower cost.
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I ordered mine from KEH this morning for $100 less than brand new... I want to go to sleep for 3 days so that I can wake up on Thursday. Getting a new lens is like waking up on christmas morning, except that you have to pay for it... I hate being a grown up sometimes :)
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Dulgee -- I would think so as well. Maybe the new Macro lens is developing an interest in Macro in general so any olders ones are being picked up for half (or less) of the L.
Just paced my order, should have it on Tuesday as I sold mine to a budding photographer relative.
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that's one reason why I prefer to buy at my local store, if possible.
Nothing wrong with the old one.. but I would never have gotten this shot:
Exposure:0.013 sec (1/80)
Aperture:f/11.0
Focal Length:100 mm
ISO Speed:800
Exposure Bias:0 EV
Flash:On, Fired
with the old one... I couldn't have been holding the camera more wrong... way out at the end of my arms, finding focus by looking for the little red box in the viewfinder ...
and yes, I need to clean my sensor...
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Yeah, i guess I'm looking more for a 75% price drop (i could dream). not too much left in the budget for photography this year. got a bunch of cheap Chinese nick nacks... (nick nacks add up if you get enough of them)
ahhh, 3 days of sleep sounds good, and unattainable with a sub 1 year old in the house who insists on 5:30AM being wakie time!
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I tested my friend's 100mm macro (non-IS) for about 2 straight days, and I really liked it. The price tag of the new IS macro is really daunting... especially since I just got the 1D mk II and a 2nd 580 EX II.
That is a great butterfly shot though! Love those wings!
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dulgee: which nick nacks did you get?
i'm thinking of getting a cheapo ring flash adapter nick nack thingy from china...
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dulgee [deleted] says:
hmm, lets see... a lens hood for my 17-55 >$4, a yn-460 manual flash ~$40, tripod ring for the 70-200 - $7, flash diffuser soft-box - $3, small plastic diffuser - $2.50, multi-card reader - $1.90
and a couple of not so cheap nick nacks like 2 hoya DMC pro-1 CPL filters 67mm and 77mm
I had ordered a sigma dedicated flash, but canceled the order when i realized it was not the one I wanted (wanted the 530 super with ir wireless master/slave. the one i ordered was without ir wireless).
I think some "poverty wizard" triggers are next on the cheapo list.
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I had a set of the poverty wizards... never worked well for me. I finally got some 'real' triggers - this set is from Flash Wave, and it's never misfired, though I haven't gone farther than my yard with it...
Don't forget the stands and some weights to keep the whole thing from falling over... I got some leg weights from Tuesday Morning for $4... 5lbs each for two stands...
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dulgee [deleted] says:
i plan on mostly ad-hock and DIY setups for now. a little gaffers tape and some improv is the next best thing to real equipment i think.
the triggers i got actually got some decent reviews on the strobist group, and for $25 for 1 trans and 1 rec, i could afford to test it out.
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The trigger I had would fire my 540, but not my 580.. and after a while, it stopped firing that. I got rid of it. If the one you find works for you, that's fantastic, as you're more than 1/2 way done...
Though, we're drifting off topic.
To bring this back to topic, I decided to NOT put the triggers on, and mount the flash directly to the camera this weekend when shooting flowers with this lens... the flash has a seal on the foot, and I don't worry about a light rain, which is what we had (ok, didn't worry about it, and tried it out.. worked great through the rain)...
Exposure: 0.006 sec (1/160)
Aperture: f/5.6
Focal Length: 100 mm
ISO Speed: 800
Exposure Bias: 0 EV
Flash: On, Fired
Exposure: 0.006 sec (1/160)
Aperture: f/10.0
Focal Length: 100 mm
ISO Speed: 800
Exposure Bias: 0 EV
Flash: On, Fired
Yes, it really was raining as I shot these. All shots from that day are hand held.
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I have a set of cybersyncs. They are inexpensive and very reliable... I plan on using them heavily for the macro stuff and getting my flashes off camera.
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I love this lens.
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A showcase of the lens (from a Chinese blog)
www.photofans.cn/forum/showthread.php?forumid=55&thre...
This will make a fine walkaround/street photography lens too if you are into that sort of thing. I am seriously considering this as my next purchase.
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I'm not worried about the bokeh of this lens...
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www.timnosenzo.com/Other/Gear/8300985_sY7Je/1/#660248738_...
This is a video showing the AF speed difference between 135mmf2 & the new 100mm Macro. The verdict? Owners of the 135 can rest easy ;-)
Having said that the new Macro is quick enough for general purpose, just not for heavy duty sports
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Quick, dumb question about the new 100mm L Macro: with the manual/auto switch left on AF, can you make manual adjustments by rotating the focus ring, or will that damage the motor and you should really switch to MF for that? Thanks.
