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Tough choice, that I wouldn't want to be confronted with.
I'd say: keep the 300D.
By the time you get tired of it the next gen 5D will have halved in price (if it ever comes out) and it will have all the bells and whistles you have now.
Downside: you'll have more Nikon lenses by then than you'll wish to part with.
Or return the 300D, get the 5D at a very good price now and miss out on the bells and whistles.
I still have my 350D I got in 2006.
I played with it's comparatively very limited options and had to conclude that I don't use 80% of them anymore. That's why I didn't go for the 40D (yes, I was temped, sooo tempted...) and got a 5D.
And I'm very happy with half the possible settings on the turning knob on top!
And, oh yeah, the full frame is the beezneez.
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Have you shot with a 5D? I know a lot of Nikonians dont like Canon's ergonomics for whatever reason. I personally have not used a D300 so I cannot speak for it. The 5D is great and if it is what you're looking for, you'd be hard pressed to find a better camera, but take into consideration the systems you are buying into. If you go Nikon and they come up with a prosumer full frame camera, will you have to reinvest in lenses as I know they are behind the curve with FF compatible options. Where they are ahead in my opinion is that you can use the crop lenses on FF, just only utilizing like 4mp in the center of the sensor, so you can use them but your FF camera is no longer FF. Is there something other than lack of FF on the D300 you feel you're missing? FWIW, I feel like the 5D is the closest digital camera to a film SLR and image quality is in a league of its own even with its "archaic" tag. Good luck with the decision.
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Does anyone have any clue when the 5D will be replaced with a 5DmkII or something similar?
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My trusted shopkeeper told me that they didn't know.
And that if they did, they would have to sign a non-disclosure document.
Or risk being shot, or beheaded, or something really dreadful.
:-)
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you can search the topics in the group. from all the rumor threads I've read, consensus seems to put it, at earliest, in the Fall at Photokina. read that however you'd like.
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Thanks.... decisions shouldn't be this difficult.
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If you have the Nikon lenses, save the money from the Canon lens/body switch and buy a D3. It has the IQ of the 5D (maybe even slightly better) in a pro body.
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I'm a Nikon guy too, the only reasons why I joined this group is because I fancy the 5D and I can learn about Canon too, the more knowledge the better.
I think that the full frame sensor from the 5D for that bargain is great and the less noise from Canon are better than Nikon cameras but I think that the D300 have many more features than the 5D, so choose carefully. I regret buying the D80 instead of the D200 for all the extra features.
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Well now... this conversation has been remarkably civil.
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Sera, we do our best. ...that is until we transfer this convo over to DMU. after that, all bets are off.
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I love my D300 but for the folks who really want a full frame - waiting is better, IMO. Especially since you got the D300 and don't love it (: I absolutely adore mine but I would looove a full frame too... but I rather get the D3.
But you should rent a 5D - that will make your decision easier.
lensrentals.com is good (:
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Oh... I didn't say that I don't love the D300. I DO love my D300. I've never seen a better metering system, which helps me have a much higher number of potential keepers. Of course... with the technical aspects of photography being so easy with the D300... it really exposes the fact that I have to get better with my "eye" for a quality shot.
This is strictly a, "it would be nice to have full frame" thing. I think... especially after this thread (and talking to my wife), I'm going to stick with my D300, make sure I buy Full Frame compatible lenses, and wait for Nikon's pro-sumer full frame offering.
Thanks all for indulging me. BTW.. absolutely fantastic images in this pool. It's no wonder that you like your 5d's.
-Tom
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I do not love D300 but it has sensor clean, Do love 5D but lack sensor clean, anyway I am owning both of them. today I shot with 5D or 1D, tomorrow I will shot Nikon D300 or D2Xs, who care, as long as let my finger do dancing.
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I went ahead and purchased the 5D - After the discounts, rebates and ebaying a pro9000 printer and 24-105L lens, the 5D ended up costing about $1700 for the body. I expect the new 5D to be almost TWICE that amount for body only.
Truth is, the current 5D is a wonderful camera and the 5D MkII won't change that fact.
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Truth is, the current 5D is a wonderful camera and the 5D MkII won't change that fact.
And that's a fact.
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Why would Canon release an update to the 5D right now when there is no competition to it currently. I'd wager that they have the new 5D ready to go, but see no incentive to release it yet. The longer they can milk the profits from the current 5D the better off they will be.
Look at it this way - if they release the 5D right now, Nikon would probably counter with something a little better a few months from now and their marketing effort would be wasted. But if they wait until Nikon releases their "5D killer", Canon will have had time to develop something even better to take the wind out of their sails.
