ok tell us if she is spayed?

Oh I am VERY interested in any ideas as well. I have three bunnies now...(two are a bonded pair / Teddy hasn't been bonded to them yet and he is in a separate area) all are spayed/nuteured and they will use the litter boxes to pee, but there is poo EVERYWHERE still.

I think it may still have to do with marking territory but I could be wrong.

I found when the bunnies peed everywhere, (when I was first litter training them) that removing the stain on the carpet (with vinegar) usually helped remove the odour which made it less likely that the bunny would pee again in that spot. I would then add a litter box over the area where the bunny peed. Over time, I was reducing the amount of litter boxes (I started out with 7 litter boxes) available to them and they learned. Also, whenever I saw them using the litter box, they were praised and got to eat a yummy treat.

Obviously the litter training hasn't worked 100% as they still poo everywhere...but poo is much easier to clean than pee....

You also need to be very vigilent when they are out. If you notice that one of your buns isn't peeing in the right spot, you need to pick him/her up and gently place them in the litterbox....follow with lots of praise....If this isn't possible, I will usually say "no" and shoo them towards the litter box...

I'll post again if I can think of anything else that may help.

Oh I wish you the best of luck!! I'm having similar problems with Hunny, only in his cage. Before he was nuetered he never peed outside of his box, ever, and he never pooped outside of his cage on floor time. Now, he pee's all over his cage, and poops every step he takes. I'm patience rewarding and vigilant, but it seems never ending some days!! I wish you the best of luck, and hope you get some good advice!

i had a similar problem with willow. she would always pee right next to her boxes in the same two spots - one outside the house and one inside. i just kept cleaning with white vinegar and varying the ratio of litter to hay and the amount of each until i have found some combination that she likes / the white vinegar has taken effect / she just stopped doing it for no reason / she is possibly about to pee right now and make me look like a liar. for the life of me i cannot figure out if we have struck a good balance or she just changed her habits. but my best advice is lots of white vinegar which is fortunately cheap and different amount of litter/hay. good luck.

Mona is spayed. We've had her for a year now, and she was spayed when she came to us (although we didn't know it, and I had scheduled a 'spay' last june, and surprise! no female repro. organs). I haven't tried the vinegar...i've been using Clorox oxy clean. I'll give that a shot!

My Ryo & Lucky had forgotten their toilet training when I came back from holidays. so I had to constantly cleaning up their mess. What I did was everytime they poo on the floor, I'll grab a duster pan and pick up all their poos and pour it into the litter box. same with their pees, just clean it up with paper towel and throw it back to the box.
soon they learns that their poos and pees belongs in the box not the floor. bunnies are very intelligent little things. =D

detective did mona's probs start with reese coming or was he there first?

No, she's always had issues with the box outside of her cage, but not inside. But since Reese, it seems to have gotten worse. I do pick up the poos and put them in, I clean up any hay on the floor and put it in the box, and i make sure to keep the boxes clean but not too clean (so they can smell it). It's just getting rediculous, and I feel terrible for punishing Reese b/c Mona can't figure out the potty box.

:-S

God, I have the same problem with Alley thinking outside the box. UGH! somedays, she won't do it, and others, it's pee-city all day. GRR...I'm thinking, this might be a contributing factor:

julesschroom: I think the cat got cought red handed/boxed here for the contributing factor. when the cat is in the litter box, the rabbit don't have anywhere else to go for toilet business.

i think this really is a combination of insecurity and territorial behaviour on her part. it's a very tough problem, how to make her feel more secure without having her peeing everywhere... it sounds like Reese is the dominant as he doesn't groom her, and she may be feeling a bit peeved at this. does he ever mount her? or vice versa? does he shove his head under her chin? you could try stroking her (on head in short strokes like he would if he were grooming her) and not him, but in front of him, so he gets the idea. it may be that though they appear to be bonded they are not quite in rapport. it is unusual for a true bonded pair not to practise mutual grooming to this extent. i had it with one of my pairs who did eventually fall out because one never groomed and now they will not tolerate each other.

why 'punish' Reese ? why not try the stroking thing when they are out together, then leave them and see what happens, if she urinates in the wrong place, put her in the pen (but dont tell her off or raise your voice or anything) and leave him out for a while without her. maybe they need some time apart too, then put him back in again later. i would not confine a rabbit who is NOT marking, and she may get the idea gradually and come to copy his behaviour. in turn he may find he misses her and begin to reciprocate with the grooming.

it's not a question of them spending a lot of time apart, just a bit, maybe half an hour.

also i dont know how old they are but it has taken horatio 9 months to follow the others and use the poo tray properly (he would go just outside it every time), but he got there in the end.

i also have one girl on her own (the one who wouldn't groom and lost her friend) who is a nightmare to toilet train so i am very sympathetic and trying to sort this out with you, not saying i know all the answers just trying to find them,, let us know if you try any of these ideas?

Tsuzy- I know, I was just being facetious.

Wow, thanks for all the ideas, Moss! Let's see...Reese is the dominant one, but neither mounts anything. No sex in the bun-room. :) He does ask for grooming, but even if he doesn't, she gives it freely. I do what you're suggesting, with the head-pets for mona. She'll groom me when I'm done (my big sweetheart!). Reese will be 3 this summer (yikes, how did time fly so fast?!), and my vet estimates Mo to be about 4 years old.

I actually tried spraying the vinegar-water around, and for TWO WHOLE DAYS NOW Mona hasn't pee'd outside of the boxes!!! YAY! I'm curious to see how long this will last. :)