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dulgee [deleted] says:
full time manual focusing is in the spec, so you can adjust the manual focus ring while in af mode.
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dulgee [deleted] says:
Question, spec for IS at 1:1 is 2 stops. how does it perform with tubes?
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The IS?
You tell me:
There's softness in the shot, and that's to be expected, with the lens at f/32... but, the IS seems to work well, even with 68mm of tubes in place.
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yeah, doesnt look to be shake related. looks nice!
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I couldn't think of a tougher test... except maybe one with 'natural' light.... in that case, while it was hand held, I used a studio strobe so I *could* use f/32 ... that means that any shake wouldn't be visible anyway. Hmm.. maybe I need a better test with tubes in place.
The mantis shots I did were all hand held, as well.
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It took me some time to digest that video, ... something didn't seem right.
What's different is the scale. On the 135, a full twist moves you from min to max focus. The video shows that this moves really fast.
On the 100L, though, it seems to move slowly on the video... yet my experience through the viewfinder showed that in the restricted reach mode, it felt rather snappy. How is this possible? The answer is that you don't have to twist the ring to go from 2ft to infinity.. it's closer to 1/2 or 1/4 of a turn. Sheesh. It seems to move slower, but the lens elements are covering a HUGE distance internally, and it snaps into focus quickly. I do think the 135L is a bit faster, but not by the amount that the video leads you to believe.
Could someone with a video camera and a body that can do live view focusing without flipping up the screen try to capture this? I can't do that with my current camera, as the back goes black when I hit AF... or if someone would be kind enough to loan me their 5DMII?? :-)))
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Has anyone attempted to couple this with 2X Kenko Extender ?
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Do you have one I could borrow?
Since I don't have one... I did put my extension tubes on, and reversed my 50mm to get this:
Camera:Canon EOS 40D
Exposure:0.008 sec (1/125)
Aperture:f/32.0
Focal Length:100 mm
ISO Speed:1250
Exposure Bias:0 EV
Flash:Did fire, despite what the EXIF says...(Interfit 300ws @ almost full power, bare bulb)
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@Bold: that's really up close & personal. No, I don't have a Kenko Ext but folks from other forums are suggesting to use it with the new 100mm Macro
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Rats. I have no more photography cash for a while - and the next purchase in line is a light meter...
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dulgee [deleted] says:
Official Review from the-digital-picture.com is out:
www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Canon-EF-100mm-f-2.8-...
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Another review from DP Review
www.dpreview.com/lensreviews/canon_100_2p8_is_usm_c16/
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With 68mm of tubes, more or less SOOC, including the nasty dust dots...
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Ok, folks - this weekend, I put the new lens through one of the toughest conditions I could think of - a dog show. I teamed up with another photographer, and my job (and specialty) is shooting action in the rings (as opposed to the win shots - my timing is still off on getting those right).
Now, I don't have any of the almost 10,000 photos I took as I was on contract, and used her cards, which got dumped immediately after each event. I also took some shots with my 50mm and my 135L, which has been feeling a bit neglected and left out since the new lens came to town.
My 135L is THE standard for indoor action work. It's beautiful, sharp, makes gorgeous bokeh, and most importantly, it's a f/2 lens which is usually needed in the lighting I'm in. Yesterday and today started off foggy here, and got brighter later in the day. I had to shoot at f/2.8, ISO1600 and around 1/160 to 1/200 to get a decent exposure.
(For those interested, I used manual mode the entire day. Black dogs, white dogs, different color dogs all throw off the meter, so I meter off of the mat or a human, and adjust from there... boy, do I need a light meter!)
I was interested in comparing AF speed, locking ability, how often it missed, how well it tracked dogs coming at me and how well it stayed on a subject tracking across the frame (as I panned to follow). Since I don't have the files for direct comparison, I can't say for 100% sure... however, it sure seemed that the 100mm macro found and locked on targets about as fast as the 135L, maybe a little slower. It did have trouble in the corners of the building, where the lighting was the least, and the contrast of black/brown dogs is very low. My 135L still locks tight onto eyes where the macro had a tougher time.
In the ring, the macro didn't seem challenged any more than the 135 was... and the mistakes it made were likely my fault, or possibly the limits of the AF in my 40D. Boy, I can't wait until I get my paws around the 1DMIV... but that's another story. The other thing is - for the bigger dogs, it gave me better framing relative to the 135L, where I had to stand much further back to get the whole dog in the frame. For the smaller dogs, the 135L was a much better choice (and if I had a zoom, something in the 180-200mm range would be great... but you all know I'd have a tough time buying one of those).
So, nothing like taking and using a new/unproven lens for a paying gig that's outside of the intended usage for that lens!
I'm very pleased.
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Wow. Thanks for sharing this, Bernard. It's good to know that Canon's lenses (the L's especially) can be used for more than one purpose, even when it's a dedicated specialty lens.