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 yeah... i read this thread because i thought it would be a fun read.... "should i ditch nikon for canon" question to a canon group .... lol. boring and civil (ok, i know that is better, but STILL!). and i don't have an opinion on the topic at hand. my 5D is the only DSLR ive ever held.
edited because i cannot type.
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I went from a D80 to a 5D and it was a real struggle. IQ on the 5D supurb, erganomics awful.
Check out some of my thoughts on the way
This Is where I started to like my 5D
This Nikon D80 shot is when I was still not so sure. This shot details some of the differences between Nikon and Canon in terms of erganomics.
If you ask me now - I am still not sure which is the best way to go - but either way you have a great camera.
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Two very different cameras.
Yo first need to ask yourself, what do you like to shoot?
If it's sports / action, then I think you should keep the D300 with it's 6fps and 51 AF points.
If you need very low noise and better IQ at the expense of the above mentioned features, then the 5D is for you. Especially if you don't use anything but the center AF point (the rest don't cut it when it's dark).
Or go for broke (perhaps literally), don't compromise and get a D3 with it's high ISO glory.
I prefer the layout of the Canon system to the Nikon, but that's probably just because I'm use to it. Ergonomics is a personal preference. So pick one up at the store and see how it feels.
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I would say keep the D300 and hang on for the D3 to reduce in price. Keep your Nikkor glass.
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I'd keep the D300 - it's a fine camera.
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heard good things about d300 but since this is a 5D forum wat the heck go for it
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I just purchased a Nikon D300.
Has the patina of the new camera already worn off?
If you bought the camera to take photographs then you should be fine with your D300. If you bought the camera as a status symbol, then you owe it to yourself to dump it and get the Stradivarius of digital SLR cameras, the Canon EOS 5D (tounge planted somewhat firmly--although not entirely--in my mouth).
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Thomas -
1) How often do you shoot at ISO800 or higher?
2) Do you use primes a lot or you are rather a zoom guy?
3) Are you after using fast wide angle lenses like 35mm f/1.4, 24mm f/1.4, and after shallow DoF at wide angles?
I believe those are the only areas where 5D kills the D300. My friend has got the D300, I have 5D and D3, so I have a pretty good comparison of those cameras..
If you answer "no" to my questions, then I believe D300 will work much better for you.
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CyberGus [deleted] says:
@Thomas Lester
The fact that 5D is a superb and fantastic camera... is that you are comparing it with the D300 who is new camera with in fact, a newer technology.
The Canon 5D was introduced in august 2005. It takes almost 3 years for Nikon to achieve a slightly better camera. And I say a slightly... because you are expecting a drastically better camera since 3 years are a lot of time in technology.
Anyway, if you need a Nikon who actually is better camera than the 5D, you can buy a Nikon D3... Nikon needs a 5000 usd camera to beat a 5D (2159 usd)... and 3 years later, of course.
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If you can't make the D300 work for you, you won't make the 5D work for you either.
You have to be pertty clear why you are coming to the 5D. For me, it was that my old 30D + 10-22 lens did not match the IQ of a 5D and 17-40 lens, and after studying many shots taken with the 5D, I moved to it. If the 10-22 lens had been better, there was less reason to move.
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I tried my friends D300 and you have to hold down a button, then turn a dial to get from P to M: not as usable as a twist of a dial. I wouldn't buy it just for that.
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I am a university photographer and have access to a lot of gear owned by the college. For myself I have a 5D and XSi now as backup. I have shot extensively with the D300 at events this past semester as I wanted to get to know the camera. There is no doubt that the D300 is a sweet piece of kit. If you do sports then the D300 should stay with you as this is about the only thing the 5D is not ideally suited for. For myself I shoot mostly landscapes and the occasional portrait and wedding. Even after three years I think the 5D excels here and it really does come down to that full frame sensor. In short, if you feel that FF calling then now is a good time to buy a 5D as you can get one for a very reasonable price.
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I am thinking I'm going to stick with the D300, but stick with FX compatible lenses. THEN.... when I decide to upgrade (to a D3 or whatever comes out by then), I'll have compatible glass. I think I like the feature set of the D300 more than I want full frame right now. I'm getting too good of shots with the D300, so I'll just wait on Full Frame.
Thanks so much for indulging me and keeping it civilized. You are a good bunch and keep up the good work with your excellent tools!
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~nat~ - all professional cameras, including Canon's 1D and 1Ds series, don't have a dedicated mode-dial - they all require you to press a button and turn a standard dial instead.
This isn't bad, I for one would love to have the "P" and green mode entirely removed from the mode dial on my 5D. I've never used them but I'm afraid I will unintentionally select those modes (for instance, when being drunk ;) and do not notice it before it's too late.
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