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APD Photo (a group admin) says:
20 Dec 11 - Twenty-one photos have been submitted to the pool in the past 3 weeks. Not one of them is accompanied by a discussion thread. How are they supposed to get critiqued and where will they receive their GALLERY votes. So sad. Bye bye, photos.

22 Nov 11 - So many excellent photos are being submitted to the C.A.F.E. pool, but nobody is creating discussion threads to go with their pictures. So sad, pictures denied; bye bye...

PLEASE READ THE GROUP RULES BEFORE SUBMITTING PHOTOS TO THE POOL.

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About C.A.F.E.

Welcome to the CAFE. Here you can submit your photos to solicit debate, comments and constructive criticism... This virtual CAFE is a clean, well-lit place where we Flickr-ites can gather to share honest criticism of each other's works.

C.A.F.E.. Get yours at flagrantdisregard.com/flickr

IMPORTANT: Don't just post photos directly to the pool: The group's pool, or GALLERY, is reserved for photos or threads nominated by at least THREE participants. Instead, create a new discussion thread where your photo can be discussed and critiqued (see below.) You may submit your photo for the pool at the same time, but it will held until it receives the required 3 votes from the associated discussion thread. Photos that are submitted to the pool without an accompanying discussion thread, will be denied without comment.

POSTING FREQUENCY: Please limit yourself to ONE (1) thread per day for photo critiques. Non-critique or off-topic [OT] threads are not limited, but please keep such off-topic threads relevant to the group.



HOW TO POST PHOTOS FOR CRITIQUE:

1. Create a new thread., ONE (1) photo per thread in accordance with the group posting frequency (stated above).

2. The subject line should be the name of your photo only. Keep it simple. The title is used by CAFE members to pick through the pictures they've commented on, and those that are new to them. A simple but descriptive title works better than "Please critique this."

3. To add a photo to the post, go to the photo's main page, click on the "Share" dropdown, and select a MEDIUM size. Paste the HTML code from there, into your post. Adding some technical data about the photo, and perhaps describing what you were trying to achieve, will help stimulate discussion.


Remember: Nobody's obligated to critique your photo so try giving people a reason to do so. Try posting some discussion points and don't just sit back and wait for comments. Instead, actively participate in your thread, ask and answer questions, post new edits, etc. The strength of this community lies in its collaborative nature.

Furthermore, it is encouraged to ...

Enable viewing of 'All Sizes' of your photos: To fully appreciate your picture, critics will often want to see more than the posted medium size picture.

Enable 'Notes': Notes are an easy way for critics to post cropping suggestions or point at certain items of your picture.

Allow for 'Derivative work': Sometimes, critics wish to illustrate their comments by posting their own edits and revisions. This form of visual feedback can be very instructive. However, if you want this sort of input you must either set your license to allow the posting of derivative works or give explicit permission for this in your original post.



HOW TO CRITIQUE:

Serious critiques need to go beyond simply saying it's a great photo.

Technical: Look for things like exposure problems (are the shadows blocked or the highlights blown?), dust spots, colour casts, focus issues, noise in the image, motion blur, lens distortion, tilted horizons etc. Think about how these problems can be fixed in post-processing and, more importantly, how they can be avoided in the future. Good technique can be very important in clearly communicating your ideas.

Aesthetic: This is a lot more difficult to discuss because art is very subjective and every person is different. The important thing is to try to think about your reactions. If you like a photo, ask yourself why? or why not? Think about the composition. Is the arrangement of elements within the frame pleasing? Or do they feel awkardly placed? Look for leading lines, shapes and patterns formed by these elements. Is the photographer trying to convey a mood or story? How successful have they been? Colour (or lack thereof) can have a significant impact on how we appreciate a photo. Is the use of colour successful or do colours clash or provide a distraction?

Pool Nominations If you think the photo meets the best standards, both technical and aesthetic, then you may cast your vote to nominate it to the CAFE pool, by adding the word GALLERY to your post. Once a photo receives THREE (3) Gallery nominations, it will be approved and added to the CAFE pool by the admins.


These few simple rules of thumb are intended solely as a starting point for critical evaluation and are very incomplete. We leave it up to you to fill in the blanks as you see fit.

Remember: The better you're able to think critically about other people's photos, the more you'll be able to apply those insights to your own work.



SOME IMPORTANT GUIDELINES:

Don't use the Flickr Photo Replace Feature: Instead, add revised versions to your photo stream separately and then post the link into the discussion thread. This way, readers can follow the chain of revisions and make better critiques at all levels.

Not all feedback will be Positive and Glowing: This is precisely the point. Critiques will be honest and sometimes blunt. No hurt feelings allowed. Conversely, no "mindless insults" either, please. Only constructive feedback.

No Ad Hominem Attacks CAFE is about critiqueing photographs, not photographers. Keep discussions civil without making personal attacks. Violators of this rule will find themselves added to the banned list -- end of discussion.

Closing your thread: If you are satisfied with the feedback that your photo has received and you wish to formally end the discussion, then please amend your thread title with the [Closed] tag. An admin will then come along to lock the thread. This will prevent older threads from being needlessly bumped to the top after meaningful discussion has run its course. This is a purely voluntary measure and all other threads will remain indefinitely open. It is also permanent. Threads will not be unlocked if the poster has a change of heart so choose wisely.



Finally: although CAFE admins and members are fairly open-minded, we discourage the posting of porn or violent images. Administrators' decisions are final in this regard.

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Thanks and Enjoy!

Additional Information

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  • Members can post 1 thing to the pool each day.
  • Accepted media types:
    • Photos
    • Video
  • Accepted content types:
    • Photos / Videos
    • Screenshots / Screencasts
    • Illustration/Art / Animation/CGI
  • Accepted safety levels:
    • Safe
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