I can't wait to get my hands on this lens at some point.....Santa?
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I guess time for me to pipe in about what I think about the best lens I've ever used.
I use this lens primarily on the 5Dmk2 and have been just so impressed by the depth of field control and the fact that I can occasionally handhold this for macro. Stick it on a tripod in mirror up mode and it's very very, did I say very sharp. I also tried it on the 50D and it's also very nice in that combination with some extra magnification due to the crop factor.
On the 5DmkII I treat it as a walk around lens. So much so now that I'm getting rid of my 24-105L which I rarely use. Works great as a portrait, product, of course macro and lately I've been using it for landscape. By using a panoramic set-up with parallax correction, this lens is a fantastic lens to use for stitching panoramas with almost no distortion. Of course spending hours behind a computer processing dozens of shots isn't what I'd recommend for any photographer. My 17-40 is still far more practical for wide angle shooting.
I've also given this lens a couple of tests with the video mode on the 5DmkII and it handles very well. IS will drain your battery pretty quickly, but I get some great short telephoto wide aperture video shooting with it. Comparing it to the 24-105L, I've found the 100L more practical (especially the F/2.8 with IS) than the zoom. In my opinion if you're thinking of getting the 5Dmk2, don't get the bundle with the 24-105L - get it with this lens instead.
If I was to criticize it for one point being that it is an L lens, I'm annoyed that it didn't come with a tripod ring mount. Granted this lens is very light, but if you plan to put this onto a Gimbal type mount you'll want to have the tripod ring. I modified another ring I have to make it work for the time being and there's a minor difference in using it with a tripod mount. I use a focusing rail as well and when it's mounted on the tripod ring, it's better balanced. When using it for stitched panoramic shots, the nodal point of the lens appears to be approximately behind the focusing ring which makes me even more incensed that it wasn't included. Although the IS works pretty good, for macro work I still prefer it on a tripod. This is a very minor point for me.
Last word. If you want to shoot on a FF camera, I actually believe this lens is almost the perfect walk around lens (at least for me it is). Unless you do a lot of wide angle shooting when walking around, don't spend the money on the 24-105, but get this lens instead (if you do mix a lot of wide angle with your walk around shooting then get the 24-70 F/2.8).
My latest shot with this lens:
Exposure:1/3 sec
Aperture:f/7.1
Focal Length:100 mm
ISO Speed:100
Exposure Bias:0 EV
Flash: Dual Hot Lamps with 5700K True Daylight 1600 lumen Cameron CFL bulbs.
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Thanks for that review, KD - that mirrors my thoughts on this lens, though I'm shooting crop with it. Dog shows, portraits, macros, even a football game ... this is indeed a very versatile lens!
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BIF shot taken by BoldPuppy (see link) has convinced me that the new 100mm Macro IS is closest thing to a perfect general purpose lens from Canon. It is a fantastic Macro lens that is also a very good portrait lens, a good action lens, and now a decent BIF lens. Now bring on Canon 180mm Macro IS already.
www.flickr.com/photos/boldpuppy/4066103589/
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that particular shot was akin to taking shots of groceries moving on a belt. The wind was very stiff and my daughter was throwing bread for the birds. The birds didn't need to do much to stay alight, and I could get very close without freaking the birds out.
THIS shot: www.flickr.com/photos/boldpuppy/4060269073/ was a more realistic BIF shot... no wind, it was moving fast and wanted nothing to do with me. Plus, the light was very low (just after o'dark thirty) and there was less contrast than usual to work with.
(Grin) ... just want you to point to the shot that was harder, technically, to pull off .. the first one was really too easy.
What's of interest to me in the first shot is the CA -- or lack of it.
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The photos from the show I shot are being uploaded. If you want to see them, FM me for the web address/password, and I'll send that along. You will need to provide a valid email address (where my partner's system will send you spam ... :-) ... at least until you opt out).
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Im late adding to this thread, I know..
But its an AWESOME lens, and Im sooooo happy I got it!
I love macro work, and I was slightly worried the depth of field wouldnt be shallow enough for me - but I never had to worry... its just beaaaaautiful!
Most of the shots in this set are taken with it:
This is full frame:
[http://www.flickr.com/photos/erinna/4117454482/]
And this is at 100%
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We've also started a gallery for this lens - why don't you post some of this great work there, too?
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I just found this out, maybe everyone who owns this lens knew this.. I sure didn't
Image stabilization
• Hybrid IS
• 4 stops
• 3 stops at 0.5x magnification
• 2 stops at 1.0x magnification
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Just get a hold of this lens. Everything looks good to me the build, the image quality except the focusing. Not that it's not swift or accurate. It seems to stop focusing when I change the focus limiter from close-focus to normal range (0.5-inf). I have to manually turn the ring to get an approximation of focus then it will snap into focus again. Is this a common thing with this kind of lens or do I get a lemon? I see this happening with 100-400mm I rented when there is a drastic change in focusing distance
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That seems to happen to me - the first time. If you're reasonably close, it snaps on. If you're grossly off, it wanders...
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I don't know if its just me, but I find the best way to use this lens regarding the focus issue is to focus manually.
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"It is practically a faultless lens. .."
www.lenstip.com/214.11-Lens_review-Canon_EF_100_mm_f_2.8L...
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Does anyone use this lens for sports related photography such as martial arts, indoor volley ball etc? Never owned a macro lens before but I'm thinking of picking this one up within a few weeks.
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If you use the focus limiter in the non macro range the autofocus is always very fast. In the macro range the lens can be so far out of focus that the sensor has no idea in which direction it should turn the lens. But I think the autofocus should start earlier to hunt for the focus under those conditions.
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I've shot this lens indoors in poor light (american football at dusk and a few indoor dog shows), and if there isn't enough contrast, it will indeed hunt. Once it finds focus, it can track objects nicely, but for indoor work, I'd choose the 135L instead...
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I agree with BP about indoors in poor light, however I did try it with the ST-E2 on my camera (or you can use a speedlite flash with the flash disabled) and used the focus assist which worked very well for subjects at 25 ft. Anything beyond that, the AF assist lamp becomes less reliable and longer to get focus lock.
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That red light could be distracting to competitors, and in most indoor competitive environments, they'll ask you to turn it off... and back to ground zero!
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Yeah, shooting high school stuff, they always tell me that I can't use the flash, although there have been ref's who will allow it on "low power" as they say.
Almost all indoors stuff has to be done flashless though.
I can't wait for soccer to start at school to try the 100L out with sports. Should be interesting.
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Thanks for the feedback guys =) I've gone and put down my deposit for the lens and will be picking it up this coming Monday. Hope it's not too long on a crop body.
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I just saw this lens listed for $884.00. Wasn't it $1000.00 when it first came out?
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Yes it was $1000.00 when it first came out and now the price has been dropped to $884.00
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This may be a silly question, but does the IS work with extension tubes? I ask because I just got a set of extension tubes from Kenko and this lens next on my wishlist.
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$884 is a great deal, but I believe that price is only to the end of the month so if you were coveting this lens, now is the time to get it. I paid $1,000 CAD for mine and used my discount to get it down from the $1,100 CAD that it is normally at.
Der Wats said: “This may be a silly question, but does the IS work with extension tubes? I ask because I just got a set of extension tubes from Kenko and this lens next on my wishlist. ”
Yes it works fine. I've used all three sizes at the same time and the IS works.
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Provided you got the tubes that pass electricals along....
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Thanks :) Good to know it works fine.
Those are the ones I have.
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They work fine with this lens...
(68mm of tubes and an external light source)
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Hi guys, - Just ordered mine from amazon ( Less than $900) - and I googled related info - and Wow I never knew you guys have a discussion about the 100mm 2.8L. I very glad I found you , thanks for all the info and examples here and I hope to visit soon with my test results as well.
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Amazon is having a 12-month no interest sale on this lens, if you open an Amazon card (which I will close as soon as it's paid off :). They have a lot of other things available on the same deal.
It's coming tomorrow -- can't wait.
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I'm sure telling everybody about it will increase your chances of a successful conclusion no end.
Good luck!
:-/
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I skimmed through, and earlier you said that you'd recommend this lens over the 135mm for someone who had neither. (That answers my first question.) But how does the old 100mm compare to this? Obviously, it's half the price so I'd expect it to be slower with an inferior build, but what else?
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The big difference is focus speed and IS particularly if you use the lens outside the macro range.
For serious macro work on a tripod both lenses work equally well.
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Except the 135 isn't a macro and doesn't have between 2-4 stops of IS that features an Image Stabilizer with angle and shift detection.
Apart from that they are both made by Canon and have a red ring on the end - so almost identical in the distance.
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Thanks. I'm thinking of getting the 135mm or either of the 100mm lenses as my next prime lens, but I'll have to save up quite a bit first.
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The Taste of Rain edited this topic 22 months ago.
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Using EF 100mm f/2.8 IS USM MACRO and Kenko extention tubes
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Refulgeō edited this topic 16 months ago.
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This is an excellent portrait lens as well !! :D :D :D
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Wow. Thanks for sharing this, Bernard. It's good to know that Canon's lenses (the L's especially) can be used for more than one purpose, even when it's a dedicated specialty lens. 
Yeah, shooting high school stuff, they always tell me that I can't use the flash, although there have been ref's who will allow it on "low power" as they say. 
Thanks :) Good to know it works fine.
Those are the ones I have.
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